kicked while your down

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:30 am

yesterday while i was trying to get my head together ' i got a nasty p m from someone calling me a liar saying sue was not in hospital ,that this person was pissed off with me that i was doing a scam

i sent her a pm back saying please explain ring me in return i got another pm saying we all know your lying too many mistakes etc

i then sent another pm to this person with the hospital number saying ring it talk to the hospital , i then pm'd betty boop asking her to please ring the hospital talk to sue and confirm she is in fact in hospital and thankfully she did so, i then got another pm from this person saying she said everyone was talking about it and that i should know

when i went to the hospital i took loads of photo's of my sick partner in her hospital bed in a ward so i could prove to you guys my friends in f g that i'm not a liar .. is this how you guys really treat each other

can you imagine how much this hurt me and how much it would hurt sue

if she knew

so who are you other people that saw fit to call me a liar just because i felt that i did not want to put sue's hospital adress online

did anyone else get this abuse or was it just me

so you people own up online and explain youself

i dont want to even reply to you i just want to put you on my ignore list

so f g is this how you treat each other behind the scenes is this acceptible behavior :-1

Post by **spot** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:38 am

Tedious bugger.

The PMer, not you, jimbo.

With provocation like that, I'd have included a name as well as the accusations.

You're a good bloke, don't get rattled by the occasional git messing with your head for fun.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:40 am

jimbo;458819 wrote: yesterday while i was trying to get my head together ' i got a nasty p m from someone calling me a liar saying sue was not in hospital ,that this person was pissed off with me that i was doing a scam

i sent her a pm back saying please explain ring me in return i got another pm saying we all know your lying too many mistakes etc

i then sent another pm to this person with the hospital number saying ring it talk to the hospital , i then pm'd betty boop asking her to please ring the hospital talk to sue and confirm she is in fact in hospital and thankfully she did so, i then got another pm from this person saying she said everyone was talking about it and that i should know

when i went to the hospital i took loads of photo's of my sick partner in her hospital bed in a ward so i could prove to you guys my friends in f g that i'm not a liar .. is this how you guys really treat each other

can you imagine how much this hurt me and how much it would hurt sue

if she knew

so who are you other people that saw fit to call me a liar just because i felt that i did not want to put sue's hospital adress online

did anyone else get this abuse or was it just me

so you people own up online and explain youself

i dont want to even reply to you i just want to put you on my ignore list

so f g is this how you treat each other behind the scenes is this acceptible behavior :-1

I for one have no idea what you are talking about. That's a problem with

"behind the scenes", PMs, etc. Remember that what you post is likely to stay

available online. You ought not to publish PMs - however, why not *name

names*, and have it out in public, like grown-ups! If you won't do that, then

as you've bought this up yourself, you ought to defend yourself. You've taken

pictures? Is there anyone else who psots here who knows you in real life?

It doesn't personally bother me, apart from the vague allusions to people

unknown, not good anyway, but it may bother you/others!

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:42 am

Pinky;458823 wrote: I don't think I want to know who it was that started being malicious in this way, because you can be damn sure that I can't have any respect for people who can be that hurtful and quite frankly, bloody SAD.

I think that if there's an *arse* around, it ought to be *exposed*.

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:52 am

i have sent a copy of the first pm to a friend on f g as proof

as for naming the person , i would not want to have everyone to be nasty to her , two wrongs do not make a right

but what i am worried about is this, how many other people are stabbing in the back , with no proof of guilt ,every time i went to the hospital sue asked who on f g was asking about her and she was visibly lifted by your support as i have been in my darkest hours of late

when she finds out about this she will not want to be on f g any more which would be a great shame for she needs love and support

so i say to you back stabbers who ever you may be do you know the pain and hurt you cause

and doese evrey one that posts on here have to have proof of the woes that blight your life before you can tell your friends in case you are called a liar

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:59 am

jimbo;458829 wrote: as for naming the person , i would not want to have everyone to be nasty to her , two wrongs do not make a right

but what i am worried about is this, how many other people are stabbing in the back

[...]

so i say to you back stabbers who ever you may be do you know the pain and hurt you cause

and doese evrey one that posts on here have to have proof of the woes that blight your life before you can tell your friends in case you are called a liar

The trouble with not posting any evidence on your own or anyone else's

behalf, and not naming names, is that it spreads FUD all over the Garden.

Now that the box is opened, I do not know whether you yourself are

genuine, neither whether there are back-stabbers and arses lurking in

every shrubbery. I'm not making *accusations* either way - merely

pointing out the huge pile of FUD that now exists.

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:02 am

:-1 Oh, I am sorry to hear you had such PM's, you ignore them Jimbo! Push that iggy button, and let them vanish from your sight. You worry about our Suzy in the hospital!

DesignerGal · Post by **DesignerGal** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:06 am

I didnt hear anything about this either. Wow.

Im sorry for your troubles jim.

And Ian: its probably not who you think it is.

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:34 am

Good advise from Snooze here Jimbo.

Ditto what Spot said.

Sorry you had to be attacked in such a manner.

People can think whatever they want. It becomes a problem when they start the unfounded accusations verbally.

[QUOTE]If you consider the PM to be abusive, the best thing to do is report it to admin.[/QUOTE]

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:39 am

SnoozeControl;458843 wrote: If you consider the PM to be abusive, the best thing to do is report it to admin.i agree. just forward it to Tombstone.

guppy · Post by **guppy** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:59 am

:yh_hugs :yh_hugs :yh_hugs I am so sorry that this is happening to you jimbo. Report it. Amd Expose the person doing this to you. By exposing her then you will stop alot of gossip that is sure to run rampant now, with everybody suspecting who it could be. ........

DesignerGal · Post by **DesignerGal** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:11 am

guppy;458867 wrote: :yh_hugs :yh_hugs :yh_hugs I am so sorry that this is happening to you jimbo. Report it. Amd Expose the person doing this to you. By exposing her then you will stop alot of gossip that is sure to run rampant now, with everybody suspecting who it could be. ........

exposing the person wouldnt do anything but pertuate a huge fallout and war between groups here. its happened before. Maybe these two can work it out between themselves like Snooze suggested.

koan · Post by **koan** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:36 am

This is so unfortunate.

jimbo, just try to keep in mind all the good support and PMs that you got. There will always be those who doubt and question. If they think you are a liar then that's their problem. You have had, I hope, enough evidence to show that the majority do not share that person's feelings.

I wish I had a dime for every message I've gotten that included the words "everyone thinks..."

or even "lots of members think..."

It's pure BS. If someone thinks something they can tell you themselves. That member, likewise, speaks only for herself.

cherandbuster · Post by **cherandbuster** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:40 am

koan;458897 wrote: This is so unfortunate.

jimbo, just try to keep in mind all the good support and PMs that you got. There will always be those who doubt and question. If they think you are a liar then that's their problem. You have had, I hope, enough evidence to show that the majority do not share that person's feelings.

I wish I had a dime for every message I've gotten that included the words "everyone thinks..."

or even "lots of members think..."

It's pure BS. If someone thinks something they can tell you themselves. That member, likewise, speaks only for herself.

Excellent post, Koan

Jimbo, I'm sorry that you had to feel more unnecessary pain :-1

pantsonfire321@aol.com · Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:52 am

jimbo;458819 wrote: yesterday while i was trying to get my head together ' i got a nasty p m from someone calling me a liar saying sue was not in hospital ,that this person was pissed off with me that i was doing a scam

i sent her a pm back saying please explain ring me in return i got another pm saying we all know your lying too many mistakes etc

i then sent another pm to this person with the hospital number saying ring it talk to the hospital , i then pm'd betty boop asking her to please ring the hospital talk to sue and confirm she is in fact in hospital and thankfully she did so, i then got another pm from this person saying she said everyone was talking about it and that i should know

when i went to the hospital i took loads of photo's of my sick partner in her hospital bed in a ward so i could prove to you guys my friends in f g that i'm not a liar .. is this how you guys really treat each other

can you imagine how much this hurt me and how much it would hurt sue

if she knew

so who are you other people that saw fit to call me a liar just because i felt that i did not want to put sue's hospital adress online

did anyone else get this abuse or was it just me

so you people own up online and explain youself

i dont want to even reply to you i just want to put you on my ignore list

so f g is this how you treat each other behind the scenes is this acceptible behavior :-1

Dirty linen should be hashed out in private in PMs not washed in public . Also pms are private they are not to be forwarded to other people .

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:55 am

pantsonfire321@aol.com;458908 wrote: COLOR="DarkRed"]SIZE="3"]B]Dirty linen should be hashed out in private in PMs not washed in public . Also pms are private they are not to be forwarded to other people .

The public process has been initiated, though. How am I now to know whether

Jimbo is a "liar", or whether there's a poisonous person or two here, or both?

You see what I mean?

cherandbuster · Post by **cherandbuster** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:58 am

SnoozeControl;458914 wrote: Is it really our business?

Well

If the person stated, as Jimbo said in his opening post, "We all know you're lying"

Then this person is speaking for others

So that kind of changes the situation a little bit, doesn't it?

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:58 am

SnoozeControl;458914 wrote:

(liars/poisonous people)

Is it really our business?

I like to know whether I'm talking to a nice person, or a nasty one. In a way, it's

"forum business". I'm not really *that* interested, just making the point. Can

you comprehend that?

pantsonfire321@aol.com · Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:59 am

Bill Sikes;458912 wrote: The public process has been initiated, though. How am I now to know whether

Jimbo is a "liar", or whether there's a poisonous person or two here, or both?

You see what I mean?

All this is doing is rallying the allies .

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:02 am

pantsonfire321@aol.com;458919 wrote: COLOR="Red"]SIZE="4"]B]All this is doing is rallying the allies .

Eh? What does that mean? Was it you? Was it someone else? Was it nothing?

Post by **spot** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:05 am

pantsonfire321@aol.com;458908 wrote: Dirty linen should be hashed out in private in PMs not washed in public . Also pms are private they are not to be forwarded to other people . Tosh, pants. The PM rule is great for ensuring that private material is protected. The moment the content becomes abuse it's better to publish and be damned than tolerate the insult. I certainly would, anyway - I'd prefer to be turfed out, if it came to that, than silent in such circumstances.

pantsonfire321@aol.com · Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:07 am

Pinky;458927 wrote: I don't think anyone wants a war over this, but the person DOES owe jimbo an apology for sheer speculation and speaking for others.

Pm's aren't there for the sake of allowing someone to be downright nasty or inconsiderate. Especially when they have no proof of what they are saying in them.

Lets see if whoever it is has the balls to deal with it and attempt to put it right.

No i dont. I still believe Jim has lied, hes also avoided many questions along the way. I called him a liar i stand by my remark . now you can all go to hell . Good by.

guppy · Post by **guppy** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:07 am

Pinky;458927 wrote: I don't think anyone wants a war over this, but the person DOES owe jimbo an apology for sheer speculation and speaking for others.

Pm's aren't there for the sake of allowing someone to be downright nasty or inconsiderate. Especially when they have no proof of what they are saying in them.

Lets see if whoever it is has the balls to deal with it and attempt to put it right.

i agree with pinky wholeheartedly. making a mistake does not make a person bad. but being able to stand up and admit your mistakes and have remorse over the hurt is a very mature thing to do. i hope this can be worked out.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:17 am

pantsonfire321@aol.com;458929 wrote: COLOR="Red"]SIZE="4"]B]now you can all go to hell good by.

Oh well, at least that seems an explanation. Hopefully normal service will be resumed (or exhumed).

guppy · Post by **guppy** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:18 am

alright pants. if's obvious you feel backed in a corner this morning. when you calm down , do realize yu have the right to your opinion and feelings. maybe you went about it the wrong way , but, hey, we are all human. Think about it, come back and deal with it.

gupster.

koan · Post by **koan** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:19 am

I suspected that I knew the catalyst thread that led to this.

Bingo

Sometimes a joke gets taken totally out of context.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:19 am

SnoozeControl;458938 wrote: Is everyone happy now? Pants came forward and 'confessed' to all the grand inquisitors in here. Let's all vote to see what punishment she should receive, huh?

-5

Dont be silly. I am starting a new "philosophical" thread in the hope that you'll

see my point there.

Edit - "Juxtaposition".

Post by **spot** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:19 am

Bill Sikes;458941 wrote: Oh well, at least that's explained. Hopefully normal service will be resumed.Zinky's thread is the modern-day FG cleanser. If everyone concerned immerses themselves they ought to come out fit for inspection.

pantsonfire321@aol.com · Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:20 am

SnoozeControl;458938 wrote: This whole situation was unnecessary and shouldn't have had a thread started about it.

Is everyone happy now? Pants came forward and 'confessed' to all the grand inquisitors in here. Let's all vote to see what punishment she should receive, huh?

:-5

Shall i make public the show of hands who also didnt believe him . There was nothing nasty in my pm just the facts that i believe him to be a liar . .

Marie5656 · Post by **Marie5656** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:20 am

Well, that is terrible. it is too bad that people have so little respect for others that they would do this to someone who is having problems.

I have no clue who did this, but I apologise on thier behalf.

24Hours · Post by **24Hours** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:20 am

FINALLY, something spicy! I have such an opinion but I am sorting out my political alliances and they aren't fully formed enough for to talk about people I don't really know. DAMN this could have been GREAT. Keep in mind that I only have ONE NUT.

pantsonfire321@aol.com · Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:25 am

So , where is he concocting another sob story .