a brush with the god squad

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Fri May 18, 2007 1:43 pm

my best mate gatesey is very religious ,i'm not at all i really would love to believe but logic wont let me i just dont get it ,i try honest i do but it dont add up ,any way after promising to o to his church for ages i went , and boy did i really enjoy myself with some of the nicest most lovely people on earth , we had a game of cricket in the car park, ping pong ,darts,and pool not in the carpark soberano ,every one was so nice and when i left i turned to gatesey and i said buddy i really envy you your faith and you know what i really do :-6

el guapo · Post by **el guapo** » Fri May 18, 2007 1:46 pm

my son that was a pub

guppy · Post by **guppy** » Fri May 18, 2007 1:57 pm

I have been in alot of different churches...i have always fit right in....two years ago i visted a mormon church....everybody was nice as rain to me...but they kinda shunned my friends....could be because i had a dress on and they were women wearing pants and looking defiant to the max....:wah:

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Fri May 18, 2007 2:04 pm

Jimbo

You and your family have been through so much, and you try not to be bitter or have a attitude - but we do

theres nothing wrong trying to get inner peace - this will help you & Suzy through the tough BS.. I'm not pushing the Bible/religion on anyone, I don't attend, but there is inner peace & strength.

Love the God Squad, made me laugh.

Patsy

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Fri May 18, 2007 2:52 pm

Jimbo, I am glad that you had a good time. I have been a Christian for a long time. I've gone through the "Bertha Better than you" stages, and now I'm in "Love my God with all my heart and soul-and love others as he would" stage...I would never push my beliefs on anyone, I would encourage them to trust God.

I have a brother that has been through almost all of his 9 lives...we tease him about this...he's lived a HARD life. At the age of 44, he gave his life to the Lord, while locked up in jail. I realize people turn to God in hard times, and then don't follow through with it. However, my brother has managed to turn his life around in 6 short months. He started his own Karate school and has a good job..So happy for him and you too Jimbo...sorry to go off topic somewhat...it's what I do!!

Am I still fluffy??

Mia · Post by **Mia** » Fri May 18, 2007 3:08 pm

Hope you don't mind me adding my five eggs here Jimbo.I seem to be in the same place as you as far as believing in heaven etc.I also envy people who do believe as they seem to have an inner peace.I was sorry to read about your break up by the way.

I wish you all the best and everything works out for the both of you.

Mia

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Fri May 18, 2007 3:19 pm

Patsy Warnick;616269 wrote: Jimbo

You and your family have been through so much, and you try not to be bitter or have a attitude - but we do

theres nothing wrong trying to get inner peace - this will help you & Suzy through the tough BS.. I'm not pushing the Bible/religion on anyone, I don't attend, but there is inner peace & strength.

Love the God Squad, made me laugh.

Patsy
i hope i dont come across bitter patsy as i dont feel bitter at all ,i am only too aware that things could be a million times worse ,my girl sophie in the avatar had a lucky escape last year when she was run over ,sue nearly died as did chantelle ,things have been a touch unpleasant at times but i'm lucky really and i know it

WonderWendy3;616316 wrote: Jimbo, I am glad that you had a good time. I have been a Christian for a long time. I've gone through the "Bertha Better than you" stages, and now I'm in "Love my God with all my heart and soul-and love others as he would" stage...I would never push my beliefs on anyone, I would encourage them to trust God.

I have a brother that has been through almost all of his 9 lives...we tease him about this...he's lived a HARD life. At the age of 44, he gave his life to the Lord, while locked up in jail. I realize people turn to God in hard times, and then don't follow through with it. However, my brother has managed to turn his life around in 6 short months. He started his own Karate school and has a good job..So happy for him and you too Jimbo...sorry to go off topic somewhat...it's what I do!!

Am I still fluffy??

super fluffy

i know you wont get nasty ww so i will ask you ,how can you believe in an invisible god that if he exists lets terrible things happen to thousands of innocent people ,and the only possible evidence is a three thousand year olds book that no one even knows who wrote it :-3

Mia;616350 wrote: Hope you don't mind me adding my five eggs here Jimbo.I seem to be in the same place as you as far as believing in heaven etc.I also envy people who do believe as they seem to have an inner peace.I was sorry to read about your break up by the way.

I wish you all the best and everything works out for the both of you.

Mia

we are back together mia ,sue is not silly men like me dont grow on trees you know ,they swing from them :wah:

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Fri May 18, 2007 4:18 pm

i know you wont get nasty ww so i will ask you ,how can you believe in an invisible god that if he exists lets terrible things happen to thousands of innocent people ,and the only possible evidence is a three thousand year olds book that no one even knows who wrote it

My dearest Jimbo, those who believe in God know the answer to these questions. Is God invisible? I see the beauty of nature around, look into the night sky at the wonders, and know He createdit.

Terrible things that happen-the Bible says the "Rain falls on the just and the unjust." And it would have to be a very technical religious debate to go even further than that, which I will not do here.

Who wrote it? Ghee, we have know that since it was inspired from God-Matthew, Mark, Luke, John....they wrote what God told them to.

Do I rant and rave against God, because of what has happened to my husband? No. Do I wonder? Sure I do. But do I go ahead and do what needs to be done, the way God would want me to. Yes, I do. I know my husband would not be alive, if not for faith, God's love, and more.

You know I love you and Suzy lots and lots. I will not go into debate about my beliefs, but am glad you saw a side of them with your friend.:-4

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Fri May 18, 2007 5:00 pm

Jimbo

I didn't mean to imply you are bitter - your not - circumstances can make us bitter or develope a attitude.

No, when I think of Jimbo - I think of a big guy with a soft heart

Or I should say a Bald guy with a big heart of course

Patsy

Sweet Tooth · Post by **Sweet Tooth** » Fri May 18, 2007 5:21 pm

Good for you Jimbo! Some of us our nice! (not me right now because I am pregnant but most of the time I am!) It's hard to believe in something you can't see, but the more you believe, the more apparent He makes Himself to you. And P.S.- He has a sense of humor:D

Hugh Janus · Post by **Hugh Janus** » Sat May 19, 2007 12:20 am

Patsy Warnick;616471 wrote: when I think of Jimbo - I think of a big guy with a soft heart

Or I should say a Bald guy with a big heart of course

Patsy

Whenever I see a post from Jimbo. I think of a big bald heart, with a soft head...:wah:

Glad you have sorted your problems with Sue, Jimbo... :yh_peace

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Sat May 19, 2007 10:24 pm

jimbo;616374 wrote:

super fluffy

i know you wont get nasty ww so i will ask you ,how can you believe in an invisible god that if he exists lets terrible things happen to thousands of innocent people ,and the only possible evidence is a three thousand year olds book that no one even knows who wrote it :-3

I just saw this, and it's really late tonight when I'm answering this.

Chonsi said it very well...The Bible was written many years ago by the apostles and translated in different languages and passed down through the years, unfortunately this has been a stumbling block for many people. Once you believe, it doesn't become an issue actually. At least that was my experience.

I believe in God through faith:

For we walk by faith not by sight. 2 Cor 5:7

I know that he has changed my life, and feel the inner peace. I know that many times when I'm stressed and I have no strength to go on, I give it to him and he blesses me beyond belief. When I lost Mason, he carried me through it. I had people all around me, but I relied on inner strength and peace that came from my relationship with Jesus Christ.

As for him letting innocent people go through painful experiences or die horrible deaths. That is un-explainable and only he knows why it happens.

I know that a lot of people dis-agree with what I believe here in the Garden and I consider a lot of them my sweet friends. It is what I believe, won't argue about it. I was just thinking that the other day, if someone asks me, I'll tell them....and you asked:)

I hope this answers your question...feel free to ask me anytime:)

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Sun May 20, 2007 4:07 am

WonderWendy3;617186 wrote: I just saw this, and it's really late tonight when I'm answering this.

Chonsi said it very well...The Bible was written many years ago by the apostles and translated in different languages and passed down through the years, unfortunately this has been a stumbling block for many people. Once you believe, it doesn't become an issue actually. At least that was my experience.

I believe in God through faith:

For we walk by faith not by sight. 2 Cor 5:7

I know that he has changed my life, and feel the inner peace. I know that many times when I'm stressed and I have no strength to go on, I give it to him and he blesses me beyond belief. When I lost Mason, he carried me through it. I had people all around me, but I relied on inner strength and peace that came from my relationship with Jesus Christ.

As for him letting innocent people go through painful experiences or die horrible deaths. That is un-explainable and only he knows why it happens.

I know that a lot of people dis-agree with what I believe here in the Garden and I consider a lot of them my sweet friends. It is what I believe, won't argue about it. I was just thinking that the other day, if someone asks me, I'll tell them....and you asked:)

I hope this answers your question...feel free to ask me anytime:)

thanks to every one i still dont get the god thing but i'm trying to , one thought i had when i was with gatesy and the bible brigade that was if there is a heaven these lovely kind fantastic loving people are exactly the kind of people that deserve to be going in it :-6

i just hope they wave to me through the gates as i'm escorted to the "other"place :rolleyes:

Imladris · Post by **Imladris** » Sun May 20, 2007 11:01 am

Jimbo, I used to attend church regularly but drifted away when I joined the Specials and left home. (one day I hope I drift back)

Some of the things that I have seen and experienced over the years are true faith challenging things but somehow i still believe and I hope I always will.

For me it comes down to two words - faith and belief. If you believe some of the bible you should believe it all. This is just my opinion not back up by scripture or anything in depth - just by what I feel.

You're not wrong for having doubts or not understanding - one day you may change your opinion but there again may not - it wont' change the fact that you are a kind man loved by many here.:-4

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Sun May 20, 2007 11:06 am

Imladris;617502 wrote: Jimbo, I used to attend church regularly but drifted away when I joined the Specials and left home. (one day I hope I drift back)

Some of the things that I have seen and experienced over the years are true faith challenging things but somehow i still believe and I hope I always will.

For me it comes down to two words - faith and belief. If you believe some of the bible you should believe it all. This is just my opinion not back up by scripture or anything in depth - just by what I feel.

You're not wrong for having doubts or not understanding - one day you may change your opinion but there again may not - it wont' change the fact that you are a kind man loved by many here.:-4

BLAH BLAH BLAH :wah:

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Sun May 20, 2007 11:28 am

Imladris;617502 wrote: Jimbo, I used to attend church regularly but drifted away when I joined the Specials and left home. (one day I hope I drift back)

Some of the things that I have seen and experienced over the years are true faith challenging things but somehow i still believe and I hope I always will.

For me it comes down to two words - faith and belief. If you believe some of the bible you should believe it all. This is just my opinion not back up by scripture or anything in depth - just by what I feel.

You're not wrong for having doubts or not understanding - one day you may change your opinion but there again may not - it wont' change the fact that you are a kind man loved by many here.:-4

:yh_clap :yh_clap

Nicely said...once again by my sister!!:-4

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Sun May 20, 2007 11:44 am

Pinky;617531 wrote: I know I'm one to debate about religion, but I just wanted to say that I think both Wendy and Chonsi are wonderful examples and representatives for the christian faith. Both are kind, caring and couteous and live their lives without judging or hurting anyone. If I was to change faiths, I'd look to them as role models.:-6

Thats really nice Pinks and very truthful :-4

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Sun May 20, 2007 12:21 pm

Pinky;617531 wrote: I know I'm one to debate about religion, but I just wanted to say that I think both Wendy and Chonsi are wonderful examples and representatives for the christian faith. Both are kind, caring and couteous and live their lives without judging or hurting anyone. If I was to change faiths, I'd look to them as role models.:-6

Pinky,

I have tears in my eyes....and I'm speechless...for once...(who thought it was possible huh?) You are a beautiful person inside and out and well I Love you!!:-4

And Suzy I read your post before I responded to Pinky...much love to you also!:-4

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Sun May 20, 2007 12:48 pm

Imladris;617502 wrote: Jimbo, I used to attend church regularly but drifted away when I joined the Specials and left home. (one day I hope I drift back)

Some of the things that I have seen and experienced over the years are true faith challenging things but somehow i still believe and I hope I always will.

For me it comes down to two words - faith and belief. If you believe some of the bible you should believe it all. This is just my opinion not back up by scripture or anything in depth - just by what I feel.

You're not wrong for having doubts or not understanding - one day you may change your opinion but there again may not - it wont' change the fact that you are a kind man loved by many here.:-4

thanks immy ,why do people assume if your not a bible thumper you can not be a kind person, my gran was a religious nut and she was horrible to every that did not belong to the her church ,then become very nice for an hour whilst she was there

my other gran by the way not the nice one :-4

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Sun May 20, 2007 12:53 pm

jimbo;617607 wrote: thanks immy ,why do people assume if your not a bible thumper you can not be a kind person, my gran was a religious nut and she was horrible to every that did not belong to the her church ,then become very nice for an hour whilst she was there

my other gran by the way not the nice one :-4

That is unfortunate Jimbo, I don't believe that you have to be a Christian to be a good and nice person. I don't judge anyone...at least I try not to....I know people like your Gran though and it's sad. My boys' Grandfather lives 20 miles from them and never sees them, but has pictures of his Church friends kids' posted on his Fridge. I think that is VERY sad, family is precious...:-6 :-4

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Sun May 20, 2007 12:57 pm

WonderWendy3;617611 wrote: That is unfortunate Jimbo, I don't believe that you have to be a Christian to be a good and nice person. I don't judge anyone...at least I try not to....I know people like your Gran though and it's sad. My boys' Grandfather lives 20 miles from them and never sees them, but has pictures of his Church friends kids' posted on his Fridge. I think that is VERY sad, family is precious...:-6 :-4

thats what i'm talking about:-3

notice i have learned not to say what religion she is ,so people could not say i was picking on their church ,i'm nearly civilized now dont you think ww :wah:

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Sun May 20, 2007 1:00 pm

jimbo;617618 wrote: thats what i'm talking about

notice i have learned not to say what religion she is ,so people could not say i was picking on their church ,i'm nearly civilized now dont you think ww

ummm, sure!!

:wah:

I think you are very civilized and I don't get upset about people picking on the Church denomination...but very thoughtful of you to not want to upset anyone...You are alright big time in my book Jimbo!!:-4

Yes, I have a book...:-6

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Sun May 20, 2007 1:03 pm

WonderWendy3;617621 wrote: ummm, sure!!

I think you are very civilized and I don't get upset about people picking on the Church denomination...but very thoughtful of you to not want to upset anyone...You are alright big time in my book Jimbo!!:-4

Yes, I have a book...:-6

my gran is a jw but thats by the by :wah:

The Rob · Post by **The Rob** » Sun May 20, 2007 1:32 pm

jimbo;617216 wrote: ...if there is a heaven these lovely kind fantastic loving people are exactly the kind of people that deserve to be going in it :-6

i just hope they wave to me through the gates as i'm escorted to the "other"place :rolleyes:

Judging from your posts I've read thus far, I believe you've got a snowball's chance in Hell (oops

) of being sent to the "other" place. I sincerely wish I had your easy way with people and your optimism.

There are good people in every faith and creed. Unfortunately, a group of people are more than likely to be judged by the negative examples demonstrated by a relative few within that group. It speaks well of you, jimbo, that you put aside your preconceptions and see more positive aspects. Good on ya.

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Sun May 20, 2007 1:41 pm

I, Rob;617656 wrote: Judging from your posts I've read thus far, I believe you've got a snowball's chance in Hell (oops

) of being sent to the "other" place. I sincerely wish I had your easy way with people and your optimism.

There are good people in every faith and creed. Unfortunately, a group of people are more than likely to be judged by the negative examples demonstrated by a relative few within that group. It speaks well of you, jimbo, that you put aside your preconceptions and see more positive aspects. Good on ya.

thanks buddy ,i joined fg about a year ago ,i have learned more about myself and other people in that year than i have in the whole of my life ,i'm sure when you get to make loads friends here you will know who you can have a good laugh with and you to will relax and enjoy yourself :-6 :-6

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Sun May 20, 2007 2:20 pm

jimbo:-6

The Christian faith as all the other great faiths of the world began on two principles:

compassion and justice. It is not about right belief but about relationships not only with God but with your fellow man.

Trying to understand the divine is impossible but living with compassion and justice is quite understandable.

Sounds to me like you are on the right track.

A Christian pluralist.

Shalom

Ted:-6

binbag · Post by **binbag** » Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:01 pm

el guapo;616255 wrote: my son that was a pubTHAT, is sooo funny. :wah:

bb, a long term happy member of the "God Squad".

xyz · Post by **xyz** » Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:05 am

For those who wish to find a Christian, the USA is not the place to look. There is too much money there. Mexico, S. America, China, Africa, those are better places to look. Maybe even Canada.