My therapy program is finally under way.

dly645 · Post by **dly645** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 4:59 am

I'm on cloud nine, as of Jan 31st I am now on female hormone therapy and my breast are getting tender. At long last I will be more like the woman I am inside .

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:10 pm

If you are happy about it, I am happy for you.

Surely you realize the mixed results you will get from your posts, and not all positive.

koan · Post by **koan** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 9:26 pm

There are many women who don't feel like the woman they are inside. You are lucky.

Tip: in the later years don't pretend you know what it's like to go through menopause...dead giveaway. You'll never get it right.

Bullet · Post by **Bullet** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:05 pm

dly645 wrote: I'm on cloud nine, as of Jan 31st I am now on female hormone therapy and my breast are getting tender. At long last I will be more like the woman I am inside .I need a new key board, I just puked on mine. You are an abomination. Please keep your flaming to yourself.

anastrophe · Post by **anastrophe** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:20 pm

Bullet wrote: I need a new key board, I just puked on mine. You are an abomination. Please keep your flaming to yourself.
you, on the other hand, are an impeccable, perfect specimen of humanity.

Bullet · Post by **Bullet** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:25 pm

anastrophe wrote: you, on the other hand, are an impeccable, perfect specimen of humanity.Thank you.

(I did sense the sarcasm, but will ignore) And may I say that I've always respected you, not just because you use large fancy words that I have to look up, but also for your opinions which are sincerely admirable. (no sarcasm meant)

Bullet · Post by **Bullet** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:29 pm

dly645 wrote: I'm on cloud nine, as of Jan 31st I am now on female hormone therapy and my breast are getting tender. At long last I will be more like the woman I am inside .:yh_sick :yh_sick

anastrophe · Post by **anastrophe** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:37 pm

transgender issues are horrible. there was a documentary not too terribly long ago about a girl who lived her life as a man (no, not the tina brandon story). she had a 'male' mentality, and partly male body. she suffered terribly, and i believe eventually committed suicide. transgender people get next to no sympathy.

none of us are 100% male or 100% female. that's a biological fact. there's a wide spectrum of mixes of gender between the 'extremes' of male/female. 'hermaphrodite' is the common term for a person who has both male and female sexual organs - but again, there are wide ranges of same. there are also people who have perfectly 'normal' gender-appropriate organs, but inside, they know they came out wrong. that's where the transgender folks come in. through modern medicine, they can achieve a closer semblance of what they really feel.

it's worth noting that most cross-dressers are heterosexual males.

not that it makes one iota of difference, but i don't fall into any of the categories discussed. i'm male, not transgender or transsexual, not a crossdresser, not homosexual or bisexual. just a boring, white, middle class, middle aged, guy, who could stand to lose 20 pounds.

thus endeth the lesson. of course, once i lose the twenty pounds, i'll be able to say, with a straight face, thus endeth the lessen.

:yh_loser

anastrophe · Post by **anastrophe** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:40 pm

Bullet wrote: Thank you.

(I did sense the sarcasm, but will ignore) And may I say that I've always respected you, not just because you use large fancy words that I have to look up, but also for your opinions which are sincerely admirable. (no sarcasm meant)
thanks, i guess. perhaps you'll come away from this wondering why i care about gays, transgenders, cross-dressers, whomever.

you know, i have many negro friends. i don't have anything against them. i just don't want them sharing the same drinking fountains us white folks use. makes me sick to think about it. and they definitely should not be allowed to marry our white women. it's an abomination.

Bullet · Post by **Bullet** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:53 pm

anastrophe wrote: thanks, i guess. perhaps you'll come away from this wondering why i care about gays, transgenders, cross-dressers, whomever.

you know, i have many negro friends. i don't have anything against them. i just don't want them sharing the same drinking fountains us white folks use. makes me sick to think about it. and they definitely should not be allowed to marry our white women. it's an abomination.Are you always this sarcastic? Are you the only one allowed to have a valid view? I guess I'll be the bigger man and agree to disagree.

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:02 am

Bullet wrote: Are you always this sarcastic? Are you the only one allowed to have a valid view? I guess I'll be the bigger man and agree to disagree.
When you go on a thread and say you'd kick a man's ass just because they are wearing pantyhose I would think you would expect someone to take offense. Just a thought.

anastrophe · Post by **anastrophe** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:06 am

Bullet wrote: Are you always this sarcastic? Are you the only one allowed to have a valid view? I guess I'll be the bigger man and agree to disagree.
what i wrote wasn't sarcasm. it was an example of what a different kind of bigot has been known to say.

you claim you have gay friends, but yet spewed bigotry about them. you may have gay friends, but they don't have a friend in you.

Bullet · Post by **Bullet** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:09 am

koan wrote: When you go on a thread and say you'd kick a man's ass just because they are wearing pantyhose I would think you would expect someone to take offense. Just a thought.Point taken, your right.

Bullet · Post by **Bullet** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:16 am

anastrophe wrote: what i wrote wasn't sarcasm. it was an example of what a different kind of bigot has been known to say.

you claim you have gay friends, but yet spewed bigotry about them. you may have gay friends, but they don't have a friend in you.Your right. Just because I went to their gay wedding and a gay bar with them, does not mean they are my friends. Let's recind friends for associates. But my associates do not openly flame or place their unnatural lifestyle in my face. They have a right to do what they want, as long as it does not infringe on my rights. And I have a right to not like it when somebody does put it in my face. And you have a right to disagree with me. So what do we do from here?

anastrophe · Post by **anastrophe** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:17 am

Bullet wrote: Your right. Just because I went to their gay wedding and a gay bar with them, does not mean they are my friends. Let's recind friends for associates. But my associates do not openly flame or place their unnatural lifestyle in my face. They have a right to do what they want, as long as it does not infringe on my rights. And I have a right to not like it when somebody does put it in my face. And you have a right to disagree with me. So what do we do from here?as before. you do have a right to not like it. suggesting you'd do physical harm to someone because you don't like how they live their life is wrong, in my opinion - immoral

but you're right - there's nowhere to go from here.

Bullet · Post by **Bullet** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:33 am

anastrophe wrote: as before. you do have a right to not like it. suggesting you'd do physical harm to someone because you don't like how they live their life is wrong, in my opinion - immoral I agree, perhaps the initial shock from the original post made me over react. I would not do physical harm just because of their lifestyle. If they put it in my face, well it may be different.

but you're right - there's nowhere to go from here.Thank you for a good debate. Good night. See ya on the other thread.

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:38 am

Easy wrote: I'm sitting here wondering - why is it that whenever dly645 starts a thread Bullet and anastrophe steal it.
I'm sitting here wondering, will dly645 be back to comment.

Bullet · Post by **Bullet** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:39 am

Easy wrote: I'm sitting here wondering - why is it that whenever dly645 starts a thread Bullet and anastrophe steal it.You can have it back Easy, I'm done with it. I feel like I need a shower anyway.

anastrophe · Post by **anastrophe** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:47 am

Easy wrote: I'm sitting here wondering - why is it that whenever dly645 starts a thread Bullet and anastrophe steal it.i dunno if 'whenever' is really apropos. dly645 has started precisely TWO threads on forumgarden. there are what, nearly 4,000 other threads on FG? not exactly a tidal wave, i'd say.

anastrophe · Post by **anastrophe** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:37 am

Easy wrote: Let me put it this way. You guys are two for two.
okay, well, thanks for sharing the insight.

Bullet · Post by **Bullet** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:21 pm

:yh_bigsmi

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Raven · Post by **Raven** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:05 am

Bullet wrote: :yh_bigsmi
nothing like a little subtlety! :driving:

Bothwell · Post by **Bothwell** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:44 am

DLY- Big choice to make, but if it makes you happy why not.

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:02 pm

Raven wrote: nothing like a little subtlety! :driving:
Dont you mean ignorance

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:04 pm

dly645 wrote: I'm on cloud nine, as of Jan 31st I am now on female hormone therapy and my breast are getting tender. At long last I will be more like the woman I am inside .
Its been a while since you posted this, hope all went well for you hon x