How To Get To Heaven When You Die

Post by **LarsMac** » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:02 pm

xfrodobagginsx;1522329 wrote: 2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

And there you go. This defines the pro-Trump Xtians to a "T"

Take a note, Bob.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:34 pm

LarsMac;1522330 wrote: And there you go. This defines the pro-Trump Xtians to a "T"

Take a note, Bob.

Yes I actually believe the Word of God, the Bible and am glad to.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:18 pm

xfrodobagginsx;1522278 wrote: Question: Do you know the difference between an illegal alien and a legal alien? Because Trump has no problem with legal aliens or immigrants.

Just who are the Illegal Aliens? The Native Americans were there long before the Europeans (latter day Americans) Illegally Immigrated & treated the NATIVE Citizens like animals, and continue to do so to this day.

The Spanish discovered & colonised the Americas first. Ergo, the Mexicans have seniority.

The biggest question is how many WHITE people have been deported as Illegal Immigrants over Black / Asian / Hispanic ones?

Which is the country that has a long established track record of illegally invading other people's countries, then leaving them in utter desolation.

My biggest question is why anyone would WANT to go to America. The wall should be to keep the Americans out of Mexico. America is the LAST place I would want to go to.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:03 pm

FourPart;1522392 wrote: Just who are the Illegal Aliens? The Native Americans were there long before the Europeans (latter day Americans) Illegally Immigrated & treated the NATIVE Citizens like animals, and continue to do so to this day.

The Spanish discovered & colonised the Americas first. Ergo, the Mexicans have seniority.

The biggest question is how many WHITE people have been deported as Illegal Immigrants over Black / Asian / Hispanic ones?

Which is the country that has a long established track record of illegally invading other people's countries, then leaving them in utter desolation.

My biggest question is why anyone would WANT to go to America. The wall should be to keep the Americans out of Mexico. America is the LAST place I would want to go to.

The land no longer belongs to the Native Americans and never will again. There were only a few million American Indians in the entire half of the world. It's like a few people claiming the moon as their own. No one treats Native Americans like animals either. They get all kinds of Government grants and money from the US Government and special rights and privileges via affirmative action. You want to go back 600 years and say that the spanish were here first? So, what you are saying is that you want all of the white people to leave and give the land back to the Natives? It's not gonna happen now and it shouldn't happen at this point. Whatever bad they did is long past in history and people like you need to move on. Just like Europe and the rest of the world had slavery like the US, but people like you only want to focus on the US. The US was among the first Countries to abolish slavery. So why don't I hear you condemning Europe and the rest of the world? The focus is only on tearing down the US.

Now you are attacking WHITE people for being white. The left is fueling racism against whites while claiming that the whites are the oppressors. How many white illegal aliens are there in the US verses how many Latino and other races are there? It's not about color, it's about illegal vs legal. All you seem to see is color like you have been taught by the left who tries to put everyone into little groups to divide and then control them.

The US is the greatest Nation on earth and you must agree which is why you hate them so much. You are jealous of their success and the fact that Capitalism actually works and Socialism fails every time.

The US doesn't invade any peaceful nations. We invade people who are oppressing their people and or oppressing other nations. I think that's a good thing instead of being a selfish jerk and not helping them.

Trust me I will be glad for you never to come to America from your country that does 100x worse. Europe owned slaves and so did Canada. You should be begging for forgiveness and give all of your money to the oppressed. You won't though because you are evil.

Notice you don't see Americans fleeing the US for Mexico or Venezuela, they are all coming here, so the world disagrees with you. God bless America!!

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:44 pm

Northam 'desperate' to hide support for infanticide

https://www.wnd.com/2019/02/northam-des ... hzJsWHa.99

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:42 pm

LarsMac;1522330 wrote: And there you go. This defines the pro-Trump Xtians to a "T"

Take a note, Bob.

No, it actually defines the Liberals and Democrats. They perceive up as down and left as right. Everything that they believe is opposite of what the Bible teaches and opposite of reality. They can't even understand that Capitalism works and Socialism fails even though all Socialist Countries end in chaos and misery and Trump has fixed the US economy now from the failed polices of Obama because of Capitalism. The US economy is the best in history. Look at the numbers and tell me what I am wrong. You can't and then somehow you perceive the US economy as bad.

Post by **LarsMac** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:52 pm

xfrodobagginsx;1522412 wrote: no, it actually defines the liberals and democrats. They perceive up as down and left as right. Everything that they believe is opposite of what the bible teaches and opposite of reality. They can't even understand that capitalism works and socialism fails even though all socialist countries end in chaos and misery and trump has fixed the us economy now from the failed polices of obama because of capitalism. The us economy is the best in history. Look at the numbers and tell me what i am wrong. You can't and then somehow you perceive the us economy as bad.

id 10 t

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:39 pm

LarsMac;1522413 wrote: id 10 t

Tell me about Venezuela. How are they doing since they switched to socialism?

Post by **LarsMac** » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:49 pm

xfrodobagginsx;1522416 wrote: Tell me about Venezuela. How are they doing since they switched to socialism?

If you actually knew anything, you'd know that it wasn't about socialism, but about someone making stupid decisions. Even Capitalists suffer from that malady.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:08 pm

LarsMac;1522417 wrote: If you actually knew anything, you'd know that it wasn't about socialism, but about someone making stupid decisions. Even Capitalists suffer from that malady.

Tell me about Socialist Spain's economy then. The USSR? Maybe the rest of the world should be copying the richest and freest nation on earth the USA's economic and social structure. That's why people are beating down the doors to come to America and not the Socialist failed nations.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:27 pm

LarsMac;1522413 wrote: id 10 t

Why don't you tell me what Valenzuela did wrong. What about all of the other Socialist failed nations. I can tell you but you won't listen.

Post by **LarsMac** » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:05 pm

xfrodobagginsx;1522422 wrote: Tell me about Socialist Spain's economy then. The USSR? Maybe the rest of the world should be copying the richest and freest nation on earth the USA's economic and social structure. That's why people are beating down the doors to come to America and not the Socialist failed nations.

xfrodobagginsx;1522430 wrote: Why don't you tell me what Valenzuela did wrong. What about all of the other Socialist failed nations. I can tell you but you won't listen.

Your last sentence pretty well answers your question.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:52 pm

LarsMac;1522432 wrote: Your last sentence pretty well answers your question.

Here are some facts about Socialist nations:

Sales tax here: 6%

Gas: $2.00 per gallon here

Cars: $20-25,000 for a Ford Escape.

Corporate tax rate:21%

Unemployment rate:3.9%

GDP: $20.66 trillion (Q3 2018)

3.5% GDP growth

Here are the tax rates in the US:

https://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/ ... ckets.aspx

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:59 pm

Xfrod You represent the fallacy of the ]American way of life. Money buys everything. In Canada we are social democrats.. Even the book of Acts presents social democracyAnother American fallacy "every buddy loves us."As far as i'm concerned that idiot you have for a presiden hasn"tasent a clue. From my point of view you can have him and please don't send him nonfth of the border as for most of us he is not welcome. In my view he is a looser.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:37 pm

Ted;1522447 wrote: Xfrod You represent the fallacy of the ]American way of life. Money buys everything. In Canada we are social democrats.. Even the book of Acts presents social democracyAnother American fallacy "every buddy loves us."As far as i'm concerned that idiot you have for a presiden hasn"tasent a clue. From my point of view you can have him and please don't send him nonfth of the border as for most of us he is not welcome. In my view he is a looser.

I never said that money buys everything, however, it's better to be rich than poor, Godly than Godless, happy than sad. Canada is basically an extension of Europe now. How sad. As these nations turn more and more against God, they become more and more Liberal and move further and further down. Guess what? Americans know you Godless Canadians and Europeans hate us and we could care less what you think of us. Only the wimpy, traitor Democrats care what you think because they have also turned against God. Trump is probably in the top 3 best Presidents of all time. He's fixing the huge mess left by every President since Reagan. God bless him. He's fixing the trade imbalance also of Cananda, Europe and the rest of the world sucking the wealth out of America.

You all want Globalism. Us Christians know who will be running the New World Order if you read your Bible you would be fighting hard against Globalism.

Fisher Amen · Post by **Fisher Amen** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:52 pm

Garden Of God:

https://www.wnd.com/2019/02/garden-of-t ... handiwork/

Fisher Amen · Post by **Fisher Amen** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:48 pm

Ted;1522447 wrote: Xfrod You represent the fallacy of the ]American way of life. Money buys everything. In Canada we are social democrats.. Even the book of Acts presents social democracyAnother American fallacy "every buddy loves us."As far as i'm concerned that idiot you have for a presiden hasn"tasent a clue. From my point of view you can have him and please don't send him nonfth of the border as for most of us he is not welcome. In my view he is a looser.

Why do you hate America so much? Are you jealous of them because they are so rich and free? Why not become Capitalist like them and Christian like them instead of being jealous? It's what works obviously. It's what made Europe great. It's what made Australia great. It's what made Canada great. It's what made America great. All of the Socialist nations fail. Why not go back to what works instead of being hateful of America?

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:18 pm

I accept the reality of God. As far as heaven and hell are concerned I'm and agnostic. Some keep talking about God as a being. God is not a being but a spirit

Fisher Amen · Post by **Fisher Amen** » Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:26 pm

Ted;1522491 wrote: I accept the reality of God. As far as heaven and hell are concerned I'm and agnostic. Some keep talking about God as a being. God is not a being but a spirit

God is a Spirit. A Spirit is another form of being. God inhabited a physical body in the form of Jesus Christ. Physical men are also being. There are two known

realms. The physical and the spiritual. You can't say that God is not a being because He is a Spirit. Spirits are beings with a mind, will and emotion, but like I said, God is also physical in the form of Christ.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:27 am

Fisher Amen;1522495 wrote: God is a Spirit. A Spirit is another form of being. God inhabited a physical body in the form of Jesus Christ. Physical men are also being. There are two known

realms. The physical and the spiritual. You can't say that God is not a being because He is a Spirit. Spirits are beings with a mind, will and emotion, but like I said, God is also physical in the form of Christ.

You posted on two subjects in this thread, Socialism, and Being, and you got them both wrong.

What's next?

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:25 pm

Fisher Amen;1522495 wrote: God is a Spirit. A Spirit is another form of being. God inhabited a physical body in the form of Jesus Christ. Physical men are also being. There are two known

realms. The physical and the spiritual. You can't say that God is not a being because He is a Spirit. Spirits are beings with a mind, will and emotion, but like I said, God is also physical in the form of Christ.

You are correct.

Fisher Amen · Post by **Fisher Amen** » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:08 pm

Ahso!;1522500 wrote: You posted on two subjects in this thread, Socialism, and Being, and you got them both wrong.

What's next?

I think Frodo got them right. Explain why YOU think he got them wrong.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:59 am

Fisher Amen;1522507 wrote: I think Frodo got them right. Explain why YOU think he got them wrong.It's probably been done 100 time by now. Search engines provide us great opportunity to educate ourselves for those of us who honestly choose to.

Fuzzy · Post by **Fuzzy** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:38 pm

Fisher Amen · Post by **Fisher Amen** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:59 pm

Fuzzy;1522514 wrote:

First of all, God doesn't murder. The flood wasn't murder or genocide, it was judgement for man's murder and genocide and continual violence and evil upon the earth. To say that God should have created man with a predisposition to good rather than evil is a straw man. God DID create man good. But God gave man a free will and man chose evil. In Egypt, again God is punishing wickedness and rebellion against Him in egypt. They were murdering, enslaving and committing all manner of sin and witchcraft in egypt. They also refused to allow God's people to go.

I notice that 9 out of 10 of the false accusations against the God of the Bible aren't even backed up in the video. It's just asserted with no evidence presented at all.

Fuzzy · Post by **Fuzzy** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:57 pm

Fisher Amen · Post by **Fisher Amen** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:39 pm

Fuzzy;1522526 wrote:

I will only continue to watch your inaccurate videos if you will watch mine. Deal? You must respond to the assertions to show that you actually watched it.

Fuzzy · Post by **Fuzzy** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:13 pm

Videos posted by me are free to watch or to be ignored by anyone.

I'm not fussed whether you watch them or not.

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:56 pm

Xfrod you are entitled to your thoughts but I simply disagree.l== The Bible God is a spirit.. the word comes from Hebrew which is ruah and is translated as wind. Wind is not a being also translated as " breath" To try to make a being out of that is ridiculous.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:05 pm

Ted;1522538 wrote: Xfrod you are entitled to your thoughts but I simply disagree.l== The Bible God is a spirit.. the word comes from Hebrew which is ruah and is translated as wind. Wind is not a being also translated as " breath" To try to make a being out of that is ridiculous.

To disbelieve what the Bible actually says about the Holy Spirit is ridiculous.

I didn't know that the wind could make people wise, give skills and understanding:

Exodus 31:3 and I have filled him with the Spirit of God, with wisdom, with understanding, with knowledge and with all kinds of skillsâ€”

I have heard that the spirit of the gods is in you and that you have insight, intelligence and outstanding wisdom.

Does the wind give visions:

Ezekiel 11:24 The Spirit lifted me up and brought me to the exiles in Babylonia in the vision given by the Spirit of God.

Does the wind raise the Dead?

And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you.

I could go on by my point is made. You are blind and need the Lord to open your eyes.

Fuzzy · Post by **Fuzzy** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:08 am

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:27 am

SCIENTISTS: MOSES WROTE FIRST 5 BOOKS OF THE BIBLE:

https://www.wnd.com/2019/03/scientists- ... -of-bible/

Post by **LarsMac** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:46 am

xfrodobagginsx;1522551 wrote: SCIENTISTS: MOSES WROTE FIRST 5 BOOKS OF THE BIBLE:

https://www.wnd.com/2019/03/scientists- ... -of-bible/

"WND Exclusive"

I think THAT says it all.

Fuzzy · Post by **Fuzzy** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:12 am

Fisher Amen · Post by **Fisher Amen** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:54 pm

LarsMac;1522552 wrote: "WND Exclusive"

I think THAT says it all.

The point is that Scientists have studied and concluded what we already knew. I think the fact that you don't understand that says it all.

Fuzzy · Post by **Fuzzy** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:09 pm

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:07 pm

I would agree that God does not murder quite simply because something that doesn't exist can't do anything. However, there are millions of those who do murder in the name of something that doesn't exist.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:29 pm

FourPart;1522564 wrote: I would agree that God does not murder quite simply because something that doesn't exist can't do anything. However, there are millions of those who do murder in the name of something that doesn't exist.

Let me ask you something which is hard to believe, that God created everything that exists out of nothing, OR that the Universe created it's self out of nothing?

Post by **LarsMac** » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:29 pm

xfrodobagginsx;1522568 wrote: Let me ask you something which is hard to believe, that God created everything that exists out of nothing, OR that the Universe created it's self out of nothing?
Neither of those.

It was never nothing.

Fuzzy · Post by **Fuzzy** » Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:05 am

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:17 pm

LarsMac;1522569 wrote: Neither of those.

It was never nothing.

So then you place your faith in the hope that the matter always existed on it's own. So then you don't believe in Science because Science says it's impossible for it to exist.

Let me ask you a question, IF it were proven that Evangelical Christianity was true, would you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior?

Post by **LarsMac** » Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:07 am

xfrodobagginsx;1522571 wrote: So then you place your faith in the hope that the matter always existed on it's own. So then you don't believe in Science because Science says it's impossible for it to exist.

matter and energy have always been. I don't know what passes for "Science" in your world, Bob.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:06 pm

xfrodobagginsx;1522571 wrote: So then you place your faith in the hope that the matter always existed on it's own. So then you don't believe in Science because Science says it's impossible for it to exist.

Let me ask you a question, IF it were proven that Evangelical Christianity was true, would you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior?

The First Law of the Conservation of Energy: Energy can neither be created nor destroyed, only transformed from one form into another. Matter is made of Energy. In the beginning was the word. And the word was "Energy".

Fuzzy · Post by **Fuzzy** » Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:45 pm

FourPart;1522575 wrote:

In the beginning was the word. And the word was "Energy".

Wrong. The word was 'Legs'. let's spread the word.

And seriously, if energy can't be created, then your stupid god is useless.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:17 pm

Fuzzy;1522576 wrote: Wrong. The word was 'Legs'. let's spread the word.

And seriously, if energy can't be created, then your stupid god is useless.

Not my God. I'm saying the energy was always there.

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:02 pm

Something to do with gravity and magnetic fields ?

Fuzzy · Post by **Fuzzy** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:01 pm

FourPart;1522587 wrote: Not my God. I'm saying the energy was always there.

That would mean the universe has always been and I would agree with you there.

Which means there really was no need to invent a god.

ps. Of course I have no way of demonstrating an eternal universe. But if religionists claim that god has always existed, then why not the universe?

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:03 pm

LarsMac;1522573 wrote: matter and energy have always been. I don't know what passes for "Science" in your world, Bob.

What you believe is not science, it's a faith based belief because the laws of thermodynamics and conservation of energy state that matter and energy cannot be created nor destroyed, therefore, it is impossible for them to exist. You place your faith in matter and energy that they are self existent rather than a self existent God creating them from nothing.

xfrodobagginsx · Post by **xfrodobagginsx** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:07 pm

Fuzzy;1522576 wrote: Wrong. The word was 'Legs'. let's spread the word.

And seriously, if energy can't be created, then your stupid god is useless.

Matter and Energy cannot be created by natural means. But God is supernatural and created it as the Bible says. He can create matter and energy from nothing as well as space and time.

Genesis 1:1 In the Beginning (Time) God Created the heaven (Space) and the earth (Matter).

Post by **LarsMac** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:16 pm

xfrodobagginsx;1522608 wrote: What you believe is not science, it's a faith based belief because the laws of thermodynamics and conservation of energy state that matter and energy cannot be created nor destroyed, therefore, it is impossible for them to exist. You place your faith in matter and energy that they are self existent rather than a self existent God creating them from nothing.

Once in a while you make me laugh, Bob.