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Collapse of Hydrogen Atom

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:16 am
by Mike CT
Stability of the HA

Solid state electronics has only one current. So it has only one right

hand rule.

But in liquids and gases, you have two currents. The electron current

and the positive ionic current. Since these two currents move in the

opposite directions, you have to apply the left hand rule to the

positive current. The electron current is applied by the right hand

rule.

Incidentally, the physics books show the current as positive in solid

state electronics. This is another example of establishment mistakes.

In the HA where I use both hands, you have two currents. The electron

current and the positive proton spin current adjacent to the electron

side where both move in the same direction. So the thumbs of both hands

point in the same direction. But their charges are oposite so the left

hand rule would apply to the proton current.

As a result of this orientation, the resultant magnetic fields will

push against each other to repel the electron and the proton to prevent

a collapse of the hydrogen atom.

This visual explanation does not need QM to explain why the HA is

stable in its ground state and is intended to give credibility to the Bohr model of the HA as a planetary model.

Mike CT

Collapse of Hydrogen Atom

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:52 pm
by Galbally
Mike CT wrote: Stability of the HA

Solid state electronics has only one current. So it has only one right

hand rule.

But in liquids and gases, you have two currents. The electron current

and the positive ionic current. Since these two currents move in the

opposite directions, you have to apply the left hand rule to the

positive current. The electron current is applied by the right hand

rule.

Incidentally, the physics books show the current as positive in solid

state electronics. This is another example of establishment mistakes.

In the HA where I use both hands, you have two currents. The electron

current and the positive proton spin current adjacent to the electron

side where both move in the same direction. So the thumbs of both hands

point in the same direction. But their charges are oposite so the left

hand rule would apply to the proton current.

As a result of this orientation, the resultant magnetic fields will

push against each other to repel the electron and the proton to prevent

a collapse of the hydrogen atom.

This visual explanation does not need QM to explain why the HA is

stable in its ground state and is intended to give credibility to the Bohr model of the HA as a planetary model.

Mike CT


Hi Mike, sorry I didn't get a chance to look at this sooner, well, its an interesting hypothesis, you certainly do have a different way of looking at things. I think that there are lots of phenomena that this doesn't explain though, but I'm impressed with your doggedness in challenging fundamental physics. I'm wondering what has made you decide to take this path, and why the amateur interest in science, you do seem to have spent quite a lot of time in going into physics and then more in debunking it? I suppose thats a personal question, so of course you don't have to answer anything that you don't want to, but was there one sort of anomaly or something that made you it up one day and go "this stuff's not right, I want to find out what is really going on?" Just curious. I'm sorry that I'm not getting into specific physics issues here with you, which is what you want I suspect, but lets face it, I could quote chapter and verse on standard models of everything from atoms, nuclei, and galaxies, but you've obviously already gone through that and not been impressed, so it would be a bit of a sterile argument.

Collapse of Hydrogen Atom

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:44 pm
by Alfred
wouldn't the electrons velocity have something to do with the prevention of collapse?

Collapse of Hydrogen Atom

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:01 am
by Mike CT
Galbally

Yes, I do go against the current theory of the BB universe because it is simply unbelievable. But there are other problems like the 'cause of flares and sunspots' and the current dark matter problem that I think should have been solved by now which I have done but still remains a mystery for mainstream science.

Alfred quote

wouldn't the electrons velocity have something to do with the prevention of collapse?

reply

Certainly. Its momentum which is accelerated by the coulomb attraction is the main reason for its orbital stability. But mainstream science using Newtonian math have said the HA would collapse

There are other reasons why it would not collapse like energy exchange where the atom has to absorb energy before it can radiate energy.

Mike CT