I thought I would start a thread that invites anyone who has a desire, to simply talk with me about whatever you wish. I have been constantly accused, ( and I think falsely), of not wanting to discuss things with others. I don't understand that; I come here sometimes everyday and I talk, and I am not stopping others from talking; so what's the problem??
I admit to not tolerating name calling and insults, but that is not wrong?
I admit to being impatient with rudeness, that is not wrong either.
Anyhow, in this thread I welcome any conversation on any topic, or if you just want to talk; I am here.
I am not a monster; I will not hurt you; I will talk to anyone; I grow tired of these baseless accusations of me not wanting to discuss things, that is not true. I may not discuss those things in a manner that you will like; but that is what it is. I will not insult you or call you names.
speak your mind.
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Most of us don't bite, well not too hard. Most of us display acceptable behaviour, most of the time. Good humour, good manners and an acceptance that their will always be divisions when considering certain subjects, are, I think, a prerequisite for reasonable discussion, though some will push the boundaries and some will get a little offended at times.
Just like real life, in fact.
In my opinion you are too defensive when challenged and display little humour. I'm not sure you thought this place would give you so much of a challenge. Maybe.
There are 2 or 3 here, given a head of steam, are as tough as you will find anywhere.
It's taken nearly 6 years to get you out into the open.
Just like real life, in fact.
In my opinion you are too defensive when challenged and display little humour. I'm not sure you thought this place would give you so much of a challenge. Maybe.
There are 2 or 3 here, given a head of steam, are as tough as you will find anywhere.
It's taken nearly 6 years to get you out into the open.
"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire."
Winston Churchill
Winston Churchill
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Why did you post this in the religion forum, there's a perfectly good general forum where this thread should be.
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Snowfire;1445593 wrote: Most of us don't bite, well not too hard. Most of us display acceptable behaviour, most of the time. Good humour, good manners and an acceptance that their will always be divisions when considering certain subjects, are, I think, a prerequisite for reasonable discussion, though some will push the boundaries and some will get a little offended at times.
Just like real life, in fact.
In my opinion you are too defensive when challenged and display little humour. I'm not sure you thought this place would give you so much of a challenge. Maybe.
There are 2 or 3 here, given a head of steam, are as tough as you will find anywhere.
It's taken nearly 6 years to get you out into the open.
What is it you want to talk about?
Just like real life, in fact.
In my opinion you are too defensive when challenged and display little humour. I'm not sure you thought this place would give you so much of a challenge. Maybe.
There are 2 or 3 here, given a head of steam, are as tough as you will find anywhere.
It's taken nearly 6 years to get you out into the open.
What is it you want to talk about?
Welcome to conversation.
Snooz;1445596 wrote: Why did you post this in the religion forum, there's a perfectly good general forum where this thread should be.
No particular reason; if you want it moved; then move it. What do you want to talk about?
No particular reason; if you want it moved; then move it. What do you want to talk about?
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Here Is one for you Mikiel.... The depictions by ancient civilisations of ' gods' all over the world were actually ancient aliens that visited earth.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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oscar;1445600 wrote: Here Is one for you Mikiel.... The depictions by ancient civilisations of ' gods' all over the world were actually ancient aliens that visited earth.
Well I think that is partly true; God is alien to this world, so I think they got part of it right. They knew this " God" was not human, they some how knew he was up in space somewhere, which I think is correct, so he had to be an alien; so I agree partly with it.
Well I think that is partly true; God is alien to this world, so I think they got part of it right. They knew this " God" was not human, they some how knew he was up in space somewhere, which I think is correct, so he had to be an alien; so I agree partly with it.
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Mickiel;1445602 wrote: Well I think that is partly true; God is alien to this world, so I think they got part of it right. They knew this " God" was not human, they some how knew he was up in space somewhere, which I think is correct, so he had to be an alien; so I agree partly with it.
It's something my husband and I are very Interested In... we are not Ufologists claiming to have been abducted by the Greys etc but more Interested In the similarities of depictions of ' gods' by the ancients around the world and the possibility these ' gods' helped with technology.
It's something my husband and I are very Interested In... we are not Ufologists claiming to have been abducted by the Greys etc but more Interested In the similarities of depictions of ' gods' by the ancients around the world and the possibility these ' gods' helped with technology.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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The suggestion has been made that the ancients saw aliens and that those aliens were the " gods" men have come to believe in. I agree with that in part; I believe in God, one God, none of the mythical gods; just that one unknown God. I do consider him to be an alien, I agree with that. I agree that he once visited the earth, I agree with that. I agree he is not human in any manner. And I fully understand any ancient human calling this God an alien, I understand that; he is an alien.
And I think much of human history that depicts God as an alien, has been correct; however I totally disagree with any attempt to place God in any visual picture of an alien; no such thing exist; there are no pictures of God.
Can there be aliens " Other than God"; well yes, in my view. I think God has created all kinds of beings and angels, and I think men have seen some of these; and its just no telling how they could look.
And all we can call these " Things", is aliens.
Could they have helped with human technology? I think certainly yes, for sure. The pyramids, science, all these were influenced by these outside forces and man kind was helped; for sure, we did not do it alone; but I think it was God who masterminded it all.
And I think much of human history that depicts God as an alien, has been correct; however I totally disagree with any attempt to place God in any visual picture of an alien; no such thing exist; there are no pictures of God.
Can there be aliens " Other than God"; well yes, in my view. I think God has created all kinds of beings and angels, and I think men have seen some of these; and its just no telling how they could look.
And all we can call these " Things", is aliens.
Could they have helped with human technology? I think certainly yes, for sure. The pyramids, science, all these were influenced by these outside forces and man kind was helped; for sure, we did not do it alone; but I think it was God who masterminded it all.
Welcome to conversation.
Snowfire;1445593 wrote: Most of us don't bite, well not too hard. Most of us display acceptable behaviour, most of the time. Good humour, good manners and an acceptance that their will always be divisions when considering certain subjects, are, I think, a prerequisite for reasonable discussion, though some will push the boundaries and some will get a little offended at times.
Just like real life, in fact.
In my opinion you are too defensive when challenged and display little humour. I'm not sure you thought this place would give you so much of a challenge. Maybe.
There are 2 or 3 here, given a head of steam, are as tough as you will find anywhere.
It's taken nearly 6 years to get you out into the open.
I can be defensive, yes; and I display little humor; so for the second time, what is it you want to talk about?
Just like real life, in fact.
In my opinion you are too defensive when challenged and display little humour. I'm not sure you thought this place would give you so much of a challenge. Maybe.
There are 2 or 3 here, given a head of steam, are as tough as you will find anywhere.
It's taken nearly 6 years to get you out into the open.
I can be defensive, yes; and I display little humor; so for the second time, what is it you want to talk about?
Welcome to conversation.
Jesus is portrayed within the bible as, what might be described nowadays as a revolutionary, showing liberal, socialist tendencies. He is quoted as saying something along the lines as "it would be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven". This is so completely contrasted by the religious right fundamentalists of the republican Party and its followers. Would the Jesus be upturning the tables in anger at the antics of these people ?
"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire."
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Snowfire;1445608 wrote: Jesus is portrayed within the bible as, what might be described nowadays as a revolutionary, showing liberal, socialist tendencies. He is quoted as saying something along the lines as "it would be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven". This is so completely contrasted by the religious right fundamentalists of the republican Party and its followers. Would the Jesus be upturning the tables in anger at the antics of these people ?
Yes, I certainly think so. And not only them, but all Christians who participate in prosperity ministries; the money making and enrichment promising churches. Jesus did not say that rich people will not be in heaven after they die, he was teaching that money has absolutely nothing to do with his Fathers coming Kingdom. There will be no " Money" in Gods kingdom; absolutely none! Yet all of us will be rich!
We will be given true riches.
God is not a political being, so he does not and would not support any political party; but he will use them as he wishes. He just does not teach the " Rich mindset" that humans have adopted. We think of things in monetary terms; because money is so important in our reality, but it does not even exist in Gods reality.
But we have to do what we must to live. So religious people have been caught up in the grip of the ever changing view of religious men on money. These leaders, both religious and political, have infused a type of greed into people who already knew about need. So when greed is mixed with need, then with religion and politics, the result of that is what we see today. A big mess.
Yes, I certainly think so. And not only them, but all Christians who participate in prosperity ministries; the money making and enrichment promising churches. Jesus did not say that rich people will not be in heaven after they die, he was teaching that money has absolutely nothing to do with his Fathers coming Kingdom. There will be no " Money" in Gods kingdom; absolutely none! Yet all of us will be rich!
We will be given true riches.
God is not a political being, so he does not and would not support any political party; but he will use them as he wishes. He just does not teach the " Rich mindset" that humans have adopted. We think of things in monetary terms; because money is so important in our reality, but it does not even exist in Gods reality.
But we have to do what we must to live. So religious people have been caught up in the grip of the ever changing view of religious men on money. These leaders, both religious and political, have infused a type of greed into people who already knew about need. So when greed is mixed with need, then with religion and politics, the result of that is what we see today. A big mess.
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Mickiel;1445591 wrote: I thought I would start a thread that invites anyone who has a desire, to simply talk with me about whatever you wish. I have been constantly accused, ( and I think falsely), of not wanting to discuss things with others. I don't understand that; I come here sometimes everyday and I talk, and I am not stopping others from talking; so what's the problem??
Hi Michiel,
I've not talked to you before, or posted in the threads you have started in the past. Simply because they do not interest me. I'm not trying to be rude, but I have read some of your threads and a lot of the time the subject is religion. As this is not a subject I'm interested in I don't reply to your threads. (I do not believe in any god just to make myself clear
)
I could have misinterpreted but in some of your threads you seem to be talking AT people not WITH people. Or maybe defensive as Snowfire said.
I don't think there is anything wrong in posting what you want to post, religion or otherwise. But maybe lighten up, just a little. A little humour never killed anybody
Again, this is not an attack, you wondered and this is my opinion.
Hi Michiel,
I've not talked to you before, or posted in the threads you have started in the past. Simply because they do not interest me. I'm not trying to be rude, but I have read some of your threads and a lot of the time the subject is religion. As this is not a subject I'm interested in I don't reply to your threads. (I do not believe in any god just to make myself clear
)I could have misinterpreted but in some of your threads you seem to be talking AT people not WITH people. Or maybe defensive as Snowfire said.
I don't think there is anything wrong in posting what you want to post, religion or otherwise. But maybe lighten up, just a little. A little humour never killed anybody
Again, this is not an attack, you wondered and this is my opinion.
Welcome to conversation.
Chloe_88;1445611 wrote: Hi Michiel,
I've not talked to you before, or posted in the threads you have started in the past. Simply because they do not interest me. I'm not trying to be rude, but I have read some of your threads and a lot of the time the subject is religion. As this is not a subject I'm interested in I don't reply to your threads. (I do not believe in any god just to make myself clear )
I could have misinterpreted but in some of your threads you seem to be talking AT people not WITH people. Or maybe defensive as Snowfire said.
I don't think there is anything wrong in posting what you want to post, religion or otherwise. But maybe lighten up, just a little. A little humour never killed anybody
Again, this is not an attack, you wondered and this is my opinion.
Well I hear you; I don't sense that you want to talk, I think you just wanted to have your say.
Well I hear you.
I've not talked to you before, or posted in the threads you have started in the past. Simply because they do not interest me. I'm not trying to be rude, but I have read some of your threads and a lot of the time the subject is religion. As this is not a subject I'm interested in I don't reply to your threads. (I do not believe in any god just to make myself clear
)I could have misinterpreted but in some of your threads you seem to be talking AT people not WITH people. Or maybe defensive as Snowfire said.
I don't think there is anything wrong in posting what you want to post, religion or otherwise. But maybe lighten up, just a little. A little humour never killed anybody
Again, this is not an attack, you wondered and this is my opinion.
Well I hear you; I don't sense that you want to talk, I think you just wanted to have your say.
Well I hear you.
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Mickiel;1445612 wrote: Well I hear you; I don't sense that you want to talk, I think you just wanted to have your say.
You are quite right on the "i wanted to have my say".
There was one thing I forgot to ask, because I was interrupted by the phone ringing.
Apart from religion, do you have any other hobbies / interests?
You are quite right on the "i wanted to have my say".
There was one thing I forgot to ask, because I was interrupted by the phone ringing.
Apart from religion, do you have any other hobbies / interests?
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Chloe_88;1445614 wrote: You are quite right on the "i wanted to have my say".
There was one thing I forgot to ask, because I was interrupted by the phone ringing.
Apart from religion, do you have any other hobbies / interests?
I am not interested in religion, nor is it a hobby. But that aside, my hobby is writing; and I write about a lot of things, ( mostly spiritual things). I have written on romance, currently I have two topics at spiritualforums.com, The Neanderthal Thinking man and the Frog Syndrome, in the relationship and soulmate sections.
There was one thing I forgot to ask, because I was interrupted by the phone ringing.
Apart from religion, do you have any other hobbies / interests?
I am not interested in religion, nor is it a hobby. But that aside, my hobby is writing; and I write about a lot of things, ( mostly spiritual things). I have written on romance, currently I have two topics at spiritualforums.com, The Neanderthal Thinking man and the Frog Syndrome, in the relationship and soulmate sections.
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Okay, cool. Writing.
So two topics on another forum. Is it mostly "forum writing" you do or have you/would you write a book about these sort of topics?
So two topics on another forum. Is it mostly "forum writing" you do or have you/would you write a book about these sort of topics?
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Chloe_88;1445616 wrote: Okay, cool. Writing.
So two topics on another forum. Is it mostly "forum writing" you do or have you/would you write a book about these sort of topics?
No book, just a hobby.
So two topics on another forum. Is it mostly "forum writing" you do or have you/would you write a book about these sort of topics?
No book, just a hobby.
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Mickiel;1445620 wrote: No book, just a hobby.
You could still make your hobby into a book (my mum did, a bit earlier this year, and i'm so proud of her)
Anywho.. book or forum.. still writing is still a good hobby
You could still make your hobby into a book (my mum did, a bit earlier this year, and i'm so proud of her)
Anywho.. book or forum.. still writing is still a good hobby
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Chloe_88;1445623 wrote: You could still make your hobby into a book (my mum did, a bit earlier this year, and i'm so proud of her)
Anywho.. book or forum.. still writing is still a good hobby
Oh I think I have a book or five in me, but right now no desire to write one. What I write may well attract many, but it also offends many, and I have fought that offense for 20 years now; I grow tired of it; so I just know if I did a book, I would have to go back to fighting way too many people.
Who wants to fight for a hobby?
Anywho.. book or forum.. still writing is still a good hobby
Oh I think I have a book or five in me, but right now no desire to write one. What I write may well attract many, but it also offends many, and I have fought that offense for 20 years now; I grow tired of it; so I just know if I did a book, I would have to go back to fighting way too many people.
Who wants to fight for a hobby?
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Anyhow I welcome the conversations; any conversations. I have been accused of not discussing things with people; well bring your discussion and we will have it, your choice of topics since I have been accused of talking about God too much.
I welcome you to the conversation; your chance to discuss, your questions to ask; your statements to make, your sound bite or gripe.
I welcome you to the conversation; your chance to discuss, your questions to ask; your statements to make, your sound bite or gripe.
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Mickiel;1445624 wrote: Oh I think I have a book or five in me, but right now no desire to write one. What I write may well attract many, but it also offends many, and I have fought that offense for 20 years now; I grow tired of it; so I just know if I did a book, I would have to go back to fighting way too many people.
Who wants to fight for a hobby?
Ah no, that's true. Nobody wants that for a hobby. But; my mum was worried if she might offend people with her book, or people might misinterpret her words. That's the thing though, you can't controle how people interpret your words, so yes it is a "risk".
I can imagine you grow tired of it after 20 years though..
Who wants to fight for a hobby?
Ah no, that's true. Nobody wants that for a hobby. But; my mum was worried if she might offend people with her book, or people might misinterpret her words. That's the thing though, you can't controle how people interpret your words, so yes it is a "risk".
I can imagine you grow tired of it after 20 years though..
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Chloe_88;1445627 wrote: Ah no, that's true. Nobody wants that for a hobby. But; my mum was worried if she might offend people with her book, or people might misinterpret her words. That's the thing though, you can't controle how people interpret your words, so yes it is a "risk".
I can imagine you grow tired of it after 20 years though..
Well 20 years of it has been tiresome, I just like doing it. But its the many phases of people personality that drains you. People will hate you for some of the things that you do and say. Literally hate you. I have been hated by Theist and Atheist alike for years running. Not all of them, no; but enough of them. And your mom is exactly right, people will misinterpret your words; 100% no doubt in my mind that they will. It takes a certain strength to deal with all kinds of people everyday with all kinds of gripes. You would be surprised at the many emails I got over the years; I got so tired of it I changed it last year, after having the same one for 20 years.
Same thing even here at this site, no different. You just talk about God, stay in your section, and they will come after you. Try and get rid of you. So over the years I started changing, not letting just anybody push me around online.
Well, they get mad at that too. So I have discovered it just no longer matters what you do or how you are, people will just come after you, if you would dare to publically express your views; it just will be like that.
I can imagine you grow tired of it after 20 years though..
Well 20 years of it has been tiresome, I just like doing it. But its the many phases of people personality that drains you. People will hate you for some of the things that you do and say. Literally hate you. I have been hated by Theist and Atheist alike for years running. Not all of them, no; but enough of them. And your mom is exactly right, people will misinterpret your words; 100% no doubt in my mind that they will. It takes a certain strength to deal with all kinds of people everyday with all kinds of gripes. You would be surprised at the many emails I got over the years; I got so tired of it I changed it last year, after having the same one for 20 years.
Same thing even here at this site, no different. You just talk about God, stay in your section, and they will come after you. Try and get rid of you. So over the years I started changing, not letting just anybody push me around online.
Well, they get mad at that too. So I have discovered it just no longer matters what you do or how you are, people will just come after you, if you would dare to publically express your views; it just will be like that.
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Mickiel;1445605 wrote: The suggestion has been made that the ancients saw aliens and that those aliens were the " gods" men have come to believe in. I agree with that in part; I believe in God, one God, none of the mythical gods; just that one unknown God. I do consider him to be an alien, I agree with that. I agree that he once visited the earth, I agree with that. I agree he is not human in any manner. And I fully understand any ancient human calling this God an alien, I understand that; he is an alien.
And I think much of human history that depicts God as an alien, has been correct; however I totally disagree with any attempt to place God in any visual picture of an alien; no such thing exist; there are no pictures of God.
Can there be aliens " Other than God"; well yes, in my view. I think God has created all kinds of beings and angels, and I think men have seen some of these; and its just no telling how they could look.
And all we can call these " Things", is aliens.
Could they have helped with human technology? I think certainly yes, for sure. The pyramids, science, all these were influenced by these outside forces and man kind was helped; for sure, we did not do it alone; but I think it was God who masterminded it all. That's pretty much the way we see It Mikiel.
Whatever the culture, be It The Myans, Egyptians, Aztec's, Peruvians, India etc etc, depictions show the same mythological creatures throughout approx 4,000 years ago. What they saw, came from the sky and they show that In their writings and carvings. To them, these sky borne creatures were gods.
This Is one of the most Interesting to me:
Ancient Aliens | Puma Punku Structures
Even stranger... these ancient temples all contained Mica which can only be found In Brazil. Mica deflects radiation and Intense heat... Landing pads?
And I think much of human history that depicts God as an alien, has been correct; however I totally disagree with any attempt to place God in any visual picture of an alien; no such thing exist; there are no pictures of God.
Can there be aliens " Other than God"; well yes, in my view. I think God has created all kinds of beings and angels, and I think men have seen some of these; and its just no telling how they could look.
And all we can call these " Things", is aliens.
Could they have helped with human technology? I think certainly yes, for sure. The pyramids, science, all these were influenced by these outside forces and man kind was helped; for sure, we did not do it alone; but I think it was God who masterminded it all. That's pretty much the way we see It Mikiel.
Whatever the culture, be It The Myans, Egyptians, Aztec's, Peruvians, India etc etc, depictions show the same mythological creatures throughout approx 4,000 years ago. What they saw, came from the sky and they show that In their writings and carvings. To them, these sky borne creatures were gods.
This Is one of the most Interesting to me:
Ancient Aliens | Puma Punku Structures
Even stranger... these ancient temples all contained Mica which can only be found In Brazil. Mica deflects radiation and Intense heat... Landing pads?
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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oscar;1445633 wrote: That's pretty much the way we see It Mikiel.
Whatever the culture, be It The Myans, Egyptians, Aztec's, Peruvians, India etc etc, depictions show the same mythological creatures throughout approx 4,000 years ago. What they saw, came from the sky and they show that In their writings and carvings. To them, these sky borne creatures were gods.
This Is one of the most Interesting to me:
Ancient Aliens | Puma Punku Structures
Even stranger... these ancient temples all contained Mica which can only be found In Brazil. Mica deflects radiation and Intense heat... Landing pads?
Well I understand that many believe this, and our reasoning behind as to why we believe it certainly differ. As I have stated, in my view and belief about this, the aliens were either Angels or beings that Christ had previously created and allowed to visit the earth for some reason. Allowed these spirit beings to manifest themselves in physical forms for the twin purposes of being seen, and helping humanity to advance in whatever way God allowed.
Which allows us, ( or imparts knowledge to us), to have evidence that there is a God, ( or aliens), some where in reality, and thus the ancient religions were built on those origins. Now some may prefer the aliens to be beings that have nothing to do with religion and gods and those types of things, and would rather that they be just aliens having nothing to do with religious connotations. Then others would prefer that these ancient sightings and buildings and obvious archaeology be just man made myths.
Well what ever floats your belief; there are plenty of speculations to choose from, or you can dismiss them all.
I see it all as tying into and leading to a God creator and human influencer; it is literally academic to me, from my study of it all. I see those things from back then and I say to myself, " Its God", he was behind that. Even now, as I watched a news reel of a woman and a child being run over by a car in Brazil; the childs head was run complettely over by the back wheel in motion, and they both survived with only superficial bruses. I watch and I say thats God, still revealing himself, still giving humans things that are miracles to look at, and some humans still don't believe, still give it over to " Luck", happenstance, or anything but a God doing it.
Which is interesting to me.
Whatever the culture, be It The Myans, Egyptians, Aztec's, Peruvians, India etc etc, depictions show the same mythological creatures throughout approx 4,000 years ago. What they saw, came from the sky and they show that In their writings and carvings. To them, these sky borne creatures were gods.
This Is one of the most Interesting to me:
Ancient Aliens | Puma Punku Structures
Even stranger... these ancient temples all contained Mica which can only be found In Brazil. Mica deflects radiation and Intense heat... Landing pads?
Well I understand that many believe this, and our reasoning behind as to why we believe it certainly differ. As I have stated, in my view and belief about this, the aliens were either Angels or beings that Christ had previously created and allowed to visit the earth for some reason. Allowed these spirit beings to manifest themselves in physical forms for the twin purposes of being seen, and helping humanity to advance in whatever way God allowed.
Which allows us, ( or imparts knowledge to us), to have evidence that there is a God, ( or aliens), some where in reality, and thus the ancient religions were built on those origins. Now some may prefer the aliens to be beings that have nothing to do with religion and gods and those types of things, and would rather that they be just aliens having nothing to do with religious connotations. Then others would prefer that these ancient sightings and buildings and obvious archaeology be just man made myths.
Well what ever floats your belief; there are plenty of speculations to choose from, or you can dismiss them all.
I see it all as tying into and leading to a God creator and human influencer; it is literally academic to me, from my study of it all. I see those things from back then and I say to myself, " Its God", he was behind that. Even now, as I watched a news reel of a woman and a child being run over by a car in Brazil; the childs head was run complettely over by the back wheel in motion, and they both survived with only superficial bruses. I watch and I say thats God, still revealing himself, still giving humans things that are miracles to look at, and some humans still don't believe, still give it over to " Luck", happenstance, or anything but a God doing it.
Which is interesting to me.
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Mickiel;1445628 wrote: Well 20 years of it has been tiresome, I just like doing it. But its the many phases of people personality that drains you. People will hate you for some of the things that you do and say. Literally hate you. I have been hated by Theist and Atheist alike for years running. Not all of them, no; but enough of them. And your mom is exactly right, people will misinterpret your words; 100% no doubt in my mind that they will. It takes a certain strength to deal with all kinds of people everyday with all kinds of gripes. You would be surprised at the many emails I got over the years; I got so tired of it I changed it last year, after having the same one for 20 years.
Same thing even here at this site, no different. You just talk about God, stay in your section, and they will come after you. Try and get rid of you. So over the years I started changing, not letting just anybody push me around online.
Well, they get mad at that too. So I have discovered it just no longer matters what you do or how you are, people will just come after you, if you would dare to publically express your views; it just will be like that.
I agree with you on that. I can relate what you said about: Mickiel;1445628 wrote: it just no longer matters what you do or how you are, people will just come after you.
For me it wasn't on forums but it was when I was a bit of a geeky teenager. I tried a "normal" appearance. It still didn't matter. As seen as it didn't matter, people would still come after me, I went to the extreme, Gothic style (well just over 10 years ago in Holland, it was an extreme).
They still came after me (to a certain extent), but from that time on I dressed the way I felt best and took no notice of whatever other people said about me.
I still wear what I like to wear now, eventhough it's not a goth style anymore.
My best friend and I don't always agree, but we respect eachothers opinion and are fine with that. It's one thing not agreeing with someone, it's another to disrespect someone. I have cut many people out of my life that did not respect me. And I have never regretted it.
My point sort of being: I don't take notice of people thinking I'm some mad reptile, cat and dog loving lady with an opinion. If they don't like it, they don't have to listen to my opinion, ask for my opinion or even talk to me
But yes, people will come after you.. I just don't really take too much notice anymore.
Same thing even here at this site, no different. You just talk about God, stay in your section, and they will come after you. Try and get rid of you. So over the years I started changing, not letting just anybody push me around online.
Well, they get mad at that too. So I have discovered it just no longer matters what you do or how you are, people will just come after you, if you would dare to publically express your views; it just will be like that.
I agree with you on that. I can relate what you said about: Mickiel;1445628 wrote: it just no longer matters what you do or how you are, people will just come after you.
For me it wasn't on forums but it was when I was a bit of a geeky teenager. I tried a "normal" appearance. It still didn't matter. As seen as it didn't matter, people would still come after me, I went to the extreme, Gothic style (well just over 10 years ago in Holland, it was an extreme).
They still came after me (to a certain extent), but from that time on I dressed the way I felt best and took no notice of whatever other people said about me.
I still wear what I like to wear now, eventhough it's not a goth style anymore.
My best friend and I don't always agree, but we respect eachothers opinion and are fine with that. It's one thing not agreeing with someone, it's another to disrespect someone. I have cut many people out of my life that did not respect me. And I have never regretted it.
My point sort of being: I don't take notice of people thinking I'm some mad reptile, cat and dog loving lady with an opinion. If they don't like it, they don't have to listen to my opinion, ask for my opinion or even talk to me
But yes, people will come after you.. I just don't really take too much notice anymore.
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oscar;1445633 wrote: That's pretty much the way we see It Mikiel.
Whatever the culture, be It The Myans, Egyptians, Aztec's, Peruvians, India etc etc, depictions show the same mythological creatures throughout approx 4,000 years ago. What they saw, came from the sky and they show that In their writings and carvings. To them, these sky borne creatures were gods.
This Is one of the most Interesting to me:
Ancient Aliens | Puma Punku Structures
Even stranger... these ancient temples all contained Mica which can only be found In Brazil. Mica deflects radiation and Intense heat... Landing pads?
Um, Mica is actually quite common all over the world.
Whatever the culture, be It The Myans, Egyptians, Aztec's, Peruvians, India etc etc, depictions show the same mythological creatures throughout approx 4,000 years ago. What they saw, came from the sky and they show that In their writings and carvings. To them, these sky borne creatures were gods.
This Is one of the most Interesting to me:
Ancient Aliens | Puma Punku Structures
Even stranger... these ancient temples all contained Mica which can only be found In Brazil. Mica deflects radiation and Intense heat... Landing pads?
Um, Mica is actually quite common all over the world.
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Mickiel;1445641 wrote: Well I understand that many believe this, and our reasoning behind as to why we believe it certainly differ. As I have stated, in my view and belief about this, the aliens were either Angels or beings that Christ had previously created and allowed to visit the earth for some reason. Allowed these spirit beings to manifest themselves in physical forms for the twin purposes of being seen, and helping humanity to advance in whatever way God allowed.
Which allows us, ( or imparts knowledge to us), to have evidence that there is a God, ( or aliens), some where in reality, and thus the ancient religions were built on those origins. Now some may prefer the aliens to be beings that have nothing to do with religion and gods and those types of things, and would rather that they be just aliens having nothing to do with religious connotations. Then others would prefer that these ancient sightings and buildings and obvious archaeology be just man made myths.
Well what ever floats your belief; there are plenty of speculations to choose from, or you can dismiss them all.
I see it all as tying into and leading to a God creator and human influencer; it is literally academic to me, from my study of it all. I see those things from back then and I say to myself, " Its God", he was behind that. Even now, as I watched a news reel of a woman and a child being run over by a car in Brazil; the childs head was run complettely over by the back wheel in motion, and they both survived with only superficial bruses. I watch and I say thats God, still revealing himself, still giving humans things that are miracles to look at, and some humans still don't believe, still give it over to " Luck", happenstance, or anything but a God doing it.
Which is interesting to me.
I totally get that. Great Post and reply... Thank You.
Which allows us, ( or imparts knowledge to us), to have evidence that there is a God, ( or aliens), some where in reality, and thus the ancient religions were built on those origins. Now some may prefer the aliens to be beings that have nothing to do with religion and gods and those types of things, and would rather that they be just aliens having nothing to do with religious connotations. Then others would prefer that these ancient sightings and buildings and obvious archaeology be just man made myths.
Well what ever floats your belief; there are plenty of speculations to choose from, or you can dismiss them all.
I see it all as tying into and leading to a God creator and human influencer; it is literally academic to me, from my study of it all. I see those things from back then and I say to myself, " Its God", he was behind that. Even now, as I watched a news reel of a woman and a child being run over by a car in Brazil; the childs head was run complettely over by the back wheel in motion, and they both survived with only superficial bruses. I watch and I say thats God, still revealing himself, still giving humans things that are miracles to look at, and some humans still don't believe, still give it over to " Luck", happenstance, or anything but a God doing it.
Which is interesting to me.
I totally get that. Great Post and reply... Thank You.
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Chloe_88;1445688 wrote: I agree with you on that. I can relate what you said about: .
For me it wasn't on forums but it was when I was a bit of a geeky teenager. I tried a "normal" appearance. It still didn't matter. As seen as it didn't matter, people would still come after me, I went to the extreme, Gothic style (well just over 10 years ago in Holland, it was an extreme).
They still came after me (to a certain extent), but from that time on I dressed the way I felt best and took no notice of whatever other people said about me.
I still wear what I like to wear now, eventhough it's not a goth style anymore.
My best friend and I don't always agree, but we respect eachothers opinion and are fine with that. It's one thing not agreeing with someone, it's another to disrespect someone. I have cut many people out of my life that did not respect me. And I have never regretted it.
My point sort of being: I don't take notice of people thinking I'm some mad reptile, cat and dog loving lady with an opinion. If they don't like it, they don't have to listen to my opinion, ask for my opinion or even talk to me
But yes, people will come after you.. I just don't really take too much notice anymore.
I don't blame you at all, in fact, I feel exactly as you did, and I did exactly what you did; and I do it here.
If they don't like it, they don't have to listen.
For me it wasn't on forums but it was when I was a bit of a geeky teenager. I tried a "normal" appearance. It still didn't matter. As seen as it didn't matter, people would still come after me, I went to the extreme, Gothic style (well just over 10 years ago in Holland, it was an extreme).
They still came after me (to a certain extent), but from that time on I dressed the way I felt best and took no notice of whatever other people said about me.
I still wear what I like to wear now, eventhough it's not a goth style anymore.
My best friend and I don't always agree, but we respect eachothers opinion and are fine with that. It's one thing not agreeing with someone, it's another to disrespect someone. I have cut many people out of my life that did not respect me. And I have never regretted it.
My point sort of being: I don't take notice of people thinking I'm some mad reptile, cat and dog loving lady with an opinion. If they don't like it, they don't have to listen to my opinion, ask for my opinion or even talk to me
But yes, people will come after you.. I just don't really take too much notice anymore.
I don't blame you at all, in fact, I feel exactly as you did, and I did exactly what you did; and I do it here.
If they don't like it, they don't have to listen.
Welcome to conversation.
You are welcome to come sit and chat; have a coffee or tea and lets talk. Whatever is on your mind. I have been accused of not discussing things with members and visitors, and I maintain that is just not the truth; its a smoke screen that others who disrespect me always like to throw up.
I cannot force you to talk, but I can welcome you to conversation; any of you. And I can treat you with respect while you are at this table.
I cannot force you to talk, but I can welcome you to conversation; any of you. And I can treat you with respect while you are at this table.
Welcome to conversation.
Mickiel;1445760 wrote: You are welcome to come sit and chat; have a coffee or tea and lets talk. Whatever is on your mind. I have been accused of not discussing things with members and visitors, and I maintain that is just not the truth; its a smoke screen that others who disrespect me always like to throw up.
I cannot force you to talk, but I can welcome you to conversation; any of you. And I can treat you with respect while you are at this table.
Well, it is nice to see you opening up a bit. Regarding the bolded line above, though, I did on at least one occasion attempt to converse with you a year or so back, and your response made it obvious you had no real interest in conversation. I understand, now that you were going through some difficulty at the time, and hold no hard feelings about that, but you were not so inviting in those days.
It is nice to see you trying to lower your defenses. To use your words, most folks around here won't bite, and if they get a bit testy, all you need to do is walk away and let them calm down.
So, back at ya, "welcome to the conversation"
I cannot force you to talk, but I can welcome you to conversation; any of you. And I can treat you with respect while you are at this table.
Well, it is nice to see you opening up a bit. Regarding the bolded line above, though, I did on at least one occasion attempt to converse with you a year or so back, and your response made it obvious you had no real interest in conversation. I understand, now that you were going through some difficulty at the time, and hold no hard feelings about that, but you were not so inviting in those days.
It is nice to see you trying to lower your defenses. To use your words, most folks around here won't bite, and if they get a bit testy, all you need to do is walk away and let them calm down.
So, back at ya, "welcome to the conversation"
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LarsMac;1445762 wrote: Well, it is nice to see you opening up a bit. Regarding the bolded line above, though, I did on at least one occasion attempt to converse with you a year or so back, and your response made it obvious you had no real interest in conversation. I understand, now that you were going through some difficulty at the time, and hold no hard feelings about that, but you were not so inviting in those days.
It is nice to see you trying to lower your defenses. To use your words, most folks around here won't bite, and if they get a bit testy, all you need to do is walk away and let them calm down.
So, back at ya, "welcome to the conversation"
What is it that you want to talk about?
It is nice to see you trying to lower your defenses. To use your words, most folks around here won't bite, and if they get a bit testy, all you need to do is walk away and let them calm down.
So, back at ya, "welcome to the conversation"
What is it that you want to talk about?
Welcome to conversation.
Mickiel;1445763 wrote: What is it that you want to talk about?
That was it. For the moment.
That was it. For the moment.
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LarsMac;1445764 wrote: That was it. For the moment.
Well I don't remember ever talking much to you, but I admit in years past I was not so inviting. I was harder and was a headhunter of whoever got in my way. Yes those were the days of shoot to kill and keep hunting. I have mellowed some, and understand much more. But I don't regret the message, I regret the way I delivered it at times.
In my view, speaking with Christians and Atheist were my greatest challanges ; yes, with those two I had my most stiff wars; and I learned from the battles. Then life has a way of comming full circle and you are faced with going through the same thing again, but only now with a different mindset. So you learn to do things differently. Oh I still believe mostly the same things , but I grow tired of the battle and just don't have much of a desire to kill any more.
I don't have to crush everyone I talk to.
Well I don't remember ever talking much to you, but I admit in years past I was not so inviting. I was harder and was a headhunter of whoever got in my way. Yes those were the days of shoot to kill and keep hunting. I have mellowed some, and understand much more. But I don't regret the message, I regret the way I delivered it at times.
In my view, speaking with Christians and Atheist were my greatest challanges ; yes, with those two I had my most stiff wars; and I learned from the battles. Then life has a way of comming full circle and you are faced with going through the same thing again, but only now with a different mindset. So you learn to do things differently. Oh I still believe mostly the same things , but I grow tired of the battle and just don't have much of a desire to kill any more.
I don't have to crush everyone I talk to.
Welcome to conversation.
Welcome to the conversation; why sit back and say nothing? Talk; communicate; express yourself.
In my view, the vast majority of viewers on a website say nothing.
Absolutely nothing; but yet they are swayed by what they read. This is why you need to speak your mind; your belief, because others who speak it may well be defraging it in the wrong manner; thats why I do not let religion and Christians speak for me.
One thing I have either taught or impressed on every woman I have ever had, is to speak your mind and communicate your conscious.
And I encourage that to those who may well read my threads and for whatever reason do not communicate with me.
Lets talk; and I welcome you to the conversation.
In my view, the vast majority of viewers on a website say nothing.
Absolutely nothing; but yet they are swayed by what they read. This is why you need to speak your mind; your belief, because others who speak it may well be defraging it in the wrong manner; thats why I do not let religion and Christians speak for me.
One thing I have either taught or impressed on every woman I have ever had, is to speak your mind and communicate your conscious.
And I encourage that to those who may well read my threads and for whatever reason do not communicate with me.
Lets talk; and I welcome you to the conversation.
Welcome to conversation.
As welcome as your thread is
Instead of us coming to you, you could come to us. It's not like you need to leave your chair.
Let's talk. We welcome you to OUR conversation
Instead of us coming to you, you could come to us. It's not like you need to leave your chair.
Let's talk. We welcome you to OUR conversation
"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire."
Winston Churchill
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Snowfire;1445786 wrote: As welcome as your thread is
Instead of us coming to you, you could come to us. It's not like you need to leave your chair.
Let's talk. We welcome you to OUR conversation
What is it that you want to talk about?
Instead of us coming to you, you could come to us. It's not like you need to leave your chair.
Let's talk. We welcome you to OUR conversation
What is it that you want to talk about?
Welcome to conversation.
Snowfire;1445786 wrote: As welcome as your thread is
Instead of us coming to you, you could come to us. It's not like you need to leave your chair.
Let's talk. We welcome you to OUR conversation
I put some thought to this; and I will bring the conversation to you; to the Atheist, to whoever.
I will come to your threads.
Instead of us coming to you, you could come to us. It's not like you need to leave your chair.
Let's talk. We welcome you to OUR conversation
I put some thought to this; and I will bring the conversation to you; to the Atheist, to whoever.
I will come to your threads.
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Mickiel;1445938 wrote: I put some thought to this; and I will bring the conversation to you; to the Atheist, to whoever.
I will come to your threads.
But isn't that what all of this fuss is being made about? The irony...
I will come to your threads.
But isn't that what all of this fuss is being made about? The irony...
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Singh-Song;1445942 wrote: But isn't that what all of this fuss is being made about? The irony...
No, no; don't fall for that Singh; the fuss is about me being a believer in God and getting so much attention on my threads; which is both a mystery to some Atheist here, and an irritation that sparks envy and in some hatred; but I think hatred in only a few, not the most. Most Atheist here are like me, we couldcareless what other people think about our views; oh but some of them can't stand anyone who has a stronger view than them that attracts others.
This is the heart and core of the fuss; in my view. And anythingelse is just a smoke screen to hide this.
No, no; don't fall for that Singh; the fuss is about me being a believer in God and getting so much attention on my threads; which is both a mystery to some Atheist here, and an irritation that sparks envy and in some hatred; but I think hatred in only a few, not the most. Most Atheist here are like me, we couldcareless what other people think about our views; oh but some of them can't stand anyone who has a stronger view than them that attracts others.
This is the heart and core of the fuss; in my view. And anythingelse is just a smoke screen to hide this.
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Singh-Song;1445942 wrote: But isn't that what all of this fuss is being made about? The irony...
Can I ask politely... why are you here?
You came In late last night and posted a thread ' Blog for Mikiel' calling for him to post no further threads, You then went on to Insult him with this:
Re: Blog for Mickiel?
It was just a suggestion, Mickiel. And a constructive one to boot. I'm guessing from the amount of time you spend posting on here that you don't get out much, so I just thought that garnering some extra income from what setting up a blog, and continuing to do what you do regularly anyway, might be worthwhile. Still, if you're lucky enough not to have any money worries (I know I'm not), then feel free to ignore it. Peace...
You say It's just a suggestion but here's the thing.
In all your time on FG you have made just 70 posts. You have posted just 2 new threads before last night. The last thread you posted prior to last night was on 3rd September 2007.
The you ask for your thread last night to be closed.
So this Is the bit I am not getting.... why wait 6 and a half years before posting a new thread? Why after 6 and a half years, Is the topic of your thread Mikiel and his threads?
After 6 and a half years of no new threads, why hone In on Mikiel? Because I'm really Interested. Why not my horse racing threads? Why not Ahso's gun threads? Why not Along for the ride's chatty threads?
You haven't posted a single thread since 2007 and then you come In last night wanting a long standing members posting restricted. How do you arrive at the right to do that?
Now, after having your ' Blog for Mikiel' thread closed down, the first place you post Is here ????????
Any reason you'd like to share with us?
Can I ask politely... why are you here?
You came In late last night and posted a thread ' Blog for Mikiel' calling for him to post no further threads, You then went on to Insult him with this:
Re: Blog for Mickiel?
It was just a suggestion, Mickiel. And a constructive one to boot. I'm guessing from the amount of time you spend posting on here that you don't get out much, so I just thought that garnering some extra income from what setting up a blog, and continuing to do what you do regularly anyway, might be worthwhile. Still, if you're lucky enough not to have any money worries (I know I'm not), then feel free to ignore it. Peace...
You say It's just a suggestion but here's the thing.
In all your time on FG you have made just 70 posts. You have posted just 2 new threads before last night. The last thread you posted prior to last night was on 3rd September 2007.
The you ask for your thread last night to be closed.
So this Is the bit I am not getting.... why wait 6 and a half years before posting a new thread? Why after 6 and a half years, Is the topic of your thread Mikiel and his threads?
After 6 and a half years of no new threads, why hone In on Mikiel? Because I'm really Interested. Why not my horse racing threads? Why not Ahso's gun threads? Why not Along for the ride's chatty threads?
You haven't posted a single thread since 2007 and then you come In last night wanting a long standing members posting restricted. How do you arrive at the right to do that?
Now, after having your ' Blog for Mikiel' thread closed down, the first place you post Is here ????????
Any reason you'd like to share with us?
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oscar;1445960 wrote: Can I ask politely... why are you here?
You came In late last night and posted a thread ' Blog for Mikiel' calling for him to post no further threads, You then went on to Insult him with this:
Re: Blog for Mickiel?
It was just a suggestion, Mickiel. And a constructive one to boot. I'm guessing from the amount of time you spend posting on here that you don't get out much, so I just thought that garnering some extra income from what setting up a blog, and continuing to do what you do regularly anyway, might be worthwhile. Still, if you're lucky enough not to have any money worries (I know I'm not), then feel free to ignore it. Peace...
You say It's just a suggestion but here's the thing.
In all your time on FG you have made just 70 posts. You have posted just 2 new threads before last night. The last thread you posted prior to last night was on 3rd September 2007.
The you ask for your thread last night to be closed.
So this Is the bit I am not getting.... why wait 6 and a half years before posting a new thread? Why after 6 and a half years, Is the topic of your thread Mikiel and his threads?
After 6 and a half years of no new threads, why hone In on Mikiel? Because I'm really Interested. Why not my horse racing threads? Why not Ahso's gun threads? Why not Along for the ride's chatty threads?
You haven't posted a single thread since 2007 and then you come In last night wanting a long standing members posting restricted. How do you arrive at the right to do that?
Now, after having your ' Blog for Mikiel' thread closed down, the first place you post Is here ????????
Any reason you'd like to share with us?
Because I was subscribed to a single thread for all of this time, and that thread was only resurrected last night, providing a reminder of my account's existence. As soon as you cleared things up for me and brought me up to speed with the existence of the 'Ban Mickiel' thread, I requested that the thread be closed immediately in recognition of the fact that I couldn't claim to have the right to call for a restriction on his posting on this forum. And if you take a look at the last few posts I've been making over the past couple of days, you will see that I haven't been homing in exclusively on Mickiel, but attempting to engage in a number of discussions with several individuals. However, the forums which interest me most at the moment are those where I can engage in theological discussions, and as such, it's inevitable that I'll be posting on some of the same threads as Mickiel. I have no desire to pick a fight with anyone though, or to enter into a grudge match; read my latest posts, and you'll see that in a number of them, I'm actually supporting Mickiel's stance, not arguing against it. As for the quotation which you cited, it wasn't intended as a criticism of Mickiel at all, but as a show of support. Please, let's just let things lie, put this in the past, and accept Article 18 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, stating that everyone has the right to a freedom of thought, conscience and religion.
You came In late last night and posted a thread ' Blog for Mikiel' calling for him to post no further threads, You then went on to Insult him with this:
Re: Blog for Mickiel?
It was just a suggestion, Mickiel. And a constructive one to boot. I'm guessing from the amount of time you spend posting on here that you don't get out much, so I just thought that garnering some extra income from what setting up a blog, and continuing to do what you do regularly anyway, might be worthwhile. Still, if you're lucky enough not to have any money worries (I know I'm not), then feel free to ignore it. Peace...
You say It's just a suggestion but here's the thing.
In all your time on FG you have made just 70 posts. You have posted just 2 new threads before last night. The last thread you posted prior to last night was on 3rd September 2007.
The you ask for your thread last night to be closed.
So this Is the bit I am not getting.... why wait 6 and a half years before posting a new thread? Why after 6 and a half years, Is the topic of your thread Mikiel and his threads?
After 6 and a half years of no new threads, why hone In on Mikiel? Because I'm really Interested. Why not my horse racing threads? Why not Ahso's gun threads? Why not Along for the ride's chatty threads?
You haven't posted a single thread since 2007 and then you come In last night wanting a long standing members posting restricted. How do you arrive at the right to do that?
Now, after having your ' Blog for Mikiel' thread closed down, the first place you post Is here ????????
Any reason you'd like to share with us?
Because I was subscribed to a single thread for all of this time, and that thread was only resurrected last night, providing a reminder of my account's existence. As soon as you cleared things up for me and brought me up to speed with the existence of the 'Ban Mickiel' thread, I requested that the thread be closed immediately in recognition of the fact that I couldn't claim to have the right to call for a restriction on his posting on this forum. And if you take a look at the last few posts I've been making over the past couple of days, you will see that I haven't been homing in exclusively on Mickiel, but attempting to engage in a number of discussions with several individuals. However, the forums which interest me most at the moment are those where I can engage in theological discussions, and as such, it's inevitable that I'll be posting on some of the same threads as Mickiel. I have no desire to pick a fight with anyone though, or to enter into a grudge match; read my latest posts, and you'll see that in a number of them, I'm actually supporting Mickiel's stance, not arguing against it. As for the quotation which you cited, it wasn't intended as a criticism of Mickiel at all, but as a show of support. Please, let's just let things lie, put this in the past, and accept Article 18 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, stating that everyone has the right to a freedom of thought, conscience and religion.
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Singh-Song;1445970 wrote: Because I was subscribed to a single thread for all of this time, and that thread was only resurrected last night, providing a reminder of my account's existence. As soon as you cleared things up for me and brought me up to speed with the existence of the 'Ban Mickiel' thread, I requested that the thread be closed immediately in recognition of the fact that I couldn't claim to have the right to call for a restriction on his posting on this forum. And if you take a look at the last few posts I've been making over the past couple of days, you will see that I haven't been homing in exclusively on Mickiel, but attempting to engage in a number of discussions with several individuals. However, the forums which interest me most at the moment are those where I can engage in theological discussions, and as such, it's inevitable that I'll be posting on some of the same threads as Mickiel. I have no desire to pick a fight with anyone though, or to enter into a grudge match; read my latest posts, and you'll see that in a number of them, I'm actually supporting Mickiel's stance, not arguing against it. As for the quotation which you cited, it wasn't intended as a criticism of Mickiel at all, but as a show of support. Please, let's just let things lie, put this in the past, and accept Article 18 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, stating that everyone has the right to a freedom of thought, conscience and religion.
Well he had you dead to rights, but I sense a desire in you to move on. I was asked to do that today, but I was already doing it anyway. Let things be and do what I can to help things improve. Thats why I did this thread, and its why I am posting on other threads; to show a willingness to do what I have been criticised for not doing; although I disagree with that criticism, I made the extra effort anyway.
Put things in the past and keep moving. I got a few wounds and stabs, but I still live.
And I can still write.
Well he had you dead to rights, but I sense a desire in you to move on. I was asked to do that today, but I was already doing it anyway. Let things be and do what I can to help things improve. Thats why I did this thread, and its why I am posting on other threads; to show a willingness to do what I have been criticised for not doing; although I disagree with that criticism, I made the extra effort anyway.
Put things in the past and keep moving. I got a few wounds and stabs, but I still live.
And I can still write.
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Mickiel;1445981 wrote: Well he had you dead to rights, but I sense a desire in you to move on. I was asked to do that today, but I was already doing it anyway. Let things be and do what I can to help things improve. Thats why I did this thread, and its why I am posting on other threads; to show a willingness to do what I have been criticised for not doing; although I disagree with that criticism, I made the extra effort anyway.
Put things in the past and keep moving. I got a few wounds and stabs, but I still live.
And I can still write.
Mikiel.... I'm a lady not a he :wah: Oscar Is female...
Sing.... Thank You for your explanation. That makes me feel better that your thread was not just another witch hunt.
Now all that's been said, let's move on In deed.
Put things in the past and keep moving. I got a few wounds and stabs, but I still live.
And I can still write.
Mikiel.... I'm a lady not a he :wah: Oscar Is female...
Sing.... Thank You for your explanation. That makes me feel better that your thread was not just another witch hunt.
Now all that's been said, let's move on In deed.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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oscar;1445995 wrote: Mikiel.... I'm a lady not a he :wah: Oscar Is female...
Sing.... Thank You for your explanation. That makes me feel better that your thread was not just another witch hunt.
Now all that's been said, let's move on In deed.
Oh I am sorry, well you had him dead to rights anyhow, but I am happy to see your willingness to move on.
Peace is caused by such willingness.
Sing.... Thank You for your explanation. That makes me feel better that your thread was not just another witch hunt.
Now all that's been said, let's move on In deed.
Oh I am sorry, well you had him dead to rights anyhow, but I am happy to see your willingness to move on.
Peace is caused by such willingness.
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Mickiel;1445997 wrote: Oh I am sorry, well you had him dead to rights anyhow, but I am happy to see your willingness to move on.
Peace is caused by such willingness. No apology needed... my user name Is after my Persian Cat, Oscar.
Peace is caused by such willingness. No apology needed... my user name Is after my Persian Cat, Oscar.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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oscar;1445998 wrote: No apology needed... my user name Is after my Persian Cat, Oscar.
I see; still your thoughts have been refreshing; I hope the redicule which follows after me does not taint you.
Peace.
I see; still your thoughts have been refreshing; I hope the redicule which follows after me does not taint you.
Peace.
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Mickiel;1446000 wrote: I see; still your thoughts have been refreshing; I hope the redicule which follows after me does not taint you.
Peace. Not at all.... I'm too strong willed to be taken down a wrong path by others.
Peace. Not at all.... I'm too strong willed to be taken down a wrong path by others.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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oscar;1446016 wrote: Not at all.... I'm too strong willed to be taken down a wrong path by others.
Well good, because hate is strong willed, and peer pressure on sites can be strong influences;people will try to invent connections with others that don't exist, just because you agreed with a few things the other had to say.
But I welcome you to the conversation; I value the imput of a strong woman, who is not tainted by hate and peer pressure.
Well good, because hate is strong willed, and peer pressure on sites can be strong influences;people will try to invent connections with others that don't exist, just because you agreed with a few things the other had to say.
But I welcome you to the conversation; I value the imput of a strong woman, who is not tainted by hate and peer pressure.
Welcome to conversation.
I welcome you to talk; I am open to conversation. The Atheist claim and gripe that I do not talk, is just a jealous smoke screen.
I am here;
I am here;