Baby of 2 is Raped by Baby Peters Killer.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Fri May 01, 2009 11:51 am

This story I heard on the News this evening sickened me to say the least.The turd that killed Baby Peter also raped a 2 year old who is 4 now and is the youngest ever to give evidence at The Old Bailey.....words cannot express how I feel about the no good bastard that did this to her and Baby Peter.

Baby P 'stepfather' guilty of raping two-year-old - Crime, UK - The Independent

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Fri May 01, 2009 12:14 pm

Whattiya do eh? what do you do?:-5:(

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Fri May 01, 2009 12:18 pm

fuzzywuzzy;1182420 wrote: Whattiya do eh? what do you do?:-5:(I was actually sitting here thinking that and what a waste of tax payers money to keep this ..............well what can you call the no good git.......alive.I know what I would like to do with him thats for sure.Oh I know yer gonna get ye ones that shout.....oh but his sick......I couldnt give a rats arse if he is.What Baby Peter went through and this poor little Angel......well.

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Fri May 01, 2009 12:33 pm

Oh I wouldn't worry Carol, something tells me he'll be rightly fixed up in prison along with the charming mother.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Fri May 01, 2009 12:38 pm

fuzzywuzzy;1182426 wrote: Oh I wouldn't worry Carol, something tells me he'll be rightly fixed up in prison along with the charming mother.Oh I hear what ye saying babe and would like to think that but these type of people are kept well away from others.I cant get my head around how any man can kill an innocent baby and get sexual pleasure from a 2 year old....sick or not it just makes my blood boil.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Fri May 01, 2009 2:08 pm

One day these people will be dealt with how they truely deserve to be.I have no answer to how but it will happen......it has to.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri May 01, 2009 2:10 pm

I saw this article this morning and was sickened. If there is ever a case for lethal injection then this is it. Why should we keep scum like this who will never be able to be released in prison for the rest of his days. Or can we do a deal with Iran? as I've seen what they do to child rapists out there.

I don't condone violence but i hope other preisoners put this turd in fear of his life every single day that he breathes.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Fri May 01, 2009 2:22 pm

oscar;1182482 wrote: I saw this article this morning and was sickened. If there is ever a case for lethal injection then this is it. Why should we keep scum like this who will never be able to be released in prison for the rest of his days. Or can we do a deal with Iran? as I've seen what they do to child rapists out there.

I don't condone violence but i hope other preisoners put this turd in fear of his life every single day that he breathes.I dont always agree with what you say at times Oscar and theres prob many out there now reading this and dont agree with your words there but im not one of those....100% I agree with you.Slime Balls like that do not deserve to breath fresh air......or any air IMO.

mrsK · Post by **mrsK** » Fri May 01, 2009 2:36 pm

Poor defensless babies.:-4:-4:-4

That is so sickening.

I hope the pieces of rubbish get exactly what they deserve.

I am sure they will & no one will care a bit when they go to jail.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Fri May 01, 2009 3:01 pm

mrsK;1182507 wrote: Poor defensless babies.:-4:-4:-4

That is so sickening.

I hope the pieces of rubbish get exactly what they deserve.

I am sure they will & no one will care a bit when they go to jail.H they will never get what they truely deserve thats for sure:(

along-for-the-ride · Post by **along-for-the-ride** » Fri May 01, 2009 4:09 pm

There is no justifiaction in the world for molesting an innocent child. This is yet another example of the true monsters in this world.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Fri May 01, 2009 4:14 pm

along-for-the-ride;1182568 wrote: There is no justifiaction in the world for molesting an innocent child. This is yet another example of the true monsters in this world.I totally agree but theres still some who would try to say otherwise about Monsters like this and all I can do is say to them look at Baby Peters Face ...... also imagine a 2 year old baby girl being used in such a way.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Fri May 01, 2009 4:39 pm

Many years ago when I was quite young I used to take play with a child ....her name was Kim Roberts.It was in the 60s.To cut a very long and not so nice story short she was found dead in Epping Forest.To this day her Murderer was never found although in later years I went out with a Policeman who knew alot about the case.It seems they knew who did it but just didnt have enough evidence and he also told me that when pictures of little Kim was shown to the Police so many just broke down.....her poor little body was covered with love bites....something that wasnt made public at the time...he also went onto tell me that when a body has been discovered and it says they had been strangled.....well it didnt always mean the obvious.....I have never forget little Kim and reading about certain cases always brings those memorys back.

Murders in the UK: Kim Roberts – London 1/3/1964

Post by **Sunshine** » Fri May 01, 2009 5:16 pm

Those poor children. :-1 IF the mother hid the fact that the boyfriend was abusive she should get the same sort of punishment IMO.

I would just like to be able to be the one to pass judgement here on earth. I'm sure our higher power will administer the vengence after death.

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Fri May 01, 2009 9:30 pm

Kill him he is useless and a danger to society. :-5 Hopefully he will get what is coming to him in prison.

Victoria · Post by **Victoria** » Sat May 02, 2009 2:00 am

CARLA;1182642 wrote: Kill him he is useless and a danger to society. :-5 Hopefully he will get what is coming to him in prison.

Just remember the prison guards will be charged with making sure he is safe and they will have to call him sir.

My brother (RIP) refused to work with these creatures because they made his flesh crawl.

Swimming maggie · Post by **Swimming maggie** » Sat May 02, 2009 4:34 am

Sunshine;1182602 wrote: Those poor children. :-1 IF the mother hid the fact that the boyfriend was abusive she should get the same sort of punishment IMO.

I would just like to be able to be the one to pass judgement here on earth. I'm sure our higher power will administer the vengence after death.

I agree 100%, how could the mother let this happen, she is as much to blame as he is, they should be put up against a wall and shot, why should we pay for their up keep for the rest of their lives, they don't deserve to live.

It is impossible to imagine what that little girl went through, just pray and hope that she was too young to completely remember what happened to her. In cases like this I wish we still had the death penalty, that is what they both deserve.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat May 02, 2009 8:12 am

Victoria;1182672 wrote: Just remember the prison guards will be charged with making sure he is safe and they will have to call him sir.

My brother (RIP) refused to work with these creatures because they made his flesh crawl. One of my old school pals is a prison officer in one of the most well know prisons in England and has been there for 27 years now. He has told me that often they 'accidently' take their eyes off one of these vermin when other prisoners are around. He's told me some stories that lead me to not doubt this in the slightest. He will egt what's coming to him unless they do a ' Ian Huntley' and have him in solitary for the rest of his life.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sat May 02, 2009 12:33 pm

CARLA;1182642 wrote: Kill him he is useless and a danger to society. :-5 Hopefully he will get what is coming to him in prison.:mad:I agree totally Carla and wonder why I work bloody hard to pay my taxes to help keep monsters like this alive.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sat May 02, 2009 12:35 pm

Reading that story was undescribable:mad::-1. They should lock all of them up...everyone involved with that disgusting crime.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sat May 02, 2009 12:46 pm

qsducks;1182824 wrote: Reading that story was undescribable:mad::-1. They should lock all of them up...everyone involved with that disgusting crime.Ducky for every person who think like the people on this Thread

do its sad to say that theres those who try to defend these no good sickos.Always makes me think how they would act though if it was their baby or grandchild God forbid.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sat May 02, 2009 12:49 pm

Carolly;1182837 wrote: Ducky for every person who think like the people on this Thread

do its sad to say that theres those who try to defend these no good sickos.Always makes me think how they would act though if it was their baby or grandchild God forbid.

Thankyou Carolly...you just hit the nail on the head. These peeps who murdered/raped these children deserve to rot in hell even the social workers. Total scum!!!!:mad:

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sat May 02, 2009 12:54 pm

qsducks;1182839 wrote: Thankyou Carolly...you just hit the nail on the head. These peeps who murdered/raped these children deserve to rot in hell even the social workers. Total scum!!!!:mad:A baby girl of 2 raped fgs...a beautiful Baby boy also murdered.....why oh why.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sat May 02, 2009 1:03 pm

Carolly;1182843 wrote: A baby girl of 2 raped fgs...a beautiful Baby boy also murdered.....why oh why.

My feelings have always been that there are loving peeps out inthis world who can't for some reason have children...and then you get these total scumbags who can & treat their children like crap.:-5 And the system doesn't give a rat's arse...keep the family together garbage we here:-5...just frustrating I tell ya. All the social workers in a case very similar over here are now being prosecuted for the murder of Danielle Kelley from Philadelphia. Her parent's who did the abuse are trying to sue the city for Danielle's estate...makes me want to barf.:-5

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sat May 02, 2009 1:16 pm

qsducks;1182845 wrote: My feelings have always been that there are loving peeps out inthis world who can't for some reason have children...and then you get these total scumbags who can & treat their children like crap.:-5 And the system doesn't give a rat's arse...keep the family together garbage we here:-5...just frustrating I tell ya. All the social workers in a case very similar over here are now being prosecuted for the murder of Danielle Kelley from Philadelphia. Her parent's who did the abuse are trying to sue the city for Danielle's estate...makes me want to barf.:-5Oh fgs....no.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sat May 02, 2009 1:25 pm

Carolly;1182857 wrote: Oh fgs....no.

It was in the papers last August that the parent's wanted to sue the city for the daughter's estate...the uproar was unbelievable. Well, after that uproar their attorney said "oh no, the parent's have dropped themselves being able to be paid...it's for their other children", etc.:-5 all of whom are in foster care.:rolleyes: and no wonder.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sat May 02, 2009 1:31 pm

qsducks;1182862 wrote: It was in the papers last August that the parent's wanted to sue the city for the daughter's estate...the uproar was unbelievable. Well, after that uproar their attorney said "oh no, the parent's have dropped themselves being able to be paid...it's for their other children", etc.:-5 all of whom are in foster care.:rolleyes: and no wonder.Guess every Country has them Ducky

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sat May 02, 2009 1:35 pm

Carolly;1182867 wrote: Guess every Country has them Ducky

Yup they do....IMO, take the children away from these totally inept parents and give them up for adoption...their are loads of great parents to be out there. My two neices are adopted from China...oh they are soooo cute.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sat May 02, 2009 1:38 pm

qsducks;1182869 wrote: Yup they do....IMO, take the children away from these totally inept parents and give them up for adoption...their are loads of great parents to be out there. My two neices are adopted from China...oh they are soooo cute.Oh bless....very lucky little children;):-4

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat May 02, 2009 1:44 pm

Carolly;1182867 wrote: Guess every Country has them Ducky

The mother of baby Peter was found not guilty by the jury of cruelty to the little girl. In today's mail it said that the court heard evidence that she walked into the room when he was raping the baby but just said 'Don't do that'. She walked out the room and left him to it. Because she said 'Don't do that', she was found not guilty of cruelty to her. Anyone else walking in that room would have wrapped the nearest heavy object around his head but then bearing in mind the torture she allowed on her own baby, it doesn't surprise me. In my eyes, she should get prison as well for ignoring what she saw.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sat May 02, 2009 1:47 pm

Carolly;1182874 wrote: Oh bless....very lucky little children;):-4

Yes they are very lucky. One was left on a doorstep and the other was left at a hospital entrance.:-5 I do think China's thing of 1 child only is utterly disgusting and of course, the girls suffer. Actually, bil had adopted Lauren first and had signed up to adopt another child after that since his wife was having probs getting preg., well lo and behold, sil got preggars and they instead of backing out, came back to China and adopted Audrey. Turned out in the end that Audrey & Sean are the same ages...4 months apart & in the same grade.:wah:

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sat May 02, 2009 1:49 pm

oscar;1182879 wrote: The mother of baby Peter was found not guilty by the jury of cruelty to the little girl. In today's mail it said that the court heard evidence that she walked into the room when he was raping the baby but just said 'Don't do that'. She walked out the room and left him to it. Because she said 'Don't do that', she was found not guilty of cruelty to her. Anyone else walking in that room would have wrapped the nearest heavy object around his head but then bearing in mind the torture she allowed on her own baby, it doesn't surprise me. In my eyes, she should get prison as well for ignoring what she saw.Oscar that is wrong ....wrong ...wrong....British Justice at times stinks fgs.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sat May 02, 2009 1:52 pm

That cow of a Mother needs stringing up.Wonder when she will be pregnant again.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat May 02, 2009 1:54 pm

Carolly;1182889 wrote: That cow of a Mother needs stringing up.Wonder when she will be pregnant again. What also bugs me is that they are given false names. Let's name them..... perhaps then they will live in the fear baby Peter and the little girl did. Why are we protecting this waste of sperm?

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sat May 02, 2009 2:00 pm

oscar;1182890 wrote: What also bugs me is that they are given false names. Let's name them..... perhaps then they will live in the fear baby Peter and the little girl did. Why are we protecting this waste of sperm?They call it the law Oscar and its their right to be protected.....Ive heard some cases but this has got to me bad as how those babies must have suffered and why......to satisfy some beast who shouldnt even be breathing today IMO and as for her.....just hope she gets her dessert also and no I dont make any apologys to anybody for thinking this.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat May 02, 2009 2:05 pm

Carolly;1182892 wrote: They call it the law Oscar and its their right to be protected.....Ive heard some cases but this has got to me bad as how those babies must have suffered and why......to satisfy some beast who shouldnt even be breathing today IMO and as for her.....just hope she gets her dessert also and no I dont make any apologys to anybody for thinking this.
It also said in the Mail today that she will likely recieve a light sentence for allowing the death of baby Peter. With the time she has spent on remand she could be out by next year. Because the morons on facebook called for her death, her lawyer has argued that she needs a new identity. To give her this for the rest of her life, it will cost the tax payer £20 million..... who says crime doesn't pay? :-5:-5

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sat May 02, 2009 2:06 pm

oscar;1182879 wrote: The mother of baby Peter was found not guilty by the jury of cruelty to the little girl. In today's mail it said that the court heard evidence that she walked into the room when he was raping the baby but just said 'Don't do that'. She walked out the room and left him to it. Because she said 'Don't do that', she was found not guilty of cruelty to her. Anyone else walking in that room would have wrapped the nearest heavy object around his head but then bearing in mind the torture she allowed on her own baby, it doesn't surprise me. In my eyes, she should get prison as well for ignoring what she saw.

I'm stunned. I read about these kinds of cases all the time...if she saw it being done, not stopped it, etc. she would be found guilty here.

Carolly;1182886 wrote: Oscar that is wrong ....wrong ...wrong....British Justice at times stinks fgs.

Carolly;1182889 wrote: That cow of a Mother needs stringing up.Wonder when she will be pregnant again.

A local woman from my town got caught about 2 yrs ago...she did daycare and her monster boyfriend lived with her and she would let him take the little girls upstairs...and do his thing. He raped a 2 month old baby girl:-5:-5:-5. He also videotaped the children going to the bathroom...and then his former gf was also convicted for these crimes. All 3 are in jail serving life.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sat May 02, 2009 2:09 pm

qsducks;1182897 wrote: I'm stunned. I read about these kinds of cases all the time...if she saw it being done, not stopped it, etc. she would be found guilty here.

A local woman from my town got caught about 2 yrs ago...she did daycare and her monster boyfriend lived with her and she would let him take the little girls upstairs...and do his thing. He raped a 2 month old baby girl:-5:-5:-5. He also videotaped the children going to the bathroom...and then his former gf was also convicted for these crimes. All 3 are in jail serving life.2 months......OMG....it just gets worse.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sat May 02, 2009 2:15 pm

oscar;1182890 wrote: What also bugs me is that they are given false names. Let's name them..... perhaps then they will live in the fear baby Peter and the little girl did. Why are we protecting this waste of sperm?

oscar;1182896 wrote: It also said in the Mail today that she will likely recieve a light sentence for allowing the death of baby Peter. With the time she has spent on remand she could be out by next year. Because the morons on facebook called for her death, her lawyer has argued that she needs a new identity. To give her this for the rest of her life, it will cost the tax payer £20 million..... who says crime doesn't pay? :-5:-5

They don't do that in Philly you two. They will print their names in the paper for everyone to see...its the defense lawyers hired for these scum to scream "oh, they won't get a proper trial cuz everyone knows what they did, etc."...tough Shyte!!!! You did the crime, do the time.

daBunnyWendy7 · Post by **daBunnyWendy7** » Sat May 02, 2009 2:28 pm

This makes me so sad and angry, too. I recieved a jury summons and hope it will not be for something this terrible.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sat May 02, 2009 2:34 pm

daBunnyWendy7;1182909 wrote: This makes me so sad and angry, too. I recieved a jury summons and hope it will not be for something this terrible.

I just got one too but declined.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sun May 03, 2009 9:32 am

daBunnyWendy7;1182909 wrote: This makes me so sad and angry, too. I recieved a jury summons and hope it will not be for something this terrible. I was called for Jury Service at The Old Bailey about 30 years ago.I was quite young and was turned down 3 times there for cases before I was allowed to go on one.I dont know if the same rules apply now but in those days certain people the guilty partys barristers didnt want on the jury.....eg is they didnt want many woman on rape cases or any child abuse ones.....they wanted youngish people for a drug related offence.....mainly men for porno stuff and so it goes on.I ended up on a policemans case and ive never been so bored.....gawd it really was and we got told to go home in the end as we couldnt agree on a verdict:rolleyes:I again recieved another "invite" to go again a few years ago but because of reasons I managed to get out of it which isnt that easy here in England.Dont worry to much Wendy as you have to be really unlucky to recieve such a nasty case as this babys one;)

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Mon May 04, 2009 10:52 am

Can you believe the Monster who did this is going to appeal:-5:-5:-5

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon May 04, 2009 10:58 am

Carolly;1183541 wrote: Can you believe the Monster who did this is going to appeal:-5:-5:-5 Worse still in this whole vile family.......In yesterdays news of the world..... it was revealed that the father of baby P's mother is a convicted child rapist and pedophile. He was convicted for an act against a child in the 70's and another in the 80's. What a revolting sick family?

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Mon May 04, 2009 11:01 am

My lunch just came up my throat over that detail Oscar but didn't pass.:-5

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Mon May 04, 2009 11:02 am

oscar;1183544 wrote: Worse still in this whole vile family.......In yesterdays news of the world..... it was revealed that the father of baby P's mother is a convicted child rapist and pedophile. He was convicted for an act against a child in the 70's and another in the 80's. What a revolting sick family?
IMO then the Mother should have been extra protective towards her own children fgs.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon May 04, 2009 11:08 am

Carolly;1183547 wrote: IMO then the Mother should have been extra protective towards her own children fgs. There is a 'Panorama' prog coming up on tv shortly about the boyfriend who allegedly killed and tortured baby P. Through out all the investigations in Harringy council and failing to protect baby P, they insisited that they knew nothing of the boyfriends existence and claimed they had been duped by the mother who was a cunning liar. The Panarama investigation found that this was not true and now four other Social services staff relating to the case have been sacked. Social services were aware of the boyfriend all the time and even had a video of baby P's mother talking about him. They just failed to check the sicko out.

It was also revealed that the lodger who is also awaiting sentence for baby P's death is also a pedophile.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Mon May 04, 2009 11:11 am

oscar;1183553 wrote: There is a 'Panorama' prog coming up on tv shortly about the boyfriend who allegedly killed and tortured baby P. Through out all the investigations in Harringy council and failing to protect baby P, they insisited that they knew nothing of the boyfriends existence and claimed they had been duped by the mother who was a cunning liar. The Panarama investigation found that this was not true and now four other Social services staff relating to the case have been sacked. Social services were aware of the boyfriend all the time and even had a video of baby P's mother talking about him. They just failed to check the sicko out.

It was also revealed that the lodger who is also awaiting sentence for baby P's death is also a pedophile.
Oh Oscar......Im not easily lost for words but I sure am right now fgs.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Mon May 04, 2009 11:14 am

oscar;1183553 wrote: There is a 'Panorama' prog coming up on tv shortly about the boyfriend who allegedly killed and tortured baby P. Through out all the investigations in Harringy council and failing to protect baby P, they insisited that they knew nothing of the boyfriends existence and claimed they had been duped by the mother who was a cunning liar. The Panarama investigation found that this was not true and now four other Social services staff relating to the case have been sacked. Social services were aware of the boyfriend all the time and even had a video of baby P's mother talking about him. They just failed to check the sicko out.

It was also revealed that the lodger who is also awaiting sentence for baby P's death is also a pedophile.

Just disgusting to read all this!:mad: I said to Carolly the other day, so many loving parents who can't have children & these scum can have them & treat them like shyte. My heart goes out to these poor abused children:-4. Usually, I can't even watch it on tv...just makes me so angry.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon May 04, 2009 11:14 am

Carolly;1183559 wrote: Oh Oscar......Im not easily lost for words but I sure am right now fgs.

I'll try to find out when the 'Panarama' documentry is on for you.

What makes my blood boil is that when these vernmin are sentenced, we the tax payers will keep them for the rest of their lives.

:-5