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Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:11 am

Somebody email me if ya'll ever get rid of this anti-US cancer that's infested the Garden.

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:18 am

Accountable;1083395 wrote: Somebody email me if ya'll ever get rid of this anti-US cancer that's infested the Garden.

I agree Accountable. The whole place is suddenly flooded with it.

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:48 am

jimbo;1083422 wrote: not at all buddy

i'm very much pro american

but by pointing out the war on iraq is doing done great harm to the US/UK

i'm being patriotic by supporting my country not my politition ruining it

my emporer has no clothes .... i can see and i'm a dumbass i know you can see i to ,you just dont want to

sometimes the person screaming loudest knows they have lost the arguement

now go look for your/my emporers clothes

:):)

I dont think Accountable really meant you. Or at least I have not noticed that you are especially anti USA. But lately there has been some rampant bashing....this was not true before.

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:45 am

jimbo;1083449 wrote: i dont know of one fg person that is anti american

anti bush policy yes but not anti american

just because someone is anti iraq war does not make them anti american

i think you guys just pull that one out of the hat every time someone says something you dont like ..... typical americans :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl er that was a joke by the way

This site is awash in anti americanism. I was wrong about you. You are showing your true colors now. A veiled insult. hmmmm. What for? What is the point?

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:56 am

It's the constructive criticism defense, IMO... not trying to hurt anyones feelings, just trying to make you a better person..dont' ya know?

Bull-crap.

If you want to constructively criticize a politician in American, feel free to drop them a line, as I don't know of any that are current paid up members here and are seeking the council of foreign citizens..:rolleyes:

If you want to FIX some country, start and focus on your own... only once you have created the promise land, feel free to give us a heads-up on how you got there..

I quit bothering to argue with the non Americans among-st us Acct... I decided long ago that they are illogical in their position. They seem to want us to quit telling everyone else how to behave and forcing our democracy down any other countries throat, ITO... but they expect us to lead the way on environmental, social and economic issues worldwide

. They've never been able to make up their minds... if we leave the world alone.. they mustn't come back with any world obligations anymore. Don't **** and moan anymore about what we aren't doing or even better, how we are doing things in our own country... it's just none of their business, if we are expected to stay out of everyone elses...

Sheryl · Post by **Sheryl** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:00 am

How sad!

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:08 am

I've noticed that it's becoming worse too. But when we complain we're told that "it's not you it's your politicians" or that we have no sense of humor.

The constant digs are getting tiring. It'll be sad to start losing members over it.

el guapo · Post by **el guapo** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:12 am

am not pro or anti

never ate a whole american to know

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:13 am

sunny104;1083488 wrote: I've noticed that it's becoming worse too. But when we complain we're told that "it's not you it's your politicians" or that we have no sense of humor.

The constant digs are getting tiring. It'll be sad to start losing members over it.

Yes we are losing members. I already notice there are quite a few that have not been here. I know what you mean....these are veiled personal attacks on americans. But then they wash their hands by saying that they are just "criticizing" our politicians. At first it was just very mild...but now it has escalated to a point that is annoying. You are right...it will be sad...this was a nice forum.

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:21 am

sunny104;1083488 wrote: I've noticed that it's becoming worse too. But when we complain we're told that "it's not you it's your politicians" or that we have no sense of humor.

The constant digs are getting tiring. It'll be sad to start losing members over it.

Yeah, and those of us that do hang around find ourselves left with threads asking folks what's for breakfast, unless we want the same crap flung at us in any discussion about ourselves..

BTW Jimbo, I'm reading this thread as a serious one and would appreciate you treating it the same or at least playing somewhere else.:-6

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:22 am

jimbo;1083501 wrote: so if i have pretty much posted blair/bush war thoughts

that makes me anti british i take it :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

who won the bloody boston tea party anyway you limey's :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

and another thing your goeff hurst goal in the 1966 world cup final was not over the line :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

ooops i may of gone too far :-3:-3

You have pretty clearly shown us what you are about. All the laughing smilies does not change it. We see it for what it is.

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:25 am

flopstock;1083502 wrote: Yeah, and those of us that do hang around find ourselves left with threads asking folks what's for breakfast, unless we want the same crap flung at us in any discussion about ourselves..

BTW Jimbo, I'm reading this thread as a serious one and would appreciate you treating it the same or at least playing somewhere else.:-6

You ripped the words right off my keyboard. Yes I spent some time in the gardening thread....the household tips thread....but I like to discuss current events and politics. But there is no one left to discuss it with. So the long and the short of it is there are really only anti americanism topics disguised as current events.

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:26 am

jimbo;1083494 wrote: i'm not anti USA

who is ...

names i want names :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

i feel like your all sending pm's to each other saying i'm anti american :p:p:p

Jimbo, we're talking in general here. Nothing against you. And, anyway I have never talked about someone here behind their back. If someone makes me cranky I deal with it right then and there and move on.

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:32 am

I'm going to go around making digs at every non-American. Let's see how you all like it.

Lenn · Post by **Lenn** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:40 am

sunny104;1083519 wrote: I'm going to go around making digs at every non-American. Let's see how you all like it.

Revenge is sweet... isn't it? Revenge is what Americans like best, forgetting so often 'bout their christian roots.

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:44 am

Lenn;1083526 wrote: Revenge is sweet... isn't it? Revenge is what Americans like best, forgetting so often 'bout their christian roots.

This is a nasty, hostile remark. All Americans are not any particular way or type. You are making a blanket statement about a vast group of people. This is hatred.

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:57 am

Lenn;1083526 wrote: Revenge is sweet... isn't it? Revenge is what Americans like best, forgetting so often 'bout their christian roots.

yep, no anti-Americanism around here at all....:rolleyes:

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:00 am

sunny104;1083538 wrote: yep, no anti-Americanism around here at all....:rolleyes:

Nope no anti americanism.....we just have no sense of humor thats all. We just take things too personal thats all.

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:17 am

Lenn;1083526 wrote: Revenge is sweet... isn't it? Revenge is what Americans like best, forgetting so often 'bout their christian roots.

Sure and you may be an *******, that doesn't mean I need to point it out constantly, just because I think it may be helpful to you..that would be rude, if I did something like that..:-6

and speaking of ********, have you kissed an american one lately? if not, let me be the first to offer up my big fat agnostic one..

Imladris · Post by **Imladris** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:47 am

wildhorses;1083458 wrote: This site is awash in anti americanism. I was wrong about you. You are showing your true colors now. A veiled insult. hmmmm. What for? What is the point?

Stick around and read more of Jimbo's posts - he's not anti-anything or anyone unless there is a bloody good reason for it, he's anti-cruelty, anti-abuse, anti-intolerance but never have I seen him be anti-American, that's far too sweeping a statement to apply to him.

wildhorses;1083503 wrote: You have pretty clearly shown us what you are about. All the laughing smilies does not change it. We see it for what it is.

He's a buffoon, but harmless, he likes to make people laugh, lighten the mood, have fun usually at his own expense.

wildhorses;1083529 wrote: This is a nasty, hostile remark. All Americans are not any particular way or type. You are making a blanket statement about a vast group of people. This is hatred.

But surely the implication within this thread is that if you're not American you're going to be anti-American - that makes me feel rather uncomfortable.

Since I've been on this forum I've become rather pro-American, through taking the time to talk with our American members. I've come to realise that there are differences between our cultures, our outlook on life, lifestyle, diet, cars, government, patriotism etc etc but I think they should be celebrated and embraced.

It would be a sad day for FG if it degenerates into people talking to only people like themselves from the same country - how boring it would be.

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:55 am

Imladris;1083579 wrote: Stick around and read more of Jimbo's posts - he's not anti-anything or anyone unless there is a bloody good reason for it, he's anti-cruelty, anti-abuse, anti-intolerance but never have I seen him be anti-American, that's far too sweeping a statement to apply to him.

He's a buffoon, but harmless, he likes to make people laugh, lighten the mood, have fun usually at his own expense.

But surely the implication within this thread is that if you're not American you're going to be anti-American - that makes me feel rather uncomfortable.

Since I've been on this forum I've become rather pro-American, through taking the time to talk with our American members. I've come to realise that there are differences between our cultures, our outlook on life, lifestyle, diet, cars, government, patriotism etc etc but I think they should be celebrated and embraced.

It would be a sad day for FG if it degenerates into people talking to only people like themselves from the same country - how boring it would be.

There is no such implication that non amercians are anti american. I have read plenty of his posts to know where he is coming from. Many of his posts are very hostile. This is not due to a cultural difference. I go to many other sites with people from other cultures. This site, lately, has become very anti american...one dig after another. It use to be a very friendly site. Some members are not posting here right now. I notice many have not been here. If you think he is not anti american then I think you should go read some more of his posts.

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:05 am

jimbo;1083593 wrote: i'm not anti american at all in any way

there must be another jimbo in a parallell fg posting in my name :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

if any one can pull up a post that i say i dont like americans then i'll give hem all my casino money (not the jokey ones though):D:D

You have been very hostile and nasty. Of course you have not said you dont like americans, but your hostility shows it all. You can try to squeeze out of it but you have shown who you are and how you are. Go back and look at your posts. If you cant see it, then that is your problem....and it will continue to be your problem because people dont like others who are hostile.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:07 am

jimbo;1083593 wrote: i'm not anti american at all in any way

there must be another jimbo in a parallell fg posting in my name :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

if any one can pull up a post that i say i dont like americans then i'll give hem all my casino money (not the jokey ones though):D:D
I'll have to say, I pretty much read all of Jimbo's posts and I have never considered one single post to be anti american. There are a few on here that are very anti-american but Jimbo is not one of them. Wild if you have taken offense to any of Jimbo's posts then you have just mis-understood his humor. Jimbo is one of the good guys. The ones that are very anti-american are actually rather amusing to me.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:11 am

wildhorses;1083598 wrote: You have been very hostile and nasty. Of course you have not said you dont like americans, but your hostility shows it all. You can try to squeeze out of it but you have shown who you are and how you are. Go back and look at your posts. If you cant see it, then that is your problem....and it will continue to be your problem because people dont like others who are hostile.
I respectfully disagree Wild. He may be anti Iraq war but that doesn't mean he is anti U.S. I feel sometimes his humor doesn't translate across the pond sometimes (although I seem to get his humor). Wild we don't need to make enemies where there are none. We have plenty of them that are quite noticable without even trying to look.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:12 am

Cup of tea any one ??

:yh_coffee:yh_coffee:yh_flag:yh_flag:yh_flag

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:13 am

jimbo;1083601 wrote: ooops i take it all back i'm reporting this hostile post :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
Fianally, I've always wanted to be reported. I'll take the caneing over the Mod strike please.

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:14 am

YZGI;1083599 wrote: I'll have to say, I pretty much read all of Jimbo's posts and I have never considered one single post to be anti american. There are a few on here that are very anti-american but Jimbo is not one of them. Wild if you have taken offense to any of Jimbo's posts then you have just mis-understood his humor. Jimbo is one of the good guys. The ones that are very anti-american are actually rather amusing to me.

I am glad that you have never experienced the hostility that I did in my recent conversation with him. I did not have the same experience as you have had. And to tell you the truth this was the first time I had that experience with him. But for some reason he decided to get to be a jerk. I have not misunderstood his humor. That was not humor.....not anywhere close to it. It began when I disagreed with him...then he got hostile. And yes I know there are others even worse on this forum.

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:16 am

Jimbo is an idiot.. that doesn't make him anti american, IMO:-4. My only issue with Jimbo in this thread is that in attempting to turn accountables thread into another one of his one liner threads, he has finally gotten on my last nerve.

I take it very seriously that we've lost most American members who are interested in a discussion of political, social and economic issues. Hell, I gave up discussing it ages ago. There is simply no point... it can't be done without getting crapped on every frickin' time, without exception... no real discussion, just another crap-fest on America..

I see Accountable head out and I can recall my own need to move away from here for a while.. I had quit feeling like it was MY home too..

It just wasn't worth the effort anymore..

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:17 am

I'm not going to protest weather i am anti-american or not... I don't have to.

There are many many threads on here (mostly posted by myself) about British politics or Gordon Brown. Most times i post them i ask for American's to join in because it seems that you steer clear of them and i only end up talking to the leprechaun in Ireland or the Haggis botherer in Scotland.

I would like to hear what America thinks of the way our country is going also but it's only a handfull that come on these threads.

If this forum has been damaged, it is down to Tossers like Touchstone deliberately flaming and that's why he got banned.

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:26 am

flopstock;1083606 wrote: Jimbo is an idiot.. that doesn't make him anti american, IMO:-4. My only issue with Jimbo in this thread is that in attempting to turn accountables thread into another one of his one liner threads, he has finally gotten on my last nerve.

I take it very seriously that we've lost most American members who are interested in a discussion of political, social and economic issues. Hell, I gave up discussing it ages ago. There is simply no point... it can't be done without getting crapped on every frickin' time, without exception... no real discussion, just another crap-fest on America..

I see Accountable head out and I can recall my own need to move away from here for a while.. I had quit feeling like it was MY home too..

It just wasn't worth the effort anymore..

Actually I dont think I ever said that he was anti american....just very hostile to my opinion, which is different than his. And I told him so. But his hostility gets him thrown in with the other hostiles that are anti american....since there has been so much of it lately. This forum was not like this until just lately.

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:43 am

oscar;1083607 wrote: I'm not going to protest weather i am anti-american or not... I don't have to.

There are many many threads on here (mostly posted by myself) about British politics or Gordon Brown. Most times i post them i ask for American's to join in because it seems that you steer clear of them and i only end up talking to the leprechaun in Ireland or the Haggis botherer in Scotland.

I would like to hear what America thinks of the way our country is going also but it's only a handfull that come on these threads.

If this forum has been damaged, it is down to Tossers like Touchstone deliberately flaming and that's why he got banned.

Yes the touchstone thread was awful....very very hostile. But it was kind of like that before, just not so bad as now. I dont mind slugging it out if I meet someone who does not agree with me. This is obvious since I keep debating Spot. But many arent going to because there is so much hostility towards Americans or towards any difference of opinion. Some dont want to deal with that...they back out.

Americans and British think different. We can accept that....and I do like a good spar once in awhile, I dont mind. But it has gotten to the point of nastieness that is beyond what is acceptable to almost anyone....even me....and I am a die hard, so I can understand why they dont want to participate. Anyway, just putting it out there.

Many times it is the tone, like anger that can put people off. There is no reason to get angry and abusive because someone has a different opinion and stands their ground.

There are some definite digs at Americans on this forum though. That gets tiring, although I am always poised to slap back, but lately it is far too often to be acceptable. I dont mean that people should not express their true opinion, but there are a thousand ways to say something. And there is no reason for personal or "national" digs.....especially constantly all the way through a debate.

And I am not saying there should be no criticism of our government or country as I can see plenty wrong with it. But there is specific criticism on specific topics...and then there is bashing which is far more general and all inclusive.