Signs attached to storage containers lined up in an employee-only area ask workers to “donate food items here so associates in need can enjoy Thanksgiving dinner.
It is also the biggest private employer in the world with over two million employees, and is the largest retailer in the world.
A shining beacon for private enterprise ?
Turning me further left than I was........
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Bruv;1441045 wrote: Signs attached to storage containers lined up in an employee-only area ask workers to “donate food items here so associates in need can enjoy Thanksgiving dinner.
It is also the biggest private employer in the world with over two million employees, and is the largest retailer in the world.
A shining beacon for private enterprise ?
Turning me further left than I was........Be careful - you'll end up going in a circle.
It is also the biggest private employer in the world with over two million employees, and is the largest retailer in the world.
A shining beacon for private enterprise ?
Turning me further left than I was........Be careful - you'll end up going in a circle.
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Hey were's this new turn around 'Sense of humour' come from ?
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Can you see Asda following suit ?
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oscar;1441059 wrote: Can you see Asda following suit ?
I actually work at my local Asda store, not employed by Asda though, I am maintanance.
All these new jobs, the ones the government claims they have generated ? Many are in the likes of Asda, 20 hour jobs, so *cough* Full time emplyment for statistic purposes, don't show as unemployed. Everybody claims benefit of types, subsidising "The largest retailer in the world" wage bill, making them able to claim to 10% cheaper or twice the difference back.
Yes......I think I am returning to the barricades......all together now.....
The people's flag is deepest red,
It shrouded oft our martyred dead
I actually work at my local Asda store, not employed by Asda though, I am maintanance.
All these new jobs, the ones the government claims they have generated ? Many are in the likes of Asda, 20 hour jobs, so *cough* Full time emplyment for statistic purposes, don't show as unemployed. Everybody claims benefit of types, subsidising "The largest retailer in the world" wage bill, making them able to claim to 10% cheaper or twice the difference back.
Yes......I think I am returning to the barricades......all together now.....
The people's flag is deepest red,
It shrouded oft our martyred dead
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Keep warm this winter set fire to a tory with labour, the lib dems could do the fireworks but apparently they're a bit of a damp squib.
You forget we are also subsidising the energy companies and the bankers.
You forget we are also subsidising the energy companies and the bankers.
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Bruv;1441045 wrote: Signs attached to storage containers lined up in an employee-only area ask workers to “donate food items here so associates in need can enjoy Thanksgiving dinner.
It is also the biggest private employer in the world with over two million employees, and is the largest retailer in the world.
A shining beacon for private enterprise ?
Turning me further left than I was........
What a concept, people helping each other.
I see Walmart doing a good thing.
It is also the biggest private employer in the world with over two million employees, and is the largest retailer in the world.
A shining beacon for private enterprise ?
Turning me further left than I was........
What a concept, people helping each other.
I see Walmart doing a good thing.
What happened to Kamala Harris' campaign?
She had the black vote all locked up.
She had the black vote all locked up.
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They shouldn't have to be doing this .
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tude dog;1441121 wrote: What a concept, people helping each other.
I see Walmart doing a good thing.
Out of curiosity what would your opinion be if the walmart employees got together and went on strike to demand a greater share of the companies profits in the form of higher wages?
I see Walmart doing a good thing.
Out of curiosity what would your opinion be if the walmart employees got together and went on strike to demand a greater share of the companies profits in the form of higher wages?
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tude dog;1441121 wrote: What a concept, people helping each other.
I see Walmart doing a good thing.
So you looked at the links I put up ?
Good god man......80% of their suppliers located in China.
405 billion dollars profit a year.......much owed to China?
100,000,000 Americans a week supporting the Chinese economy by shopping at the Worlds third largest corporation.
And it's family owned..........by the Walton family....goodnight John Boy, goodnight Mary Ellen......goodbye American values ?
I see Walmart doing a good thing.
So you looked at the links I put up ?
Good god man......80% of their suppliers located in China.
405 billion dollars profit a year.......much owed to China?
100,000,000 Americans a week supporting the Chinese economy by shopping at the Worlds third largest corporation.
And it's family owned..........by the Walton family....goodnight John Boy, goodnight Mary Ellen......goodbye American values ?
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gmc;1441133 wrote: Out of curiosity what would your opinion be if the walmart employees got together and went on strike to demand a greater share of the companies profits in the form of higher wages?
If joining unions is what they want, I have no dog in that fight.
I thought interesting demand a greater share of the companies profits in the form of higher wages
hmm, maybe those who invested in the company might have a different point if view.
Lets see, who took the risk.
Share holder, no guarantee
Hourly employee who receives, by law his hourly wages, and many companies offer further 'benefits'.
If joining unions is what they want, I have no dog in that fight.
I thought interesting demand a greater share of the companies profits in the form of higher wages
hmm, maybe those who invested in the company might have a different point if view.
Lets see, who took the risk.
Share holder, no guarantee
Hourly employee who receives, by law his hourly wages, and many companies offer further 'benefits'.
What happened to Kamala Harris' campaign?
She had the black vote all locked up.
She had the black vote all locked up.
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Walmart is privately held by the Walton family, so they are the only holders.
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gmc;1441133 wrote: Out of curiosity what would your opinion be if the walmart employees got together and went on strike to demand a greater share of the companies profits in the form of higher wages?
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tude dog;1441144 wrote: If joining unions is what they want, I have no dog in that fight.
I thought interesting
hmm, maybe those who invested in the company might have a different point if view.
Lets see, who took the risk.
Share holder, no guarantee
Hourly employee who receives, by law his hourly wages, and many companies offer further 'benefits'.
I state here and now ......."you disgust me after that comment"
I thought interesting
hmm, maybe those who invested in the company might have a different point if view.
Lets see, who took the risk.
Share holder, no guarantee
Hourly employee who receives, by law his hourly wages, and many companies offer further 'benefits'.
I state here and now ......."you disgust me after that comment"
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In twelve weeks, on the busiest shopping day of the year, Walmart workers will mount what may be the biggest-ever US strike against the retail giant.
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AnneBoleyn;1441151 wrote: Walmart is privately held by the Walton family, so they are the only holders.
Untrue.
The Walton family, all members combined, own less than 50% of WalMart stock.
Untrue.
The Walton family, all members combined, own less than 50% of WalMart stock.
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The Walton family includes the 6th 7th 8th and 9th richest people in America
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LarsMac;1441188 wrote: Untrue.
The Walton family, all members combined, own less than 50% of WalMart stock.
Who owns the rest? Please don't send me a link, just tell me. It's a private company though, is that right?
The Walton family, all members combined, own less than 50% of WalMart stock.
Who owns the rest? Please don't send me a link, just tell me. It's a private company though, is that right?
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AnneBoleyn;1441196 wrote: Who owns the rest? Please don't send me a link, just tell me. It's a private company though, is that right?
No. It's a publicly traded company. The Walton family deliberately avoided holding a majority of the stock to stay out of the management of the company.
I am pretty sure Ol' Sam and Helen turn over in their graves, regularly, if they see what the company has become. They always believed in taking care of the employees.
No. It's a publicly traded company. The Walton family deliberately avoided holding a majority of the stock to stay out of the management of the company.
I am pretty sure Ol' Sam and Helen turn over in their graves, regularly, if they see what the company has become. They always believed in taking care of the employees.
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AnneBoleyn;1441196 wrote: Who owns the rest? Please don't send me a link, just tell me. It's a private company though, is that right?
It doesn't really matter, being that at least four Walton family members are amongst the ten richest Americans, riches counted in billions, whilst their employees are having collections for fellow employees.
It doesn't really matter, being that at least four Walton family members are amongst the ten richest Americans, riches counted in billions, whilst their employees are having collections for fellow employees.
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posted by tude dog
hmm, maybe those who invested in the company might have a different point if view.
Lets see, who took the risk.
Share holder, no guarantee
Hourly employee who receives, by law his hourly wages, and many companies offer further 'benefits'.
The question might perhaps be why should the opinion of those who invested in the company be the only oner that matters? Surely those who choose to work for them are also investing in the company with their time and labour, should they not then be able to negotiate how much that is worth and if doing so collectively makes that a fairer process why should they not do do - without them there is no walmart and no profit. Monopolies are not good for capitalism and if the lack of alternative employment forces down wages that isn't actually good for the economy. Walmart is one of the companies that chose not to invest in the US economy instead buying abroad eventually there will be no one left top buy what they are importing.
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So does that mean you believe people should touch their forelocks and be grateful for what the generous employer is willing to pay them?
hmm, maybe those who invested in the company might have a different point if view.
Lets see, who took the risk.
Share holder, no guarantee
Hourly employee who receives, by law his hourly wages, and many companies offer further 'benefits'.
The question might perhaps be why should the opinion of those who invested in the company be the only oner that matters? Surely those who choose to work for them are also investing in the company with their time and labour, should they not then be able to negotiate how much that is worth and if doing so collectively makes that a fairer process why should they not do do - without them there is no walmart and no profit. Monopolies are not good for capitalism and if the lack of alternative employment forces down wages that isn't actually good for the economy. Walmart is one of the companies that chose not to invest in the US economy instead buying abroad eventually there will be no one left top buy what they are importing.
posted by fuzzywuzzy
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So does that mean you believe people should touch their forelocks and be grateful for what the generous employer is willing to pay them?
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@gmc.... Strangley enough a few years ago Asda a member of the Walmart family......was supposedly at the top of the best companies to work for in the UK.
The old idea of investing in your own workers is a good idea in times when there is plenty of work, I suppose it works the other way when workers are just happy to have any job, the employer can always get more staff eager to impress, if they don't come up to scratch there is always the queue at the job centre
The old idea of investing in your own workers is a good idea in times when there is plenty of work, I suppose it works the other way when workers are just happy to have any job, the employer can always get more staff eager to impress, if they don't come up to scratch there is always the queue at the job centre
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Bruv;1441224 wrote: @gmc.... Strangley enough a few years ago Asda a member of the Walmart family......was supposedly at the top of the best companies to work for in the UK.
The old idea of investing in your own workers is a good idea in times when there is plenty of work, I suppose it works the other way when workers are just happy to have any job, the employer can always get more staff eager to impress, if they don't come up to scratch there is always the queue at the job centre
It's a good idea at all times a discontented workforce under performs, goes slow, doesn't take enough care with paperwork etc etc and can put a company out of business. A pissed off or badly trained worker in the meat department not cycling stock or not putting stuff away in fridges on time leads to environmental health issues and fines. I could go on and on. For my sins I was manager with asda some years ago now. All the stores i worked in that has problems with stock losses or poor profitability it was never theft it always turned out to be staff not doing their jobs properly or being badly trained and not actually understanding what they were doing especially back door staff responsible for checking stuff in or or admin processing invoices. If staff are just working because they need the money they don't care - yes they all work because they need the money but of you enjoy going to work it makes all the difference. Crappy wages and constant bullying to perform is a recipe for long term failure. People aren't idiots treating them well is basic common sense as well as common decency. I think things go to the dogs when you talk about human resources -, a resource is something you use up and throw away when you are finished using it Treat them with contempt and that is what you get back. Lesson from history the have nots turn in to the f--- you. Who knows one day the shareholders might find themselves compelled to share their profits with those who actually make it for them.
It's always cheaper to keep staff than it is to keep recruiting - it's basic good management. Incidentally the asda and tesco here are just as bad except we seem less likely to put up with crap. People remember how they were treated and are quite capable of boycotting companies they disapprove of - just ask starbucks
The old idea of investing in your own workers is a good idea in times when there is plenty of work, I suppose it works the other way when workers are just happy to have any job, the employer can always get more staff eager to impress, if they don't come up to scratch there is always the queue at the job centre
It's a good idea at all times a discontented workforce under performs, goes slow, doesn't take enough care with paperwork etc etc and can put a company out of business. A pissed off or badly trained worker in the meat department not cycling stock or not putting stuff away in fridges on time leads to environmental health issues and fines. I could go on and on. For my sins I was manager with asda some years ago now. All the stores i worked in that has problems with stock losses or poor profitability it was never theft it always turned out to be staff not doing their jobs properly or being badly trained and not actually understanding what they were doing especially back door staff responsible for checking stuff in or or admin processing invoices. If staff are just working because they need the money they don't care - yes they all work because they need the money but of you enjoy going to work it makes all the difference. Crappy wages and constant bullying to perform is a recipe for long term failure. People aren't idiots treating them well is basic common sense as well as common decency. I think things go to the dogs when you talk about human resources -, a resource is something you use up and throw away when you are finished using it Treat them with contempt and that is what you get back. Lesson from history the have nots turn in to the f--- you. Who knows one day the shareholders might find themselves compelled to share their profits with those who actually make it for them.
It's always cheaper to keep staff than it is to keep recruiting - it's basic good management. Incidentally the asda and tesco here are just as bad except we seem less likely to put up with crap. People remember how they were treated and are quite capable of boycotting companies they disapprove of - just ask starbucks
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Bruv;1441181 wrote: In twelve weeks, on the busiest shopping day of the year, Walmart workers will mount what may be the biggest-ever US strike against the retail giant.
Sounds like fun. I love crossing picket lines. I had a great time when in California when grocery store union workers were locked out. At first they were all energetic, marching back and forth, waving signs. After three months, no pay, they were a sorry sight. Not so much fun on the picket line anymore.
If people walk off their job I would expect them to be fired.
I find it amazing, people with no skill or education expecting more money just because.
Want more money, acquire a skill, a trade. Something of value to offer more than your presence. Consider just how pathetic these whiners are as self service replaces them.
Sounds like fun. I love crossing picket lines. I had a great time when in California when grocery store union workers were locked out. At first they were all energetic, marching back and forth, waving signs. After three months, no pay, they were a sorry sight. Not so much fun on the picket line anymore.
If people walk off their job I would expect them to be fired.
I find it amazing, people with no skill or education expecting more money just because.
Want more money, acquire a skill, a trade. Something of value to offer more than your presence. Consider just how pathetic these whiners are as self service replaces them.
What happened to Kamala Harris' campaign?
She had the black vote all locked up.
She had the black vote all locked up.
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AnneBoleyn;1441241 wrote: Scab
I never worked for a grocery store.
b (1) : a worker who refuses to join a labor union (2) : a union member who refuses to strike or returns to work before a strike has ended (3) : a worker who accepts employment or replaces a union worker during a strike (4) : one who works for less than union wages or on nonunion terms
Scab
I can say if I needed a job I would have no problem taking the place of somebody who wasn't happy with his.
I never worked for a grocery store.
b (1) : a worker who refuses to join a labor union (2) : a union member who refuses to strike or returns to work before a strike has ended (3) : a worker who accepts employment or replaces a union worker during a strike (4) : one who works for less than union wages or on nonunion terms
Scab
I can say if I needed a job I would have no problem taking the place of somebody who wasn't happy with his.
What happened to Kamala Harris' campaign?
She had the black vote all locked up.
She had the black vote all locked up.
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tude dog;1441238 wrote:
If people walk off their job I would expect them to be fired.
I find it amazing, people with no skill or education expecting more money just because.
I reckon the Tude household creates refuse, sorry you call it trash, and some no account low life clears it on a regular basis.
I imagine your body wastes get flushed somewhere, either down a sewage system or syphoned away on a truck.
You local shopping mall has some guy pushing a broom ?
What value would you personally put on these jobs ?
If people walk off their job I would expect them to be fired.
I find it amazing, people with no skill or education expecting more money just because.
I reckon the Tude household creates refuse, sorry you call it trash, and some no account low life clears it on a regular basis.
I imagine your body wastes get flushed somewhere, either down a sewage system or syphoned away on a truck.
You local shopping mall has some guy pushing a broom ?
What value would you personally put on these jobs ?
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tude dog;1441243 wrote:
I can say if I needed a job I would have no problem taking the place of somebody who wasn't happy with his.
Even a grocery store ?
A grocery store that sells a high proportion of non American products ?
Your standard of living would drop.....don't you know ?
I can say if I needed a job I would have no problem taking the place of somebody who wasn't happy with his.
Even a grocery store ?
A grocery store that sells a high proportion of non American products ?
Your standard of living would drop.....don't you know ?
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gmc;1441215 wrote: posted by tude dog
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The question might perhaps be why should the opinion of those who invested in the company be the only oner that matters? Surely those who choose to work for them are also investing in the company with their time and labour, should they not then be able to negotiate how much that is worth and if doing so collectively makes that a fairer process why should they not do do - without them there is no walmart and no profit. Monopolies are not good for capitalism and if the lack of alternative employment forces down wages that isn't actually good for the economy. Walmart is one of the companies that chose not to invest in the US economy instead buying abroad eventually there will be no one left top buy what they are importing.
posted by fuzzywuzzy
So does that mean you believe people should touch their forelocks and be grateful for what the generous employer is willing to pay them?
No silly the opposite.
And Anne's right Tudes a scab!!!
Over the last 10 years the market has been an employers' market. It's happened before and has come back to bite them in the arse.
A Union as such you have to keep an eye because you have to know their end goal which may clash with other unions.
There is no such thing as a generous employer ...EVER!!!!
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The question might perhaps be why should the opinion of those who invested in the company be the only oner that matters? Surely those who choose to work for them are also investing in the company with their time and labour, should they not then be able to negotiate how much that is worth and if doing so collectively makes that a fairer process why should they not do do - without them there is no walmart and no profit. Monopolies are not good for capitalism and if the lack of alternative employment forces down wages that isn't actually good for the economy. Walmart is one of the companies that chose not to invest in the US economy instead buying abroad eventually there will be no one left top buy what they are importing.
posted by fuzzywuzzy
So does that mean you believe people should touch their forelocks and be grateful for what the generous employer is willing to pay them?
No silly the opposite.
And Anne's right Tudes a scab!!!
Over the last 10 years the market has been an employers' market. It's happened before and has come back to bite them in the arse.
A Union as such you have to keep an eye because you have to know their end goal which may clash with other unions.
There is no such thing as a generous employer ...EVER!!!!
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tude dog;1441238 wrote: Sounds like fun. I love crossing picket lines. I had a great time when in California when grocery store union workers were locked out. At first they were all energetic, marching back and forth, waving signs. After three months, no pay, they were a sorry sight. Not so much fun on the picket line anymore.
If people walk off their job I would expect them to be fired.
I find it amazing, people with no skill or education expecting more money just because.
Want more money, acquire a skill, a trade. Something of value to offer more than your presence. Consider just how pathetic these whiners are as self service replaces them.
What the hell do you mean "anymore"? A picket line is something of last resort it's never been fun.
So tell me something when construction workers go on strike because of company safety cut backs, you want to stand in front of them and tell them they have no skills?
You want to stand in front of a Nurse and tell him or her they are whiners when they are concerned about overwork, patient to staff ratios?
You want to tell a teacher you're happy to step into their shoes because they are whiners over pay rates?
REALLY? Wow!!! So you don't think people should stand up and speak out when their rates of pay are a little over poverty line rates? And you don't believe people should have the right to demand payment for their time. Your idiocy on this subject is is amazing.
So what do you sell ? Some people have nothing but themselves to sell and the worst thing in the world is a human being that believes they are only worth a pittance, whilst becoming rich on their misery .
If people walk off their job I would expect them to be fired.
I find it amazing, people with no skill or education expecting more money just because.
Want more money, acquire a skill, a trade. Something of value to offer more than your presence. Consider just how pathetic these whiners are as self service replaces them.
What the hell do you mean "anymore"? A picket line is something of last resort it's never been fun.
So tell me something when construction workers go on strike because of company safety cut backs, you want to stand in front of them and tell them they have no skills?
You want to stand in front of a Nurse and tell him or her they are whiners when they are concerned about overwork, patient to staff ratios?
You want to tell a teacher you're happy to step into their shoes because they are whiners over pay rates?
REALLY? Wow!!! So you don't think people should stand up and speak out when their rates of pay are a little over poverty line rates? And you don't believe people should have the right to demand payment for their time. Your idiocy on this subject is is amazing.
So what do you sell ? Some people have nothing but themselves to sell and the worst thing in the world is a human being that believes they are only worth a pittance, whilst becoming rich on their misery .
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Bruv;1441246 wrote: I reckon the Tude household creates refuse, sorry you call it trash, and some no account low life clears it on a regular basis.
You know something about the people who work for the local trash pickup company? I never personally met any of them and I see no reason to refer to them is an insulting manner.
I've tried to get a job with the county dump (separate from pick up). Work is work.
Bruv;1441246 wrote: I imagine your body wastes get flushed somewhere, either down a sewage system or syphoned away on a truck.
The guy who pumps our septic tank is a friend of mine but I still pay the same as everybody else. It is a fair price for that service.
Bruv;1441246 wrote: You local shopping mall has some guy pushing a broom ?
What value would you personally put on these jobs ?
Not up to me to put a value on somebody else's labor. I know when I did janitorial and other jobs requiring no real skill never received nor expected much pay.
You know something about the people who work for the local trash pickup company? I never personally met any of them and I see no reason to refer to them is an insulting manner.
I've tried to get a job with the county dump (separate from pick up). Work is work.
Bruv;1441246 wrote: I imagine your body wastes get flushed somewhere, either down a sewage system or syphoned away on a truck.
The guy who pumps our septic tank is a friend of mine but I still pay the same as everybody else. It is a fair price for that service.
Bruv;1441246 wrote: You local shopping mall has some guy pushing a broom ?
What value would you personally put on these jobs ?
Not up to me to put a value on somebody else's labor. I know when I did janitorial and other jobs requiring no real skill never received nor expected much pay.
What happened to Kamala Harris' campaign?
She had the black vote all locked up.
She had the black vote all locked up.
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No real skill? You musn't have done a very good job. Cleaners here (janitor) receive anywhere between $20.00 and $28.00 and hour. And so they should. yet a child care workier that has to be qualified and trained receives only $18.00 and hour. Working in a hospital laundry at the moment I receive $23.00 an hour. Casual rates suck!!!!!!
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Bruv;1441248 wrote: Even a grocery store ?
A grocery store that sells a high proportion of non American products ?
Your standard of living would drop.....don't you know ?
I wouldn't mind working for the local grocery store, even Walmart. Wouldn't hurt having a steady job, if I wanted it.
A grocery store that sells a high proportion of non American products ?
Your standard of living would drop.....don't you know ?
I wouldn't mind working for the local grocery store, even Walmart. Wouldn't hurt having a steady job, if I wanted it.
What happened to Kamala Harris' campaign?
She had the black vote all locked up.
She had the black vote all locked up.
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fuzzywuzzy;1441267 wrote: No real skill? You musn't have done a very good job. Cleaners here (janitor) receive anywhere between $20.00 and $28.00 and hour. And so they should. yet a child care workier that has to be qualified and trained receives only $18.00 and hour. Working in a hospital laundry at the moment I receive $23.00 an hour. Casual rates suck!!!!!!
Nothing wrong with the quality of my work. You Aussies must think awfully high of your janitors.
Nothing wrong with the quality of my work. You Aussies must think awfully high of your janitors.
What happened to Kamala Harris' campaign?
She had the black vote all locked up.
She had the black vote all locked up.
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gmc;1441215 wrote:
The question might perhaps be why should the opinion of those who invested in the company be the only oner that matters? Surely those who choose to work for them are also investing in the company with their time and labour, should they not then be able to negotiate how much that is worth and if doing so collectively makes that a fairer process why should they not do do
I once worked at a place which required union membership. Had to follow some of the most stupid rules.
Like the union contract repeated, labor does the labor, management manages. Pay is negotiated. I don't know that collective bargaining is more fair or not, but I would be pissed being forced out of my job because of union nonsense.
- without them there is no walmart and no profit. Monopolies are not good for capitalism and if the lack of alternative employment forces down wages that isn't actually good for the economy. Walmart is one of the companies that chose not to invest in the US economy instead buying abroad eventually there will be no one left top buy what they are importing.
Walmart employs people, that is good for the economy. People want inexpensive goods, that is why so much comes from China
So does that mean you believe people should touch their forelocks and be grateful for what the generous employer is willing to pay them?[/QUOTE]
The question might perhaps be why should the opinion of those who invested in the company be the only oner that matters? Surely those who choose to work for them are also investing in the company with their time and labour, should they not then be able to negotiate how much that is worth and if doing so collectively makes that a fairer process why should they not do do
I once worked at a place which required union membership. Had to follow some of the most stupid rules.
Like the union contract repeated, labor does the labor, management manages. Pay is negotiated. I don't know that collective bargaining is more fair or not, but I would be pissed being forced out of my job because of union nonsense.
- without them there is no walmart and no profit. Monopolies are not good for capitalism and if the lack of alternative employment forces down wages that isn't actually good for the economy. Walmart is one of the companies that chose not to invest in the US economy instead buying abroad eventually there will be no one left top buy what they are importing.
Walmart employs people, that is good for the economy. People want inexpensive goods, that is why so much comes from China
So does that mean you believe people should touch their forelocks and be grateful for what the generous employer is willing to pay them?[/QUOTE]
What happened to Kamala Harris' campaign?
She had the black vote all locked up.
She had the black vote all locked up.
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tude dog;1441269 wrote: Nothing wrong with the quality of my work. You Aussies must think awfully high of your janitors.
Yes. But they are slowly bringing in the rates Americans are more accustomed to. Even tried to begin tipping as well ........The toffs will leave tips but most people are offended by it . I certainly am. Unions here didn't fight for all our working rights just to have them all stripped away by some greedy yank. But they will still try .
Yes. But they are slowly bringing in the rates Americans are more accustomed to. Even tried to begin tipping as well ........The toffs will leave tips but most people are offended by it . I certainly am. Unions here didn't fight for all our working rights just to have them all stripped away by some greedy yank. But they will still try .
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tude dog;1441268 wrote: I wouldn't mind working for the local grocery store, even Walmart. Wouldn't hurt having a steady job, if I wanted it.
Lets hope the unions can get a living wage before you do..............wouldn't want to change your dyed in the wool attitude to *cough* the evils of socialism.
Funny enough while the Waltons are scouring socialist China for manufacturing bargains, and incidently raising unemployment in their own backyard, enabling them to pay their workers less.......because of the market forces involved................
One wonders how people such as the Tude arrive at the way they think................living in a bubble of their own creation.......and with the help of their capitalist puppet masters pulling all the strings.
Lets hope the unions can get a living wage before you do..............wouldn't want to change your dyed in the wool attitude to *cough* the evils of socialism.
Funny enough while the Waltons are scouring socialist China for manufacturing bargains, and incidently raising unemployment in their own backyard, enabling them to pay their workers less.......because of the market forces involved................
One wonders how people such as the Tude arrive at the way they think................living in a bubble of their own creation.......and with the help of their capitalist puppet masters pulling all the strings.
I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth
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tude dog;1441271 wrote: I once worked at a place which required union membership. Had to follow some of the most stupid rules.
Like the union contract repeated, labor does the labor, management manages. Pay is negotiated. I don't know that collective bargaining is more fair or not, but I would be pissed being forced out of my job because of union nonsense.
Walmart employs people, that is good for the economy. People want inexpensive goods, that is why so much comes from China
So does that mean you believe people should touch their forelocks and be grateful for what the generous employer is willing to pay them?JFC! You're so removed from reality.
Like the union contract repeated, labor does the labor, management manages. Pay is negotiated. I don't know that collective bargaining is more fair or not, but I would be pissed being forced out of my job because of union nonsense.
Walmart employs people, that is good for the economy. People want inexpensive goods, that is why so much comes from China
So does that mean you believe people should touch their forelocks and be grateful for what the generous employer is willing to pay them?JFC! You're so removed from reality.
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Bruv;1441285 wrote: Lets hope the unions can get a living wage before you do..............wouldn't want to change your dyed in the wool attitude to *cough* the evils of socialism.
I earn a living wage. I have to work hard for it and it's not steady, but we don't need much. I was just saying how easy it would be to work for the local grocery store or Walmart.
Bruv;1441285 wrote: Funny enough while the Waltons are scouring socialist China for manufacturing bargains, and incidently raising unemployment in their own backyard, enabling them to pay their workers less.......because of the market forces involved................
Uh, somehow, I suspect Walmart is not the cause of unemployment.
Bruv;1441285 wrote: One wonders how people such as the Tude arrive at the way they think................living in a bubble of their own creation.......and with the help of their capitalist puppet masters pulling all the strings.
:yh_rotfl
I earn a living wage. I have to work hard for it and it's not steady, but we don't need much. I was just saying how easy it would be to work for the local grocery store or Walmart.
Bruv;1441285 wrote: Funny enough while the Waltons are scouring socialist China for manufacturing bargains, and incidently raising unemployment in their own backyard, enabling them to pay their workers less.......because of the market forces involved................
Uh, somehow, I suspect Walmart is not the cause of unemployment.
Bruv;1441285 wrote: One wonders how people such as the Tude arrive at the way they think................living in a bubble of their own creation.......and with the help of their capitalist puppet masters pulling all the strings.
:yh_rotfl
What happened to Kamala Harris' campaign?
She had the black vote all locked up.
She had the black vote all locked up.
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tude dog;1441315 wrote:
Uh, somehow, I suspect Walmart is not the cause of unemployment.
I don't think they managed it all on their own........but if there are a few like them and a few like you.......it wouldn't take too much imagination to see how it happened.
:yh_rotfl
You can laugh........I hear Nero fiddled while Rome burnt.
That comment made me think of Marie-Antoinette, sort of reminds me of you, her reality was when told the poor people had no bread..... her advice "Let them eat cake"
Same bubble you live in.....
Uh, somehow, I suspect Walmart is not the cause of unemployment.
I don't think they managed it all on their own........but if there are a few like them and a few like you.......it wouldn't take too much imagination to see how it happened.
:yh_rotfl
You can laugh........I hear Nero fiddled while Rome burnt.
That comment made me think of Marie-Antoinette, sort of reminds me of you, her reality was when told the poor people had no bread..... her advice "Let them eat cake"
Same bubble you live in.....
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Ummm not cake ........ brioche.......it was cheaper than bread and there is no evidence of her saying this at all but a queen before her.
Yes I do watch QI.:wah:
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Bruv;1441322 wrote: I don't think they managed it all on their own........but if there are a few like them and a few like you.......it wouldn't take too much imagination to see how it happened.
Sure, if I asked you would be more than willing to explain it all.
Bruv;1441322 wrote: You can laugh........I hear Nero fiddled while Rome burnt.
I cry in private as I watch my nation go down in silence.
Bruv;1441322 wrote: That comment made me think of Marie-Antoinette, sort of reminds me of you, her reality was when told the poor people had no bread..... her advice "Let them eat cake"
Same bubble you live in.....
Again with the bubble.
Sure, if I asked you would be more than willing to explain it all.
Bruv;1441322 wrote: You can laugh........I hear Nero fiddled while Rome burnt.
I cry in private as I watch my nation go down in silence.
Bruv;1441322 wrote: That comment made me think of Marie-Antoinette, sort of reminds me of you, her reality was when told the poor people had no bread..... her advice "Let them eat cake"
Same bubble you live in.....
Again with the bubble.
What happened to Kamala Harris' campaign?
She had the black vote all locked up.
She had the black vote all locked up.
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posted by tudedog
Uh, somehow, I suspect Walmart is not the cause of unemployment.
Not on it's own, but if they had been buying all that inventory from American manufacturers and farmers who knows how big a difference it would have made. Sometimes people get hung up on the price of something and forget about value. WSome of the supermarkets herte are making a point of using home grown produce, meat, apples potatoes etc instead of importing cheaper stuff from abroad. Why import apples when our own producers are going out of business? It's partly in response to consumer demand and also response to some recent contamination cases in our food chain. it does seem to be helping I see it as paying a bit more and getting better value for my money.
Uh, somehow, I suspect Walmart is not the cause of unemployment.
Not on it's own, but if they had been buying all that inventory from American manufacturers and farmers who knows how big a difference it would have made. Sometimes people get hung up on the price of something and forget about value. WSome of the supermarkets herte are making a point of using home grown produce, meat, apples potatoes etc instead of importing cheaper stuff from abroad. Why import apples when our own producers are going out of business? It's partly in response to consumer demand and also response to some recent contamination cases in our food chain. it does seem to be helping I see it as paying a bit more and getting better value for my money.
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tude dog;1441347 wrote: Sure, if I asked you would be more than willing to explain it all. gmc is far better at explaining things than me and his post has gone a long way to do that
I cry in private as I watch my nation go down in silence.
But you are happy enough to except that the bosses and the system know best.........even though it is clear they are shafting you big time.Walmart is the classic successful business, who from off the top of my head was formed in the sixties, has made 4 family members billionaires, but who's employees are struggling to survive...........and they source the goods from outside the USA.........crazy crazy crazy. Screwing everybody over except their shareholders , making the rich richer and the poor poorer......and killing the countries manufacturing.
Again with the bubble.
It's not only you unfortunately.
I cry in private as I watch my nation go down in silence.
But you are happy enough to except that the bosses and the system know best.........even though it is clear they are shafting you big time.Walmart is the classic successful business, who from off the top of my head was formed in the sixties, has made 4 family members billionaires, but who's employees are struggling to survive...........and they source the goods from outside the USA.........crazy crazy crazy. Screwing everybody over except their shareholders , making the rich richer and the poor poorer......and killing the countries manufacturing.
Again with the bubble.
It's not only you unfortunately.
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Sorry, but all three of you are shootin' from the hip and not a one of you know what you're aimin' at.
That had to be said because this thread has become agonizing to read.
I'm sure I've offended all three of you. Sorry, but you shouldn't be pontificating on subjects you have no business expounding on. Not one of you have offered even the slightest valid reasoning or justification for anything you've posted. It's pitiful. .
That had to be said because this thread has become agonizing to read.
I'm sure I've offended all three of you. Sorry, but you shouldn't be pontificating on subjects you have no business expounding on. Not one of you have offered even the slightest valid reasoning or justification for anything you've posted. It's pitiful. .
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Ahso!;1441413 wrote: Sorry, but all three of you are shootin' from the hip and not a one of you know what you're aimin' at.
That had to be said because this thread has become agonizing to read.
I'm sure I've offended all three of you. Sorry, but you shouldn't be pontificating on subjects you have no business expounding on. Not one of you have offered even the slightest valid reasoning or justification for anything you've posted. It's pitiful. .
christ you post like a bot.
That had to be said because this thread has become agonizing to read.
I'm sure I've offended all three of you. Sorry, but you shouldn't be pontificating on subjects you have no business expounding on. Not one of you have offered even the slightest valid reasoning or justification for anything you've posted. It's pitiful. .
christ you post like a bot.
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Ahso!;1441413 wrote: Sorry, but all three of you are shootin' from the hip and not a one of you know what you're aimin' at.
That had to be said because this thread has become agonizing to read.
I'm sure I've offended all three of you. Sorry, but you shouldn't be pontificating on subjects you have no business expounding on. Not one of you have offered even the slightest valid reasoning or justification for anything you've posted. It's pitiful. .
Is this meant to add to the thread?
If it is.... some 'expounding' is required..........only then will my offence or lack of offence be known.
When you say 'justification' ......do you mean 'links'?
If it is really that agonising............don't read it.........but if you must add to the topic, stop being so bloody cryptic, because you are coming across as a right clever dick who believes himself far too clever to explain the bleeding obvious to us low life knobs.
That had to be said because this thread has become agonizing to read.
I'm sure I've offended all three of you. Sorry, but you shouldn't be pontificating on subjects you have no business expounding on. Not one of you have offered even the slightest valid reasoning or justification for anything you've posted. It's pitiful. .
Is this meant to add to the thread?
If it is.... some 'expounding' is required..........only then will my offence or lack of offence be known.
When you say 'justification' ......do you mean 'links'?
If it is really that agonising............don't read it.........but if you must add to the topic, stop being so bloody cryptic, because you are coming across as a right clever dick who believes himself far too clever to explain the bleeding obvious to us low life knobs.
I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth