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Ahso!;1425655 wrote: It's already been said: "The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."
Agreed, but what has that to do with this thread? No one had guns except the police.

Here's some good advice for you, Ahso:Ahso!;1425416 wrote: Try staying on topic.

Try following along.

Ahso!;1425655 wrote: It's already been said: "The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."


Try staying on track.

You said

Ahso!;1425655 wrote: Yeah, so the gun lobby can make the case that these two would have been caught or gunned down a lot sooner had Massachusetts had more LIBERAL gun laws. Phucking liberals.

Ahso!;1425662 wrote: Try following along.
You're trying to pull the thread off topic and onto your little pet peeve. You have a dozen or so threads already dedicated to your hoplophobia. This is about a terrorist bombing.

Accountable;1425665 wrote:

This is about a terrorist bombing.


Not strickly No it's not.

It is about the way a country that insists it's citizens remain free to arm themselves against tyranical government rolled onto their back like a puppy, while a military style police force ran riot through their town.

The 'Terrorist ' threat was really two disillussioned young Americans with roots elswhere.

A problem exacerbated by a show of arms, wouldn't you say ?

pretty much. but that's TV for ya .

Bruv;1425680 wrote: Not strickly No it's not.

It is about the way a country that insists it's citizens remain free to arm themselves against tyranical government rolled onto their back like a puppy, while a military style police force ran riot through their town.

The 'Terrorist ' threat was really two disillussioned young Americans with roots elswhere.

A problem exacerbated by a show of arms, wouldn't you say ?
If they had taken hostages I'd likely be agreeing with you. I agree with your description of the situation, but how was it exacerbated by a show of arms? I assume you mean by the police, since no one else showed any.

The biggest problem here, imo, is that the rest of the country is generally supportive of the police-state tactics. That wasn't exacerbated by a show of arms; it was revealed by it.

The young Americans would have been disillusioned with or without the show of arms.

The disillusionment is partly if not completely due to America's military stance throughout the world.

That stance is aimed at Muslim radicals, if you were a Chechen youth you might take it personal.

The sight of a para military police force searching for a muslim youth might recruit more disilussioned youth to the cause.

The use of military force has done the same everywhere else it has been used in the world.

Accountable;1425687 wrote: If they had taken hostages I'd likely be agreeing with you. I agree with your description of the situation, but how was it exacerbated by a show of arms? I assume you mean by the police, since no one else showed any.



The biggest problem here, imo, is that the rest of the country is generally supportive of the police-state tactics. That wasn't exacerbated by a show of arms; it was revealed by it.

The young Americans would have been disillusioned with or without the show of arms.


When you say 'the rest of the country' , does that exclude the people of boston or are they riled up about this now? I really don't know , as I've been busy in the real world lately.:-3



I'm still trying to figure out what would have been the better response to the situation.

flopstock;1425691 wrote: When you say 'the rest of the country' , does that exclude the people of boston or are they riled up about this now? I really don't know , as I've been busy in the real world lately.:-3



I'm still trying to figure out what would have been the better response to the situation.
I can't comment on the majority of Bostonians, but the media portrayed them as being in full support of the lockdown.

As for a better response, Bruv has commented several times on how similar situations were handled without martial law. (I typed "marital law" twice before getting it right. Freudian? :yh_think)