Population control

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:06 am

I have been watching a program about India, they are soon to catch up with China's population and they are accelerating.

Is China correct in their strict population controls, should other countries adopt such

measures ?

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:04 am

What exactly are the controls in place for China? I'll go see what I can find and then criticize them:wah:

Post by **LarsMac** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:09 am

flopstock;1408379 wrote: What exactly are the controls in place for China? I'll go see what I can find and then criticize them:wah:

Each family is allowed one child.

In some ways it seems to be working, but it also seems like they have produced a nation of "Only Child" types.

Not sure that is a good thing.

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:16 am

So it is like a 1 for 2 stock split.

Is their population dropping that significantly?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:09 am

LarsMac;1408383 wrote: Each family is allowed one child.

In some ways it seems to be working, but it also seems like they have produced a nation of "Only Child" types.

Not sure that is a good thing. It's also brought It's own problems.

Couples In China don't want baby girls and many are aborted or abandoned at birth. Women are forced Into abortions.

Gruesome photos put spotlight on China's one-child policy - Behind The Wall

Scrat · Post by **Scrat** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:18 am

I recently read that there was like 10 million more births than deaths in China last year. I also read that the one child policy applied only to about 36% of the population. Mainly city/urban folk.

I wonder if womens birth control is free there, I would hope so. Sad situation but it seems they're between a rock and a hard place.

Believe it or not there is a lot of talk in Russia about all of the Chinese people emigrating to Siberia and Russias far east. Russia doesn't protest as long as the rules are followed but then they couldn't stop it either. Chinese peasants just go out into the wilderness and build a log house get their paperwork and start living. Whole towns are popping up in places. 20 years down the road it might become a problem, you don't necessarily have to use guns to conquer a country. Just move into it en mass like the Latin people are doing to the US.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:03 pm

Interesting statistics

I have a sneaking admiration for the stringent population controls in China.

To my mind they are looking after their future generations without considering spreading their territory to accommodate the growth.

Keeping your own house in order sort of idea.

I imagine it will take a generation or two for the culture change to become accepted and the wisdom to sink in, it is obviously the right thing to do long term.

The actual enforcement is frighteningly barbaric, but when weighing the alternatives, what are the alternatives ?

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:54 pm

While I accept the arguments for the control of world population, there are very good practical reasons why people in the 3rd world have very large families. People in rural areas of Africa for example, survive on subsistence farming, with little or no access to welfare. The elderly therefore, have a heavy reliance on family to help them provide for them. Large extended families work the land to feed the older less able family members, those unable to work the land themselves. A large family is often a productive one.

It's very easy for us to dictate to people around the world, while we have a welfare system that allows us a reasonable retirement. Thankfully our grandparents do not rely on working the land to grow maize and can pop to the shops when they choose.

Wandrin · Post by **Wandrin** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:46 pm

All of the anthropology textbooks say that as a nation develops a mature healthcare system, clean drinking water, etc., the birth rate will decline. It is no longer necessary to have many children to ensure that a few will survive. It takes a few generations for this to take effect, which is why immigrants from less developed countries tend to have far more children than those who have lived in more developed countries for generations.

As for government policies to restrict birth rates, I have yet to see a system that doesn't have some rather nasty side effects.

dipty587 · Post by **dipty587** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:35 am

It's very easy for us to dictate to people around the world, while we have a welfare system that allows us a reasonable retirement. Thankfully our grandparents do not rely on working the land to grow maize and can pop to the shops when they choose.

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:49 am

dipty587;1408487 wrote: It's very easy for us to dictate to people around the world, while we have a welfare system that allows us a reasonable retirement. Thankfully our grandparents do not rely on working the land to grow maize and can pop to the shops when they choose.

Why are you just repeating what I posted ?

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:24 pm

Snowfire;1408489 wrote: Why are you just repeating what I posted ?

:yh_rotfl :yh_rotfl

When I first read her post I thought I was experiencing deja vu!

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:37 am

wow I learnt all this in high school (many moons ago) this is not new . being made to have abortions against your will in china is not new either ...get with the programme people .

along-for-the-ride · Post by **along-for-the-ride** » Sat Oct 20, 2012 6:28 am

What exactly is only child syndrome? | Only Child Experience and Research

"Little emperor syndrome" ?

along-for-the-ride · Post by **along-for-the-ride** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:56 pm

And this in the news from China.......

Outrage after video shows China teacher abusing kindergarteners - Behind The Wall

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 3:55 pm

along-for-the-ride;1409017 wrote: And this in the news from China.......

Outrage after video shows China teacher abusing kindergarteners - Behind The Wall

I think it's horrible that these kids are being put through this. I always want to reach out and do similar damage to the abusers when I see stories about stuff like this.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:17 am

It's very easy for us to dictate to people around the world, while we have a welfare system that allows us a reasonable retirement. Thankfully our grandparents do not rely on working the land to grow maize and can pop to the shops when they choose.

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:38 am

I'm gonna come over there and slap the back of your legs

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:18 am

Snowfire;1409052 wrote: I'm gonna come over there and slap the back of your legs :yh_rotfl

Yes please big boy.