WASHINGTON (Dec. 1) -- An auto parts employee laid off from his job last year has been able to hang onto his health insurance because the federal government has picked up most of the tab. That subsidy ends Tuesday for Don Hall and thousands of other Americans.
Hall's premiums will jump $500 a month, becoming unaffordable for him and his wife. A new study finds that many other workers will be in the same position unless Congress acts.
"That extra $500 is the difference between mortgage, insurance or a couple other items that are of course important to our health — food, utilities, those kinds of things," Hall, of Castalia, Ohio, said in a phone interview Monday.
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Health Benefits Set to Expire for Laid-Off
Health Benefits Set to Expire for Laid-Off
I feel bad for these folks, but I'm not receiving any federal subsidies for health insurance nor are the other 36,999,999 uninsured. I guess they will have to tough it out with the rest of us now.
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Be the wave that I am and then
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Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
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Health Benefits Set to Expire for Laid-Off
There you have it plain and simple if your unemployed paying a $500 a month COBRA payments for health coverage is insane and what it wrong with health care in this country from the get go.
1. Employers are being taken to the cleaners to cover employees.
2. Employees are being taken to the cleaner to pay their portion of the employers health care coverage plan.
3. The employee and employers health care plan doesn't cover many things that should be required under any health care plan.
4. We have a nation of uninsured citizens because of this. :-5
5. State and local Medical or Medicaid programs are over burdened because we don't have health care coverage for all American's.
6. The Obama plan may not be perfect but something has to be done we can't continue on as we are everyone will pay the price if we do. :-5
My entire family is in the health care field there isn't one of us who thinks what we have now works, it hasn't worked for decades. What will work is something close to Obama plan with modification. Don't kid yourself folks something has to be done and the government has to be involved we are to far down to come back through the private sector.
OK my rant is over.
[QUOTE]I feel bad for these folks, but I'm not receiving any federal subsidies for health insurance nor are the other 36,999,999 uninsured. I guess they will have to tough it out with the rest of us now.[/QUOTE]
1. Employers are being taken to the cleaners to cover employees.
2. Employees are being taken to the cleaner to pay their portion of the employers health care coverage plan.
3. The employee and employers health care plan doesn't cover many things that should be required under any health care plan.
4. We have a nation of uninsured citizens because of this. :-5
5. State and local Medical or Medicaid programs are over burdened because we don't have health care coverage for all American's.
6. The Obama plan may not be perfect but something has to be done we can't continue on as we are everyone will pay the price if we do. :-5
My entire family is in the health care field there isn't one of us who thinks what we have now works, it hasn't worked for decades. What will work is something close to Obama plan with modification. Don't kid yourself folks something has to be done and the government has to be involved we are to far down to come back through the private sector.
OK my rant is over.
[QUOTE]I feel bad for these folks, but I'm not receiving any federal subsidies for health insurance nor are the other 36,999,999 uninsured. I guess they will have to tough it out with the rest of us now.[/QUOTE]
ALOHA!!
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
Health Benefits Set to Expire for Laid-Off
CARLA;1268472 wrote: There you have it plain and simple if your unemployed paying a $500 a month COBRA payments for health coverage is insane and what it wrong with health care in this country from the get go.
1. Employers are being taken to the cleaners to cover employees.
2. Employees are being taken to the cleaner to pay their portion of the employers health care coverage plan.
3. The employee and employers health care plan doesn't cover many things that should be required under any health care plan.
4. We have a nation of uninsured citizens because of this. :-5
5. State and local Medical or Medicaid programs are over burdened because we don't have health care coverage for all American's.
6. The Obama plan may not be perfect but something has to be done we can't continue on as we are everyone will pay the price if we do. :-5
My entire family is in the health care field there isn't one of us who thinks what we have now works, it hasn't worked for decades. What will work is something close to Obama plan with modification. Don't kid yourself folks something has to be done and the government has to be involved we are to far down to come back through the private sector.
OK my rant is over. :DGood rant! In 1991 when i left my corporate job, I had very good coverage all paid by the company. There were 7 of us in the family as my oldest child was only 11 at the time. Cobra wanted over $700.00 per month to continue coverage and if my memory serves me the coverage was a drastic downgrade. That was 1991, I can't imagine what it would be today. My wife tried to get me put on hers but the price is $249.00 monthly, I said no, I'm not worth that much any longer.
What really sucks is I qualified for years through the VA but didn't know it. Finally when I found out, the Bush administration changed the qualifications, first in 2003 with income qualifications, but I would have still qualified since I'm a Vietnam era veteran and served in the war zone during the final evacuation and was technically exposed to agent orange (no comments please) . However 2 months before I submitted the paper work the Bush administration again set the bar even higher that since I was in "blue" (off the coast) waters and not "brown " (in rivers) waters I once again just missed out. Had I only attempted to get in prior to mid 2003, I'd be fully covered as would my wife if she lost her job.
I went round and round with the VA but no go.
1. Employers are being taken to the cleaners to cover employees.
2. Employees are being taken to the cleaner to pay their portion of the employers health care coverage plan.
3. The employee and employers health care plan doesn't cover many things that should be required under any health care plan.
4. We have a nation of uninsured citizens because of this. :-5
5. State and local Medical or Medicaid programs are over burdened because we don't have health care coverage for all American's.
6. The Obama plan may not be perfect but something has to be done we can't continue on as we are everyone will pay the price if we do. :-5
My entire family is in the health care field there isn't one of us who thinks what we have now works, it hasn't worked for decades. What will work is something close to Obama plan with modification. Don't kid yourself folks something has to be done and the government has to be involved we are to far down to come back through the private sector.
OK my rant is over. :DGood rant! In 1991 when i left my corporate job, I had very good coverage all paid by the company. There were 7 of us in the family as my oldest child was only 11 at the time. Cobra wanted over $700.00 per month to continue coverage and if my memory serves me the coverage was a drastic downgrade. That was 1991, I can't imagine what it would be today. My wife tried to get me put on hers but the price is $249.00 monthly, I said no, I'm not worth that much any longer.
What really sucks is I qualified for years through the VA but didn't know it. Finally when I found out, the Bush administration changed the qualifications, first in 2003 with income qualifications, but I would have still qualified since I'm a Vietnam era veteran and served in the war zone during the final evacuation and was technically exposed to agent orange (no comments please) . However 2 months before I submitted the paper work the Bush administration again set the bar even higher that since I was in "blue" (off the coast) waters and not "brown " (in rivers) waters I once again just missed out. Had I only attempted to get in prior to mid 2003, I'd be fully covered as would my wife if she lost her job.
I went round and round with the VA but no go.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities,â€
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Health Benefits Set to Expire for Laid-Off
In the UK you get very little help, if at all, with your mortgage payments if unemployed-even private unemployment cover only pays out for a limited period. Private Ill health mortgage cover pays for a short period as well and private income ill health cover only pays out limited benefits. But at least you don't have to worry about not getting medical treatment because you're not insured. Why on earth do you all put up with it?
Health Benefits Set to Expire for Laid-Off
gmc;1268489 wrote: In the UK you get very little help, if at all, with your mortgage payments if unemployed-even private unemployment cover only pays out for a limited period. Private Ill health mortgage cover pays for a short period as well and private income ill health cover only pays out limited benefits. But at least you don't have to worry about not getting medical treatment because you're not insured. Why on earth do you all put up with it?Some of us are trying not to. We vote in a president that promises but then congress gets in the way.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities,â€
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Health Benefits Set to Expire for Laid-Off
Ahso!;1268490 wrote: Some of us are trying not to. We vote in a president that promises but then congress gets in the way.
When did allowing private companies to rip people off start equating to freedom and democracy?
When did allowing private companies to rip people off start equating to freedom and democracy?
Health Benefits Set to Expire for Laid-Off
gmc;1270307 wrote: When did allowing private companies to rip people off start equating to freedom and democracy?I don't know. Perhaps you can tell me, many of you guy's on that side of the Atlantic seem to be better students of history than many of us.
It's just a matter of faith and trust.
It's just a matter of faith and trust.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities,â€
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Health Benefits Set to Expire for Laid-Off
Ahso!;1270309 wrote: I don't know. Perhaps you can tell me, many of you guy's on that side of the Atlantic seem to be better students of history than many of us.
It's just a matter of faith and trust.
There is a debate about how history should be taught in this country-basically two schools of thought-one it should only be about all the important dates and the kings and queens and too much emphasis is given to social history and the other that while dates and kings and queens are important so is social history because it's about the ordinary people who actually shaped things. The latter tends to make you quite left wing in your views which is one of the reasons those who would rule are not too keen on it, questioning those in power and not taking things on faith and trust is uncomfortable for politicians who prefer to work within their own wee club or who think they know best for everybody.
Our history is all around us you can't go anywhere without wondering why someone put a castle there or what is that funny looking building maybe that's why we are more interested in it-if we are that is. Your social history is very different from ours but actually the same common issues are there. A lot of your westerns have the same theme-little man fighting back against the big cattleman/crooked politicians wanting to take everything for themselves who get to decide what is best-so do a lot of your films from the 60's and 70's all the ones about the civil rights movement are the same theme-who gets to choose. The civil rights in the 60's was the same thing-who rules who gets to choose.
Your healthcare debate is the same kind of thing-who gets to rule but somehow it seems to be more about whether ordinary people have the right to ask for universal healthcare if that's what they want and by the way that's communism if you do something for the good of all regardless of their station in life and therefore you shouldn't do it because it takes away your freedom to die if you can't afford healthcare.
It's a mystery why would anyone choose to oppose something that is so much for their benefit yet be happy to pay to make a private company rich and let them decide whether you get treatment or not and if you can't pay the premiums tough ****. As a non american it's fascinating watching and hearing the arguments-they're very similar to the ones out forward in 1947 in opposition to the NHS but here the overwhelming sentiment was up yours pal we are having this whether you like it or not. That sentiment remains and will lose an election for a party that doesn't support the NHS. Yes it is a socialist policy but that's not a swearword to the rest of the world the way it is in the US.
But I'm a sad git that finds politics interesting. We live in interesting times-100 years from now people will look back at these years and wonder why on earth we did what we are about to do. So who gets to choose you- or do you take it all on faith and trust that your leaders actually know better than you?
It's just a matter of faith and trust.
There is a debate about how history should be taught in this country-basically two schools of thought-one it should only be about all the important dates and the kings and queens and too much emphasis is given to social history and the other that while dates and kings and queens are important so is social history because it's about the ordinary people who actually shaped things. The latter tends to make you quite left wing in your views which is one of the reasons those who would rule are not too keen on it, questioning those in power and not taking things on faith and trust is uncomfortable for politicians who prefer to work within their own wee club or who think they know best for everybody.
Our history is all around us you can't go anywhere without wondering why someone put a castle there or what is that funny looking building maybe that's why we are more interested in it-if we are that is. Your social history is very different from ours but actually the same common issues are there. A lot of your westerns have the same theme-little man fighting back against the big cattleman/crooked politicians wanting to take everything for themselves who get to decide what is best-so do a lot of your films from the 60's and 70's all the ones about the civil rights movement are the same theme-who gets to choose. The civil rights in the 60's was the same thing-who rules who gets to choose.
Your healthcare debate is the same kind of thing-who gets to rule but somehow it seems to be more about whether ordinary people have the right to ask for universal healthcare if that's what they want and by the way that's communism if you do something for the good of all regardless of their station in life and therefore you shouldn't do it because it takes away your freedom to die if you can't afford healthcare.
It's a mystery why would anyone choose to oppose something that is so much for their benefit yet be happy to pay to make a private company rich and let them decide whether you get treatment or not and if you can't pay the premiums tough ****. As a non american it's fascinating watching and hearing the arguments-they're very similar to the ones out forward in 1947 in opposition to the NHS but here the overwhelming sentiment was up yours pal we are having this whether you like it or not. That sentiment remains and will lose an election for a party that doesn't support the NHS. Yes it is a socialist policy but that's not a swearword to the rest of the world the way it is in the US.
But I'm a sad git that finds politics interesting. We live in interesting times-100 years from now people will look back at these years and wonder why on earth we did what we are about to do. So who gets to choose you- or do you take it all on faith and trust that your leaders actually know better than you?