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xfrodobagginsx;1520379 wrote: So, according to this graph, Obama did nothing for blacks in his first term. Black unemployment went way up. The first year or so of his second term went up to it's previously high unemployment rate among them and then it went down for a few years. Then Trump took office and pushed it much higher. Ok thanks. Obama had the worst economic recovery after a recession of any President in History because of Socialism. Trump 2020.


You are, once again, demonstrating your amazingly complete ignorance of economics.

I am not claiming to be an expert on the subject, but my reading comprehension surpasses yours by leaps and bounds.

LarsMac;1520380 wrote: You are, once again, demonstrating your amazingly complete ignorance of economics.

I am not claiming to be an expert on the subject, but my reading comprehension surpasses yours by leaps and bounds.


Look at the graph again.

It seems to me that xfrod is both willfully blind and brainwashed.

I do not worry about getting to heaven when I die. IK trust in God and whatever will be will be. Playing the fear game is anti-Christian.

xfrodobagginsx;1520382 wrote: Look at the graph again.


I did.

Ted;1520390 wrote: I do not worry about getting to heaven when I die. IK trust in God and whatever will be will be. Playing the fear game is anti-Christian.


So then you don't believe Jesus because Jesus said that He was the only way to the Father.

LarsMac;1520391 wrote: I did.


The graph shows that it got worse for all 4 years of Obama's first term and the 1st year of his second term. The last 3 it went up and then when Trump took over it went WAY up to record levels in Trump's first year.

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Ted;1520389 wrote: It seems to me that xfrod is both willfully blind and brainwashed.


Not blind nor am I brainwashed but you are.

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LarsMac;1520380 wrote: You are, once again, demonstrating your amazingly complete ignorance of economics.

I am not claiming to be an expert on the subject, but my reading comprehension surpasses yours by leaps and bounds.


So what you are saying is that my Facts aren't true? Uh, yes they are. You must not understand economics. High GDP=Good. Low unemployment=Good. Low taxes=Good. High wages=Good. Low welfare rolls=Good.

Proverbs 15:2

Proverbs 26:4

Proverbs 29:9

Or perhaps, Mark Twain's interpretation would do.

Have a nice day, Bob.

LarsMac;1520555 wrote: Proverbs 15:2

Proverbs 26:4

Proverbs 29:9

Or perhaps, Mark Twain's interpretation would do.

Have a nice day, Bob.


The wise man is the one who trusts in Jesus Christ and the Word of God. Are you saying that you do that now?

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xfrodobagginsx;1058898 wrote: ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?

There are some things that you should know:

1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:

Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

This all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain which this world sees is the result of sin.

2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross for you:

Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. for us."

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Even if we lie one time, the punishment is hell, which is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already committed a sin which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the president can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die.

3. If you will confess to Jesus Christ that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior, accept Him as Lord and Savior and believe in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead you will be saved.

Joh 1:12 Joh 1:12 “But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name

Ro 10:9,10 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.."

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus and asking Him to forgive you for your sins and save you. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven if they do these things, but the bible says that there is only one way to heaven and that is through receiving what Jesus Christ did on the cross for you.

Will you do that today? If you will, you can be 100% sure that you will go to heaven when you die.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD FOR YOUR SINS?



ARE YOU WILLING TO TURN TO JESUS CHRIST FOR SALVATION?

4. If you are willing to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior please humble yourself before God and pray this prayer to Him from your heart:

"Dear LORD JESUS, I believe that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead for my sins. I repent and turn to You, placing my faith in you for salvation. I now receive You as my Lord and Savior. Thank You for saving me. In Jesus holy name, Amen."

If you prayed that prayer to God, and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven when you die.

Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.


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FourPart;1520636 wrote: Aron Ra at the Ark Encounter...


Is that your name?

FourPart;1520636 wrote: Aron Ra at the Ark Encounter...


Are you referring to Raider's Of The Lost Ark?

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That just proves that Germany has its share of ignorant Bigots, just like the rest of the world.

LarsMac;1520674 wrote: That just proves that Germany has its share of ignorant Bigots, just like the rest of the world.


So you must not be seeing the videos and reports of the violence being committed by crowds muslims. Destroying ancient grave sites, raping European women for nor wearin hijab, rioting, beating up europeans for not following Islamic culture, no go zones where non muslims aren't allowed, ect. Is this stuff acceptable to you?

xfrodobagginsx;1520683 wrote: So you must not be seeing the videos and reports of the violence being committed by crowds muslims. Destroying ancient grave sites, raping European women for nor wearin hijab, rioting, beating up europeans for not following Islamic culture, no go zones where non muslims aren't allowed, ect. Is this stuff acceptable to you?


I have friends and co-workers in many countries in Europe.

They say most of that is BS. There has been some unrest, but nothing like the Fright Wing extremists would have people like you believing.

What is not acceptable to me is the ranting of ignorant bigots.

LarsMac;1520684 wrote: I have friends and co-workers in many countries in Europe.

They say most of that is BS. There has been some unrest, but nothing like the Fright Wing extremists would have people like you believing.

What is not acceptable to me is the ranting of ignorant bigots.


Just because the Left Wing Media of Europe chooses to ignore these types of stories, just as the Left Wing Media of the US does because it doesn't fit their agenda, doesn't make the videos false. I have talked to many people who lived abroad also and they were victims of islamic violence.

The people who excuse the violence of one religion and hate another religion for merely speaking their beliefs but isn't violent, are the biggots.

xfrodobagginsx;1520726 wrote: ...

The people who excuse the violence of one religion and hate another religion for merely speaking their beliefs but isn't violent, are the biggots.


I could not agree with you more. The violence of radical Religious people in the US has long been ignored by many of the religious leaders here.

When I was young I witnessed much such violence.

Selma, Birmingham, Montgomery, to name a few. And it goes on even today.

LarsMac;1520727 wrote: I could not agree with you more. The violence of radical Religious people in the US has long been ignored by many of the religious leaders here.

When I was young I witnessed much such violence.

Selma, Birmingham, Montgomery, to name a few. And it goes on even today.


The Christians in the US aren't the violent ones. It's the Left Wing Liberal Socialists. Facts are facts. 90% of the time when there is a mass shooting or violence it comes from them. I witness the violence all of the time via the news.

xfrodd that is a load of bs. Shooting abortion doctors, . picketing at the funerals of Gay folks., the likes of Phelps running around with a gun He does not fit the Christianity I understand. Let's not forget Robertson calling for the assassination of the president of Venezuela a few years back. I've spent the last 14 months in Europe and I have not seen that nonsense. It is not that I haven't seen what is going on it is that it is not as bad as some Christians wish it were. Jesus would not permit his disciples to defend him with the sword would most certainly not appreciate the things I have mentioned. and that I see in North America.These issues are not Christian but the evil crap of some human beings. spewed forth in their ignorance.

Ted;1520755 wrote: xfrodd that is a load of bs. Shooting abortion doctors, . picketing at the funerals of Gay folks., the likes of Phelps running around with a gun He does not fit the Christianity I understand. Let's not forget Robertson calling for the assassination of the president of Venezuela a few years back. I've spent the last 14 months in Europe and I have not seen that nonsense. It is not that I haven't seen what is going on it is that it is not as bad as some Christians wish it were. Jesus would not permit his disciples to defend him with the sword would most certainly not appreciate the things I have mentioned. and that I see in North America.These issues are not Christian but the evil crap of some human beings. spewed forth in their ignorance.


#1 How many abortion doctors have been shot by Christians in the last 20 years? Almost zero. There have been isolated cases of it happening. Let's contrast that to Liberals gunning down Politicians. Giffords was shot by a Democrat. The Congressional Baseball shooting was done by a Democrat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Cong ... l_shooting The rioters of the Occupy Wallstreet were Democrats. The people starting riots at Trump rallies were Democrats. Whenever a Conservative speaker tries to speak on a College campus, the Democrats riot to the point where they cancel the event. The Boston Marathon Bombing was done by a Democrat Islamic Terrorist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Marathon_bombing

The people picketing funerals of Gay people are a tiny fraction and 99.9% of Christians would condemn what they are doing as Anti Christian. Unlike when an islamic terrorist murders you hear a tiny fraction of muslims speak out against it. No one advocates mistreating gay people EVER. It's a lie. Disagreeing with it doesn't mean you hate them. I have many gay people on my Facebook page that are my friends and know I am a strong Christian. Pat Robertson calling for the assassination of the Dictator who is destroying the people of Venezuala. Hmm...I will leave that unsaid.

Not seeing something first hand doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Go into a no go zone and get back to me if you survive. We don't wish it were bad, we wish Europe didn't turn it's back on Christianity. It will be the downfall of Europe. We are mostly European decent and we care about what's happening there. The only reason Jesus didn't allow His disciples to defend Him was because He needed to go to the cross and pay for our sins at that time. Jesus also commanded His disciples to sell their cloak and buy a sword for protection. So owning guns for protection would be advocated by Jesus, not just protection from criminals, but also protection from the Government should they get out of control like Britain did in the 1700s.

If you want to determine what is Christian you cannot go by what makes you feel good, you have to look at what the Bible says. Jesus would condemn islam as a false religion. In fact, Jesus condemned all religions other than Judaism at that time.

Xfrpd open your eyes and ears these things happen in all religions at varying times The supposed Christians can be just as evil as the Islamic extremists. They and many folks who consider themselves Christians have no Idea what that term en-tales..

The Biblical literalists have never been able to tell us when this "heaven"" actually is.

Ted;1520768 wrote: Xfrpd open your eyes and ears these things happen in all religions at varying times The supposed Christians can be just as evil as the Islamic extremists. They and many folks who consider themselves Christians have no Idea what that term en-tales..


#1 muslims commit violence 1000x as much as Christians and are doing what the quran actually says to do.

#2 Christians who commit violence are NOT doing what the Bible actually says to do.

Big difference.

xfrod do you have a clue as to what you are talking about? I think not. The dirt that flies around in American politics denies anything Christian. One Evangelist calling for the assassination of the president of a president of a foreign country and some or many think he is a Christian. No they have no idea as to what Christianity is about, not one iota.

It really is amazing what politics does to the human mind.: Pigs fly, Humans can jump 80 feet, black becomes white, red becomes green.. They ignore some issues and latch unto others. The shooting of abortion doctors is evil whether it be one Dr. or 100 it is too many. Even the death of one is too many.dsd

Ted;1520771 wrote: The Biblical literalists have never been able to tell us when this "heaven"" actually is.


The only information that we have regarding the placement of heaven is that there are 3 of them and that the one God lives in is the highest heaven. It's way up above the atmosphere and above the universe is what Bible scholars say. It's a spiritual place, but just as real as any physical place.

I simply don't believe that.. If I remember correctly I believe it was Paul who supposedly went to the 7th heaven.

Up there, under my chair, In the Semi, over there, or a figment of ones Imagination?????Where.

Ted;1520786 wrote: xfrod do you have a clue as to what you are talking about? I think not. The dirt that flies around in American politics denies anything Christian. One Evangelist calling for the assassination of the president of a president of a foreign country and some or many think he is a Christian. No they have no idea as to what Christianity is about, not one iota.


From the Democrats you are fully correct. They are Nazi, Socialists. Liberals calling for the assassination of the Great President Trump. How evil they are. People who don't believe what the Bible says have no idea what Christianity is, yet they act like they do. Interesting.

xfrod with that last statement I'm totally convinced you are brainwashed. The man that called for the assassination of the presider of of Venezuela was a reppublican, Pat Robertson a republican... The man who I believed lied his way into the white house is a republican named Donald. I personally do not believe in the existence of the Devil but If he does exist his name is Donald and he lives in the white house. These people have the gaul to call themselves Christians!. They have absolutely no Idea what being Christian is all about.

Ted;1520815 wrote: I simply don't believe that.. If I remember correctly I believe it was Paul who supposedly went to the 7th heaven.


No, it was the third heaven.



2Co 12:2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.

Scholars believe that Paul went to the third heaven after being stoned to death for sharing the gospel. His soul left his body and went to heaven and he heard and saw things that he was not allowed to share, but he basically said that they were magnificent.

Ted;1520819 wrote: Up there, under my chair, In the Semi, over there, or a figment of ones Imagination?????Where.


Hmmm...that's an odd one.

Ted;1520879 wrote: xfrod with that last statement I'm totally convinced you are brainwashed. The man that called for the assassination of the presider of of Venezuela was a reppublican, Pat Robertson a republican... The man who I believed lied his way into the white house is a republican named Donald. I personally do not believe in the existence of the Devil but If he does exist his name is Donald and he lives in the white house. These people have the gaul to call themselves Christians!. They have absolutely no Idea what being Christian is all about.


And I'm totally convinced that you are. I hope the President of Venezuela does get assassinated. He is a dictator and oppressing his people. Pat Robertson...good man. Donald Trump=One of the best Presidents ever. Donald Trump did some bad things when he was a Democrat and they loved him for it. Now that he is a Republican and doing good things they hate him. People who don't read the Bible or don't believe the Bible and then try to tell actual Christians who obey the Bible that they don't know what Christianity is all about crack me up. It's YOU who doesn't know what being a Christian is all about.

Ted;1520815 wrote: I simply don't believe that.. If I remember correctly I believe it was Paul who supposedly went to the 7th heaven.


There are only 3 heavens mentioned in the Bible.