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What native Americans think of Obama

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:20 am
by hoppy
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What native Americans think of Obama

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:24 am
by Oscar Namechange
hoppy;1225568 wrote: Native American’s Against Obama Weblog

Home Blimey Hops !!! I just had a look at the site and read some of the links. I never realised the Native Americans were looked upon in this way. Do you donate may I ask?

What native Americans think of Obama

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:44 am
by hoppy
No, I just found the site. One of my uncle's was 1/2 indian. He was somehow connected with the OSS in WW2.

What native Americans think of Obama

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:52 am
by chonsigirl
Obama has ignored issues from this group.

Their greatest fear is this: Obama now holds executive power. He can over ride previous executive orders, in which many of their reservations were originally created.

A partial list of the years listed:

INDIAN AFFAIRS: LAWS AND TREATIES. Vol. IV, Laws

But he will award a medal of freedom to one Native American:

Obama to honor Crow historian, vet with Medal of Freedom | greatfallstribune.com | Great Falls Tribune

What native Americans think of Obama

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:54 am
by Oscar Namechange
hoppy;1225583 wrote: No, I just found the site. One of my uncle's was 1/2 indian. He was somehow connected with the OSS in WW2.
Thankyou for posting it. I love reading about other cultures.

My Husband and I were out in the English countryside recently hunting that ever exclusive record Barbel fish and we stumbled upon a true Cree Indian carving a lump of wood. We talked at length as to how he ended up home-less in England but his life was so interesting.

What native Americans think of Obama

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:02 am
by hoppy
My cousin's dad, the half indian uncle is French for the other half. His mom was full blooded Cree or Cherokee, I forget which. Cousin is researching the family for a book. She has travelled parts of Canada and all over the USA interviewing relatives. Her great granddad was a fur trader. He established trading posts around Canada. That's how he met the mom.

What native Americans think of Obama

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:36 am
by Oscar Namechange
hoppy;1225600 wrote: My cousin's dad, the half indian uncle is French for the other half. His mom was full blooded Cree or Cherokee, I forget which. Cousin is researching the family for a book. She has travelled parts of Canada and all over the USA interviewing relatives. Her great granddad was a fur trader. He established trading posts around Canada. That's how he met the mom. I am so fascinated by folks ancestry. My bro traced ours back to the 18th century and is stuck there at the moment. Ours is nothing to shout about although a very military family.

I love seeing old photo's of folks ancesters as well.

The Cree we met was just fascinating. He had travelled the world doing his carvings and we told him we would go back to see him as he sleeps in a van in a field. I'll ask if i can take a pic of him to post here.

What native Americans think of Obama

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:48 am
by gmc
I can’t tell you how surprised she was, looking up at the caseworker my daughter in

law asked, “I don’t get to pick my own doctors? The caseworker answered by

saying, “No, you can only go to ones we approve and that will accept Medicaid.

She went on to explain, “these are the only two. Now, this is in a city with a population of 330,000.00 people, so its not a small town.


I don't get it. It looks like the problem is that there are not enough doctors who will accept medicaid rather than medicaid itself. Why are you not outraged that so many doctors will turn away patients just because they can't pay them enough? If they were rich enough they presumably wouldn't have a problem. or if you had some kind of universal care system there would be plenty of doctors to choose from.

Prior to the NHS in the UK there were a lot of self help co-operative based life and health insurance companies that were aimed at low earners to provide medical care and a lot of the trade unions and craft organisations had links for their members, A lot of them had Quaker or Methodist originators-not the least bit socialist. Why is there nothing like that for native americans? The basic concept was the same as our NHS in that you all pay a regular premium but the benefits are there if you need them-so yes some people pay for the care of others, on the other hand they also make sure it's there should they need it. That's where the concept of national insurance came from in the UK.

Most of them disappeared as the need was no longer there but some morphed in to organisation that will pay an income of you are in hospital for any length of time-medical treatment may be free but the bills still need paying.

I just don't understand americans on this issue you seem to have real hang up about supposedly socialist ideas.

posted by hoppy

My cousin's dad, the half indian uncle is French for the other half. His mom was full blooded Cree or Cherokee, I forget which. Cousin is researching the family for a book. She has travelled parts of Canada and all over the USA interviewing relatives. Her great granddad was a fur trader. He established trading posts around Canada. That's how he met the mom.


My ancestors were celts, we get a mention in the bible. So do yours cos the part french uncle means you have likely have celt in you as well. We could be very very distantly related. What a thought eh?

What native Americans think of Obama

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:58 am
by hoppy
I started trying to research my dad's family. Found out there is a valley named same as our family name. In that valley is castle ruins known by the same name. It's located in Slovenia. Haven't found much else yet. Got lots of family in the CR.

What native Americans think of Obama

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:06 pm
by chonsigirl
Medical services for Natives Americans falls under the Indian Health Service, which falls under the BIA, Department of the Interior.

Indian Health Service

Usually some reservations that have their own hospitals and doctors provide this out of their own earning, for example casino profits. It can be a traditional hospital, or a dual type of medical practice, relying on modern medicine and traditional methods. I know one that was started in California with the doctor and traditional healer working side by side on cases, it started just about 2 years ago if I recall.

Statistics for this group are shocking in comparison to the US norm, since specific maladies affect this group more. The government just does not provide enough medical care for them.

And would this change under the propsed health care plan? I haven't read anything that said it would or wouldn't.

What native Americans think of Obama

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:55 pm
by Nomad
oscar;1225594 wrote: Thankyou for posting it. I love reading about other cultures.

My Husband and I were out in the English countryside recently hunting that ever exclusive record Barbel fish and we stumbled upon a true Cree Indian carving a lump of wood. We talked at length as to how he ended up home-less in England but his life was so interesting.


I recently heard a similar story. There must be oodles of homeless Cree Indians in England.

What native Americans think of Obama

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:16 pm
by Oscar Namechange
Nomad;1226015 wrote: I recently heard a similar story. There must be oodles of homeless Cree Indians in England. :yh_rotfl

Look here Mt Fluffy, Hops wasn't there when I told you.

What native Americans think of Obama

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:31 am
by hoppy
gmc;1225782 wrote: I don't get it. It looks like the problem is that there are not enough doctors who will accept medicaid rather than medicaid itself. Why are you not outraged that so many doctors will turn away patients just because they can't pay them enough? If they were rich enough they presumably wouldn't have a problem. or if you had some kind of universal care system there would be plenty of doctors to choose from.

Prior to the NHS in the UK there were a lot of self help co-operative based life and health insurance companies that were aimed at low earners to provide medical care and a lot of the trade unions and craft organisations had links for their members, A lot of them had Quaker or Methodist originators-not the least bit socialist. Why is there nothing like that for native americans? The basic concept was the same as our NHS in that you all pay a regular premium but the benefits are there if you need them-so yes some people pay for the care of others, on the other hand they also make sure it's there should they need it. That's where the concept of national insurance came from in the UK.

Most of them disappeared as the need was no longer there but some morphed in to organisation that will pay an income of you are in hospital for any length of time-medical treatment may be free but the bills still need paying.

I just don't understand americans on this issue you seem to have real hang up about supposedly socialist ideas.

posted by hoppy



My ancestors were celts, we get a mention in the bible. So do yours cos the part french uncle means you have likely have celt in you as well. We could be very very distantly related. What a thought eh?


Hi cuz.:D

What native Americans think of Obama

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:35 am
by nvalleyvee
What does any conservative think about Obama?

I'm still screwed on so many levels.