Well take another item off my bucket list.
Islamist fighters in Mali's city of Timbuktu destroyed a library containing historic manuscripts before they fled advancing French and Malian forces, the town's mayor said.
http://www.northjersey.com/news/interna ... Mali_.html
Library of Timbuktu destroyed
Library of Timbuktu destroyed
The home of the soul is the Open Road.
- DH Lawrence
- DH Lawrence
Library of Timbuktu destroyed
There's nothing peculiarly islamic in that kind of destruction. The puritans (read christian fundamentalists) did much the same kind of thing to catholic churches during the many religious wars - come to that the early Christian church destroyed or hijacked all the old pagan religious sites and festivals as well as plagiarising many of the rituals. One of the main objection many protestant sects have to Catholicism is the worship of craven images in the form of icons, images of saints - goes against the second commandment.
The same reason these particular fundamentalists destroyed these historic mausoleums and mosques - idolatry.
Same old same old.
The same reason these particular fundamentalists destroyed these historic mausoleums and mosques - idolatry.
Same old same old.
Library of Timbuktu destroyed
gmc;1418061 wrote: There's nothing peculiarly islamic in that kind of destruction. The puritans (read christian fundamentalists) did much the same kind of thing to catholic churches during the many religious wars - come to that the early Christian church destroyed or hijacked all the old pagan religious sites and festivals as well as plagiarising many of the rituals. One of the main objection many protestant sects have to Catholicism is the worship of craven images in the form of icons, images of saints - goes against the second commandment.
The same reason these particular fundamentalists destroyed these historic mausoleums and mosques - idolatry.
Same old same old.
True enough.
I grow increasingly impatient with extremism, of any kind.
The same reason these particular fundamentalists destroyed these historic mausoleums and mosques - idolatry.
Same old same old.
True enough.
I grow increasingly impatient with extremism, of any kind.
The home of the soul is the Open Road.
- DH Lawrence
- DH Lawrence
Library of Timbuktu destroyed
gmc;1418061 wrote: There's nothing peculiarly islamic in that kind of destruction. The puritans (read christian fundamentalists) did much the same kind of thing to catholic churches during the many religious wars - come to that the early Christian church destroyed or hijacked all the old pagan religious sites and festivals as well as plagiarising many of the rituals. One of the main objection many protestant sects have to Catholicism is the worship of craven images in the form of icons, images of saints - goes against the second commandment.
The same reason these particular fundamentalists destroyed these historic mausoleums and mosques - idolatry.
Same old same old.
True, it's been going on since at least the destruction of the Library at Alexandria but it's deplorable all the same.
The same reason these particular fundamentalists destroyed these historic mausoleums and mosques - idolatry.
Same old same old.
True, it's been going on since at least the destruction of the Library at Alexandria but it's deplorable all the same.
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Library of Timbuktu destroyed
Oh, that is sad to destroy it.
Library of Timbuktu destroyed
Bryn Mawr;1418063 wrote: True, it's been going on since at least the destruction of the Library at Alexandria but it's deplorable all the same.
In fairness that wasn't destroyed for religious reasons it was apparently accidental.
In fairness that wasn't destroyed for religious reasons it was apparently accidental.
Library of Timbuktu destroyed
Yeah, the extremists were "accidentally" waging war in that area, and when they "accidentally" discharged weapons and bombs the library "accidentally" caught fire. When you are doing something dangerous and something bad happens, that's no accident.
What a loss to mankind. I hope everything (or the information at least) has been digitized so that it's not lost completely. We now have a means for storing information up to 100 million years.
Hitachi unveils quartz-based storage, data may last 100 million years - TechSpot
What a loss to mankind. I hope everything (or the information at least) has been digitized so that it's not lost completely. We now have a means for storing information up to 100 million years.
Hitachi unveils quartz-based storage, data may last 100 million years - TechSpot
Library of Timbuktu destroyed
There is no excuse for this deliberate destruction. It does not alleviate the wrong by saying "so and so back when did this or that".
Shame of this goes to not only those who did it, but also their cause.
Shame of this goes to not only those who did it, but also their cause.
What happened to Kamala Harris' campaign?
She had the black vote all locked up.
She had the black vote all locked up.
Library of Timbuktu destroyed
Saint_;1418096 wrote: Yeah, the extremists were "accidentally" waging war in that area, and when they "accidentally" discharged weapons and bombs the library "accidentally" caught fire. When you are doing something dangerous and something bad happens, that's no accident.
What a loss to mankind. I hope everything (or the information at least) has been digitized so that it's not lost completely. We now have a means for storing information up to 100 million years.
Hitachi unveils quartz-based storage, data may last 100 million years - TechSpot
All I meant was it was a bad example to pick. The library in Alexandria was actually destroyed by accident by jullius caesar in the course of a battle it was inadvertently set on fire.
Christians extremists are every bit as good at book burning and destroying religious sites as any muslim in the past they have even burned copies of the bible because they were the wrong version and were at it even before islam even existed. They were destroying mosques this is sectarian as well as racial and economic warfare about the worst of all kinds of warfare.
What a loss to mankind. I hope everything (or the information at least) has been digitized so that it's not lost completely. We now have a means for storing information up to 100 million years.
Hitachi unveils quartz-based storage, data may last 100 million years - TechSpot
All I meant was it was a bad example to pick. The library in Alexandria was actually destroyed by accident by jullius caesar in the course of a battle it was inadvertently set on fire.
Christians extremists are every bit as good at book burning and destroying religious sites as any muslim in the past they have even burned copies of the bible because they were the wrong version and were at it even before islam even existed. They were destroying mosques this is sectarian as well as racial and economic warfare about the worst of all kinds of warfare.
Library of Timbuktu destroyed
Why do you want to make this about religion, GMC?
Hooligans are hooligans. A bunch of uneducated nit-wits on a power trip decide what they like and what they have no use for, and destroy one of the finest collections of ancient writings in the entire continent.
It was a tragedy. I would not care what religion these people profess.
Hooligans are hooligans. A bunch of uneducated nit-wits on a power trip decide what they like and what they have no use for, and destroy one of the finest collections of ancient writings in the entire continent.
It was a tragedy. I would not care what religion these people profess.
The home of the soul is the Open Road.
- DH Lawrence
- DH Lawrence
Library of Timbuktu destroyed
LarsMac;1418153 wrote: Why do you want to make this about religion, GMC?
Hooligans are hooligans. A bunch of uneducated nit-wits on a power trip decide what they like and what they have no use for, and destroy one of the finest collections of ancient writings in the entire continent.
It was a tragedy. I would not care what religion these people profess.
It is religious, sunni and shia attack each others mosques - in Iraq they are blowing each other up. The mosques destroyed by sunni extremists were shia. To pretend the destruction of religious sites has nothing to do with religion is a bit disingenuous.
It's like saying an orange band playing outside a catholic cathedral on the 12 of July in belfast is sheer coincidence.
Hooligans are hooligans. A bunch of uneducated nit-wits on a power trip decide what they like and what they have no use for, and destroy one of the finest collections of ancient writings in the entire continent.
It was a tragedy. I would not care what religion these people profess.
It is religious, sunni and shia attack each others mosques - in Iraq they are blowing each other up. The mosques destroyed by sunni extremists were shia. To pretend the destruction of religious sites has nothing to do with religion is a bit disingenuous.
It's like saying an orange band playing outside a catholic cathedral on the 12 of July in belfast is sheer coincidence.
Library of Timbuktu destroyed
Hooligans hiding under a banner are still just hooligans.
The home of the soul is the Open Road.
- DH Lawrence
- DH Lawrence
Library of Timbuktu destroyed
LarsMac;1418209 wrote: Hooligans hiding under a banner are still just hooligans.
When does a hooligan become a terrorist or a freedom fighter? It's a bit more than hooliganism when a sunni blows himself up iin a shia mosqu or a shia sets a car bomb outside a sunni mosque or islamic hooligans destroy a library containing texts for an opposing sect. It's not something unique to islamic fundamentalists - maybe it's a feature of monotheism but we could be here all night and still not entirely agree with each other about the matter. I'd agree it is hooliganism but they're not just simply hooligans imo.
When does a hooligan become a terrorist or a freedom fighter? It's a bit more than hooliganism when a sunni blows himself up iin a shia mosqu or a shia sets a car bomb outside a sunni mosque or islamic hooligans destroy a library containing texts for an opposing sect. It's not something unique to islamic fundamentalists - maybe it's a feature of monotheism but we could be here all night and still not entirely agree with each other about the matter. I'd agree it is hooliganism but they're not just simply hooligans imo.
Library of Timbuktu destroyed
gmc;1418227 wrote: When does a hooligan become a terrorist or a freedom fighter? It's a bit more than hooliganism when a sunni blows himself up iin a shia mosqu or a shia sets a car bomb outside a sunni mosque or islamic hooligans destroy a library containing texts for an opposing sect. It's not something unique to islamic fundamentalists - maybe it's a feature of monotheism but we could be here all night and still not entirely agree with each other about the matter. I'd agree it is hooliganism but they're not just simply hooligans imo.
As I recall, in the days before the press and governments tried to reserve the term "terrorist" for Muslims, the deliniation was the intent of the actions. A terrorist was one who blew something up to cause fear and uncertainty in a population with which he/she disagreed. A freedom fighter was one who did the same thing, but whose goals were aligned with the press/government reporting it. A hooligan was one who blew something up because it would be "cool" and get posted to youtube.
As I recall, in the days before the press and governments tried to reserve the term "terrorist" for Muslims, the deliniation was the intent of the actions. A terrorist was one who blew something up to cause fear and uncertainty in a population with which he/she disagreed. A freedom fighter was one who did the same thing, but whose goals were aligned with the press/government reporting it. A hooligan was one who blew something up because it would be "cool" and get posted to youtube.
Library of Timbuktu destroyed
Wandrin;1418235 wrote: As I recall, in the days before the press and governments tried to reserve the term "terrorist" for Muslims, the deliniation was the intent of the actions. A terrorist was one who blew something up to cause fear and uncertainty in a population with which he/she disagreed. A freedom fighter was one who did the same thing, but whose goals were aligned with the press/government reporting it. A hooligan was one who blew something up because it would be "cool" and get posted to youtube.
One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist.
One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist.
The home of the soul is the Open Road.
- DH Lawrence
- DH Lawrence
Library of Timbuktu destroyed
gmc;1418093 wrote: In fairness that wasn't destroyed for religious reasons it was apparently accidental.
Recent finds suggest otherwise but it's certainly not proven.
Recent finds suggest otherwise but it's certainly not proven.
Library of Timbuktu destroyed
Bryn Mawr;1418245 wrote: Recent finds suggest otherwise but it's certainly not proven.
Given the level of cultural destruction the romans inflicted on everybody they conquered I wouldn't really be surprised either way.
Given the level of cultural destruction the romans inflicted on everybody they conquered I wouldn't really be surprised either way.