Believers go on the rack to prove God relieves pain

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People are to be tortured in laboratories at Oxford University in a United States funded experiment to determine whether belief in GOD is effective in relieving pain.

Top Neurologists, pharmacologists,anatomists, ethicists and theologians are to examine the scientific basis of religious belief and whether it is anything more than a placebo.

Headed by Baroness Greenfield, the leading neurologist, the new Centre for Science of the Mind is to use imaging systems to find out how religious, spiritual and other belief systems influence consciousness.

A central aspect of the study, which has $2m funding from the John Templeton Foundation, a US philanthropic body, will involve dozens of people being subjected to painful experiments to laboratory conditions.

While enduring the agony, they will be exposed to religious symbols, such as the Virgin Mary or a crucifix. Their neurological responses will be measured to determine the efficacy of their faith in helping them to cope.

The aim is to develop new practical approaches ''for promoting well-being and ultimately maximising individual human potential''.

The experiments will be conducted under the direction of Toby Collins, who has a background in marine biology and the nerve systems of invertebrates. He said, many people in pain turn to faith for relief, Some looked to religious or secular healing systems.
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Is this for real? Sounds like a Monty Python sketch-no one expects the Spanish inquisition. If it doesn't work can they sue the torturers for misleading them? Maybe that's why they didn't do it in the states or are they importing american evangelists as test subjects.

If it dosn't work does that mean they are not true believers.
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gmc wrote: Is this for real? Sounds like a Monty Python sketch-no one expects the Spanish inquisition. If it doesn't work can they sue the torturers for misleading them? Maybe that's why they didn't do it in the states or are they importing american evangelists as test subjects.

If it dosn't work does that mean they are not true believers. Oh yes, The Times yesterday
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capt_buzzard wrote: While enduring the agony, they will be exposed to religious symbols, such as the Virgin Mary or a crucifix. Their neurological responses will be measured to determine the efficacy of their faith in helping them to cope.
Would'nt do for me, i'm not into pain!! :rolleyes:
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capt_buzzard wrote: Oh yes, The Times yesterday Ratzinger & Co perhaps :wah:
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capt_buzzard wrote:

Top Neurologists, pharmacologists,anatomists, ethicists and theologians are to examine and whether it is anything more than a placebo.



The aim is to develop new practical approaches ''for promoting well-being and ultimately maximising individual human potential''.


How pathetic, the effectivness of diversion therapy has long been known. If this group is determined to waste 2 mil, how about comparing the effect of religous icons vs. a strip tease, or a favorite musical composition etc.



"the scientific basis of religious belief " Is'nt this oxymoronic?



From a scientific perspective: if you use [brain?] imaging systems to determine pain relief, how can you possibly separate placebo effect from a temporary physiological change, when both result in the same cranial activity?

And if both are effective why do you care?



Finally, since belief systems are personal, what intrinsic value can be extracted ''for promoting well-being and ultimately maximising individual human potential''. :confused: :-5

Old age and treachery, is an acceptable response to overwelming youth and skill :D
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