The Body

theia · Post by **theia** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:34 pm

What does your faith or belief say about the body?

So much of what we do seems to be solely concerned with our body, or someone's elses. Might this not seem strange when we talk so much about the soul or the spirit?

I am really interested in learning more. I have many reasons for this, and one reason that I may disclose at some point.

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:55 pm

theia:-6

I will have to give this some more thought. It seems to me that as part of God's creation our bodies are sacred. This does not mean that we are not to enjoy our bodies and our lives here on earth but it does that we are to treat our bodies with due respect. There is a divne spark within each of us. God dwells within.

Shalom

Ted:-6

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:04 pm

My belief says that my body is mine. No one has a right to invade it. I can decide who helps me, that is my right. I might decide God will be my friend and helper or I might decide my neighbour is that person. What ever I decide, my body is mine, I am its contoller, I am the one who will decide everything about it :-4

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:05 pm

ThePheasant:-6

I can go along with that.

Shalom

Ted:-6

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:12 pm

Theia, I believe that my sole will stay with me. I live my life, do the things I do. There is no end to this, I live with my decisions and choices in life, we make our own heaven or hell. We are our own judge :-4

mrsK · Post by **mrsK** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:26 pm

I believe that when I die.

My body goes back to dust,my soul has gone with my last breath.

I don't have a problem believing that.

I am happy that others have different beliefs.:-6

theia · Post by **theia** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:58 pm

Thank you, Ted, Pheasy and Mrsk.

One of the reasons I posted this thread is that my mother is in her mid eighties and, although she doesn't appear to be physically ill to any serious extent, she has lost interest in almost everything. She seems to have withdrawn into herself. She has been prescribed anti depressants, she has been offered counselling and, as a family, we have tried to encourage and support her, to help her get through. All to no avail...but, you know, in a strange way, and when I'm not feeling too emotional over the way she is, I can see her going through a mighty transition...a transition of "letting go." It seems like a dark night of the senses for her yet, just occasionally, there's a chink of light. Her body is aged and yet, there's life, a sort of "real" life. It seems sometimes that she wants to let go to this, but, understandably, she's afraid.

My mother and I have, at times, had a difficult relationship but I can feel closer to her just now. It's as if the difficulties we had were just to do with this physical existence. I can now glimpse more of the real soul she is, and this has nothing to do with the bodies that we are. When I can see her this way, she becomes a part of the wonder and mystery that I believe is God, and all the petty differences we had between us just fade, and I feel a profound love for her.

She has been in hospital several times over the past few months and I have to admit to feeling quite hopeless on my visits to her. I look around and see a ward full of older people, all suffering either mentally or physically, and, really, no longer an integral part of this busy world. Yet, when I allow myself to change my focus or my thinking, just a little, I can almost see a ward full of beauty, a room full of souls who are moving closer to the Divine. We clearly have bodies for a reason and I'm beginning to think that maybe life in this world is to realise that this isn't who we really are.

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 2:04 pm

theia:-6

Wonderful post.

Shalom

Ted:-6

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 2:21 pm

That is beautiful, Theia. I am glad for those moments of love with her, may you both have a blessed holiday season ahead.

mrsK · Post by **mrsK** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:49 pm

Enjoy the time you now have with her,there will be more loving moments.

God bless you both:-6

lemon_and_mint · Post by **lemon_and_mint** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:58 pm

Hello theia,

hope you are ok.

I am sorry to hear about your mother.

Without wishing to upset you in any way, care workers and hospital workers often say that the nearer a person is to death, if they are still conscious, they see what they describe as "wonder" in their eyes as the time approaches, I am sure there may be referces to this on the internet, it is very common, so it does make you wonder what it is that becomes clear in that moment.I think this different from the life flashing before the eyes which people experience when they have near death experiences.

I dont know what this signifies but all of us will find out one day.I hope it is something really nice.

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:24 pm

(((((Theia))))):-4.

My heart goes out to you. I had the same experiences with my mom also. Cherish the moments you have left with her and know that you've been a good daughter.