Rochdale

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:12 am

Oscar Namechange;1463488 wrote: It's In the link Fourpart gave... thrown out of the Party.
Afterwards, though.

My point wasn't to exonerate Labour offenders - as I've said, regardless of Party Politics they should still have to face the music for whatever it is they've done. The point of my unedited link was to prove that far from there not being any Tory, Liberal or God forbid, any BNP convictions, there's no shortage of them in ALL parties, but more Tories & Liberals than the others, which just goes to show the plausibility of someone whose job it is to scour out such things. Obviously, as I've said earlier, I would expect actual BNP figures to be less, due to the no-hoper size of the party, but interpreted on a per capita basis it ranks them pretty high.

Besides, we could even add you to the list.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:31 am

FourPart;1463508 wrote: Afterwards, though.

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Then tell me how exactly ?

In 2009, the BNP membership stood at over one million. Do you propose the Chairman carry out Individual psychological profiling on every single one of those million who submitted a membership form?

Do you propose the Labour and Conservative Party be able to do the same?

Of course not. The best any Chairman can do Is expel them the moment they get flagged up and come to the attention of the Party.

That's why George Galloway and Lutfer Rahmen were expelled from the Labour Party, when they come to the attention of others. Until then, It's Impossible.

Or do you have a better Idea?

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:45 pm

That's exactly what I was saying. You came across as inferring (intentionally or otherwise) that the crimes were committed AFTER he had been kicked out of the party, not before. Which, I suppose is all part of a prospective Politicians art (of any party) - to weave the facts so that they fall in line with how you want it to come across.

As the saying goes...

"There's Lies, Damned Lies, and Government Statistics".

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:26 am

A day of action Is planned In Rotherham to counteract the day of action by the Far Right by the UAF, ( Unite Against Facisim ) on 13th September.

They are not protesting against child exploitation but supporting the men Involved.

Only In Britain !!!!!

Look like a bunch of the great unwashed to me.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:18 pm

It's true that like poles repel.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:48 am

FourPart;1463717 wrote: It's true that like poles repel. What they hope for, Is that a Far Right Org will also turn up so they can kick off and then say to the media, ' Look what those nasty Far Righters did'.

Same old, same old. Yawn

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:57 am

The question is, who are 'they'? It seems the description applies to all the related groups. EDF, BNP, NF, Respect - even ISIS. I still can't see any real difference between them all. Same sort of agendas. Same sort of techniques.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:44 am

FourPart;1463783 wrote: The question is, who are 'they'? It seems the description applies to all the related groups. EDF, BNP, NF, Respect - even ISIS. I still can't see any real difference between them all. Same sort of agendas. Same sort of techniques.

We have In our possession a photograph of 6 people of the UAF holding up a banner advertising the day of action. I am not going to put the photograph here although It was taken In a public street as you can clearly see the faces.

The banner states ' Government funded counter protest supporting Muslim paedophile and child rape gangs. It's In the Q'uran. It Is their right to rape.

Hard to believe eh? One of them has been Identified as an alleged child abuser.

The country fears the Far Right movement ? Really ??? The country needs to look further than their noses.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:22 pm

The banner sound more like something the BNP would carry to me.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:45 pm

FourPart;1463815 wrote: The banner sound more like something the BNP would carry to me.

Shame you're not on Facebook with me, I'd send you the photograph.

How many BNP banners have you seen ?

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:53 pm

Not likely to in Southampton - I think the number of BNP supporters is probably in single figures.

Besides, regardless of what the party, or what the cause, I've never really seen the point of banners, as the only ones who take any notice of them are those that are already their supporters - preaching to the converted. Not only that, who's going to take any notice of a banner that comes across more as an editorial?

You all have one thing in common. You centre your campaign focus around promoting hatred- just as all other jumped up dictators have done throughout history.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:58 pm

[QUOTE=FourPart;1463824]Not likely to in Southampton - I think the number of BNP supporters is probably in single figures.

Besides, regardless of what the party, or what the cause, I've never really seen the point of banners, as the only ones who take any notice of them are those that are already their supporters - preaching to the converted. Not only that, who's going to take any notice of a banner that comes across more as an editorial?

You all have one thing in common. You centre your campaign focus around promoting hatred- just as all other jumped up dictators have done throughout history.[

You are kidding !! Southampton comes under my region of The South West. Southampton has one of the biggest branches numbers wise In the region.

Hatred Is your perspective. I see hatred as the Illegal Invasion of Iraq. The Illegal occupation of Afghanistan. The never ending moves to overthrow Assad as the West hunted down and overthrew Gadaffi.... that's hatred. Yet, If your government dresses It up In enough lies and Bulls,hit, you believe It.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 2:12 pm

is this it ?

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 2:19 pm

I need to know if the placard is supposed to be genuine.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 2:26 pm

kazalala;1463831 wrote: is this it ?

You nicked that off my Facebook status didn't you Mrs ? :wah:

Bruv.... It came from a UAF site and apparently It's genuine. Several sources have checked It out. Yet, to be fair, It could be a massive hoax. Going by their previous banners, It does have the same ring and tone to It.

Anyway, I have advised the members In Rotherham that should they see this banner, not to get Involved but just to ring the police.

Ehat can't be denied, Is that the UAF are protesting on that day defending the groomers... that alone Is abhorant.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 2:50 pm

It has to be explained to me to make any sense, I just don't get it.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:02 pm

It looks suspiciously PhotoShopped to me. The letters don't quite tally with the curves in the material.

I just looked at it in my Photo Shop & zoomed right in. All the edges of the lettering have been edited.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:04 pm

Bruv;1463835 wrote: It has to be explained to me to make any sense, I just don't get it.

What's to explain? It's what they do.

https://kafircrusaders.wordpress.com/ta ... t-fascism/

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:17 pm

As I thought - it's not even the same protest. The protest in question was over the shooting of Michael Brown.

Note the same protestors with the same placards....

Hands Up! London protest against racist Police Shootings in US and UK | Demotix.com

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:42 pm

FourPart;1463839 wrote: As I thought - it's not even the same protest. The protest in question was over the shooting of Michael Brown.

Note the same protestors with the same placards....

Hands Up! London protest against racist Police Shootings in US and UK | Demotix.com

I don't understand what you are getting at.

The UAF demonstrate on everything and anything. The link you provided, was a demo by the UAF In August. The demo In Rotherham supporting Groomers Is scheduled for 13th September ie, It hasn't taken place yet. The banner Kaz posted Is merely an advertisment for the forthcoming event.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:52 pm

The photo is a faked one of a Socialist Worker protest about the shooting of Michael Brown.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:04 pm

My point is that the banner is fake. The photo was taken at an event before the Rotherham business even came to light.

As for the Demo supporting Muslim Groomers - what a load of bollocks. How can you imagine ANYBODY attempting to even think of such a thing. Such claims are beneath the worst propagandists.

The UAF website promoting the protest takes on a TOTALLY different view.

Unite Against Fascism | Justice for the victims of child sexual exploitation – We will not let the racists divide us

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:07 pm

Oscar Namechange;1463838 wrote: What's to explain? It's what they do.

https://kafircrusaders.wordpress.com/ta ... t-fascism/

Are you asking me to take that as serious evidence of anything other than there are some nutters in the world that blog ?

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:11 pm

Of course there are - they're known as the Blogging Nutters Party.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:49 pm

Bruv;1463850 wrote: Are you asking me to take that as serious evidence of anything other than there are some nutters in the world that blog ?

The UAF Is no different to any other Party or Org In that It attracts nutters. The Labour has them, the Tories have them, and we have them. The same with the UAF.

There are members of the UAF who are Indeed standing up for the victims but also they have the nutters supporting the Groomers.

The UAF claim on some sites, that their counter protest Is a protest about the EDL protesting. As usual, nowhere do they mention the BNP, NF or BF, 4 other Parties and Orgs. As usual, they're sole purpose Is to engage the EDL. Just google ' UAF attack police youtube' and you'll see the video's. The UAF's target Is the EDL..

As we speak, there Is a large group of EDL camping on the doorstep of Rotherham police station and they have been there for 8 nights now. They claim they are not budging until Shaun Wright resigns. It's a peaceful protest and there has been no trouble thus far. If they are still there on 13th September, It's a foregone conclusion that they will Immediately target those EDL camped out and history will repeat Itself.

If they wanted to counter protest, they could have done It on the day 4 Far Right Orgs flooded Rotherham. They didn't.

So, they make no sense... If Indeed, they want to support victims In Rotherham, why publisize they are counter protesting the EDL for protesting about Groomers?

Why not just stay away?

Typical UAF, claiming their violence Is to counter protest those nasty Far Right, racists, the EDL but Invariably, It always ends like this.

UAF - Celebrating Violence Against Women in Tower Hamlets - YouTube

EDL bus attacked by Asian men following protest meeting in East London | Mail Online

Historically, the UAF rock up where the EDL are going to be. They throw bottles etc and then the police are called. When the police turn up, the UAF attack the police then run to the media saying ' see, this Is the EDL'

Same old same old... seen It over and over again. The truth Is, the UAF don't give a flying fox about victims. It's all about engaging the EDL to have them ultimately shut down by Government.

Small UAF anti-EDL rally dissolves into attack on Police | Demotix.com

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:17 am

Oscar Namechange;1463833 wrote: You nicked that off my Facebook status didn't you Mrs ? :wah:

Bruv.... It came from a UAF site and apparently It's genuine. Several sources have checked It out. Yet, to be fair, It could be a massive hoax. Going by their previous banners, It does have the same ring and tone to It.

Anyway, I have advised the members In Rotherham that should they see this banner, not to get Involved but just to ring the police.

Ehat can't be denied, Is that the UAF are protesting on that day defending the groomers... that alone Is abhorant.

Yep

I have to agree with four part that it may be photo shopped tho,, the letters do seem to stay straight where theres a bend in the banner.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 5:27 am

The central female with a rather fetching turban is Zita Holbourne who is seen in another image with Marcia Rigg sister of Sean Rigg none of which marries with the legend on that banner.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 6:55 am

At least this one's more plausible.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:35 am

FourPart;1463871 wrote: At least this one's more plausible.

Posted by Fourpart

Not likely to in Southampton - I think the number of BNP supporters is probably in single figures.

So, this Is coming from the man so on the cutting edge of politics that out of thousands of names on the BNP membership lists and all the cities In the UK, you believed BNP members only lived ' oup Norrff ' ?

:yh_youkid:yh_youkid:yh_youkid:yh_youkid:yh_youkid

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:40 pm

If scotland votes yes what will the BNP call themselves then?

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:44 pm

Oscar Namechange;1463876 wrote: Posted by Fourpart

Not likely to in Southampton - I think the number of BNP supporters is probably in single figures.

So, this Is coming from the man so on the cutting edge of politics that out of thousands of names on the BNP membership lists and all the cities In the UK, you believed BNP members only lived ' oup Norrff ' ?

:yh_youkid:yh_youkid:yh_youkid:yh_youkid:yh_youkid
If, as you say, Southampton has the highest membership in the whole country, then explain how come we've never had so much as a BNP Councillor here, let alone an M.P.?

With the supposed raging support for the BNP having all these BNPs winning seats (albeit short-lived ones), wouldn't it make more sense that the most likely ward for them to gain a seat (let alone maintain one) would be where they're supposed to have the most support? Get real.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:43 pm

FourPart;1463939 wrote: If, as you say, Southampton has the highest membership in the whole country, then explain how come we've never had so much as a BNP Councillor here, let alone an M.P.?

With the supposed raging support for the BNP having all these BNPs winning seats (albeit short-lived ones), wouldn't it make more sense that the most likely ward for them to gain a seat (let alone maintain one) would be where they're supposed to have the most support? Get real.

I am not talking about Council and Seats being won In Southampton. I am talking about numbers on the Southampton memberships lists and how many of those attend monthly Branch Meetings.

It was your preconceived Idea that BNP numbers In Southampton are In the single figures.

In the Ward of City of Southampton alone, there were over 500 votes and that Is not taking Into account the other Wards within Southampton such as Shirley, Coxford, Hillbrook etc etc. Combining numbers for the entire Southampton area puts those on the membership list and those attending Branch Meetings monthly for the area In the hundreds or thousands and not the single figures as you claim. I'm not saying that every BNP voter In Southampton Is a member of the Party, but a sizable number are. Compared to some other Soutern cities, Southampton Is a sizable branch.

Why no elected Councillors or MP's for Southampton ? Not every member of the BNP In any area will want to put In all that effort of a campaign bid, If those Wards are safe Seats. In the 2014 EU elections, we only stood one candidate for your area and that was Southampton City Ward. However, It doesn't mean that just because there was no candidates In your other Wards, there are no BNP members. It just means, they had no candidate to vote for.

If you look at some cities and their Wards for the North of England, you'll see the BNP vote was as high as 13 %. If you think that's a small part of the electorate then you have to bear In mind, the BNP Is not a mainstream but fringe Party. In some Wards, the Lib Dems got beaten by the BNP.

Like any Party, the BNP target area's likely of a win. EG, During the BNP's peak In 2009, we targeted In particular, Stoke-On-Trent winning and having 9 elected Councillors for that area out of the 112 the Party won over the country.

There Is no point In running campaigns where sare seats are held.

Another example... why do you think Politicians target unsafe Seats? Such as Farage declaring he's standing for South Thanet? It's because of that Ward swinging back and forward giving them a good chance of winning. Do you think George Galloway targeted Bradford for no reason given that he had never even lived In the area. ?

It's not just about winning an election. It's about not risking deposits and losses to the Party In area's candidates know they can not win. However, It does not mean that because the Party did not stand candidates In some Wards and did not win Councils or Seats, that there are no members In those area's as you seem to think

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:46 am

500 votes in a city the size of Southampton. Wow, that IS impressive .

Assuming that each member votes for his / her own party, along with a few of their mates, and all the protest votes being made to non-starters, I would have expected at least 5000 (or did you miss a '0').

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:13 am

FourPart;1463968 wrote: 500 votes in a city the size of Southampton. Wow, that IS impressive .

Assuming that each member votes for his / her own party, along with a few of their mates, and all the protest votes being made to non-starters, I would have expected at least 5000 (or did you miss a '0').

You are really not getting this are you ?

You claimed BNP members In the Southampton area were In the single numbers.

Do you actually have an Idea of the population of the City of Southampton ? I am not Including other Wards In Southampton here, just that Ward.

Do you actually know the turnout percentage for that Ward during the EU election because I hate to tell you this but It's all relevant.

We are not talking about millions of people In that Ward, but thousands. If the turnout was 37 % then that makes the 500 plus votes far more relevant. Add to that the fact that the BNP Is not a mainstream Party and It becomes far more relevant. Now add all those other Wards. You can not calculate how many BNP members are In those other Wards because there are no votes to go by given we did not stand candidates In them.

This Is all based on you claiming that BNP numbers In Southampton are In the single figures and sorry, but you don't have a clue what you are talking about. The difference between you and I, Is that I have membership lists so no, they are not protest votes. People don't spend money on yearly membership just to make a protest vote at the polls.

Claiming that the BNP members In Southampton Is In single figures Is a ridulous claim. Just because you don't like something, just because you don't see or hear It, does not mean that it doesn't exist.

You are the one that needs to get real.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:34 am

Turnout doesn't even come into it, so don't come that with me. The same argument of proportions applies to ALL parties. The turnout in May was 33%, which, in the event of a 100% turnout would make their vote (theoretically) 1500. However it would also multiply the others by 3. As I recall, Labour were narrowly beaten in the EU elections by UKIP, who got 16000, with Labour something like 15000 - and that's WITHOUT taking into account a fantasy 100% turnout.

My point is that even if the Monster Raving Looney Party had been standing they would have got far more votes than the BNP - and they make more sense. Even if a housebrick, not affilated to ANY party - hence a membership of 1 (if a housebrick can be a member of a party) would probably amass a couple of hundred sympathy / protest votes (as well as his own, if it could vote). My point is that I would have thought that all these devoted, subscription paying members would at least go out & vote, and if the membership was as great as you claim, then their votes alone would have amassed more than the membership you claim - and that's WITHOUT any of the protest / sympathy votes. Therefore - 1 housebrick gets 100 votes - 5 housebricks get 500 votes. See the connection?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:37 pm

Back to Roherham.

I predict a riot Saturday

Police Leave has been cancelled.

With the UAF already declaring to counter protest Saturday In Rotherham, the EDL have now decided to counter protest the counter protest.

The National Front and Britain First have decided to join them.

Police leave cancelled for EDL demonstration - The Star

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:54 am

I've just been reliably Informed that confirmed numbers for the Rotherham protest tomorrow Is 7,000 plus EDL

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:59 am

Rotherham today

Now let's wait for the Inaccurate biased reporting. The BNP were there but avoided the main town centre and Instead handed out leaflets In a shopping mall on the outskirts.

Quote taken from Tommy Robinson's Twitter.

' The EDL are nothing without me '

Errrrrrrr I think you'll find you are nothing without the EDL

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FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:37 am

Quite frankly, that laid back sort of approach is probably more likely to gain support than the mouthy, violent approach we have all come to 'love'.

By the others putting across a negative image for themselves, it only serves to support the others.

Much as I loathe the BNP, even you must see the logic of this. All hard line approach does is to get people to hate everything the BNP stands for even more.

Mind you, as far as I'm concerned, they're all as bad as each other & I'm quite content to see them bring about each other's destruction.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:51 am

FourPart;1464213 wrote: Quite frankly, that laid back sort of approach is probably more likely to gain support than the mouthy, violent approach we have all come to 'love'.

By the others putting across a negative image for themselves, it only serves to support the others.

Much as I loathe the BNP, even you must see the logic of this. All hard line approach does is to get people to hate everything the BNP stands for even more.

Mind you, as far as I'm concerned, they're all as bad as each other & I'm quite content to see them bring about each other's destruction.

No they are not all as bad as each other. Unless you are In the middle of Nationalism, to outsiders, they all seem the same and people have no Idea of the hatred each Party or Org have for each other. No disrespect there.

The EDL despises the BNP and likewise. Hence the decision by the BNP to avoid Rotherham town centre today, choosing Instead to continue handing out leaflets on the outskirts. The EDL support Israel. The BNP supports Palestine.

Today It was the EDL who attacked the National Front.

Britain First decided to boycott Rotherham today entirely to avoid the EDL

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:45 pm

Whether you see it from the inside or not is neither here nor there. What really counts when it boils down to it is the support of the electorate. If they see you all APPEARING to be the same, then their attitude is going to be the same to one as it is to the other.

Note that this applies to them all - not just the BNP.

This is one of the main problems with extremist parties - they have tunnel vision towards their own agenda, without a thought for the overall good of what the majority of the country wants.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:57 pm

FourPart;1464227 wrote:

This is one of the main problems with extremist parties - they have tunnel vision towards their own agenda, without a thought for the overall good of what the majority of the country wants. So, are you now saying you're speaking on behalf of the country?

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:18 pm

We ought to start calling you Rumplestiltskin - Spinning Straw into Gold.

I actually said nothing of the sort. However I do consider myself as being one of the vast majority of the country, and the extremists as a small minority - and hopefully they'll stay that way. I speak for myself as a member of that vast majority. If I wanted to speak for them regardless of what they really wanted I'd join the BNP.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:24 pm

FourPart;1464229 wrote: We ought to start calling you Rumplestiltskin - Spinning Straw into Gold.

I actually said nothing of the sort. However I do consider myself as being one of the vast majority of the country, and the extremists as a small minority - and hopefully they'll stay that way. I speak for myself as a member of that vast majority. If I wanted to speak for them regardless of what they really wanted I'd join the BNP. You can come to my next regional meeting as my guest If you like. I'm chairing and they'll be a ' key' guest speaker there... Come along :wah:

What did I say about biased reporting?

According to South Yorkshire Police, "200 EDL supporters turned up"

Yeah right.... try 7,000 :wah::wah:

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:29 pm

Actually the Police estimate was near to 700, which was the largest of all the independent sources I could find:

BBC News - Rochdale EDL and UAF protests: 31 arrests

Bearing that in mind, with all the others in the region of 400 - 500 I think I'm more inclined to go with that sort of range - especially as tabloids are far more likely to sensationalise things by exaggerating numbers.

In my Googling, however, I did find it rather comical in another report about how Old Nick has inadvertently given one of the 'alleged' groomers grounds for an appeal against his conviction:

BBC News - Rochdale grooming: Jailed man to appeal over BNP tweet

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:07 am

FourPart;1464239 wrote: Actually the Police estimate was near to 700, which was the largest of all the independent sources I could find:

BBC News - Rochdale EDL and UAF protests: 31 arrests

Bearing that in mind, with all the others in the region of 400 - 500 I think I'm more inclined to go with that sort of range - especially as tabloids are far more likely to sensationalise things by exaggerating numbers.

In my Googling, however, I did find it rather comical in another report about how Old Nick has inadvertently given one of the 'alleged' groomers grounds for an appeal against his conviction:

BBC News - Rochdale grooming: Jailed man to appeal over BNP tweet

This EDL demo In Newcastle was reported by police to be at 200. Finally, they admitted It was 7,000

EDL march Newcastle. 29/05/2010 - YouTube

They don't just turn up you know. The EDL has divisions and Invites and coaches are booked for those divisions from all over the country. That's how they have an Idea of numbers... that's why all police leave In Rochdale was cancelled.

Regardless, frankly, I don't care If It was 50,000... we do not stand side by side with the EDL. They were formed as a British troops support street organisation, we are not.

The video's will start being loaded on to youtube from the EDL which will show the police are lying as they did with Newcastle.

And, you do realise that the link you posted about Nick Griffin and the trial Is over a year old ?:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:36 am

Oscar Namechange;1464263 wrote: And, you do realise that the link you posted about Nick Griffin and the trial Is over a year old ?:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Of course I realise it - I just found it comical. The perfect irony.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:48 am

FourPart;1464281 wrote: Of course I realise it - I just found it comical. The perfect irony.

It would be had the media got their facts right and there had been some kind of outcome. :rolleyes:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:36 am

Rotherham Abuse Scandal: Shaun Wright Resigns

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:55 am

Cobblers

Shaun Wright Resignation Statement