Refrigerate Butter?

robinseggs · Post by **robinseggs** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:14 pm

Do you refrigerate butter? I do, but have a friend who doesn't. She says it's safe. I dunno about that!!! Also do Europeans refrigerate their butter?

devist8me · Post by **devist8me** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:22 pm

I don't. Stays in a decorative covered butter dish next to the stove.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:30 pm

from Land 'o Lakes....(i would never keep a dairy product at room temp. but i know lots of people who do. ) Storage
Always keep butter refrigerated. Store it in its original container in the coldest part of the refrigerator, not the warmer "butter keeper" on the door. Store it away from foods with a distinctive odor like cheese, onions, garlic, etc..

Refrigerate unused portions of opened butter in a covered dish.

LAND O LAKESÃ‚Â® Butter has a shelf life of four months. For longer storage, freeze in carton.

actionfigurestepho · Post by **actionfigurestepho** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:41 pm

I refrigerate, but mostly because if I don't the cats will find a way to get into it!

theia · Post by **theia** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:24 am

Refrigerate..but I buy the easy spread otherwise I find myself eating great chunks of butter on broken up bread :-5

Alfred · Post by **Alfred** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:37 am

me=refridgerate

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:01 am

I buy the spreadable stuff so no problem with it being cold.

My mum leaves hers out all the time & in the hot weather (we do get some occasionally) it gets rancid, ugh!

Alfred · Post by **Alfred** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:03 am

the flies attack with a vengence if we leave it out

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:33 am

help im being refrigerated

i live in scotland, im cold enough thank you

sherry · Post by **sherry** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:32 am

I don't use proper butter, I find it too rich.

But if I did I'd keep it in the fridge.

Valerie100 · Post by **Valerie100** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:35 am

Refrigerate it. Why take a chance with your health by leaving it out all the time?

PurpleChicken · Post by **PurpleChicken** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:14 am

I'm definitely for refrigeration! If not for the possible health issues (though I agree many people have survived just fine without refrigerating theirs), I get stuck on the practicality of it all. Can't think there'd be too much left when you leave butter out on a 30 degree day....

jasmund · Post by **jasmund** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:30 am

I grew up with not putting it in the fridge, I think it depends on the brand, um, I dont, it makes it more warm and skwishy, yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Some of us like it that way. I'm 38 and havent kicked the bucket yet, and peanut butter is a constant in my house.Wierd that my son has never , ever liked it.

-Jasmund

-Peanut Butter is the food of gods.

robinseggs · Post by **robinseggs** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:19 am

Thanks guys...I was just wondering. I grew up always refridgerating it. But I love it when it is soft and spreadable. As for buying the spreadable stuff.....well then I am not buying butter and the whole flavor changes. My friend told me to go to this site. Apparently you can keep the butter fresh if you use this "butter bell". Ever heard of this?

http://butterbell.com/catalog.html

By the way, Far Rider.........oh I just love honey and butter on biscuits!!! Or how about a Johnny cake?!! (cornbread). Also good w/ butter and Karo syrup--the clear one. LOL

I need to get back to the gym.

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:01 am

I keep it in the fridge except when I know I'm going to use it on something

that I need it soft to spread. Then I take it out ahead of time and let it

come up to room temp. If I forget, I can always nuke it for a few secs.

I would eat way too much if I left it cold, it just doesn't spread. And I

don't buy the whipped kind which is spreadable because them you're

paying butter prices for AIR!!

My mom always left out the margarine growing up. But then she also

used to save bacon grease in a coffee can and re-use it YUCK.

:yh_eyerol

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:24 am

Au Contraire, AL, eggs should ALWAYS be kept refrigerated! Keeps them

from developing way yucky bacteria in there!

:)

robinseggs · Post by **robinseggs** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:12 am

valerie wrote: I keep it in the fridge except when I know I'm going to use it on something

that I need it soft to spread. Then I take it out ahead of time and let it

come up to room temp. If I forget, I can always nuke it for a few secs.

I would eat way too much if I left it cold, it just doesn't spread. And I

don't buy the whipped kind which is spreadable because them you're

paying butter prices for AIR!!

My mom always left out the margarine growing up. But then she also

used to save bacon grease in a coffee can and re-use it YUCK.

:yh_eyerol

"They" now say that re-using that grease is a carcinogenic...(causes cancers) but who knew? And what doesn't cause cancer these days? lol

Well apparently this "butter bell" crock is supposed to guarantee to keep the butter fresh left on the counter/cabinet...... my friend swears by it. Hmmm...I am thinking about trying it.

On the healthier side of things I just ate a Lean Cuisine Chicken Fried Rice and it wasn't bad...doctored it up a bit with some teriaki sauce but not bad. Yes it is only 10 am but hey i am a stay home mom, what the heck?

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:29 am

I store butter in the fridge (door compartment) but i always keep the portion we are using in a covered butter dish on the worktop. My husband eats quite a lot so it gets consumed quickly. I do put the dish in the fridge in the summer if it gets hot, otherwise it melts !!

Before we had fridges, I guess people kept their butter in a larder with marble shelves...my mum did....and they shopped daily for perishables, not weekly like we/I do now.

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:31 am

robinseggs wrote: "They" now say that re-using that grease is a carcinogenic...(causes cancers) but who knew? And what doesn't cause cancer these days? lol

Well apparently this "butter bell" crock is supposed to guarantee to keep the butter fresh left on the counter/cabinet...... my friend swears by it. Hmmm...I am thinking about trying it.

On the healthier side of things I just ate a Lean Cuisine Chicken Fried Rice and it wasn't bad...doctored it up a bit with some teriaki sauce but not bad. Yes it is only 10 am but hey i am a stay home mom, what the heck?

Oh, the things my Mom used to do back then! I think I've mentioned it

before: stuff the turkey the night before Thanksgiving, and then, because

there wasn't enough room in the fridge, LEAVE IT OUT ON THE KITCHEN

COUNTER OVERNIGHT! Margarine and white bread every day on the table

for meals. Canned watery spinach.

Our only saving grace was a HUGE garden, all that fresh stuff for months

on end... and meats my dad brought in.

(BTW, Lean Cuisines are not bad at all... they've got some new ones out

by I always have really liked their 'sghetti and meatballs!

:o

jennyswan · Post by **jennyswan** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:47 am

I wouldn't refrigerate real homemade butter but you should also use it quickly. I would refrigerate margarine though.

There is nothing like a big slice of hot toast with real melting butter on it. Yummy:)

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:27 pm

lady cop wrote: from Land 'o Lakes....(i would never keep a dairy product at room temp. but i know lots of people who do. ) Storage

Always keep butter refrigerated. Store it in its original container in the coldest part of the refrigerator, not the warmer "butter keeper" on the door. Store it away from foods with a distinctive odor like cheese, onions, garlic, etc..

Refrigerate unused portions of opened butter in a covered dish.

LAND O LAKESÃ‚Â® Butter has a shelf life of four months. For longer storage, freeze in carton.

Butter is salted which acts as a preservative, its safe to keep out.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:51 pm

Nomad wrote: Butter is salted which acts as a preservative, its safe to keep out.oh, so you're going to argue with land 'o lakes? the butter people?? and what about unsalted butter, HUH??? how much salt do you think is in butter anyway? it's not exactly salted cod you know. :p pffffttttt

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:58 pm

Land o Lakes, hmmm I wonder where that could be ? This has been a debate in my own house, we called Land o Lakes and that was their reply.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:00 pm

it was their website

..but i agree it does get rancid if left out for too long.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:05 pm

They said its ok for a few days due to the salt but the unsalted must be refrigerated. Theyre probably just playing it safe.

Lil~Basco · Post by **Lil~Basco** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:11 pm

lady cop wrote: it's not exactly salted cod you know. :p pffffttttt

:yh_rotfl :yh_rotfl :yh_rotfl

Sorry LC....but that was a good one!

robinseggs · Post by **robinseggs** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:08 pm

Nomad wrote: They said its ok for a few days due to the salt but the unsalted must be refrigerated. Theyre probably just playing it safe.

AH-HA!! So the unsalted is not safe to leave out? Hmmm...its the only kind I like. I think the salted butters taste stale. It's the only kind my parents buy.... really ruins a whole meal in my opinion!! Anyhow, so now I still wonder....and will have to ask Land o Lakes about this "Butter Bell" thing.......can I store unsalted butter in THERE??????? UGH!!!! What do you guys think?

robinseggs · Post by **robinseggs** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:56 am

Well if anybody is still reading this thread...saw this in an email I got today and thought I'd share it....checked it out w/ Snopes already so it is valid....

Claim: Ingestion of some types of margarine increases the risk of coronary disease.

Status: True.

Example: [Collected via e-mail, 2003]

The difference between butter and margarine?

Both have the same amount of calories, butter is slightly higher in saturated fats at 8 grams compared to 5 grams. Eating margarine can increase heart disease in women by 53% over eating the same amount of butter according to a recent Harvard Medical Study.

Eating butter increases the absorption of many other nutrients in other foods, butter has many nutritional benefits where margarine has a few only because they are added! Butter tastes much better than margarine and it can enhance the flavours of other foods. Butter has been around for centuries where margarine has been around for less than 100 years.

Now for Margarine, very high in trans fatty acids triple risk of Coronary Heart Disease, Increases total and LDL ( This is the bad Cholesterol), Lowers HDL cholesterol and this is the good one, Increases the risk of cancers by up to five fold, lowers quality of breast milk, decreases immune response, and decreases insulin response.

And here is the most disturbing fact......

Margarine is but one molecule from being PLASTIC..... (This fact alone was enough to have me avoiding margarine for life and anything else that is hydrogenated, this means hydrogen is added changing the molecular structure of the food.)

You can try this for yourself, purchase a tub of margarine and leave it in your garage or shaded area, within a couple of days you will note a couple of things, no flies, not even those pesky fruit flies will go near it, (that should tell you something) it does not rot, smell differently... Because it has no nutritional value, nothing will grow on it, even those teeny weeny microorganisms will not find a home to grow... Why?

Because it is nearly plastic. Would you melt your Tupperware and spread that on your toast?

Origins: This

compilation began circulating on the Internet in June 2003, often under the title "Butter vs. Margarine."

Surprisingly enough, there is a fair bit of truth to it. According to the latest findings in the medical world, margarine can increase the risk of heart disease, depending upon the type of fat contained in the spread. Previously, the dietary villain in the development of coronary disease was presumed to be saturated fat, but new evidence points the finger to trans fat (also known as trans fatty acids). Although butter has its own set of dietary shortcomings, it does not contain trans fat.

In 1994, Harvard University researchers reported that people who ate partially hydrogenated oils, which are high in trans fats, had nearly twice the risk of heart attacks as those who consumed much less of the substance. Several large studies in the United States and elsewhere, including the Nurses' Health Study conducted by researchers at the Harvard School of Public Health, have also suggested a strong link between earlier death and consumption of foods high in trans fat.

Trans fats occur naturally in small amounts in some foods, including meat and dairy products, but most trans fats in the American diet are formed when vegetable oils are chemically changed to give them a longer shelf life. Cookies, potato chips, baked products, and the like are particularly loaded with trans fats.

The Food and Drug Administration, the National Academy, the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute. and the American Heart Association all recommend consumers limit their intake of trans fat wherever possible. Moreover, the federal government has insisted that by 2006 all food labels disclose how much trans fat products contain.

Until that labelling change comes into effect, consumers should be wary of any foodstuff that makes mention of containing "hydrogenated" or "partially hydrogenated" ingredients. They should also not make the mistake of assuming saturated fats are now good for them or no longer pose any danger to their health. This is not a time to be wallowing in butter.

Those still tussling with the "butter versus margarine" controversy, or who just want to know how their margarine stacks up against others might find the following comparison chart informative. Numbers given in grams refer to how many grams of each particular type of fat there are per tablespoon of that brand. (A tablespoon of butter or margarine contains 14 grams.) Numbers given as percentages represent the impact of one tablespoon of that spread on the recommended daily allowance of that substance. Margarines sampled were of the "tub" variety. (The same margarines in "stick" form had consistently higher numbers.) Total Fat Saturated Polyunsaturated Monounsaturated

Butter 11g (17%) 7g (36%) 0 0

I Can't Believe It's Not Butter 10g (15%) 2g (10%) 4.5g 4.5g

I Can't Believe It's Not Butter Light 5g (8%) 1g (5%) 2.5g 1.5g

Parkay 8g (13%) 1.5g (8%) 4g 2g

Fleischmann's 9g (14%) 1.5g (10%) 4g 3g

Blue Bonnet 7g (14%) 1.5g (10%) 3g 2g

Imperial 7g (10%) 1.5g (7%) 3g 1.5g

Country Crock (Shedd's Spread) 7g (10%) 1.5g (7%) 3g 1.5g

Because butter is an animal product, it contains cholesterol, amounting to 30 mg per tablespoon or 10% of the USDA recommended daily allowance. Margarines, because they are non-animal products, do not.

The preceeding chart says nothing about which margarines contain trans fats or how much because this information is not always included on product labels.

Although a great deal of the information given in the e-mail is valid, one bit of intelligence is nothing more than hyperbole tossed in by the author in an effort to make his point more strongly. The claim that some comestible is but a "single molecule away" from being a decidedly inedible (or even toxic) substance has been applied to a variety of processed foods.

[Collected via e-mail, 2005]

Wolverine · Post by **Wolverine** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 12:17 pm

FatKids love butter. and cake.

robinseggs · Post by **robinseggs** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 2:12 pm

What is "FatKids"?? You mean fat kids? My kids aren't fat! lol

......and I'm not either.....lol

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:01 pm

You can keep real butter out in the winter if your kitchen stays coolish. The summers are too hot here for me to trust anything left out.

Uncle Kram · Post by **Uncle Kram** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 3:52 am

Always keep "I Can't Believe It's Not Utterly Butterly" in the Fridge.

Alternatively, be like me and lead a butter-free life. Moist bread dispenses with the need for a lubricant. Did know someone once who ate a block of butter like a choc ice

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:43 am

Uncle Kram wrote: Always keep "I Can't Believe It's Not Utterly Butterly" in the Fridge.

Alternatively, be like me and lead a butter-free life. Moist bread dispenses with the need for a lubricant. Did know someone once who ate a block of butter like a choc ice

You make sandwiches sound dirty. I like that !

Alfred · Post by **Alfred** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:16 am

wow...4 pages on butter

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:18 am

Alfred wrote: wow...4 pages on butter
Wow...one post on the number of pages on the topic of butter. :yh_bigsmi :yh_giggle

(Can you tell I'm bored?)

Alfred · Post by **Alfred** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:26 am

no not quite...give it some more time perhaps.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:29 am

Alfred wrote: no not quite...give it some more time perhaps.
???

Give what some more time?

Alfred · Post by **Alfred** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:14 am

time to figure out your bored, why are you bored?

silverfox · Post by **silverfox** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:27 am

Butter should only be refrigerated for long term storage. Cut off your daily ration and leave out to soften is what I do but for the BEST butttered toast here in Wales UK I use a warmed knife to cut thick slithers off the COLD butter which then slowly melts on the toast that has been allowed to cool slightly then spread thickly with marmalade - decadent of what? (Tip. Have tissues handy in case of butter running down your wrist! - best not eaten in bed - the crumbs and stickiness is not conducive to romance! LOL :wah:

Alfred · Post by **Alfred** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:26 pm

of course don't refridgerate it for too long.

our butter has kind'a frozen which means i can only realy spread it on toast.

robinseggs · Post by **robinseggs** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:27 pm

Ahhhhhh there you are Alfred....now you're in the thick of it!!! Couldn't resist could you?!! lol....

Butter--a lovely topic!

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:38 pm

Honey butter.....now theres a topic !

Alfred · Post by **Alfred** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:00 pm

robinseggs wrote: Ahhhhhh there you are Alfred....now you're in the thick of it!!! Couldn't resist could you?!! lol....

Butter--a lovely topic!

i admit it i'm hooked to this thread, i actually don't fancy butter that much.

but none the less i'll go microwave some picklets and put some buter and cinnimon on them.

Wolverine · Post by **Wolverine** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:01 am

robinseggs wrote: What is "FatKids"?? You mean fat kids? My kids aren't fat! lol

......and I'm not either.....lol
no being a FatKid(one word) is a title, an attitude, a lifestyle, and a very discerning Members Only group.

We are Gluttons. Not just with food but with everything we do:

Work too long

Drink too much

Smoke a lot

play too often(with too many others)

when we finally sleep it's for days at a time.

We are excessive in every endeavor. That is what it is to be a FatKid.

Very few requirements(but more is better)

at least 25 years old

minimum of 20 pounds overweight

at least one bad habit.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:09 am

I hate to see this thread go. Butter is such a vast topic.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:19 am

I havn't looked as this thread as frankly life is too short, but I will let you know that at one time the Irish government thought it so important that people had access to real butter that they issued the unemployed with butter vouchers, yes specific vouchers that were only meant to be used to purchase 2 pounds of butter a week, which is to my mind quite a lot of butter in one week, but then again, what would we do without it. Of course, this enlightened scheme was heavily abused by the unscrupulous, and butter vouchers were soon used to purchase that most important of Irish commodities, drink. Anyway, I think you can tell from this how importantly Irish people regard the yellow gold, oh gold is yellow as well isn't it, well the melty yellow gold.

As to putting it in the fridge, sacrilige, except in August.

StupidCowboyTricks · Post by **StupidCowboyTricks** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:38 am

Galbally wrote: I havn't looked as this thread as frankly life is too short, but I will let you know that at one time the Irish government thought it so important that people had access to real butter that they issued the unemployed with butter vouchers, yes specific vouchers that were only meant to be used to purchase 2 pounds of butter a week, which is to my mind quite a lot of butter in one week, but then again, what would we do without it. Of course, this enlightened scheme was heavily abused by the unscrupulous, and butter vouchers were soon used to purchase that most important of Irish commodities, drink. Anyway, I think you can tell from this how importantly Irish people regard the yellow gold, oh gold is yellow as well isn't it, well the melty yellow gold.

As to putting it in the fridge, sacrilige, except in August.
Can you believe that some people actually prefer margarine to butter?