This Act Does Not Reflect All Islam
This Act Does Not Reflect All Islam
gmc;1327999 wrote:
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No he didn't, like the christian it has been rewritten time after time to suit those who would be rulers. It's a collection of stories about a primitive tribe and their conflicts with those around them and the things they saw that they could only explain as being the work of the god's.
There are many christians who think like you do - the only difference being they will kill and destroy in the name of jesus christ rather than allah. If you wait long enough one will come along shortly and tell you why islam has it all wrong.
The only thing that unites them is a desire to fight the godless moslems just as many moslems want to fight the godless christians. Kill them all and let god sort it out. do moslems believe in this daft end of days scenario as well?
let me clarify things here by giving an example:
suppose you are creative and you just made kind of technology that no one before you has found it or knew it.. OK who's the only one that knows how It works and how It's made?? It's only you !!
similarly, we are taking law and rules from the one who created us and knows everything about us.. he is the only God..
It does not make sense that someone just create rules from his head.. the prove for that, in every state you have different law.. on the other hand, almost all Islamic countries have the same law from Qura'an which comes from Allah..
who do you think is good for people and society?
well, I believe in things that make sense, I believe that the one who created us is the one who can give us perfect rules..
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No he didn't, like the christian it has been rewritten time after time to suit those who would be rulers. It's a collection of stories about a primitive tribe and their conflicts with those around them and the things they saw that they could only explain as being the work of the god's.
There are many christians who think like you do - the only difference being they will kill and destroy in the name of jesus christ rather than allah. If you wait long enough one will come along shortly and tell you why islam has it all wrong.
The only thing that unites them is a desire to fight the godless moslems just as many moslems want to fight the godless christians. Kill them all and let god sort it out. do moslems believe in this daft end of days scenario as well?
let me clarify things here by giving an example:
suppose you are creative and you just made kind of technology that no one before you has found it or knew it.. OK who's the only one that knows how It works and how It's made?? It's only you !!
similarly, we are taking law and rules from the one who created us and knows everything about us.. he is the only God..
It does not make sense that someone just create rules from his head.. the prove for that, in every state you have different law.. on the other hand, almost all Islamic countries have the same law from Qura'an which comes from Allah..
who do you think is good for people and society?
well, I believe in things that make sense, I believe that the one who created us is the one who can give us perfect rules..
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What, exactly, is the proof that a god exists, let alone that we were created by such a being?
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OpenMind;1328003 wrote: What, exactly, is the proof that a god exists, let alone that we were created by such a being?
oh, That's Interesting question and here I am answering it for you:
I'll answer you question by using sense and giving an example:
suppose we have a cool car, and you asked me: who manufactured it??
we only have two possible answers:
1)the first answer: this car has been created by a group of people and machines in a factory..
2) the second answer: no one has created this car, It just pop up from steel, Carbon and iron and then creates itself by itself..
since we collected some answers, let's analyze them by using basic sense and using our brains..
which answer is suitable for people to choose and think it's right??
I'm sure guaranteed that you'll choose answer 1).. you know why? because you have mind and it's open mind as well..
similarly, It does not make sense that we ((human being)) do not have someone who created us.. well, that is God
oh, That's Interesting question and here I am answering it for you:
I'll answer you question by using sense and giving an example:
suppose we have a cool car, and you asked me: who manufactured it??
we only have two possible answers:
1)the first answer: this car has been created by a group of people and machines in a factory..
2) the second answer: no one has created this car, It just pop up from steel, Carbon and iron and then creates itself by itself..
since we collected some answers, let's analyze them by using basic sense and using our brains..
which answer is suitable for people to choose and think it's right??
I'm sure guaranteed that you'll choose answer 1).. you know why? because you have mind and it's open mind as well..
similarly, It does not make sense that we ((human being)) do not have someone who created us.. well, that is God
I miss you Odie
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M.A.S;1328004 wrote: oh, That's Interesting question and here I am answering it for you:
I'll answer you question by using sense and giving an example:
suppose we have a cool car, and you asked me: who manufactured it??
we only have two possible answers:
1)the first answer: this car has been created by a group of people and machines in a factory..
2) the second answer: no one has created this car, It just pop up from steel, Carbon and iron and then creates itself by itself..
since we collected some answers, let's analyze them by using basic sense and using our brains..
which answer is suitable for people to choose and think it's right??
I'm sure guaranteed that you'll choose answer 1).. you know why? because you have mind and it's open mind as well..
similarly, It does not make sense that we ((human being)) do not have someone who created us.. well, that is God
The first option would have verifiable proof. This is not the case with any religious tenet that I have come across.
I will ask another question. You do not need to answer this, I present it purely for contemplation. Which concept do you find easier to perceive between infinity and absolutely nothing at all?
I'll answer you question by using sense and giving an example:
suppose we have a cool car, and you asked me: who manufactured it??
we only have two possible answers:
1)the first answer: this car has been created by a group of people and machines in a factory..
2) the second answer: no one has created this car, It just pop up from steel, Carbon and iron and then creates itself by itself..
since we collected some answers, let's analyze them by using basic sense and using our brains..
which answer is suitable for people to choose and think it's right??
I'm sure guaranteed that you'll choose answer 1).. you know why? because you have mind and it's open mind as well..
similarly, It does not make sense that we ((human being)) do not have someone who created us.. well, that is God
The first option would have verifiable proof. This is not the case with any religious tenet that I have come across.
I will ask another question. You do not need to answer this, I present it purely for contemplation. Which concept do you find easier to perceive between infinity and absolutely nothing at all?
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OpenMind;1328003 wrote: What, exactly, is the proof that a god exists, let alone that we were created by such a being?
For myself, I find it harder to perceive absolutely nothing at all and find it easier that there has always been some form of existence.
For myself, I find it harder to perceive absolutely nothing at all and find it easier that there has always been some form of existence.
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M.A.S;1328004 wrote: 2) the second answer: no one has created this car, It just pop up from steel, Carbon and iron and then creates itself by itself..I didn't realize there were Muslims who rejected the principles of evolution.
There's an essential difference between inanimate manufacturing processes and those of complex carbon-based chemistry. I have no problem at all with the notion that living systems evolved from self-selecting environments.
There's an essential difference between inanimate manufacturing processes and those of complex carbon-based chemistry. I have no problem at all with the notion that living systems evolved from self-selecting environments.
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When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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M.A.S;1327910 wrote: well, your country is dealing with liberal laws and that's where mistakes come from..
the liberal law is based on people thoughts and what they think.. but our law is bases on what God said...
here, I need you to answer my question an honest answer..
who do you think is better, God's law or people law..??!
I'm sure guaranteed that the God who made us is understanding people more than I or you think.. so God's laws is not leading us to stone ages..
when we allow beliefs and Interpretation of religious teachings to rule our laws, then we will be in a good society because we applied what God said.
laws that come from God is in Qura'an and the Prophet has dictated it.. God has chosen the Prophet so no mistakes will happen..
And this is where I have the problem with religion, any religion. Be it the bible, Quran or anything that is declared ‘the word of God’.
It is not the word of God, it is a book written by a man that people believe represents the word of God.
Once you believe it is in fact Gods word, it allows people to justify their actions no matter how insane they are.
It is OK to stone someone to death, God says so¦. In his book
It is OK to kill that non believer, God says so¦ in his book.
Religion is an institution created by man to control man because most men are sheep that will only follow, even if it is off a cliff.
It is no mistake that God is likened to a Sheppard and his followers a flock of sheep.
Sheep don’t think and will follow each other straight into a slaughter house.
the liberal law is based on people thoughts and what they think.. but our law is bases on what God said...
here, I need you to answer my question an honest answer..
who do you think is better, God's law or people law..??!
I'm sure guaranteed that the God who made us is understanding people more than I or you think.. so God's laws is not leading us to stone ages..
when we allow beliefs and Interpretation of religious teachings to rule our laws, then we will be in a good society because we applied what God said.
laws that come from God is in Qura'an and the Prophet has dictated it.. God has chosen the Prophet so no mistakes will happen..
And this is where I have the problem with religion, any religion. Be it the bible, Quran or anything that is declared ‘the word of God’.
It is not the word of God, it is a book written by a man that people believe represents the word of God.
Once you believe it is in fact Gods word, it allows people to justify their actions no matter how insane they are.
It is OK to stone someone to death, God says so¦. In his book
It is OK to kill that non believer, God says so¦ in his book.
Religion is an institution created by man to control man because most men are sheep that will only follow, even if it is off a cliff.
It is no mistake that God is likened to a Sheppard and his followers a flock of sheep.
Sheep don’t think and will follow each other straight into a slaughter house.
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Oldschoolguy;1327783 wrote: Well, you said they are trying, but have they succeded? Also, when many people think of Muslims/Islam, they only think of the middle east. What about all the black Muslims of the US and the rest of the world? I never hear of anyone complaining of them setting up mosques and trying to "defeat from within". Mainly because they aren't trying to. I agree that we all need to be concerned with radical Muslims, but I am just as afraid or cautious of, any radicals no matter what their religion, if they are trying push their views on me.
I agree, all religions and radicals of any kind you need to beware of.
I don't here the 'other Muslims of the US and the world' speaking out against the Muslims of the Middle east, silence is compliance.
And yes, this applies to raddical Christians and all the other religions who belive that their God is right and therefore justifies their actions.
Too many wars fought in the name of too many Gods.
Imagine there's no heaven
It isn’t hard to do
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today..
I agree, all religions and radicals of any kind you need to beware of.
I don't here the 'other Muslims of the US and the world' speaking out against the Muslims of the Middle east, silence is compliance.
And yes, this applies to raddical Christians and all the other religions who belive that their God is right and therefore justifies their actions.
Too many wars fought in the name of too many Gods.
Imagine there's no heaven
It isn’t hard to do
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today..
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oh, That's Interesting question and here I am answering it for you:
I'll answer you question by using sense and giving an example:
suppose we have a cool car, and you asked me: who manufactured it??
we only have two possible answers:
1)the first answer: this car has been created by a group of people and machines in a factory..
2) the second answer: no one has created this car, It just pop up from steel, Carbon and iron and then creates itself by itself..
since we collected some answers, let's analyze them by using basic sense and using our brains..
which answer is suitable for people to choose and think it's right??
I'm sure guaranteed that you'll choose answer 1).. you know why? because you have mind and it's open mind as well..
similarly, It does not make sense that we ((human being)) do not have someone who created us.. well, that is God
All very well, but humans are not cars any more than women are lumps of glittery rock (jewels). There is considerable scientific evidence that we evolved and were not created and there is no need for a God to explain how it happened.
You argue that your Laws are from God and therefore cannot be changed. My point of view is that bad law should be changed, that stoning for adultery is bad law, and it should be changed. Kill them if you must, but stoning? Hitting people with rocks until they die? How long does it take?
And it's not as if the threat of this horrible death stops people committing adultery. It's not about prevention, it's about killing them slowly and messily afterwards.
And who does the killing anyway? Could you really bring yourself to throw rocks at a living, crying woman? Smash her face in before she dies? The thought appals.
I'll answer you question by using sense and giving an example:
suppose we have a cool car, and you asked me: who manufactured it??
we only have two possible answers:
1)the first answer: this car has been created by a group of people and machines in a factory..
2) the second answer: no one has created this car, It just pop up from steel, Carbon and iron and then creates itself by itself..
since we collected some answers, let's analyze them by using basic sense and using our brains..
which answer is suitable for people to choose and think it's right??
I'm sure guaranteed that you'll choose answer 1).. you know why? because you have mind and it's open mind as well..
similarly, It does not make sense that we ((human being)) do not have someone who created us.. well, that is God
All very well, but humans are not cars any more than women are lumps of glittery rock (jewels). There is considerable scientific evidence that we evolved and were not created and there is no need for a God to explain how it happened.
You argue that your Laws are from God and therefore cannot be changed. My point of view is that bad law should be changed, that stoning for adultery is bad law, and it should be changed. Kill them if you must, but stoning? Hitting people with rocks until they die? How long does it take?
And it's not as if the threat of this horrible death stops people committing adultery. It's not about prevention, it's about killing them slowly and messily afterwards.
And who does the killing anyway? Could you really bring yourself to throw rocks at a living, crying woman? Smash her face in before she dies? The thought appals.
The crowd: "Yes! We are all individuals!"
Lone voice: "I'm not."
Lone voice: "I'm not."
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posted by mas
similarly, It does not make sense that we ((human being)) do not have someone who created us.. well, that is God
Actually it doesn't make any sense to believe that we do have someone who created us. If we do then who made god? To believe that he made himself or always has been in existence is nonsense. If you do believe there is a god it makes even less sense to believe that the words written down by a bronze age tribe wandering around the middle east are his words and they were his chosen people. You need to read more than one book.
similarly, It does not make sense that we ((human being)) do not have someone who created us.. well, that is God
Actually it doesn't make any sense to believe that we do have someone who created us. If we do then who made god? To believe that he made himself or always has been in existence is nonsense. If you do believe there is a god it makes even less sense to believe that the words written down by a bronze age tribe wandering around the middle east are his words and they were his chosen people. You need to read more than one book.
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spot;1328009 wrote: I didn't realize there were Muslims who rejected the principles of evolution.
There's an essential difference between inanimate manufacturing processes and those of complex carbon-based chemistry. I have no problem at all with the notion that living systems evolved from self-selecting environments.
yes, I do not believe in the principle of evolution..
I gave that example so I just explain the principle of nature and It does not make sense that there is no creator which created us..
OK, Instead of that cool car, let's Imagine that you saw little girl or boy in a forest, then you asked him or her, where did you come from??
suppose she/he answered you by saying, I came from nothing or maybe I came from a tree!!
are you really going to believe that ??!!
I don't think this make sense..
mikeinie;1328010 wrote: And this is where I have the problem with religion, any religion. Be it the bible, Quran or anything that is declared ‘the word of God’.
It is not the word of God, it is a book written by a man that people believe represents the word of God.
Once you believe it is in fact Gods word, it allows people to justify their actions no matter how insane they are.
It is OK to stone someone to death, God says so¦. In his book
It is OK to kill that non believer, God says so¦ in his book.
Religion is an institution created by man to control man because most men are sheep that will only follow, even if it is off a cliff.
It is no mistake that God is likened to a Sheppard and his followers a flock of sheep.
Sheep don’t think and will follow each other straight into a slaughter house.
speaking of sheep, they really have delicious meat with rice, yummy..
OK, let's get back to discussion:
First of all, the holly book "Qura'an" is not written by a man.. God sent an angel to tell the prophet what he needs to write down..so It's not from any human being mind..
secondly, the law here does not walk in the streets and just kill any women or man who walks or something.. the law here is applied when an action happen that is not allowed.. as we all know, for every action, there is a reaction..
also, I believe that Islam is the right religion from God, because it's the last religion that come with a holly book, and your books "Bibles", it has mentioned that there is a prophet Mohammad..
following the words of God Is not making people sheep, so are you saying that following human being words is making people sheep also??!!
Clodhopper;1328013 wrote: All very well, but humans are not cars any more than women are lumps of glittery rock (jewels). There is considerable scientific evidence that we evolved and were not created and there is no need for a God to explain how it happened.
You argue that your Laws are from God and therefore cannot be changed. My point of view is that bad law should be changed, that stoning for adultery is bad law, and it should be changed. Kill them if you must, but stoning? Hitting people with rocks until they die? How long does it take?
And it's not as if the threat of this horrible death stops people committing adultery. It's not about prevention, it's about killing them horribly afterwards.
And who does the killing anyway? Could you really bring yourself to throw rocks at a living, crying woman? Smash her face in before she dies? The thought appals.
I would like to see these evidence that you have there !
gmc;1328015 wrote: posted by mas
Actually it doesn't make any sense to believe that we do have someone who created us. If we do then who made god? To believe that he made himself or always has been in existence is nonsense. If you do believe there is a god it makes even less sense to believe that the words written down by a bronze age tribe wandering around the middle east are his words and they were his chosen people. You need to read more than one book.
I did not say that Muslims are chosen people from God and they're the best, I did not say that all non-Muslims will go to hell or to heaven because God is the only one who knows where are we going to be when we die..
ummm, I'm not sure I'm that good with Philosophy, but I believe from my heart that there is a God..
There's an essential difference between inanimate manufacturing processes and those of complex carbon-based chemistry. I have no problem at all with the notion that living systems evolved from self-selecting environments.
yes, I do not believe in the principle of evolution..
I gave that example so I just explain the principle of nature and It does not make sense that there is no creator which created us..
OK, Instead of that cool car, let's Imagine that you saw little girl or boy in a forest, then you asked him or her, where did you come from??
suppose she/he answered you by saying, I came from nothing or maybe I came from a tree!!
are you really going to believe that ??!!
I don't think this make sense..
mikeinie;1328010 wrote: And this is where I have the problem with religion, any religion. Be it the bible, Quran or anything that is declared ‘the word of God’.
It is not the word of God, it is a book written by a man that people believe represents the word of God.
Once you believe it is in fact Gods word, it allows people to justify their actions no matter how insane they are.
It is OK to stone someone to death, God says so¦. In his book
It is OK to kill that non believer, God says so¦ in his book.
Religion is an institution created by man to control man because most men are sheep that will only follow, even if it is off a cliff.
It is no mistake that God is likened to a Sheppard and his followers a flock of sheep.
Sheep don’t think and will follow each other straight into a slaughter house.
speaking of sheep, they really have delicious meat with rice, yummy..
OK, let's get back to discussion:
First of all, the holly book "Qura'an" is not written by a man.. God sent an angel to tell the prophet what he needs to write down..so It's not from any human being mind..
secondly, the law here does not walk in the streets and just kill any women or man who walks or something.. the law here is applied when an action happen that is not allowed.. as we all know, for every action, there is a reaction..
also, I believe that Islam is the right religion from God, because it's the last religion that come with a holly book, and your books "Bibles", it has mentioned that there is a prophet Mohammad..
following the words of God Is not making people sheep, so are you saying that following human being words is making people sheep also??!!
Clodhopper;1328013 wrote: All very well, but humans are not cars any more than women are lumps of glittery rock (jewels). There is considerable scientific evidence that we evolved and were not created and there is no need for a God to explain how it happened.
You argue that your Laws are from God and therefore cannot be changed. My point of view is that bad law should be changed, that stoning for adultery is bad law, and it should be changed. Kill them if you must, but stoning? Hitting people with rocks until they die? How long does it take?
And it's not as if the threat of this horrible death stops people committing adultery. It's not about prevention, it's about killing them horribly afterwards.
And who does the killing anyway? Could you really bring yourself to throw rocks at a living, crying woman? Smash her face in before she dies? The thought appals.
I would like to see these evidence that you have there !
gmc;1328015 wrote: posted by mas
Actually it doesn't make any sense to believe that we do have someone who created us. If we do then who made god? To believe that he made himself or always has been in existence is nonsense. If you do believe there is a god it makes even less sense to believe that the words written down by a bronze age tribe wandering around the middle east are his words and they were his chosen people. You need to read more than one book.
I did not say that Muslims are chosen people from God and they're the best, I did not say that all non-Muslims will go to hell or to heaven because God is the only one who knows where are we going to be when we die..
ummm, I'm not sure I'm that good with Philosophy, but I believe from my heart that there is a God..
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chuckle. That's a lot of posts in ten minutes! Congratulations, MAS, you've certainly got the internet humming!:wah:
Please don't take these posts personally. That we disagree with some of your beliefs does not mean we think you are a bad person.
Please don't take these posts personally. That we disagree with some of your beliefs does not mean we think you are a bad person.
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Lone voice: "I'm not."
Lone voice: "I'm not."
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ummm, I'm not sure I'm that good with Philosophy, but I believe from my heart that there is a God..
Than that is all that matters. But everyone will love to pick your brain, it is good for us, like clodhopper said.
Just leave enough gray matter to start out the school year well.......you will probably get a philosophy course somewhere along the line, in your first two years.
Than that is all that matters. But everyone will love to pick your brain, it is good for us, like clodhopper said.
Just leave enough gray matter to start out the school year well.......you will probably get a philosophy course somewhere along the line, in your first two years.
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I would like to see these evidence that you have there !
There is an awful lot. Here's an overview of human evolution as currently understood, based on the evidence of the fossil record:
Hominid Species
And here's a starting point for the science that leads to these conclusions. I should perhaps emphasise that no-one is claiming this is yet completely proven. More is being discovered all the time and the picture is getting clearer. It's a very exciting time in this area of research.
:
Early Hominin Evolution: Analysis of Early Hominids
There is an awful lot. Here's an overview of human evolution as currently understood, based on the evidence of the fossil record:
Hominid Species
And here's a starting point for the science that leads to these conclusions. I should perhaps emphasise that no-one is claiming this is yet completely proven. More is being discovered all the time and the picture is getting clearer. It's a very exciting time in this area of research.

Early Hominin Evolution: Analysis of Early Hominids
The crowd: "Yes! We are all individuals!"
Lone voice: "I'm not."
Lone voice: "I'm not."
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Clodhopper;1328030 wrote: chuckle. That's a lot of posts in ten minutes! Congratulations, MAS, you've certainly got the internet humming!:wah:
Please don't take these posts personally. That we disagree with some of your beliefs does not mean we think you are a bad person.
I did not want to be famous or post a lot of replies in ten minutes but we're in a discussion where we need to know both sides thoughts with respect..
and I'm not taking it personally.:guitarist
chonsigirl;1328031 wrote: Than that is all that matters. But everyone will love to pick your brain, it is good for us, like clodhopper said.
Just leave enough gray matter to start out the school year well.......you will probably get a philosophy course somewhere along the line, in your first two years.
Thank you but I'm not really Interested In Philosophy stuff..:-6
Please don't take these posts personally. That we disagree with some of your beliefs does not mean we think you are a bad person.
I did not want to be famous or post a lot of replies in ten minutes but we're in a discussion where we need to know both sides thoughts with respect..
and I'm not taking it personally.:guitarist
chonsigirl;1328031 wrote: Than that is all that matters. But everyone will love to pick your brain, it is good for us, like clodhopper said.
Just leave enough gray matter to start out the school year well.......you will probably get a philosophy course somewhere along the line, in your first two years.
Thank you but I'm not really Interested In Philosophy stuff..:-6
I miss you Odie
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Clodhopper;1328032 wrote: There is an awful lot. Here's an overview of human evolution as currently understood, based on the evidence of the fossil record:
Hominid Species
And here's a starting point for the science that leads to these conclusions. I should perhaps emphasise that no-one is claiming this is yet completely proven. More is being discovered all the time and the picture is getting clearer. It's a very exciting time in this area of research.
:
Early Hominin Evolution: Analysis of Early Hominids
I have proofs that we are human being from the beginning but from the holly Qura'an..
do you really want me to quote them??
also, you just said that It's not completely proofed by scientist, and we can tell until they have the final results..
Hominid Species
And here's a starting point for the science that leads to these conclusions. I should perhaps emphasise that no-one is claiming this is yet completely proven. More is being discovered all the time and the picture is getting clearer. It's a very exciting time in this area of research.

Early Hominin Evolution: Analysis of Early Hominids
I have proofs that we are human being from the beginning but from the holly Qura'an..
do you really want me to quote them??
also, you just said that It's not completely proofed by scientist, and we can tell until they have the final results..
I miss you Odie
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I do not think you have the general outline of college classes like we do in the west, with a series of undergrad courses in various other fields than your major. I looked on the web site, but had a hard time pulling up a catalogue, saw the summer school list.
Iin the west, you usually have a series of classes as a freshman and sophmore that contain: 2 English, 2 history/poli sci, 2 science, 2 general ed. of choice, maybe a PE course or two. It is the basis of having a well rounded set of classes, before concentrating in your major field. That is why I thought you might have an option for philosophy, it would be from your viewpoint, but would be an interesting class to take.
Iin the west, you usually have a series of classes as a freshman and sophmore that contain: 2 English, 2 history/poli sci, 2 science, 2 general ed. of choice, maybe a PE course or two. It is the basis of having a well rounded set of classes, before concentrating in your major field. That is why I thought you might have an option for philosophy, it would be from your viewpoint, but would be an interesting class to take.
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posted by M.A.S.
Thank you but I'm not really Interested In Philosophy stuff..
Judging from your posts you seem to be interested in religious philosophy surely you are also interested in the philosophy of religion? I don't see how you can be interested in one without the other.
A scientific theory is an explanation for something based on the evidence available. The evidence for evolution is pretty conclusive as is the evidence that the earth was made over millions of years rather than created in an instant. It is scientific theory that makes planes fly, your not believing in science doesn't mean the plane you are in will fall out the sky because the science is real. If a plane falls out the sky no one assumes it is an act of god yet if one person happens to survive some seem to believe that is a miracle and an act of god.
The theory of evolution isn't a principle it is an explanation of where we have come from bases on scientific study. You are not required to believe it without being able to check it out for yourself. Religious faith requires that you just believe it. Yopu go to war with others of the same faith that don;t worship in exactly the way you do. Your not believing in evolution doesn't make it any less real. Your believing in god doesn't make him real. Non believers don't have to prove god doesn't exist - you can't prove something isn't there when it isn't - you need to prove god exists and your religion is relevant in this day and age. You can't and are incapable of accepting that you can't and letting the matter drop. Religion is an anachronism we could well do without. Stories to frighten children and scare people in to submitting to the will of god as interpreted by the godly.
Posted by M.A.S
I have proofs that we are human being from the beginning but from the holly Qura'an..
do you really want me to quote them??
not much point without hard evidence to back it up. If you don't believe it to be the word of god your stories are just that - stories and myths.
The irony is that archaeology and modern science go a long way to confirming that some of the stories in the bible that were considered mythological do have a likely reasonable explanation and are descriptions of natural events we would now not consider to be an act of god. As such as a story of a primitive tribe and it's experiences it is fascinating. History was not confined to just the middle east there were things happening all round the world, nor is it the only written history.
Maybe save you the bother
Thank you but I'm not really Interested In Philosophy stuff..
Judging from your posts you seem to be interested in religious philosophy surely you are also interested in the philosophy of religion? I don't see how you can be interested in one without the other.
A scientific theory is an explanation for something based on the evidence available. The evidence for evolution is pretty conclusive as is the evidence that the earth was made over millions of years rather than created in an instant. It is scientific theory that makes planes fly, your not believing in science doesn't mean the plane you are in will fall out the sky because the science is real. If a plane falls out the sky no one assumes it is an act of god yet if one person happens to survive some seem to believe that is a miracle and an act of god.
The theory of evolution isn't a principle it is an explanation of where we have come from bases on scientific study. You are not required to believe it without being able to check it out for yourself. Religious faith requires that you just believe it. Yopu go to war with others of the same faith that don;t worship in exactly the way you do. Your not believing in evolution doesn't make it any less real. Your believing in god doesn't make him real. Non believers don't have to prove god doesn't exist - you can't prove something isn't there when it isn't - you need to prove god exists and your religion is relevant in this day and age. You can't and are incapable of accepting that you can't and letting the matter drop. Religion is an anachronism we could well do without. Stories to frighten children and scare people in to submitting to the will of god as interpreted by the godly.
Posted by M.A.S
I have proofs that we are human being from the beginning but from the holly Qura'an..
do you really want me to quote them??
not much point without hard evidence to back it up. If you don't believe it to be the word of god your stories are just that - stories and myths.
The irony is that archaeology and modern science go a long way to confirming that some of the stories in the bible that were considered mythological do have a likely reasonable explanation and are descriptions of natural events we would now not consider to be an act of god. As such as a story of a primitive tribe and it's experiences it is fascinating. History was not confined to just the middle east there were things happening all round the world, nor is it the only written history.
Maybe save you the bother
This Act Does Not Reflect All Islam
speaking of sheep, they really have delicious meat with rice, yummy.. Yes, particulary with mint sauce
OK, let's get back to discussion:
First of all, the holly book "Qura'an" is not written by a man.. God sent an angel to tell the prophet what he needs to write down..so It's not from any human being mind.. But you say this like it is fact? it is not, it is your belief, that is all. And you believe it because it was taught to you by those who believe the same thing. It is not based on fact, it is a religious belief. The same way Jesus is suppose to have come back from the dead, it is in a book, and those who have been taught this, believe it
secondly, the law here does not walk in the streets and just kill any women or man who walks or something.. the law here is applied when an action happen that is not allowed.. as we all know, for every action, there is a reaction.. Laws change and evolves a with society, and law is open to interpretation, and those who enforce the law are not always just. Humanity has a history of being cruel, and often uses religion as their excuse to justify their cruelty
also, I believe that Islam is the right religion from God, because it's the last religion that come with a holly book, and your books "Bibles", it has mentioned that there is a prophet Mohammad..
The right religion, the wrong religion, how many people have died and have killed in the name of this.
I think that if there is a God, he/she watches in disbelief with what we have done to the earth and each other, I say he/she is up there laughing at us all
following the words of God Is not making people sheep, so are you saying that following human being words is making people sheep also??!!
Following anything blindly, whether it be God, a leader, a government, anything, blindly and without question, and without pushing to make things better, makes a person a sheep. Baaaa.
OK, let's get back to discussion:
First of all, the holly book "Qura'an" is not written by a man.. God sent an angel to tell the prophet what he needs to write down..so It's not from any human being mind.. But you say this like it is fact? it is not, it is your belief, that is all. And you believe it because it was taught to you by those who believe the same thing. It is not based on fact, it is a religious belief. The same way Jesus is suppose to have come back from the dead, it is in a book, and those who have been taught this, believe it
secondly, the law here does not walk in the streets and just kill any women or man who walks or something.. the law here is applied when an action happen that is not allowed.. as we all know, for every action, there is a reaction.. Laws change and evolves a with society, and law is open to interpretation, and those who enforce the law are not always just. Humanity has a history of being cruel, and often uses religion as their excuse to justify their cruelty
also, I believe that Islam is the right religion from God, because it's the last religion that come with a holly book, and your books "Bibles", it has mentioned that there is a prophet Mohammad..
The right religion, the wrong religion, how many people have died and have killed in the name of this.
I think that if there is a God, he/she watches in disbelief with what we have done to the earth and each other, I say he/she is up there laughing at us all
following the words of God Is not making people sheep, so are you saying that following human being words is making people sheep also??!!
Following anything blindly, whether it be God, a leader, a government, anything, blindly and without question, and without pushing to make things better, makes a person a sheep. Baaaa.
This Act Does Not Reflect All Islam
M.A.S. Is it true that Muslim children are taught that the Quran is a more reliable source of information than scientific knowledge, especially scientific knowledge that conflicts with the Quran?