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Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:28 pm

This "Letter of Apology" was written by Lieutenant General Chuck Pitman, US Marine Corps, Retired:

For good and ill, the Iraqi prisoner abuse mess will remain an issue. On the one hand, right thinking Americans will abhor the stupidity of the actions while on the other hand, political glee will take control and fashion this minor event into some modern day massacre.

I humbly offer my opinion here:

I am sorry that the last seven times we Americans took up arms and sacrificed the blood of our youth, it was in the defense of Muslims (Bosnia, Kosovo, Gulf War 1, Kuwait, etc.).

I am sorry that no such call for an apology upon the extremists came after 9/11.

I am sorry that all of the murderers on 9/11 were Islamic Arabs.

I am sorry that most Arabs and Muslims have to live in squalor under savage dictatorships.

I am sorry that their leaders squander their wealth.

I am sorry that their governments breed hate for the US in their religious schools, mosques, and government-controlled media.

I am sorry that Yassar Arafat was kicked out of every Arab country and high-jacked the Palestinian "cause."

I am sorry that no other Arab country will take in or offer more than a token amount of financial help to those same Palestinians.

I am sorry that the USA has to step in and be the biggest financial supporter of poverty stricken Arabs while the insanely wealthy Arabs blame the USA for all their problems.

I am sorry that our own left wing, our media, and our own brainwashed masses do not understand any of this (from the misleading vocal elements of our society like radical professors, CNN and the NY TIMES).

I am sorry the United Nations scammed the poor people of Iraq out of the "food for oil" money so they could get rich while the common folk suffered.

I am sorry that some Arab governments pay the families of homicide bombers upon their death.

I am sorry that those same bombers are brainwashed thinking they will receive 72 virgins in "paradise."

I am sorry that the homicide bombers think pregnant women, babies, children, the elderly and other noncombatant civilians are legitimate targets.

I am sorry that our troops die to free more Arabs from the gang rape rooms and the filling of mass graves of dissidents of their own making.

I am sorry that Muslim extremists have killed more Arabs than any other group.

I am sorry that foreign trained terrorists are trying to seize control of Iraq and return it to a terrorist state.

I am sorry we don't drop a few dozen Daisy cutters on Fallujah.

I am sorry every time terrorists hide they find a convenient "Holy Site."

I am sorry they didn't apologize for driving a jet into the World Trade Center that collapsed and severely damaged Saint Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church - one of our Holy Sites.

I am sorry they didn't apologize for flight 93 and 175, the USS Cole, the embassy bombings, the murders and beheadings of Nick Berg and Daniel Pearl, etc....etc!

I am sorry Michael Moore is American; he could feed a medium sized village in Africa.

America will get past this latest absurdity. We will punish those responsible because that is what we do.

We hang out our dirty laundry for the entire world to see. We move on. That's one of the reasons we are hated so much. We don't hide this stuff like all those Arab countries that are now demanding an apology.

Deep down inside, when most Americans saw this reported in the news, we were like - so what? We lost hundreds and made fun of a few prisoners. Sure, it was wrong, sure, it dramatically hurts our cause, but until captured we were trying to kill these same prisoners. Now we're supposed to wring our hands because a few were humiliated?

Our compassion is tempered with the vivid memories of our own people killed, mutilated and burnt amongst a joyous crowd of celebrating Fallujahans.

If you want an apology from this American, you're going to have a long wait! You have a better chance of finding those seventy-two virgins.

Chuck Pitman

Lieutenant General, USMC

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:49 pm

OOH-RAH!! and: SEMPER FIDELIS!!

I'm going to go out on a limb and say: I like what he said and how he

said it.

:yh_flag

USA, USA, USA!!

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:52 pm

Thanks for posting this, Nomad.

Tombstone · Post by **Tombstone** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:55 pm

ooh-raa!

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:56 pm

For all of our faults and they are many, we have heart, that can always be counted on.

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:59 pm

Brave guy in ALL ways..

MzInterpret · Post by **MzInterpret** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:19 pm

This letter is nothing more than an Urban Legend. It was never written by Lieutenant General Chuck Pitman, US Marine Corps, but rather adapted and changed and rewritten by someone and then accredited to Lieutenant Pitman.

It's yet another example of one of those emails that circulate the internet as truth.

Origins: As we've seen over and over, articles circulated via e-mail forwarding often lose their proper context and attribution, and authorship ends up being credited to someone who merely passed the text along and had no hand in actually writing it. This is especially true when the forwarder appears to have some tangible connection to the subject of the article Ã¢â‚¬ when, say, a crime warning is passed along by a law enforcement officer, or a piece touching on military affairs passes through the mailbox of a (current or former) member of the armed

services.

In this fashion, the name of retired U.S. Marine Corps Lieutenant General Chuck Pitman evidently became attached to the "Letter of Apology" reproduced above sometime in 2005, although he was not its author. As far as we know, the original source was an article entitled "My Apology to the Arab World," penned by Dr. Mike S. Adams, a professor of criminology at the University of North Carolina Wilmington, and published on Townhall.com on 14 June 2004.

As typically happens in such circumstances, the original text has undergone numerous additions, deletions, and amendations as it has been passed from inbox to inbox in the months since it was first published, so the version circulated by e-mail now significantly differs from the original version.

Source

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:23 pm

Im in trouble now arent I ?

MzInterpret · Post by **MzInterpret** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:28 pm

Nomad wrote: Im in trouble now arent I ?
:wah: :wah:

Nah, we'll forgive you. You're American. You don't know any better!

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:05 pm

I agree Valerie.. :yh_clap :yh_clap

OOH-RAH!! and: SEMPER FIDELIS!!

I'm going to go out on a limb and say: I like what he said and how he

said it.

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:34 pm

As typically happens in such circumstances, the original text has undergone numerous additions, deletions, and amendations as it has been passed from inbox to inbox in the months since it was first published, so the version circulated by e-mail now significantly differs from the original version.

This being the case, then it must be a true representation of everyone who read and/or amended it.

I find myself agreeing with the article, whether it was authored by Lietenant General Chuck Pitman or co-authored by email users. It is poignant and really brings home the truth of the state of matters between the Arabs and the West. It reflects how I feel.

Im in trouble now arent I ?

I wouldn't castigate you for posting this Nomad. I would thank you, instead.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:28 pm

Hmmmmmmmmm. It's been hours, and no word from Benjamin ranting about conservatives ........ and no word from ChiptBeef about plagiarism. :yh_think

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:30 pm

I wouldn't castigate you for posting this Nomad. I would thank you, instead.

Thank you cause i hate feeling castigated....hey I know ! Lets go castigate someone else :-6

StupidCowboyTricks · Post by **StupidCowboyTricks** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:33 pm

Accountable wrote: Hmmmmmmmmm. It's been hours, and no word from Benjamin ranting about conservatives ........ and no word from ChiptBeef about plagiarism. :yh_think

LOL, hmmmmmmm :wah:

Shweet tatersalad · Post by **Shweet tatersalad** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:54 pm

If this letter is indeed a mixture of additions and revisions and bits from here and there that eventuly adds up too a strong American feeling of pride.Then it is truly a good example of americana,we are all additions and revisions in one way or another,we are a melting pot of many people together as one.And if this letter gives us something too beleive in,then so be it.I have walked in those boots in that sand far away from here,and I will be forever faithful.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:58 am

Shweet tatersalad wrote: If this letter is indeed a mixture of additions and revisions and bits from here and there that eventuly adds up too a strong American feeling of pride.Then it is truly a good example of americana,we are all additions and revisions in one way or another,we are a melting pot of many people together as one.And if this letter gives us something too beleive in,then so be it.I have walked in those boots in that sand far away from here,and I will be forever faithful.
:yh_clap Well said!! :yh_clap

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:40 am

Nomad wrote:

Thank you cause i hate feeling castigated....hey I know ! Lets go castigate someone else :-6

Anyone out there in need of castigation?? Speak up now!!:sneaky: