Brawl erupts at Calif. kindergarten graduation

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:52 am

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37916652/ns ... eird_news/

Good grief, whose watching the kidlets while these parents are duking it out!?

Peg · Post by **Peg** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:59 am

What a fine example for the children. :-5

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:12 am

Forgive me for saying this, but it looks to me like another ugly example of those social skills todays parents were taught when they attended school. They must have all failed, wouldn't you think?

along-for-the-ride · Post by **along-for-the-ride** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:06 am

Shame on them!

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:14 am

I wonder what the argument was about.

JTD · Post by **JTD** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:57 am

I have never seen anything like it and no regard for the children.

ZAP · Post by **ZAP** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:44 am

Accountable;1319159 wrote: I wonder what the argument was about.

It's "under investigation."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37928486

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:41 am

Ahso!;1318852 wrote: Forgive me for saying this, but it looks to me like another ugly example of those social skills todays parents were taught when they attended school. They must have all failed, wouldn't you think?

Ahso, I'm not exactly sure of what you mean here

Are you saying that we teach bad behavior in school?

All we do in my school is teach social skills and anti bullying in our classrooms.

Some teachers and parents certainly do lack social skills. They drag their problems into school creating too much drama.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:04 pm

Kathy Ellen;1319223 wrote: Ahso, I'm not exactly sure of what you mean here

Are you saying that we teach bad behavior in school?

All we do in my school is teach social skills and anti bullying in our classrooms.

Some teachers and parents certainly do lack social skills. They drag their problems into school creating too much drama.
Only going by my high school, I think that where we may fail is by assuming that kids learned all they need to know about good behavior when they were in elementary school, and any bad behavior must therefore be purposeful. I'm finding that the teenage boys I interact with really don't know how to behave as an adult among adults except in the competitive role of a pecking order hierarchy.

I sometimes get the privileged opportunity to talk to a teen to help him learn a life lesson (rather than an academic one). I never have more of a young man's laser-focused attention than when he angrily asks why he should do such-and-such and I reply "Because this is what men do." I state it firmly, slightly louder than we had been talking, and with intense eye-to-eye contact. It definitely works in the short term. I hope it works long term.

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:17 am

Accountable;1319274 wrote: Only going by my high school, I think that where we may fail is by assuming that kids learned all they need to know about good behavior when they were in elementary school, and any bad behavior must therefore be purposeful. I'm finding that the teenage boys I interact with really don't know how to behave as an adult among adults except in the competitive role of a pecking order hierarchy.

I sometimes get the privileged opportunity to talk to a teen to help him learn a life lesson (rather than an academic one). I never have more of a young man's laser-focused attention than when he angrily asks why he should do such-and-such and I reply "Because this is what men do." I state it firmly, slightly louder than we had been talking, and with intense eye-to-eye contact. It definitely works in the short term. I hope it works long term.

I wish that we had more men in our elementary schools. Most of our male teachers want to work with the older kids and have access to coaching positions in the intermediate and high schools.

We have 35 teachers in my elementary school and only 2 of them are men:yh_angry Children need both male and female role models for sure.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:29 am

I'd originally gotten certified in elementary, but honestly I don't think I could cope with younger than 4th grade at the extreme. Plus, now that I've gotten a taste of what making lesson plans for all subjects all day to keep the attention of one group of kids, I'm not sure I'm up to the task.