The Most Disgusting Woman In Britain...

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:50 pm

Veterans line up to humiliate Wendy Lewis who urinated on war memorial | Mail Online

Whilst I had the dubious please of a Guard of Honour during my trial by War Veterans from the Royal British Legion, this woman had a guard of Dis-Honour.

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:53 pm

What is it with these people? I just can't find the words...

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:56 pm

Loathsome detestable creature

binbag · Post by **binbag** » Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:58 pm

oscar;1328641 wrote: Veterans line up to humiliate Wendy Lewis who urinated on war memorial | Mail Online

Whilst I had the dubious please of a Guard of Honour during my trial by War Veterans from the Royal British Legion, this woman had a guard of Dis-Honour.
Truly appalling.

That's the second individual this year, that I know of, who's been charged with a similar offence. The first one was male, sorry I can't remember the memorial he desecrated, some one will surely remember.

That appalling act surely sums up today's modern society.

Apart from a spiritual change, I fear another war, will be the only action that will return this country's respect towards others, past and present, when it's all over.

Very sad.

binbag.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:06 pm

binbag;1328656 wrote: Truly appalling.

That's the second individual this year, that I know of, who's been charged with a similar offence. The first one was male, sorry I can't remember the memorial he desecrated, some one will surely remember.

That appalling act surely sums up today's modern society.

Apart from a spiritual change, I fear another war, will be the only action that will return this country's respect towards others, past and present, when it's all over.

Very sad.

binbag.
It was In Liecester Binbag... A male student.

I have a small campaign myself for War memorials to be taken out of the hands of local councils and sole responsibility given to the British Legion.... Only then can we see far more prosecutions.

binbag · Post by **binbag** » Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:28 pm

oscar;1328659 wrote: It was In Liecester Binbag... A male student.

I have a small campaign myself for War memorials to be taken out of the hands of local councils and sole responsibility given to the British Legion.... Only then can we see far more prosecutions.I remember now, thank you oscar.

Best of good wishes for your campaign. Terrible, that it has come to that.

ButterflyPrincess · Post by **ButterflyPrincess** » Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:49 pm

I am at a loss for words. =[

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:14 am

What do you think of the british legion accepting the donation from Tony Blair of the profits from his book?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:23 am

gmc;1328709 wrote: What do you think of the british legion accepting the donation from Tony Blair of the profits from his book?
Who me?

theia · Post by **theia** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:45 am

gmc;1328709 wrote: What do you think of the british legion accepting the donation from Tony Blair of the profits from his book?

Whatever Tony Blair's intention was in donating the profits from his book, I think the British Legion are right in accepting it.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:50 am

oscar;1328712 wrote: Who me?

Yes you and anyone else who has an opinion. I wish they hadn't it would have been a most effective comment on the idiotic policies that got us into this mess. I wonder how the soldiers condemned to life as a cripple feel about it or those who have buried their sons think.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:04 am

gmc;1328716 wrote: Yes you and anyone else who has an opinion. I wish they hadn't it would have been a most effective comment on the idiotic policies that got us into this mess. I wonder how the soldiers condemned to life as a cripple feel about it or those who have buried their sons think.

Whilst it may sound commendable, I do not agree with it.

Had the BL told him where to shove It,... It would have been a huge statement to the Country.

As for him even offering It.... We are supposed to be humbled by his generosity are we? It Is blood money.

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:17 am

gmc;1328709 wrote: What do you think of the british legion accepting the donation from Tony Blair of the profits from his book?

I don't think the British Legion are in a position to refuse at the moment.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:39 am

OpenMind;1328725 wrote: I don't think the British Legion are in a position to refuse at the moment.

Arguably that may have lot to do with Tony Blair keeping the reason for their existence alive.

Homepage - Welcome to The Royal British Legion - Caring and campaigning for the serving and ex-Service community - The Royal British Legion

Tony Blair supports Legion

The Royal British Legion is pleased to announce that Tony Blair will be donating all of the proceeds from his forthcoming memoirs to the Legion's Battle Back Challenge Centre.

This centre will provide state-of-the-art rehabilitation services for seriously injured Service personnel.

I'm sorry but I just find it sickening. This prosthetic was bought for you by Tony Blair.

theia · Post by **theia** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:40 am

gmc;1328716 wrote: Yes you and anyone else who has an opinion. I wish they hadn't it would have been a most effective comment on the idiotic policies that got us into this mess. I wonder how the soldiers condemned to life as a cripple feel about it or those who have buried their sons think.

I would imagine that those who will benefit directly from the donation probably won't agree.

Post by **spot** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:07 am

To be honest, while Wendy Lewis doubtless regrets her drunken binge ending in such an insalubrious way, I find the ritual humiliation by an arranged posse of elderly thugs hurling verbal abuse at her far less tolerable. If anyone should go home with an enduring sense of shame it's them more than her. Unlike the drunken relieving of her bladder the bullying was premeditated, deliberately at the inside edge of legality and obscene. I have far less sympathy for them than I have for the woman who felt so intimidated that she fled the court in reaction to the abuse. I'm not much impressed by the tabloid slanting of the story either.

It's occasions like this which leave me with about as much sympathy for the British Legion as I have for Ulster Unionism and, believe me, that's not a lot of sympathy.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:10 am

theia;1328747 wrote: I would imagine that those who will benefit directly from the donation probably won't agree.

That may well be, I am merely expressing my opinion.

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:52 am

spot;1328754 wrote: To be honest, while Wendy Lewis doubtless regrets her drunken binge ending in such an insalubrious way, I find the ritual humiliation by an arranged posse of elderly thugs hurling verbal abuse at her far less tolerable. If anyone should go home with an enduring sense of shame it's them more than her. Unlike the drunken relieving of her bladder the bullying was premeditated, deliberately at the inside edge of legality and obscene. I have far less sympathy for them than I have for the woman who felt so intimidated that she fled the court in reaction to the abuse. I'm not much impressed by the tabloid slanting of the story either.

It's occasions like this which leave me with about as much sympathy for the British Legion as I have for Ulster Unionism and, believe me, that's not a lot of sympathy.

I disagree strongly. I sense Wendy Lewis abuses her fellow man as well as her liver on a regular basis. This Little Britain caricature will get no pity from me. She is a self made, self perpetuating, loathsome creature who frankly cant expect anything other than the ridicule she has invited. I saw no thuggery on the part of the vets and given the chance I would have pushed the wheelchairs to the doors of the court myself. I hope she was suitably embarrased. She deserved to be. Drunk or otherwise

Post by **spot** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:54 am

That's a perfectly reasonable position, mate. I happen not to share it.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:12 am

spot;1328754 wrote: To be honest, while Wendy Lewis doubtless regrets her drunken binge ending in such an insalubrious way, I find the ritual humiliation by an arranged posse of elderly thugs hurling verbal abuse at her far less tolerable. If anyone should go home with an enduring sense of shame it's them more than her. Unlike the drunken relieving of her bladder the bullying was premeditated, deliberately at the inside edge of legality and obscene. I have far less sympathy for them than I have for the woman who felt so intimidated that she fled the court in reaction to the abuse. I'm not much impressed by the tabloid slanting of the story either.

It's occasions like this which leave me with about as much sympathy for the British Legion as I have for Ulster Unionism and, believe me, that's not a lot of sympathy.
Elderly Thugs? :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

It Is precisely attitudes like yours produce scum parents who raise scum yobs who have no regard what-so-ever for a War memorial.

A well documented piece of evidence under oath In a well publiced trial by many media outlets:

" It ( The War memorial ) means nothing to me... I guess It Is for some people who died"

theia · Post by **theia** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:13 am

gmc;1328756 wrote: That may well be, I am merely expressing my opinion.

Merely my musings too, gmc

Saint_ · Post by **Saint_** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:35 am

As a veteran, I feel I have earned my right to have an opinion about war and the service. Some people who have never served simply don't understand the commitment and duty (or the honor for that matter.) obviously, from this thread, most of you do understand...

Oh crap, I can't really seem to put what I feel into words on this matter. It's as if that woman urinated on the graves of all the souls who ever died for their country and ideals.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:45 am

Saint_;1328774 wrote: As a veteran, I feel I have earned my right to have an opinion about war and the service. Some people who have never served simply don't understand the commitment and duty (or the honor for that matter.) obviously, from this thread, most of you do understand...

Oh crap, I can't really seem to put what I feel into words on this matter. It's as if that woman urinated on the graves of all the souls who ever died for their country and ideals.

Well said Saint... Only some do not get do they?

Post by **spot** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:19 pm

oscar;1328766 wrote: It Is precisely attitudes like yours produce scum parents who raise scum yobs who have no regard what-so-ever for a War memorial.It's as well you've never been exposed to my children. Not all of us have to live the rest of their life with a killer in the family.

Given the choice between demolishing the memorial or preserving poor Wendy Lewis from the ritual humiliation she's been exposed to I'd tear down the stonework every time. The one's inanimate, the other's human. A war memorial can't become society's scapegoat.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:32 pm

spot;1328785 wrote: It's as well you've never been exposed to my children. Not all of us have to live the rest of their life with a killer in the family.

Given the choice between demolishing the memorial or preserving poor Wendy Lewis from the ritual humiliation she's been exposed to I'd tear down the stonework every time. The one's inanimate, the other's human. A war memorial can't become society's scapegoat. First of all you venomous snake... I did not raise my nephew... In Fact.. In the all the times he stayed with me, he was a different lad. But then, having a killer In the family is some-thing WE deal with on a daily basis and It is due to people like you that make me join the Bleeding Liberal Hearts to lament how this rotten society failed him.... A society that YOU are part of. YOU voted for a corrupt Government who systematically stripped parents and schools of all rights to discipline their children.

You would tear down the monument that Is a symbol of sacrifices made by mainly conscripts?... Good heavens... You are more contemtable than i first believed.

What's up Spot? Is It a little quiet on the other side of the pond? :yh_rotfl

Saint_ · Post by **Saint_** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:43 pm

spot;1328785 wrote: Not all of us have to live the rest of their life with a killer in the family.

Spot, you need to read "The Charge of the Light Brigade." Alfred Lord Tennyson didn't say to honor war, or to honor dying for your country. He said to honor the bravery, spirit, honor, and nobility it takes to serve. Regardless of whether you believe in war, you should surely honor the personal courage of your fellow men and women.

I don't like war either, yet I still honor the men and women who gave all. It was their choice and a brave one.

When can their glory fade?

O the wild charge they made!

All the world wondered.

Honor the charge they made,

Honor the Light Brigade,

Noble six hundred.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:52 pm

Saint_;1328789 wrote: Spot, you need to read "The Charge of the Light Brigade." Alfred Lord Tennyson didn't say to honor war, or to honor dying for your country. He said to honor the bravery, spirit, honor, and nobility it takes to serve. Regardless of whether you believe in war, you should surely honor the personal courage of your fellow men and women.

I don't like war either, yet I still honor the men and women who gave all. It was their choice and a brave one.

When can their glory fade?

O the wild charge they made!

All the world wondered.

Honor the charge they made,

Honor the Light Brigade,

Noble six hundred. Saint... Spot was not refering to troops killing the enemy... It was what he thought, a sly dig at me due to my 17 year old nephew being convicted of Manslaughter last month.

Your fine post is wasted on Spot.

Saint_ · Post by **Saint_** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:57 pm

Oh, my mistake, I thought someone in your family was a serviceman or servicewoman, all of which I'm sure spot considers "killers." Ouch. Now that I know he was directing a personal comment at an extremely sore spot of yours his views and tactics are even more objectionable to me. Seems like not much changes, eh, Spot? I recall that you and I went around personally years ago as well.

That's a shame because you are easily intelligent enough to make your points without personal attacks.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:05 pm

Saint_;1328791 wrote: Oh, my mistake, I thought someone in your family was a serviceman or servicewoman, all of which I'm sure spot considers "killers." Ouch. Now that I know he was directing a personal comment at an extremely sore spot of yours his views and tactics are even more objectionable to me. Seems like not much changes, eh, Spot? I recall that you and I went around personally years ago as well.

That's a shame because you are easily intelligent enough to make your points without personal attacks. Thank You Saint, but It Is not a sore point with me. My nephew was 16 years old old at the time and he was charged with murder. He was acquited of murder but found guilty of Manslaughter due to the fact he did not Intend killing any-one that night.

It does not bother me In the slightest that Spot has chosen this thread In which to make such reptilian jibes. You have to have some empathy for Spot here Saint... Since he became a moderator on 24 hour forums, the membership has dropped to... errr 2 I believe.... He needs to get his kicks some-where. :wah:

Saint_ · Post by **Saint_** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:07 pm

oscar;1328793 wrote: reptilian jibes.

lol. Now that's some good writing!

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:21 pm

You know, I know a few drunks. I know a few alcoholics. I even know a couple of former heroin addicts. I dont recall any of them at any stage of their lives debasing themselves to such a level. Its not the alcohol, its the nature in which you choose to live your life. We are all responsible for our lives and actions and reap what we sow. Excesses in life are no excuse. I find her actions reprehensible. She shows no remorse and can expect no respect in return.

I choose the monument. Every time

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:26 pm

Snowfire;1328796 wrote: .....

I choose the monument. Every time

It represents everything she isn't

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:33 pm

Snowfire;1328797 wrote: It represents everything she isn't Well said Doubtfire... Well said.

On a jocular note... You have to feel sorry for the dishelved guy In the middle of a blow job and the Old Bill turn up.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:41 pm

Saint_;1328789 wrote: Spot, you need to read "The Charge of the Light Brigade." Alfred Lord Tennyson didn't say to honor war, or to honor dying for your country. He said to honor the bravery, spirit, honor, and nobility it takes to serve. Regardless of whether you believe in war, you should surely honor the personal courage of your fellow men and women.

I don't like war either, yet I still honor the men and women who gave all. It was their choice and a brave one.

When can their glory fade?

O the wild charge they made!

All the world wondered.

Honor the charge they made,

Honor the Light Brigade,

Noble six hundred.

Or is it honour the stupidity of the commanding officer who did not see fit to check the order given the unreliability of the communication channel?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:46 pm

Bryn Mawr;1328801 wrote: Or is it honour the stupidity of the commanding officer who did not see fit to check the order given the unreliability of the communication channel? So you would have prefered the Nazi's to hop the channel would you?

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:50 pm

oscar;1328802 wrote: So you would have prefered the Nazi's to hop the channel would you?

How do you get to this statement from :-

Or is it honour the stupidity of the commanding officer who did not see fit to check the order given the unreliability of the communication channel?

Saint_ · Post by **Saint_** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:52 pm

Bryn Mawr;1328801 wrote: Or is it honour the stupidity of the commanding officer who did not see fit to check the order given the unreliability of the communication channel?

Nope. "not though they knew, someone had blundered." They knew that it was a mistake and charged anyway. It's that courage we honor.

Saint_ · Post by **Saint_** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:52 pm

Snowfire;1328796 wrote: . Its not the alcohol, its the nature in which you choose to live your life.

Bingo.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:53 pm

Bryn Mawr;1328804 wrote: How do you get to this statement from :- My apologies Bryn... I took It as a generalisation and not specific to the Charge Of The Light Brigade.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:56 pm

Saint_;1328806 wrote: Nope. "not though they knew, someone had blundered." They knew that it was a mistake and charged anyway. It's that courage we honor.

The courage of the men is undoubted, the stupidity of the officer is equally without doubt and the nett achievement was to further weaken an already understrength force.

They started with 60,000 men, by the time of the Charge of the Light Brigade they were down to 11,000. To throw away 600+ of their prime troops was gross stupidity.

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:57 pm

oscar;1328799 wrote: Well said Doubtfire... Well said.

On a jocular note... You have to feel sorry for the dishelved guy In the middle of a blow job and the Old Bill turn up.

There'll be more where that came from. He's got no worries on that score

Saint_ · Post by **Saint_** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:59 pm

Bryn Mawr;1328813 wrote: The courage of the men is undoubted, the stupidity of the officer is equally without doubt and the nett achievement was to further weaken an already understrength force.

They stareted with 60,000 men, by the time of the Cha5rge of the Light Brigad3e they were down to 11,000. To throw away 600+ of their prime troops was gross stupidity.

Absolutely correct. Spot has a tendency to see all war as dishonorable. My point was that he was right about war itself, but wrong about the men and women in war. Even in a dishonorable situation, people, themselves, can still be honorable and deserving of respect and that's why it was so detestable that the woman urinated on their memorial.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:06 pm

Saint_;1328815 wrote: Absolutely correct. Spot has a tendency to see all war as dishonorable. My point was that he was right about war itself, but wrong about the men and women in war. Even in a dishonorable situation, people, themselves, can still be honorable and deserving of respect and that's why it was so detestable that the woman urinated on their memorial.

Had she knowingly urinated on a War Memorial then I would condemn it out of hand. That she did so in a drunken stupor is no worse than her urinating at the back of the local bike sheds - no insult was intended. It might well be an act of gross indecency but it is scarcely the end of civilisation in Britian as portrayed.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:21 pm

Bryn Mawr;1328820 wrote: Had she knowingly urinated on a War Memorial then I would condemn it out of hand. That she did so in a drunken stupor is no worse than her urinating at the back of the local bike sheds - no insult was intended. It might well be an act of gross indecency but it is scarcely the end of civilisation in Britian as portrayed. She was drunk but how do you know that she was not aware of where she was and what she was doing?

Saint_ · Post by **Saint_** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:29 pm

Bryn Mawr;1328820 wrote: Had she knowingly urinated on a War Memorial then I would condemn it out of hand....she did so in a drunken stupor...

And I have to say that I have never known anyone to be so drunk as to not know where they were. At the point of intoxication where that might occur, you pass out. Especially as that memorial is dozens of feet tall, surrounded by all kinds of indicators and fences, and the woman operates in that neighborhood.

Her excuse "I didn't know where I was" is a lie to cover up her embarrassment. She knew damned well where she was and most likely thought it was funny or wanted to spit on the rest of humanity.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:29 pm

oscar;1328826 wrote: She was drunk but how do you know that she was not aware of where she was and what she was doing?

Before you can take the punative action the RBL did then they need to be able to show that she was - this is the way justice works in the UK.

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:31 pm

Snowfire;1328796 wrote: You know, I know a few drunks. I know a few alcoholics. I even know a couple of former heroin addicts. I dont recall any of them at any stage of their lives debasing themselves to such a level. Its not the alcohol, its the nature in which you choose to live your life. We are all responsible for our lives and actions and reap what we sow. Excesses in life are no excuse. I find her actions reprehensible. She shows no remorse and can expect no respect in return.

I choose the monument. Every time

This is an interesting thought, Snowfire. I wonder what this woman's history is? How did she end up as such a destitute? Maybe her actions were representative of her statement against the state. Not that I condone it. But maybe she feels let down by this constitution.

Somewhere along the line, she was somebody's child.

I agree that pissing on any national edifict is disrespectful. But what has she got to lose? Perhaps she'll get a warm night in a cell.

How quickly we condemn people for what they do befoe we ask why they did it. It is so easy to castigate those with nothing. What do they owe us? Why should they uphold our values when they haven't even a roof to sleep under?

The scum of society. The ones who didn't make it through childhood.

But for the grace of God go I.

And I'm not that far away from them the way things are going.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:38 pm

Saint_;1328828 wrote: And I have to say that I have never known anyone to be so drunk as to not know where they were. At the point of intoxication where that might occur, you pass out. Especially as that memorial is dozens of feet tall, surrounded by all kinds of indicators and fences, and the woman operates in that neighborhood.

Her excuse "I didn't know where I was" is a lie to cover up her embarrassment. She knew damned well where she was and most likely thought it was funny or wanted to spit on the rest of humanity.

I recall Ozzy Osbourn going through exactly the same condemnation after pissing up the wall of The Alimo. No way he knew but no way the Texans would accept that anyone could not know.

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:41 pm

Bryn Mawr;1328820 wrote: Had she knowingly urinated on a War Memorial then I would condemn it out of hand. That she did so in a drunken stupor is no worse than her urinating at the back of the local bike sheds - no insult was intended. It might well be an act of gross indecency but it is scarcely the end of civilisation in Britian as portrayed.

As I've said. Drinking to excess is no excuse for indecent behaviour. We are all responsible for our actions and the consequenses thereof. The very fact she showed no remorse after the fact, indeed said something along the lines of " so what its only dead people", shows that she values little of what the memorial represents and the nature in which she lives her life. No its not the end of civilisation but it doesnt hurt to show our revulsion

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:47 pm

Bryn Mawr;1328829 wrote: Before you can take the punative action the RBL did then they need to be able to show that she was - this is the way justice works in the UK.

Did she not say that she was embarressed by her actions? That would show recognition to some degree.

I have to say that I find your attitude disgusting and It is this kind of attitude that makes the middle generation and their off-spring the embaressment that we are abroad. Binge drinking, high teenage pregnancy rates and City centres war zones late at night from anti Social behaviour are the direct result of a Bleeding Hearts loony Leftie's who can not recognise and deal with public Indecency.

When folk like you and Spot say this Is no big deal, then that is exactly why this countries morals are In the toilet.

Do you not understand that surviving war veterans have every right to show up at court and display their dis-pleasure? That is the right of a democracy is It not?

The War veterans who showed up at the court most likely served with some of the fallen comrades that the Blackpool memorial represents. To them... That excuse of a human being was urinating on their comrades.

If any-one urinated on my families grave or monument, my family would be out In force at the court.... as any family would.

It is attitudes like yours that has led to the break-down of morals In this country.