Hi there
My eight year old son is statemented under special educational needs, he attends a main stream school were he is allocated so many hours s.e.n education which the school recieve funding for.
At the last review / meeting on his progress it has been suggested that he will not be allowed to continue into years 5 and 6 at the school.
Can they rearly do this????
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robinseggs
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In other words they are saying he must go to a special school? Is he not allowed to attend the regular school setting in their district???
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If this is the case i would be wondering...."Whose best interest does this serve?" Your son's or the other classmates?
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Hi l.plates, I'm not sure if you can stop your child from going to special school, but I had a friend who had a similar situation and she flatly refused to let her child go, her son was 7 when she was told that he should be taken out of main stream school. I remember she appealled against it, even got a soliciter to go with her. (He was a waste of money she said. he just sat there and let her do the talking). It was held in a room with about six middle aged people sitting across the table, and not one of them knew her son. Anyway she won the appeal and her son stayed on condition she gave him one to one private lessons at home as well as going to school.
If you really don't think he should go then look into it and do what you can.
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If you really don't think he should go then look into it and do what you can.
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Robin, the British school system differs from ours significantly. They may well be able to do it. As I understand it, children with less talent and skills (by standardized testing) at the high school age go to trade schools, while the more gifted are offered an opportunity to go to college.
There's both pros and cons to this, but it's not better or worse than our system.
There's both pros and cons to this, but it's not better or worse than our system.
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l.plates wrote: Hi there
My eight year old son is statemented under special educational needs, he attends a main stream school were he is allocated so many hours s.e.n education which the school recieve funding for.
At the last review / meeting on his progress it has been suggested that he will not be allowed to continue into years 5 and 6 at the school.
Can they rearly do this????
Get back to your school straight away and find out why? Has this never been discussed with you before? Do you have regular meetings with the SENCO at the school and if you do this is when it should have been talked about, not at the annual review.
I understand that the way the money is provided has changed recently. Apparently schools no longer get funding from the LEA for their special needs children, they have supposedly been allocated more money in their yearly budgets to allow for this. This is certainly the case in Cornwall, although it could be different for you.
As to whether they can do this I'm not sure, is there a suitable special needs school in your area?
My son is also eight and special needs, I have queried recently if he is suitable for mainstream schooling, his school feel that at the moment he is. My son goes to wonderful school, they have bent over backwards to accommodate him and help him. I have regular chats with his teacher, helper and the SENCO.
I'd be a bit inclined to think that this could possibly be about 'money'.
Best of luck with sorting this out.
My eight year old son is statemented under special educational needs, he attends a main stream school were he is allocated so many hours s.e.n education which the school recieve funding for.
At the last review / meeting on his progress it has been suggested that he will not be allowed to continue into years 5 and 6 at the school.
Can they rearly do this????
Get back to your school straight away and find out why? Has this never been discussed with you before? Do you have regular meetings with the SENCO at the school and if you do this is when it should have been talked about, not at the annual review.
I understand that the way the money is provided has changed recently. Apparently schools no longer get funding from the LEA for their special needs children, they have supposedly been allocated more money in their yearly budgets to allow for this. This is certainly the case in Cornwall, although it could be different for you.
As to whether they can do this I'm not sure, is there a suitable special needs school in your area?
My son is also eight and special needs, I have queried recently if he is suitable for mainstream schooling, his school feel that at the moment he is. My son goes to wonderful school, they have bent over backwards to accommodate him and help him. I have regular chats with his teacher, helper and the SENCO.
I'd be a bit inclined to think that this could possibly be about 'money'.
Best of luck with sorting this out.
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my son hasn't been statemented but he has had an I.E.P for his dyslexia and funnily enough, they had me in last week and told me they're taking him off it because he's hitting his targets even though I can't see any improvement whatsoever. Hmmm, seems like a money thing to me.
it might be a positive move for your son if it's only for a year or so before high school.
it might be a positive move for your son if it's only for a year or so before high school.
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Hi all
Thank you for your advice.
My son gets 12.50hrs one to one education under SEN a week at the review the cost was mentioned, under the system here the parants have the final decision and yet I'm being continualy pressured to change my decision. my son is now saying himself that he is not liked or wanted at the school and is being called thick-oh, and told to go to a school for dummies.
Thank you for your advice.
My son gets 12.50hrs one to one education under SEN a week at the review the cost was mentioned, under the system here the parants have the final decision and yet I'm being continualy pressured to change my decision. my son is now saying himself that he is not liked or wanted at the school and is being called thick-oh, and told to go to a school for dummies.
Excluded from main stream school?
posted by l.plates
Hi there
My eight year old son is statemented under special educational needs, he attends a main stream school were he is allocated so many hours s.e.n education which the school recieve funding for.
At the last review / meeting on his progress it has been suggested that he will not be allowed to continue into years 5 and 6 at the school.
Can they rearly do this????
You don't say whether you are in scotland or england but in scotland the answer is no they can't and they're chancing their arm.
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/library/docu ... ima-04.htm
Aims
3.1 The Government believes that everyone has a right to participate fully in society, and to have the opportunity to reach their full potential. No democratic society should tolerate the misery and divisions which social exclusion represents. No democratic society should permit the development of conditions in which alienation, racism and violent disorder can flourish. Moreover, in an increasingly global economy, economic competitiveness and the ability to thrive depends on the extent to which the full human resources of Scotland can be mobilised and maximised. The Government believes, therefore, that action must be taken to achieve true equality of opportunity.
Try doing a google search under social inclusion.
Does have a major down side in that kids who really should be in special needs classes and one on one teaching get put in with the mainstream.
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Robin, the British school system differs from ours significantly. They may well be able to do it. As I understand it, children with less talent and skills (by standardized testing) at the high school age go to trade schools, while the more gifted are offered an opportunity to go to college.
There's both pros and cons to this, but it's not better or worse than our system.
Way out of date we started going comprehensive in the 60's, you might find this of interest, some of the current debate going on.
http://www.casenet.org.uk/success.html
TB is tryng to turn back the clock as an ex public schoolboy (UK context public school is fee paying, he went to one of the more expensive schools in edinburgh) he's managing to antagonise much of the labour party and there is a massive debate about education reform starting.
Just to complicate things Scotland and England have different education systems-naturally scotland's is better although I may be a little biased.
Hi there
My eight year old son is statemented under special educational needs, he attends a main stream school were he is allocated so many hours s.e.n education which the school recieve funding for.
At the last review / meeting on his progress it has been suggested that he will not be allowed to continue into years 5 and 6 at the school.
Can they rearly do this????
You don't say whether you are in scotland or england but in scotland the answer is no they can't and they're chancing their arm.
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/library/docu ... ima-04.htm
Aims
3.1 The Government believes that everyone has a right to participate fully in society, and to have the opportunity to reach their full potential. No democratic society should tolerate the misery and divisions which social exclusion represents. No democratic society should permit the development of conditions in which alienation, racism and violent disorder can flourish. Moreover, in an increasingly global economy, economic competitiveness and the ability to thrive depends on the extent to which the full human resources of Scotland can be mobilised and maximised. The Government believes, therefore, that action must be taken to achieve true equality of opportunity.
Try doing a google search under social inclusion.
Does have a major down side in that kids who really should be in special needs classes and one on one teaching get put in with the mainstream.
posted by jives
Robin, the British school system differs from ours significantly. They may well be able to do it. As I understand it, children with less talent and skills (by standardized testing) at the high school age go to trade schools, while the more gifted are offered an opportunity to go to college.
There's both pros and cons to this, but it's not better or worse than our system.
Way out of date we started going comprehensive in the 60's, you might find this of interest, some of the current debate going on.
http://www.casenet.org.uk/success.html
TB is tryng to turn back the clock as an ex public schoolboy (UK context public school is fee paying, he went to one of the more expensive schools in edinburgh) he's managing to antagonise much of the labour party and there is a massive debate about education reform starting.
Just to complicate things Scotland and England have different education systems-naturally scotland's is better although I may be a little biased.
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l.plates wrote: Hi all
Thank you for your advice.
My son gets 12.50hrs one to one education under SEN a week at the review the cost was mentioned, under the system here the parants have the final decision and yet I'm being continualy pressured to change my decision. my son is now saying himself that he is not liked or wanted at the school and is being called thick-oh, and told to go to a school for dummies.
Aww Plates, I feel bad for your situation. I hope everything works out. But please consider your son's situation to the fullest extent .....Is it at all possible that going to the special school may actually be better for him? It has been my experience that most parents have this big opposition to sending them there and even fight it tooth and nail when in reality it winds up being the greatest thing they could have done for their child. Why wouldn't you want the best for your child and for him to have better opportunities more tailored to his needs? I know sending him seems like defeat--an actual admittance that there are more problems than regular school can handle, but think of the little boy as he sits confused/feeling left out in the regular room. Now he has even told you he feels picked on. I guess I see a lot of parents pushing so hard for their kid to remain mainstream and yet the child gets absolutely NOTHING out of the school day because there is much time spent trying to fix the problems/issues that occur when they aren't able to thrive. I dunno........consider this please....I hope everything works out for your little boy. I have a 9 yr old boy and I know our children are just the most important thing in the world to us!! Good luck!
Thank you for your advice.
My son gets 12.50hrs one to one education under SEN a week at the review the cost was mentioned, under the system here the parants have the final decision and yet I'm being continualy pressured to change my decision. my son is now saying himself that he is not liked or wanted at the school and is being called thick-oh, and told to go to a school for dummies.
Aww Plates, I feel bad for your situation. I hope everything works out. But please consider your son's situation to the fullest extent .....Is it at all possible that going to the special school may actually be better for him? It has been my experience that most parents have this big opposition to sending them there and even fight it tooth and nail when in reality it winds up being the greatest thing they could have done for their child. Why wouldn't you want the best for your child and for him to have better opportunities more tailored to his needs? I know sending him seems like defeat--an actual admittance that there are more problems than regular school can handle, but think of the little boy as he sits confused/feeling left out in the regular room. Now he has even told you he feels picked on. I guess I see a lot of parents pushing so hard for their kid to remain mainstream and yet the child gets absolutely NOTHING out of the school day because there is much time spent trying to fix the problems/issues that occur when they aren't able to thrive. I dunno........consider this please....I hope everything works out for your little boy. I have a 9 yr old boy and I know our children are just the most important thing in the world to us!! Good luck!
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robinseggs wrote: Aww Plates, I feel bad for your situation. I hope everything works out. But please consider your son's situation to the fullest extent .....Is it at all possible that going to the special school may actually be better for him? It has been my experience that most parents have this big opposition to sending them there and even fight it tooth and nail when in reality it winds up being the greatest thing they could have done for their child. Why wouldn't you want the best for your child and for him to have better opportunities more tailored to his needs? I know sending him seems like defeat--an actual admittance that there are more problems than regular school can handle, but think of the little boy as he sits confused/feeling left out in the regular room. Now he has even told you he feels picked on. I guess I see a lot of parents pushing so hard for their kid to remain mainstream and yet the child gets absolutely NOTHING out of the school day because there is much time spent trying to fix the problems/issues that occur when they aren't able to thrive. I dunno........consider this please....I hope everything works out for your little boy. I have a 9 yr old boy and I know our children are just the most important thing in the world to us!! Good luck!
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These problems have only arisen since the review a week ago, at the review a year ago our decision to keep our son in main stream school was not a problem, the biggest area of conversation was COST. they even (SENCO) tried to say he would be excluded from secondary school.
my son achieves the work at home unaided but at school he switches off and stares out of the window, the teachers allow him to do this and then decide he should'nt be there. today they have sent me a letter about his absence, he's had 4 days sick since september, this can be checked out with his doctor.
I have found out the numbers are too high they cannot accomadate all the children next year for year 5 ?????
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These problems have only arisen since the review a week ago, at the review a year ago our decision to keep our son in main stream school was not a problem, the biggest area of conversation was COST. they even (SENCO) tried to say he would be excluded from secondary school.
my son achieves the work at home unaided but at school he switches off and stares out of the window, the teachers allow him to do this and then decide he should'nt be there. today they have sent me a letter about his absence, he's had 4 days sick since september, this can be checked out with his doctor.
I have found out the numbers are too high they cannot accomadate all the children next year for year 5 ?????
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But have his grades fallen since a year ago? Can you honestly say "No"? If you can and the "daydreaming" is NOT a new symptom, then it might be worth it to try to keep him in regular school setting. However, if grades have come down since last year and the daydreaming is a newer symptom, then I would say, "Adios". In other words I would GLADLY take my son out. What kind of help is he going to get in an overcrowded, underfunded environment where he has already been asked to leave? It sounds harsh, and I don't mean to be....Just understand that I was the teacher. I saw this scenerio play out time and time again. Have you asked your son point blank what he thinks? I think you'd be surprised.
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robinseggs wrote: But have his grades fallen since a year ago? Can you honestly say "No"? If you can and the "daydreaming" is NOT a new symptom, then it might be worth it to try to keep him in regular school setting. However, if grades have come down since last year and the daydreaming is a newer symptom, then I would say, "Adios". In other words I would GLADLY take my son out. What kind of help is he going to get in an overcrowded, underfunded environment where he has already been asked to leave? It sounds harsh, and I don't mean to be....Just understand that I was the teacher. I saw this scenerio play out time and time again. Have you asked your son point blank what he thinks? I think you'd be surprised.
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No his grades havent dropped, they remain the same, the daydreaming is new, he said school is boaring.
I no he has learning difficulties, and his s.e.n tutor is fantastic, but there is a very sudden change of attitude, I have checked as to wether he is disruptive, or causes trouble in school, and the response was he was a very friendly little boy with lots of friends, well liked by all the other children.
Having said all that I'm going to look into other schools, as I feel there will come a time when the attitude will be obvious even to him, and he will become unhappy and be put off going to school, a problem I have never had he's always been keen and happy to go.
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No his grades havent dropped, they remain the same, the daydreaming is new, he said school is boaring.
I no he has learning difficulties, and his s.e.n tutor is fantastic, but there is a very sudden change of attitude, I have checked as to wether he is disruptive, or causes trouble in school, and the response was he was a very friendly little boy with lots of friends, well liked by all the other children.
Having said all that I'm going to look into other schools, as I feel there will come a time when the attitude will be obvious even to him, and he will become unhappy and be put off going to school, a problem I have never had he's always been keen and happy to go.
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Have heard this is true. Our public school has a mandatory strings program.
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HI
yer he likes music, but the school dont teach the children to play instruments. They do a lot of this movement to sound stuff though, he gets on well with that, you might have hit on a point there Pete thanks.
yer he likes music, but the school dont teach the children to play instruments. They do a lot of this movement to sound stuff though, he gets on well with that, you might have hit on a point there Pete thanks.
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I would have a huge problem sending my child to a school that doesn't teach children to play instruments. Are you kidding? There have been studies done that proved playing instruments (children at the elementary level through highschool) increased IQ scores and overall test scores. Not to open a can of worms, but are you in a private institution right now??
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