"A letter arrives stamped with the slogan 'The U.s. Army, key to peace." No army is the key to peace, neither the U.S. Army nor the Soviet Army nor any other. No 'great' nation has the key to anything but war. Power has nothing to do with peace. The more men build up military power, the more they violate peace and destroy it."
Thomas Merton.
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But that's life! We can't wish all wars to go away. Why? Because there is bad in this world. Fortunately there is also good in this world. You can't get rid of government because people are too dumb! anarchy would drive this world to insanity... not that it isn't.
Smoke signals ftw!
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Omni:-6
You are correct. However, its being going on for thousands of years and hasn't worked yet.
It's kind of like a persistent headache for which you keep taking aspirine but never goes away. Eventually you try a different medication. If one thing doesn't work then we usually try something else.
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Ted:-6
You are correct. However, its being going on for thousands of years and hasn't worked yet.
It's kind of like a persistent headache for which you keep taking aspirine but never goes away. Eventually you try a different medication. If one thing doesn't work then we usually try something else.
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are you saying there are different methods then what we are using to obtain peace?
Smoke signals ftw!
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Omni:-6
That is what I am saying. All of the world's great faiths began on two tenets; justice and compassion. It would take a lot of work and could not be done overnight.
All we have to do is look at the world today. There is not nearly enough justice and compassion. In my own country it is sadly lacking. We have folks living in poverty. We have thousands of children that go to school hungry every day. We have a serious drug problem especially in the downtown east side of Vancouver. We have the mentally ill living on the streets. What do we do about it? We attack the symptoms and not the causes.
How so? People without a decent chance at life either because of poor upbringing or upbringing in poverty cannot get a decent job that makes it worth their while so perhaps they turn to sitting around on a street corner. Then they get into drugs which costs money. To get that money they turn to illegal acts. These illegal acts cause all kinds of problems for society so we hire more police who either move them along or arrest them.
Where do they move along to? They are arrested to what end; jail for a few days? They are out on the streets again. Their cycle starts all over. If they have children the cycle carries on and on and on.
Of course there are some bad folks. Some are out to make money for drugs? Some are members or organized crime.
If we had a just and compassionate society most of that would end. Those who still choose to behave unacceptably could be easily dealt with.
Consider Al Quaeda. Why and how did they come into existence. I could hazard a guess. Why was Iraq invaded. Sadam? Who put Sadam in power? Why did they put him in power? Perhaps they thought it would be easier and more certain to gain access to the oil? Muslim law says attack but only if attacked first? I think you get the picture.
Who put the Taliban in power or Maros, or Noriega? Why were they put into power? The self serving interests of an imperial nation?
China has also pronounced that they will get the resources they need even if they have to resort to military might. Another imperial power?
Castro defeated a very corrupt dictator on the right. He has been hated by the US ever since. Then we had the Bay of Pigs fiasco. I guess dictators are OK as long as they are on the right and not the left. So much for the claims of democracy. It is pure BS.
Chevez of Venezuela has threatened to cut of its oil shipments to the US. Does that mean another invasion is immanent?
If we start by looking at the causes and dealing with them we will have started on the road to peace. This begins in the hearts of individuals and should then spread wider as the parable of the mustard seed tells us.
Shalom
Ted:-6
That is what I am saying. All of the world's great faiths began on two tenets; justice and compassion. It would take a lot of work and could not be done overnight.
All we have to do is look at the world today. There is not nearly enough justice and compassion. In my own country it is sadly lacking. We have folks living in poverty. We have thousands of children that go to school hungry every day. We have a serious drug problem especially in the downtown east side of Vancouver. We have the mentally ill living on the streets. What do we do about it? We attack the symptoms and not the causes.
How so? People without a decent chance at life either because of poor upbringing or upbringing in poverty cannot get a decent job that makes it worth their while so perhaps they turn to sitting around on a street corner. Then they get into drugs which costs money. To get that money they turn to illegal acts. These illegal acts cause all kinds of problems for society so we hire more police who either move them along or arrest them.
Where do they move along to? They are arrested to what end; jail for a few days? They are out on the streets again. Their cycle starts all over. If they have children the cycle carries on and on and on.
Of course there are some bad folks. Some are out to make money for drugs? Some are members or organized crime.
If we had a just and compassionate society most of that would end. Those who still choose to behave unacceptably could be easily dealt with.
Consider Al Quaeda. Why and how did they come into existence. I could hazard a guess. Why was Iraq invaded. Sadam? Who put Sadam in power? Why did they put him in power? Perhaps they thought it would be easier and more certain to gain access to the oil? Muslim law says attack but only if attacked first? I think you get the picture.
Who put the Taliban in power or Maros, or Noriega? Why were they put into power? The self serving interests of an imperial nation?
China has also pronounced that they will get the resources they need even if they have to resort to military might. Another imperial power?
Castro defeated a very corrupt dictator on the right. He has been hated by the US ever since. Then we had the Bay of Pigs fiasco. I guess dictators are OK as long as they are on the right and not the left. So much for the claims of democracy. It is pure BS.
Chevez of Venezuela has threatened to cut of its oil shipments to the US. Does that mean another invasion is immanent?
If we start by looking at the causes and dealing with them we will have started on the road to peace. This begins in the hearts of individuals and should then spread wider as the parable of the mustard seed tells us.
Shalom
Ted:-6
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We will know. Is it attainable? I think it is in the distant future but only when we make the effort to bring about justice and compassion and not before.
Shalom
Ted:-6
We will know. Is it attainable? I think it is in the distant future but only when we make the effort to bring about justice and compassion and not before.
Shalom
Ted:-6
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Ted;788564 wrote: Omni:-6
That is what I am saying. All of the world's great faiths began on two tenets; justice and compassion. It would take a lot of work and could not be done overnight.
All we have to do is look at the world today. There is not nearly enough justice and compassion. In my own country it is sadly lacking. We have folks living in poverty. We have thousands of children that go to school hungry every day. We have a serious drug problem especially in the downtown east side of Vancouver. We have the mentally ill living on the streets. What do we do about it? We attack the symptoms and not the causes.
How so? People without a decent chance at life either because of poor upbringing or upbringing in poverty cannot get a decent job that makes it worth their while so perhaps they turn to sitting around on a street corner. Then they get into drugs which costs money. To get that money they turn to illegal acts. These illegal acts cause all kinds of problems for society so we hire more police who either move them along or arrest them.
Where do they move along to? They are arrested to what end; jail for a few days? They are out on the streets again. Their cycle starts all over. If they have children the cycle carries on and on and on.
Of course there are some bad folks. Some are out to make money for drugs? Some are members or organized crime.
If we had a just and compassionate society most of that would end. Those who still choose to behave unacceptably could be easily dealt with.
Consider Al Quaeda. Why and how did they come into existence. I could hazard a guess. Why was Iraq invaded. Sadam? Who put Sadam in power? Why did they put him in power? Perhaps they thought it would be easier and more certain to gain access to the oil? Muslim law says attack but only if attacked first? I think you get the picture.
Who put the Taliban in power or Maros, or Noriega? Why were they put into power? The self serving interests of an imperial nation?
China has also pronounced that they will get the resources they need even if they have to resort to military might. Another imperial power?
Castro defeated a very corrupt dictator on the right. He has been hated by the US ever since. Then we had the Bay of Pigs fiasco. I guess dictators are OK as long as they are on the right and not the left. So much for the claims of democracy. It is pure BS.
Chevez of Venezuela has threatened to cut of its oil shipments to the US. Does that mean another invasion is immanent?
If we start by looking at the causes and dealing with them we will have started on the road to peace. This begins in the hearts of individuals and should then spread wider as the parable of the mustard seed tells us.
Shalom
Ted:-6
This is the key, I feel sure, Ted
That is what I am saying. All of the world's great faiths began on two tenets; justice and compassion. It would take a lot of work and could not be done overnight.
All we have to do is look at the world today. There is not nearly enough justice and compassion. In my own country it is sadly lacking. We have folks living in poverty. We have thousands of children that go to school hungry every day. We have a serious drug problem especially in the downtown east side of Vancouver. We have the mentally ill living on the streets. What do we do about it? We attack the symptoms and not the causes.
How so? People without a decent chance at life either because of poor upbringing or upbringing in poverty cannot get a decent job that makes it worth their while so perhaps they turn to sitting around on a street corner. Then they get into drugs which costs money. To get that money they turn to illegal acts. These illegal acts cause all kinds of problems for society so we hire more police who either move them along or arrest them.
Where do they move along to? They are arrested to what end; jail for a few days? They are out on the streets again. Their cycle starts all over. If they have children the cycle carries on and on and on.
Of course there are some bad folks. Some are out to make money for drugs? Some are members or organized crime.
If we had a just and compassionate society most of that would end. Those who still choose to behave unacceptably could be easily dealt with.
Consider Al Quaeda. Why and how did they come into existence. I could hazard a guess. Why was Iraq invaded. Sadam? Who put Sadam in power? Why did they put him in power? Perhaps they thought it would be easier and more certain to gain access to the oil? Muslim law says attack but only if attacked first? I think you get the picture.
Who put the Taliban in power or Maros, or Noriega? Why were they put into power? The self serving interests of an imperial nation?
China has also pronounced that they will get the resources they need even if they have to resort to military might. Another imperial power?
Castro defeated a very corrupt dictator on the right. He has been hated by the US ever since. Then we had the Bay of Pigs fiasco. I guess dictators are OK as long as they are on the right and not the left. So much for the claims of democracy. It is pure BS.
Chevez of Venezuela has threatened to cut of its oil shipments to the US. Does that mean another invasion is immanent?
If we start by looking at the causes and dealing with them we will have started on the road to peace. This begins in the hearts of individuals and should then spread wider as the parable of the mustard seed tells us.
Shalom
Ted:-6
This is the key, I feel sure, Ted
Live the questions now. Perhaps you will then gradually, without noticing it, live along some distant day into the answers...Rainer Maria Rilke
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Every day I see ads on TV for 'World Vision', Foster Parents Plan', the 'Canadian Leprosy Mission', the battle against aids, poverty in my own country. Yet in this world we have CEO's and retired CEOs and multinationals etc. making obscene profits. They try to assuage their consciences with token donations to some worthy cause.
Countries spend billions on weapons and spreading an atmosphere of terror. Yet within their own countries as well as around the world some of the money could be used to help these folks.
There is enough money and enough food produced in this world to feed everyone and generate a reasonable standard of living for them all. Some folks think they need millions a year to live on. They think they need two or three cars to drive. They drive cars and vehicles that are destroying our planet.
Having the best and most stable economy in the world won't be of any value if we are all dead or dying.
Greed runs rampant and the average Canadian sits back and watches.
Shalom
Ted:-6
Countries spend billions on weapons and spreading an atmosphere of terror. Yet within their own countries as well as around the world some of the money could be used to help these folks.
There is enough money and enough food produced in this world to feed everyone and generate a reasonable standard of living for them all. Some folks think they need millions a year to live on. They think they need two or three cars to drive. They drive cars and vehicles that are destroying our planet.
Having the best and most stable economy in the world won't be of any value if we are all dead or dying.
Greed runs rampant and the average Canadian sits back and watches.
Shalom
Ted:-6
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JAB:-6
Jesus tried to tell us that 2100 years ago and so far no one has listened. He referred to it as the Kingdom of God. Good grief the Chinese tried to tell us 6500 years ago.
It is a kingdom where God, justice and compassion are the norm. Here I am not referring to the Christian God but the One Absolute Reality. It is an egalitarian kingdom where everyone's normal needs are met. It is a kingdom where there is no poverty. It is a kingdom of humility and striving for the best for all of mankind.
Is it possible? Sure it is. We need to start with ourselves and we need to end poverty and violence. We need as individuals and nations to look to the plank in our own eye and reach out to others without judgment. We need to end or destroy greed.
If there is anything we learn from history it is that we learn nothing from history. We keep repeating the same mistakes over and over and over etc.
Shalom
Ted:-6
Jesus tried to tell us that 2100 years ago and so far no one has listened. He referred to it as the Kingdom of God. Good grief the Chinese tried to tell us 6500 years ago.
It is a kingdom where God, justice and compassion are the norm. Here I am not referring to the Christian God but the One Absolute Reality. It is an egalitarian kingdom where everyone's normal needs are met. It is a kingdom where there is no poverty. It is a kingdom of humility and striving for the best for all of mankind.
Is it possible? Sure it is. We need to start with ourselves and we need to end poverty and violence. We need as individuals and nations to look to the plank in our own eye and reach out to others without judgment. We need to end or destroy greed.
If there is anything we learn from history it is that we learn nothing from history. We keep repeating the same mistakes over and over and over etc.
Shalom
Ted:-6
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Why not? It is the way we are commanded to go. If the world is a much better and safer place to live fewer peace officers will be needed. They will be able to deal with the few who do not behave appropriately.
Can we any longer afford not to?
Shalom
Ted:-6
Why not? It is the way we are commanded to go. If the world is a much better and safer place to live fewer peace officers will be needed. They will be able to deal with the few who do not behave appropriately.
Can we any longer afford not to?
Shalom
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Ted;788564 wrote: Omni:-6
That is what I am saying. All of the world's great faiths began on two tenets; justice and compassion. It would take a lot of work and could not be done overnight.
All we have to do is look at the world today. There is not nearly enough justice and compassion. In my own country it is sadly lacking. We have folks living in poverty. We have thousands of children that go to school hungry every day. We have a serious drug problem especially in the downtown east side of Vancouver. We have the mentally ill living on the streets. What do we do about it? We attack the symptoms and not the causes.
How so? People without a decent chance at life either because of poor upbringing or upbringing in poverty cannot get a decent job that makes it worth their while so perhaps they turn to sitting around on a street corner. Then they get into drugs which costs money. To get that money they turn to illegal acts. These illegal acts cause all kinds of problems for society so we hire more police who either move them along or arrest them.
Where do they move along to? They are arrested to what end; jail for a few days? They are out on the streets again. Their cycle starts all over. If they have children the cycle carries on and on and on.
Of course there are some bad folks. Some are out to make money for drugs? Some are members or organized crime.
If we had a just and compassionate society most of that would end. Those who still choose to behave unacceptably could be easily dealt with.
Consider Al Quaeda. Why and how did they come into existence. I could hazard a guess. Why was Iraq invaded. Sadam? Who put Sadam in power? Why did they put him in power? Perhaps they thought it would be easier and more certain to gain access to the oil? Muslim law says attack but only if attacked first? I think you get the picture.
Who put the Taliban in power or Maros, or Noriega? Why were they put into power? The self serving interests of an imperial nation?
China has also pronounced that they will get the resources they need even if they have to resort to military might. Another imperial power?
Castro defeated a very corrupt dictator on the right. He has been hated by the US ever since. Then we had the Bay of Pigs fiasco. I guess dictators are OK as long as they are on the right and not the left. So much for the claims of democracy. It is pure BS.
Chevez of Venezuela has threatened to cut of its oil shipments to the US. Does that mean another invasion is immanent?
If we start by looking at the causes and dealing with them we will have started on the road to peace. This begins in the hearts of individuals and should then spread wider as the parable of the mustard seed tells us.
Shalom
Ted:-6Can the answer really be that easy? I'm assuming to sum this all up you're saying to deal with the causes. I understand that this can be done individually... but how do you suppose a government can if it has so many different agendas? I think peace can only be obtained through God.
That is what I am saying. All of the world's great faiths began on two tenets; justice and compassion. It would take a lot of work and could not be done overnight.
All we have to do is look at the world today. There is not nearly enough justice and compassion. In my own country it is sadly lacking. We have folks living in poverty. We have thousands of children that go to school hungry every day. We have a serious drug problem especially in the downtown east side of Vancouver. We have the mentally ill living on the streets. What do we do about it? We attack the symptoms and not the causes.
How so? People without a decent chance at life either because of poor upbringing or upbringing in poverty cannot get a decent job that makes it worth their while so perhaps they turn to sitting around on a street corner. Then they get into drugs which costs money. To get that money they turn to illegal acts. These illegal acts cause all kinds of problems for society so we hire more police who either move them along or arrest them.
Where do they move along to? They are arrested to what end; jail for a few days? They are out on the streets again. Their cycle starts all over. If they have children the cycle carries on and on and on.
Of course there are some bad folks. Some are out to make money for drugs? Some are members or organized crime.
If we had a just and compassionate society most of that would end. Those who still choose to behave unacceptably could be easily dealt with.
Consider Al Quaeda. Why and how did they come into existence. I could hazard a guess. Why was Iraq invaded. Sadam? Who put Sadam in power? Why did they put him in power? Perhaps they thought it would be easier and more certain to gain access to the oil? Muslim law says attack but only if attacked first? I think you get the picture.
Who put the Taliban in power or Maros, or Noriega? Why were they put into power? The self serving interests of an imperial nation?
China has also pronounced that they will get the resources they need even if they have to resort to military might. Another imperial power?
Castro defeated a very corrupt dictator on the right. He has been hated by the US ever since. Then we had the Bay of Pigs fiasco. I guess dictators are OK as long as they are on the right and not the left. So much for the claims of democracy. It is pure BS.
Chevez of Venezuela has threatened to cut of its oil shipments to the US. Does that mean another invasion is immanent?
If we start by looking at the causes and dealing with them we will have started on the road to peace. This begins in the hearts of individuals and should then spread wider as the parable of the mustard seed tells us.
Shalom
Ted:-6Can the answer really be that easy? I'm assuming to sum this all up you're saying to deal with the causes. I understand that this can be done individually... but how do you suppose a government can if it has so many different agendas? I think peace can only be obtained through God.
Smoke signals ftw!
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Omni_Skittles;788594 wrote: Can the answer really be that easy? I'm assuming to sum this all up you're saying to deal with the causes. I understand that this can be done individually... but how do you suppose a government can if it has so many different agendas? I think peace can only be obtained through God.and yet for some reason through our perception and the use of God do we have wars... and no peace.
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Jester;788596 wrote: So long as the heart of man is wicked, there will be no peace, the best we can hope for between now and Christs return is to act on pure motives to meet the needs of the innocent, and punish or correct the guilty.
Since the heart of man is basically greedy and man has demonstrated that he cannot be peaceful, then there will be no complete and lasting peace.
It is therefore necessary to enforce common laws and go to war as necessary to protect the level of peace in a nation who has common law.
The only true peace on this earth is given by God through Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.
That peace is not a freedom from war or persecution its a peace that says no matter what I am content in Him.
There will never be peace on this earth until after God destroys it and re-establishes his Kingdom on it.Isn't there a different way to approach this?
You're right though because we are born with sin naturally peace and all perfection no longer will exist til Christ does return.
Since the heart of man is basically greedy and man has demonstrated that he cannot be peaceful, then there will be no complete and lasting peace.
It is therefore necessary to enforce common laws and go to war as necessary to protect the level of peace in a nation who has common law.
The only true peace on this earth is given by God through Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.
That peace is not a freedom from war or persecution its a peace that says no matter what I am content in Him.
There will never be peace on this earth until after God destroys it and re-establishes his Kingdom on it.Isn't there a different way to approach this?
You're right though because we are born with sin naturally peace and all perfection no longer will exist til Christ does return.
Smoke signals ftw!
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Omni:-6
It will be difficult but it can be done. Can we afford not to?
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Ted:-6
It will be difficult but it can be done. Can we afford not to?
Shalom
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Ted;788604 wrote: Omni:-6
It will be difficult but it can be done. Can we afford not to?
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Ted:-6Everything looks so easy written out! It's just too bad it wouldn't work! Like communism! it works... on paper... but get imperfect humans to act it out and something always goes wrong!
It will be difficult but it can be done. Can we afford not to?
Shalom
Ted:-6Everything looks so easy written out! It's just too bad it wouldn't work! Like communism! it works... on paper... but get imperfect humans to act it out and something always goes wrong!
Smoke signals ftw!
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jester:-6
Meeting the needs of the innocent is so far from the teachings of Jesus as to be in another universe.
We have poverty in our country. Don't you have poverty in yours? Is America so pure as to have no poverty?
Shalom
Ted:-6
Meeting the needs of the innocent is so far from the teachings of Jesus as to be in another universe.
We have poverty in our country. Don't you have poverty in yours? Is America so pure as to have no poverty?
Shalom
Ted:-6
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Omni:-6
First of all the idea of original sin is nonsense.
Once again I ask "Can we afford not to"? As long as we all sit around and say we can't do this we will never start. A mile walk begins with the first step.
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Ted:-6
First of all the idea of original sin is nonsense.
Once again I ask "Can we afford not to"? As long as we all sit around and say we can't do this we will never start. A mile walk begins with the first step.
Shalom
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Ted;788608 wrote: Omni:-6
First of all the idea of original sin is nonsense.
Once again I ask "Can we afford not to"? As long as we all sit around and say we can't do this we will never start. A mile walk begins with the first step.
Shalom
Ted:-6elaborate on that please lol
I agree it's all possible i mean anything is possible... with God. l
First of all the idea of original sin is nonsense.
Once again I ask "Can we afford not to"? As long as we all sit around and say we can't do this we will never start. A mile walk begins with the first step.
Shalom
Ted:-6elaborate on that please lol
I agree it's all possible i mean anything is possible... with God. l
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Jester;788610 wrote: I'm not one to squelch the idea, but its been roughly 7000 years, and at best we've only had pockets of peace. I few minutes of time if 7000 years was a 24 hour clock.
The best approach is by God to individual hearts, but man has so far corrupted what God originally designed and belives so much of his own deluded lie that I do not believe we will see a peace movement till his return. It doesnt negate the fact that some will believe and be saved in the process, those persons alwasy have peace in the heart.
It is entirely possible to keep peace, and live in peace and be engaged in total and actual mortal combat at the same time. It depends on which side your fighting for.
so you're saying as long as you're fighting and killing people for a good cause it's okay?
The best approach is by God to individual hearts, but man has so far corrupted what God originally designed and belives so much of his own deluded lie that I do not believe we will see a peace movement till his return. It doesnt negate the fact that some will believe and be saved in the process, those persons alwasy have peace in the heart.
It is entirely possible to keep peace, and live in peace and be engaged in total and actual mortal combat at the same time. It depends on which side your fighting for.
so you're saying as long as you're fighting and killing people for a good cause it's okay?
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Jester;788666 wrote: I'm saying that if we fight to protect the innocent then we are on the right side, and war is sometimes necessary to achieve that.
Here is an example. If I were your father, and some one broke into our home, and was dragging you out to do God knows what, Its my responsibility to protect you by fighting him off, or killiing him if necessary to stop him forom harming you.
It is a peace loving society that allows that action of protecting ones own family by force.
If as a nation we are attacked it is our responsibility to act in the same manner, that is also a peaceful society, we love peace enough to enforce it. We charish it, that which a man cherishes he protects. Protecting ones family is an act of love.
The action of love is what sets in motion the use of force to protect and cherish our loved ones. It is not a rational thought, its an innate action based on our most basic emotions.See i agree with that. lol why else would i want to join the army! hahahaha because there is not peace now... you can only choose if you're going to fight for the good or bad! lol
Here is an example. If I were your father, and some one broke into our home, and was dragging you out to do God knows what, Its my responsibility to protect you by fighting him off, or killiing him if necessary to stop him forom harming you.
It is a peace loving society that allows that action of protecting ones own family by force.
If as a nation we are attacked it is our responsibility to act in the same manner, that is also a peaceful society, we love peace enough to enforce it. We charish it, that which a man cherishes he protects. Protecting ones family is an act of love.
The action of love is what sets in motion the use of force to protect and cherish our loved ones. It is not a rational thought, its an innate action based on our most basic emotions.See i agree with that. lol why else would i want to join the army! hahahaha because there is not peace now... you can only choose if you're going to fight for the good or bad! lol
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Jester;788696 wrote: Skittles you may want to think it through carefully, joining th army obligates you to fight any and all wars the US enters, you may find yourself on the wrong side of right, possibly.But America is ALWAYS right... did you not know? all else fails there's always Canada.
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Jester;788705 wrote: I've picked out South Korea as my fall back country!
But I'm not givin up yet!
I figure even if the country falls I can still back into my land and defend and protect it an my way of life.
But I dont expect america to fall for years, I'll be gone by then thats for sure, probably long gone.
wait that means i will be stuck living in the fallen America. It freaks me out that every great Power Country eventually comes to a fail. It's in history EVERYWHERE and history tends to repeat itself... so i think were do for a fall soon! crud... lol my fallback country would be china... haha
But I'm not givin up yet!
I figure even if the country falls I can still back into my land and defend and protect it an my way of life.
But I dont expect america to fall for years, I'll be gone by then thats for sure, probably long gone.
wait that means i will be stuck living in the fallen America. It freaks me out that every great Power Country eventually comes to a fail. It's in history EVERYWHERE and history tends to repeat itself... so i think were do for a fall soon! crud... lol my fallback country would be china... haha
Smoke signals ftw!
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Jester;788710 wrote: oh a missionary eh!
:wah:
All government will fail, it is inevitable, I think america was the first country to get it the 'rightest', we're far from excellent, because at our base is humanity!
I'm sure just posring that America is the rightest, will have repurcussions, here, but I think our form of government is the best around, the corruption is what brings down every free government.
lol i did originally want to become a missionary! weird... i felt for a long time God had called me to China. then i got to bible college and i realized i like to make movies... maybe i should double major just in case God sends me another way... kinda like he always does... oh peace...
peace is good.
:wah:
All government will fail, it is inevitable, I think america was the first country to get it the 'rightest', we're far from excellent, because at our base is humanity!
I'm sure just posring that America is the rightest, will have repurcussions, here, but I think our form of government is the best around, the corruption is what brings down every free government.
lol i did originally want to become a missionary! weird... i felt for a long time God had called me to China. then i got to bible college and i realized i like to make movies... maybe i should double major just in case God sends me another way... kinda like he always does... oh peace...
peace is good.
Smoke signals ftw!
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jester:-6
Now I'm liar? Not worth responding to further.
Shalom
Ted:-6
Now I'm liar? Not worth responding to further.
Shalom
Ted:-6
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What is interesting is that one person's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.
Of course we will never have peace not as long as people continue to say it can't happen. As Christians we are obligated to try. We may not succeed but we are obligated to try.
Rome had and used its imperial power. Other countries seem to be doing the same thing today.
Shalom
Ted:-6
Of course we will never have peace not as long as people continue to say it can't happen. As Christians we are obligated to try. We may not succeed but we are obligated to try.
Rome had and used its imperial power. Other countries seem to be doing the same thing today.
Shalom
Ted:-6
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jester:-6
I got it. No problem. Sorry about that.
The idea of original sin is still a non starter.
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Ted:-6
I got it. No problem. Sorry about that.
The idea of original sin is still a non starter.
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Ted:-6
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rywould:-6
I agree whole heartedly.
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Ted:-6
I agree whole heartedly.
Shalom
Ted:-6
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JAB;788559 wrote: Is peace even attainable? How do we know when we've achieved it?
Of course peace is attainable - we, the people, have to say no to war.
Of course peace is attainable - we, the people, have to say no to war.
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JAB;788591 wrote: Much like there is no such thing as full employment, I don't think there is such a thing as complete peace.
The only reason that we do not have full employment is that the government does not want full employment - risks increasing inflation.
Neither do they want peace - too much attention to what's going on at home.
The only reason that we do not have full employment is that the government does not want full employment - risks increasing inflation.
Neither do they want peace - too much attention to what's going on at home.