does anyone believe this guy?

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:20 pm

and why does the name jim bakker spring to mind?

Church ousts Haggard for 'sexually immoral conduct'

The Rev. Ted Haggard is pastor no more. The board overseeing the 14,000-member New Life Church in Denver, Colorado, forced him out today, citing "sexually immoral conduct." On Friday, Haggard admitted seeking a massage from a Denver man and buying methamphetamine. He has denied that he paid the escort for sex over three years.

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Marie5656 · Post by **Marie5656** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:38 pm

Yeah right. That is all I have to say on that one.

Ranks right up there with "I did not have sexual relations with that girl".

Clint · Post by **Clint** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:18 pm

When I look at him I see a Bakker repeat. All smiles and showmanship with no authentisity. He looks phoney to the core to me. When these guys get elevated to Christian star status I start wondering about who they really are.

There are true exceptions like Billy Graham but they are rare.

He admitted to buying meth, didn't he?

Richard Bell · Post by **Richard Bell** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:50 pm

"Reverend Haggard is a vociferous spokesperson against gay marriage and, until yesterday, his wife probably had no idea she was actually in one."

Mrs. Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian ©

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:02 am

One more reason to be careful about who you permit to guide you.

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 2:08 am

And his wife's still with him? :-2

I'd have kicked his sad arse out the door.

Clint · Post by **Clint** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:12 pm

Clint;449898 wrote: When I look at him I see a Bakker repeat. All smiles and showmanship with no authentisity. He looks phoney to the core to me. When these guys get elevated to Christian star status I start wondering about who they really are.

There are true exceptions like Billy Graham but they are rare.

He admitted to buying meth, didn't he?

When I wrote this I was pretty disgusted. Today I have to confess I was wrong in condemning him. That isn’t my place and I was out of line.

I hope he is able to work his problems out with those he is accountable to. I hope he will be able to keep his family together and people who are vulnerable to the example set by his behavior are protected.

My God is a God of forgiveness and restoration. I pray Mr. Haggard will seek forgiveness and that he will be restored as a husband and father for his family.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:26 pm

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colorado (CNN) -- Less than 24 hours after being fired from the mega-church he founded, evangelical Pastor Ted Haggard confessed to a "lifelong" sexual problem.

In a letter read to members of his New Life Church Sunday, Haggard said he is "a deceiver and a liar." Haggard apologized to his congregation in the letter and asked for their forgiveness.

"There is part of my life that is so repulsive and dark that I've been warring against it all of my adult life," Haggard said in the letter read by Pastor Larry Stockstill, a member of the board of overseers of New Life Church.

On Saturday, members of the board ousted Haggard from the 14,000-member church, citing his "sexually immoral conduct.

Mike Jones claims the prominent pastor paid him for sex over a three-year period. Haggard only admitted to receiving a massage from the Denver man, in an interview Friday with CNN affiliate KUSA.

The pastor also admitted that he had bought methamphetamine, but said he did not use the drug and threw it away.

In his apology letter, Haggard made no mention of drug use, but said "I am guilty of sexual immorality." He also noted that "the things I did opened the door for additional allegations."

Haggard asked the congregation to forgive his accuser, who Haggard said revealed "the deception ... that was in my life."

In a separate letter from Haggard's wife to the women of the congregation, also read by Stockstill, Gayle Haggard said while her heart is broken, she remains "committed to him until death do us part."

The couple have five children.

After the letters were read, an overflow congregation, many of them wiping away tears, responded with a standing ovation.

Interim pastor Ross Parsley then called upon congregants to forgive Haggard.

"It is OK to be angry, it is OK to grieve," Parsley said. But, the "fall of one man" will not destroy the congregation, he said.

"Today our church family and Pastor Ted is more obedient, more repentant, more transparent than we've been in a long time," Parsley said. "You're watching the Gospel at work. You're watching healing and restoration start to occur as we go through this process."

cherandbuster · Post by **cherandbuster** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:09 am

Oh brother :rolleyes:

Adam Zapple · Post by **Adam Zapple** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:56 pm

I don't really care. It's good for his church that he was removed from the pulpit. Other than that, this whole thing really only affects his family who I feel deeply sorry for. His wife was nuked in front of the nation by a politically motivated man, but ultimately it was going to and needed to come out. Haggarts story is hard to believe, but his accuser did fail a lie detector test when asked if he had sex with Haggart so who knows. Anyway, the man needed to be removed from his position. Your sins will find you out.