Any input on this-

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:24 am

Since I'm looking more and more like the Michelin tire man, I decided to try this no meat, no dairy diet. It sounds almost too good to be true. But, WTF?

No Meat, No Dairy: A new approach to weight-loss.

Jazzy · Post by **Jazzy** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:37 am

Seems likes it's a go for a beer and potato chip diet :wah: Only teasing with you Hoppy. Before you start any diet, you should check with your doctor. This diet does not sound healthy to me. Also with any weight loss regiment exercise is also very important. That old saying comes to mind: if it sounds too good to be true it probably isn't.

beowulf · Post by **beowulf** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:34 am

i couldnt cut out meat..............just couldnt.......:-3

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:48 am

White meat, like chicken and turkey, is better than red meat, less fattening.

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:57 am

The rub is, I can't exercise. Back, hips and knees are wore out from hard physical work most of my working life. I guess I'm grasping at straws.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:05 am

Eat less...........?

As long as the straws are lo cal it might work

Bevdee · Post by **Bevdee** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:06 am

Could you walk once a day? That burns off quite a few calories, and you could take it at your own pace. Maybe you could ask your doctor to recommend physical therapy or a trainer that would work with your limitations, and come up with a workout regimen. Yoga might help, too.

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:34 am

Bevdee;1296634 wrote: Could you walk once a day? That burns off quite a few calories, and you could take it at your own pace. Maybe you could ask your doctor to recommend physical therapy or a trainer that would work with your limitations, and come up with a workout regimen. Yoga might help, too.

Hoppy has said that his back, knees and hips are worn out, so he cannot excercise, I imagine that he would not be able to do yoga either, given that his knees are bad.

Hoppy you've set quite a puzzle here! Looks like it's a minimum carbohydrate and fat diet for you, and possibly excercising with arm excercises only. I know how you feel about back and hip deterioration, and I sympathise Hoppy, but at least I can excercise a bit.

Jazzy · Post by **Jazzy** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:35 am

hoppy;1296631 wrote: The rub is, I can't exercise. Back, hips and knees are wore out from hard physical work most of my working life. I guess I'm grasping at straws.

Hoppy, everyone can exercise in one form or another. Have you talked to your doctor about this?

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:37 am

I keep telling doc I can't stand very long or walk very far but he ignores me. A walker might be an answer though. Maybe one with a stick attached with a can of beer tied to the end of the stick. I would chase that can all day.:yh_rotfl

Seriously though, I am thinking walker. Might as well look like an old fart even more.:wah:

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:58 am

hoppy;1296631 wrote: The rub is, I can't exercise. Back, hips and knees are wore out from hard physical work most of my working life. I guess I'm grasping at straws.

just try lowering your intake of meals, cutting back on portions is a huge reward.

If you find your still hungry, have some fruit, low-fat snacks.

beowulf · Post by **beowulf** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:47 pm

hoppy;1296662 wrote: I keep telling doc I can't stand very long or walk very far but he ignores me.

id start by getting a different doctor since hes not listening to what you are saying

have you thought about swimming.......the water might help support you and its good for cardio

im asthmatic and have a dodgy back (had spinal surgery a few years back) and i found swimming helped as long as i could go at the pace i wanted to.....and not that of the ex-wife who swam like a fish! :rolleyes:

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:58 pm

How far can you walk? Maybe just around the block? Make a very small goal for yourself, and gradually increase-like on a weekly basis.

Cut your caloric and carbohydrate consumption for weight loss.

If your doctor doesn't listen to you, do you have the option for choosing another one?

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:25 pm

hoppy;1296662 wrote: I keep telling doc I can't stand very long or walk very far but he ignores me. A walker might be an answer though. Maybe one with a stick attached with a can of beer tied to the end of the stick. I would chase that can all day.:yh_rotfl

Seriously though, I am thinking walker. Might as well look like an old fart even more.:wah:

If that helps you Hoppy, to achieve your goal, then what the hell does it matter what you look like or what people think - arseholes to them!

Yep, change your doc, or at least get a second opinion.

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:32 pm

There are walkers that have a seat incorporated in the framework, so you could sit down for a while, if your back starts to ache too much. I have a friend who has motor neurone and he has a walker with a seat, and it also has a shopping tray, so he can carry bags as well. He is so chuffed with it, as it helps him to get about a lot more than he used to.

Jazzy · Post by **Jazzy** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:52 pm

hoppy;1296662 wrote: A walker might be an answer though. Maybe one with a stick attached with a can of beer tied to the end of the stick. I would chase that can all day.:yh_rotfl

I found the perfect walker for you hoppy! All we have to do is attach a stick :wah:

Attached files

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:21 pm

Jazzy;1296683 wrote: I found the perfect walker for you hoppy! All we have to do is attach a stick :wah:

Oh, WOW. I even like the gal in the pic.:-4

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:51 pm

Hoppy

My suggestion would be Water Exercise

I'm very limited to mobility also. The bouyancy from the water is wonderful and at times I'm pain free - will actually make you feel better and move those joints without pressure.

Replace alot of your daily intake of foods (Carbs) with a fruit or vegetable.

Reduce your meat intake to a couple of times a week

Stop eating Fried Foods & coated foods, foods that are breaded/covered with any flour recipe, and with water exercise you'll see a difference in time..!!

Good Luck

Now I need to follow my own advise..:wah:

Patsy

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:57 pm

I thank you all for your suggestions. I'm gonna start tomorrow by eliminating beer:-1 and some changes in my diet. I did as much walking today as I could. Will do more tomorrow.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:59 am

Don't knock yourself up Hoppy you irascible old duffer, take it easy.

Translation for the Americans....

Don't over do it, it will make you feel worse, you moody old character you.

along-for-the-ride · Post by **along-for-the-ride** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:15 pm

Bruv;1296718 wrote: Don't knock yourself up Hoppy you irascible old duffer, take it easy.

Translation for the Americans....

Don't over do it, it will make you feel worse, you moody old character you.

:wah: Very good, Bruv.

A lot of good suggestions here, Hoppy.

A doctor who doesn't listen to you is a doctor to replace. IMO

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:51 pm

Any Input on this?

erm no.

Bevdee · Post by **Bevdee** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 2:41 pm

hoppy;1296706 wrote: I thank you all for your suggestions. I'm gonna start tomorrow by eliminating beer:-1 and some changes in my diet. I did as much walking today as I could. Will do more tomorrow.

Good for you!! I know how hard it is for me to get motivated.. I have an old back injury, a recent hamstring injury. My knees are starting to feel the consequences of working on my feet on concrete floors for 30 years. It's too easy to try to protect those aches and pains. I like the idea of water therapy - I like to swim and always feel so revitalised, just from paddling around, soaking up some sun.

Rock on, Hoppy!

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:54 pm

hoppy;1296706 wrote: I thank you all for your suggestions. I'm gonna start tomorrow by eliminating beer:-1 and some changes in my diet. I did as much walking today as I could. Will do more tomorrow.

so how did you do today Hoppy?

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:23 pm

Odie;1296849 wrote: so how did you do today Hoppy?

Pretty good, thank you. No meat, no dairy, no white flour, no beer and I walked a block.

minks · Post by **minks** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:42 am

Good Luck on this Hoppy,

A friend of mine is going through similar, she reduced her portions, and added in more fruit and vegies and grains. And is loosing weight slowly.

If I could offer a bit of personal advise, don't cut out your red meat completely, trim it well and reduce portions. It is still your best source of iron.

Also drink loads of water, this does a number of things, fills you up, hydrates you and offers up some easy exercise as you are forced to get up and go to the bathroom way more times during the day and night :yh_rotfl

Amythest · Post by **Amythest** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:23 am

Hi Hoppy.

I suggest swimming too. No impact. Perhaps you can join a Local pool and do water exercises if you aren't a good swimmer.

Also cycling. U need Low or No impact. Do you have a bike? If not why not buy one? A comphy Beach bike, padded seat, with a carage for a nap sack ( you can do some shopping). U don't have to get a racer, ten speed or mountain bike.

Also if you want to spend the bucks or join a Gym, an eliptical trainer is no impact.

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:25 am

hoppy;1296854 wrote: Pretty good, thank you. No meat, no dairy, no white flour, no beer and I walked a block.

congrats Hoppy, you really did extremely well!:guitarist

I wish we could walk together as I need to lose some weight as well.

keep up the great work!:D

minks · Post by **minks** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:07 pm

Amythest;1296984 wrote: Hi Hoppy.

I suggest swimming too. No impact. Perhaps you can join a Local pool and do water exercises if you aren't a good swimmer.

Also cycling. U need Low or No impact. Do you have a bike? If not why not buy one? A comphy Beach bike, padded seat, with a carage for a nap sack ( you can do some shopping). U don't have to get a racer, ten speed or mountain bike.

Also if you want to spend the bucks or join a Gym, an eliptical trainer is no impact.

or he could put a poodle in the basket on the bike, that is just sooooo darn cute... :yh_rotfl

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:46 pm

minks;1297000 wrote: or he could put a poodle in the basket on the bike, that is just sooooo darn cute... :yh_rotfl

Yes, I bought a three wheeler but my knees won't allow me to peddal it. I thought about adding a small gas or electric motor. But so far, it's parked in my daughter's garage beside grandson's race car. She rode it a few times.

Carolyn · Post by **Carolyn** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:01 pm

I agree with all of the advice you have received.

I'm a semi-vegan. I don't eat dairy at all, but I allow myself four meals per week that include meat. I also take iron and calcium supplements. And butter, not margarine because your body needs some fat everyday.

Water exercise is a good idea. If you can walk one block, keep doing that adding a little more distance every week.

Take the long way around: When you move from room to room in your house, walk to a wall and go in and out of every room following the walls to get to the room you wanted to go to in the first place. It's a simple way to add more steps to your day.

Got to a store like K-Mart, Wallmart, or Meijer's and take a basket and walk around the store. The basket gives you something to hold on to and you could get a good 30 minute walk in by walking up each aisle.

Change doctors. If you have one that does not listen to you, he is not acting in your best interests.