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Ahso!;1425655 wrote: It's already been said: "The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."
Agreed, but what has that to do with this thread? No one had guns except the police.

Here's some good advice for you, Ahso:Ahso!;1425416 wrote: Try staying on topic.
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Ahso!;1425655 wrote: It's already been said: "The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."


Try staying on track.

You said

Ahso!;1425655 wrote: Yeah, so the gun lobby can make the case that these two would have been caught or gunned down a lot sooner had Massachusetts had more LIBERAL gun laws. Phucking liberals.
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Ahso!;1425662 wrote: Try following along.
You're trying to pull the thread off topic and onto your little pet peeve. You have a dozen or so threads already dedicated to your hoplophobia. This is about a terrorist bombing.
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Accountable;1425665 wrote:

This is about a terrorist bombing.


Not strickly No it's not.

It is about the way a country that insists it's citizens remain free to arm themselves against tyranical government rolled onto their back like a puppy, while a military style police force ran riot through their town.

The 'Terrorist ' threat was really two disillussioned young Americans with roots elswhere.

A problem exacerbated by a show of arms, wouldn't you say ?
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pretty much. but that's TV for ya .
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Bruv;1425680 wrote: Not strickly No it's not.

It is about the way a country that insists it's citizens remain free to arm themselves against tyranical government rolled onto their back like a puppy, while a military style police force ran riot through their town.

The 'Terrorist ' threat was really two disillussioned young Americans with roots elswhere.

A problem exacerbated by a show of arms, wouldn't you say ?
If they had taken hostages I'd likely be agreeing with you. I agree with your description of the situation, but how was it exacerbated by a show of arms? I assume you mean by the police, since no one else showed any.

The biggest problem here, imo, is that the rest of the country is generally supportive of the police-state tactics. That wasn't exacerbated by a show of arms; it was revealed by it.

The young Americans would have been disillusioned with or without the show of arms.
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The disillusionment is partly if not completely due to America's military stance throughout the world.

That stance is aimed at Muslim radicals, if you were a Chechen youth you might take it personal.

The sight of a para military police force searching for a muslim youth might recruit more disilussioned youth to the cause.

The use of military force has done the same everywhere else it has been used in the world.
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Accountable;1425687 wrote: If they had taken hostages I'd likely be agreeing with you. I agree with your description of the situation, but how was it exacerbated by a show of arms? I assume you mean by the police, since no one else showed any.



The biggest problem here, imo, is that the rest of the country is generally supportive of the police-state tactics. That wasn't exacerbated by a show of arms; it was revealed by it.

The young Americans would have been disillusioned with or without the show of arms.


When you say 'the rest of the country' , does that exclude the people of boston or are they riled up about this now? I really don't know , as I've been busy in the real world lately.:-3



I'm still trying to figure out what would have been the better response to the situation.:thinking:
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flopstock;1425691 wrote: When you say 'the rest of the country' , does that exclude the people of boston or are they riled up about this now? I really don't know , as I've been busy in the real world lately.:-3



I'm still trying to figure out what would have been the better response to the situation.:thinking:
I can't comment on the majority of Bostonians, but the media portrayed them as being in full support of the lockdown.

As for a better response, Bruv has commented several times on how similar situations were handled without martial law. (I typed "marital law" twice before getting it right. Freudian? :yh_think)
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