Presidential Prediction

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:20 pm

I heard today on BBC news that America's government are going to have to ask their citizens for 46bn dollers of help. Whoops, what are you doing about that Obama? How exactly are you going to "Change" the economic climate?:-1

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:31 pm

oscar;986268 wrote: Was he not your best economist? Answer please Hoss? We won't have to worry about McCain pushing the button if he's as forgetful as Valerie claims. he'll never remember the code to get in the pentagon. Gordon Brown is scottish, he'd just push it & to hell with everyone. Terrorists must be mad to try & blow up Glasgow airport. I took my last comment off. My joke may offend gmc.

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:12 pm

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Mini-me

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:14 pm

oscar;986729 wrote: I heard today on BBC news that America's government are going to have to ask their citizens for 46bn dollers of help. Whoops, what are you doing about that Obama? How exactly are you going to "Change" the economic climate?:-1

He's not even in power yet - it's the Republicans that are asking for the money :wah:

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:14 pm

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Experience

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:43 pm

Bryn Mawr;986791 wrote: He's not even in power yet - it's the Republicans that are asking for the money :wah: A massive problem for the economy who ever takes position in the Whitehouse. I think some of our papers are calling the financial position in America similar to that of The Wall St Crash. Or do you think it's not happening Bryn just as it's probably not happening here. Is your head really that far up your a---?

If Obama wins, nobody will care. We will be worrying about Iran nuking Isreal & Russia threatening to nuke America. Or is that never going to happen either. Giggle giggle Valerie

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:06 pm

oscar;986815 wrote: A massive problem for the economy who ever takes position in the Whitehouse. I think some of our papers are calling the financial position in America similar to that of The Wall St Crash. Or do you think it's not happening Bryn just as it's probably not happening here. Is your head really that far up your a---?

If Obama wins, nobody will care. We will be worrying about Iran nuking Isreal & Russia threatening to nuke America. Or is that never going to happen either. Giggle giggle Valerie

I do not understand what you are saying here. Previously you appeared to be blaming Obama for the crash and the problems brought about by the Republicans - why does pointing this out mean I know nothing about economics (I work in the UK banking industry and see the group chief economist's review of the world situation on a weekly basis).

Your opinions appear to have little basis in the real world - more alligned to the Sun and the News of the World.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:54 pm

My point of Obama in my posts Bryn has been to ask the question "What is Obama doing about the economy?" Not actually blaming him for it. I ask the same question every time & get no sensible reply from his supporters. In this country, we have heard all the Obama speeches about "We are the one's we have been waiting for" "Change" blah blah blah. I asked previously, what about peoples power being cut off, jobs axed etc. I ask, because all we have heard is the "Heal the world, new messiah" tripe. All i see is a weak vain man spending other peoples money living the "Michael Jackson" tinsletown lifestyle. Where are his real politics? What is this change he drones on about? I can't find it. His speeches are changed to suit & please everyone. He showed weakness at the first sign of a conflict. When Russia went into Georgia. He seems to be more inclined to be the new Martin Luther King than actually care about his country's economic collapse. When he's spent more money & America is being threatened by Russia, where will he be? As i've said before, umming & Aarring. If he has plans for the economic recovery of America & the effect that has on the u.k., why have we not heard it. You are not the only one in banking. You may have more knowledge than i bryn & i apologise if i was rude before, but you do not have carte blanch on opinion of the british public. I do not read The news of the world but i do read a broad range of papers when i get the time. From here, they are all backing McCain. Wonder why? They see through the false phrophets bulls--t the same as most do.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:57 am

oscar;986850 wrote: My point of Obama in my posts Bryn has been to ask the question "What is Obama doing about the economy?" Not actually blaming him for it. I ask the same question every time & get no sensible reply from his supporters. In this country, we have heard all the Obama speeches about "We are the one's we have been waiting for" "Change" blah blah blah. I asked previously, what about peoples power being cut off, jobs axed etc. I ask, because all we have heard is the "Heal the world, new messiah" tripe. All i see is a weak vain man spending other peoples money living the "Michael Jackson" tinsletown lifestyle. Where are his real politics? What is this change he drones on about? I can't find it. His speeches are changed to suit & please everyone. He showed weakness at the first sign of a conflict. When Russia went into Georgia. He seems to be more inclined to be the new Martin Luther King than actually care about his country's economic collapse. When he's spent more money & America is being threatened by Russia, where will he be? As i've said before, umming & Aarring. If he has plans for the economic recovery of America & the effect that has on the u.k., why have we not heard it. You are not the only one in banking. You may have more knowledge than i bryn & i apologise if i was rude before, but you do not have carte blanch on opinion of the british public. I do not read The news of the world but i do read a broad range of papers when i get the time. From here, they are all backing McCain. Wonder why? They see through the false phrophets bulls--t the same as most do.

Since Obama is not actually in power there is not a great deal he can do about the economy. On the other hand you can lay much of the present turmoil on right wing economic theory that believed if you just trusted the money men they would behave responsibly, become really rich and everybody would benefit from the crumbs dropping from their table. Economic fundamentalism for the mentally retarded. It's like the theory you can trust a politician-The basic premise is badly flawed. How you think McCain and let's do more of the same is the best option I leave you to worry about.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:49 am

Hoss;986856 wrote: No I don't think so, I think he road the coattails of the previous two administrations on the economy.In politician speak, he kept the economy going & stable??

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:56 am

gmc;986962 wrote: Since Obama is not actually in power there is not a great deal he can do about the economy. On the other hand you can lay much of the present turmoil on right wing economic theory that believed if you just trusted the money men they would behave responsibly, become really rich and everybody would benefit from the crumbs dropping from their table. Economic fundamentalism for the mentally retarded. It's like the theory you can trust a politician-The basic premise is badly flawed. How you think McCain and let's do more of the same is the best option I leave you to worry about. Basically, there are two choices, Obama or McCain & one talks Bulls--t. McCain is at least in the real world. Things will be the same for some time. if Ca"moron" got in number 10 tomorrow, he'd have the same problem but he is just another "Change" blah blah merchant. When it comes down to it, what has all this "Change" got to do with jobs being lost etc etc. It means nothing to the man in the street trying to pay his mortgage, keep his power on & put fuel in his tank. As with any new government, they will have to un-do the past before they can move on. I was feeling bad about Lehman Bank costing the u.k. 5,000 jobs. In the Daily Mail last night, i read "Tough" on the money men. No sympathy for them at all from The Mail. I still believe Obama is in it for the fame. The first black man in the Whitehouse. You only have to compare his campaign trail to McCain's. Doe's Obama really care about every race or creed or the Hollywood lifestyle?? If Obama has a dream, then what exactly is it??

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:12 am

oscar;986993 wrote: In politician speak, he kept the economy going & stable??Clinton is a deplorable human, but his performance as president, domestically, was undeniably effective. If nothing else, he was able to recognize a good thing and not muck it up. That style might be disastrous if he were president today, or it might allow the economy to right itself. Doesn't matter, because both of the main candidates want to change things come hell or high water -- both of which we have in abundance, come to think of it.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:18 am

Ian;986835 wrote: Still interesting from a psychological point of view,,,

That and the white Hossmen of the apocalypse :)My doctor once told me that i was a paranoid. He didn't actually say it, but i knew he was thinking it.:wah:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:22 am

Accountable;987007 wrote: Clinton is a deplorable human, but his performance as president, domestically, was undeniably effective. If nothing else, he was able to recognize a good thing and not muck it up. That style might be disastrous if he were president today, or it might allow the economy to right itself. Doesn't matter, because both of the main candidates want to change things come hell or high water -- both of which we have in abundance, come to think of it. He gave us a hell of a laugh here in Blighty. Poor Hilary. I can only go from the little i have read on him but he did seem to be the better economist. What about Bush?? The t.v. shows here slate him. We got alot of hell & high water. Britain is slowly flooding & we got "Golden Brown" in number 10.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:34 am

oscar;987015 wrote: He gave us a hell of a laugh here in Blighty. Poor Hilary. I can only go from the little i have read on him but he did seem to be the better economist. What about Bush?? The t.v. shows here slate him. We got alot of hell & high water. Britain is slowly flooding & we got "Golden Brown" in number 10.I think Bush would've found a way to run us into a deficit even if we had Clinton's economy.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:52 am

Typical British Labour party. Scanned today's papers & after the weeks reporting, Labour, your all a bunch of spineless back stabbing twats. Sack him or back him but you haven't got the guts have you? Another John Major moment in a typical day in our useless government. Now, i hope Golden Brown walks leaving you gutless lot to it. If Obama gets in, you all deserve each other. How about a 51st state McCain? The Not Great Britain.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:58 am

oscar;986997 wrote: Basically, there are two choices, Obama or McCain & one talks Bulls--t. McCain is at least in the real world. Things will be the same for some time. if Ca"moron" got in number 10 tomorrow, he'd have the same problem but he is just another "Change" blah blah merchant. When it comes down to it, what has all this "Change" got to do with jobs being lost etc etc. It means nothing to the man in the street trying to pay his mortgage, keep his power on & put fuel in his tank. As with any new government, they will have to un-do the past before they can move on. I was feeling bad about Lehman Bank costing the u.k. 5,000 jobs. In the Daily Mail last night, i read "Tough" on the money men. No sympathy for them at all from The Mail. I still believe Obama is in it for the fame. The first black man in the Whitehouse. You only have to compare his campaign trail to McCain's. Doe's Obama really care about every race or creed or the Hollywood lifestyle?? If Obama has a dream, then what exactly is it??

Bush and McCain are like the leaders of a pack of lemmings. One (bush) has already taken everybody off the cliff now everybody is looking at McCain saying he is a strong leader and has much experience in jumping off cliffs so must know what he is doing- let's follow him. That new guy wants to change direction and he's a funny colour, let's ignore him.

At this point only a complete half wit would still think the economic and foreign policy of the Bush administration has been an unqualified success. Not that I'm suggesting you're a complete half wit of course, you are after all a daily mail reader.

posted by oscar

Typical British Labour party. Scanned today's papers & after the weeks reporting, Labour, your all a bunch of spineless back stabbing twats. Sack him or back him but you haven't got the guts have you? Another John Major moment in a typical day in our useless government. Now, i hope Golden Brown walks leaving you gutless lot to it. If Obama gets in, you all deserve each other. How about a 51st state McCain? The Not Great Britain.

And you think tory boy cameron will be any better? Thatcher was the one that de-regulated the financial institutions in this country also with the demented idea that if you make the rich richer they spend more and we all benefit. She's also the one that is on record that we can survive as a service economy and the destruction of our industrial base didn't matter. So instead of investing the money from north sea il she gave tax breaks to people who didn't need them and gave away the rest to all those on the dole. Course back then the daily mail was a tory rag.

A plague on all their houses.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:43 am

gmc;987282 wrote: Bush and McCain are like the leaders of a pack of lemmings. One (bush) has already taken everybody off the cliff now everybody is looking at McCain saying he is a strong leader and has much experience in jumping off cliffs so must know what he is doing- let's follow him. That new guy wants to change direction and he's a funny colour, let's ignore him.

At this point only a complete half wit would still think the economic and foreign policy of the Bush administration has been an unqualified success. Not that I'm suggesting you're a complete half wit of course, you are after all a daily mail reader.

posted by oscar

And you think tory boy cameron will be any better? Thatcher was the one that de-regulated the financial institutions in this country also with the demented idea that if you make the rich richer they spend more and we all benefit. She's also the one that is on record that we can survive as a service economy and the destruction of our industrial base didn't matter. So instead of investing the money from north sea il she gave tax breaks to people who didn't need them and gave away the rest to all those on the dole. Course back then the daily mail was a tory rag.

A plague on all their houses. I did spell Camoron Ca"moron" in my post gmc. If you look! That sums up what i think of him as well. I agree with what you say. Your spot on about Thatcher but in my half wit opinion (and your probably right there) she was strong & determined. Golden Brown, Harriot Harman, Jack Straw, Ca"Moron", etc, Obama & Biden-- They are all as bad as each other. I am just hoping that somewhere in McCains military mind & years of experience, there may be hope. I don't trust Biden if he has to resort to stealing speeches from Kinnock. I was a fully paid up member of the labour party for yrs. I subscribed money that i could ill afford because i believed in Blair, so you are right, i am a half wit. I have not joined another party as yet because i am at a loss with the lot of them frankly. As i am a half wit, help me out here gmc?? I was contacted by the orange party---Your views please? p.s. gmc, i'm a funny colour as well!!

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:44 am

There's a new species of ant been found in the Brazilian rain forest. It's in the Daily Mail readers. Apparently, it's blind, very pale & has a large lower jaw. Blunkett. It's along with the pic of the father who was beaten to a pulp by two 16 yr olds. The one who stamped on his head while he lay unconsious on the pavement & broke his eye sockets, nose, jaw etc, got a whole 4 yrs in prison. Another day in broken Britain. That's why some of us look to America. That piece of garbage would have done 25 at least in Arizona etc. Our police & law courts are a joke. Thugs paradise. What did this man do to deserve that? He asked them to stop urinating on a car.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:37 am

oscar;987348 wrote: I did spell Camoron Ca"moron" in my post gmc. If you look! That sums up what i think of him as well. I agree with what you say. Your spot on about Thatcher but in my half wit opinion (and your probably right there) she was strong & determined. Golden Brown, Harriot Harman, Jack Straw, Ca"Moron", etc, Obama & Biden-- They are all as bad as each other. I am just hoping that somewhere in McCains military mind & years of experience, there may be hope. I don't trust Biden if he has to resort to stealing speeches from Kinnock. I was a fully paid up member of the labour party for yrs. I subscribed money that i could ill afford because i believed in Blair, so you are right, i am a half wit. I have not joined another party as yet because i am at a loss with the lot of them frankly. As i am a half wit, help me out here gmc?? I was contacted by the orange party---Your views please? p.s. gmc, i'm a funny colour as well!!

Well I wouldn't join the orange party-bunch of bigoted thugs (or is that the orange lodge

) Hows your flute playing anyway?

No this is the only sensible option.

http://www.omrlp.com/

If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving isn't for you " R.U.Seerius:yh_rotfl

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:58 am

gmc;987635 wrote: Well I wouldn't join the orange party-bunch of bigoted thugs (or is that the orange lodge

) Hows your flute playing anyway?

No this is the only sensible option.

http://www.omrlp.com/

R.U.Seerius:yh_rotfl Absolutely Brilliant!! That has made my day. My one day off that is. I was only wondering what had happened to them the other day after Lord Sutch topped himself. I did wonder if the orange party was those shaven headed guys wearing orange robes, tinkling bells but it looks like i must google tonight before i answer their e mails. When i broke my wrist, i did ask the doc if i could play the flute now. He said, certainly. Good, cos i never could before.:wah:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:18 am

R.U. Serious. That's the answer right there. John McEnroe for president. Chalk Dust anyone??:guitarist:guitarist:guitarist

southern yankee · Post by **southern yankee** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:20 am

oscar;985409 wrote: She would put in a gun in every womans hand though. if i wanted a gun toteing leader. i would vote for Calamity Jane:wah:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:35 am

southern yankee;987793 wrote: if i wanted a gun toteing leader. i would vote for Calamity Jane:wah:It looks like Palin is no stranger to a pistol:wah:

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:11 pm

oscar;987015 wrote: He gave us a hell of a laugh here in Blighty. Poor Hilary. I can only go from the little i have read on him but he did seem to be the better economist. What about Bush?? The t.v. shows here slate him. We got alot of hell & high water. Britain is slowly flooding & we got "Golden Brown" in number 10.

We were at a 4 Trillion dollar debt when Clinton was elected only for him to completely turn the economy around and give us a $400 Billion surplus...

after having had Bush in Office our debt stands at roughly 10 Trillion dollar in debt and a mere $50 Billion surplus if I'm not mistaken...

Remind me again how it is McCain is exactly leading the polls again please?...Anyone?...

Bridget · Post by **Bridget** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:05 pm

Bush had the gaul to ask american citizens to donate money to the people of Texas who were devastated by the hurricane Ike. If he had not given the Russian country Georgia 1 billion dollars to rebuild their country, we would of had money for those people. i'm afraid I lost it when I read what he had did.:-5

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:46 am

Can you explain this before I report it for being WAY over the top offensive?

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:51 am

IAN

What the HELL are you saying?

Don't hide behind cardboard dude

Patsy

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:59 am

Ian;988544 wrote: Palin is a big mistake..
She's a nominee for Vice President, and not mentioned by name in the Bible.

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:10 am

Ian

maybe the running mates should be

OBAMA & PALIN

AND forget the 2 old shits

Patsy

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:21 am

Hey everyone, i just got a private e mail from Superpowerchina. He's coming back. Hurrah

SuperPowerChina · Post by **SuperPowerChina** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:24 am

Hello guys!

My friend , Oscar , introduced me to come to this thread and say something.

ok let me say something then!

I love Beijing Duck!:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:46 am

SuperPowerChina;988988 wrote: Hello guys!

My friend , Oscar , introduced me to come to this thread and say something.

ok let me say something then!

I love Beijing Duck!: I prefer your ribs mate. Take time out to read all the posts on this thread. It's mostly America & British debating the near Presidential election of McCain & Obama. Your viewes would be welcomed by us all SPC. Nice to have you back, OSCAR:-6:-6:-6

SuperPowerChina · Post by **SuperPowerChina** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:33 pm

oscar;989049 wrote: I prefer your ribs mate. Take time out to read all the posts on this thread. It's mostly America & British debating the near Presidential election of McCain & Obama. Your viewes would be welcomed by us all SPC. Nice to have you back, OSCAR:-6:-6:-6

In my opinion, I prefer Obama.Because he can represent the black men in the US so that the powerful guys in the US are not only white men ...just my opinion.:-6

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:50 pm

SuperPowerChina;989172 wrote: In my opinion, I prefer Obama.Because he can represent the black men in the US so that the powerful guys in the US are not only white men ...just my opinion.:-6 Good slant on that SPC, but i'm afaraid, my vote would be McCain, He has a strong military background with a veitnam pow record to his name, & i just feel that his age also will show experience that may give the U.S. some hope. Got to go to bed now, i have just been diagnosed with pluresy. I'm a very unwell Oscar this week. Catch up tomorrow. Thanks for coming back:-6:-6:-6

SuperPowerChina · Post by **SuperPowerChina** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:10 pm

oscar;989190 wrote: Good slant on that SPC, but i'm afaraid, my vote would be McCain, He has a strong military background with a veitnam pow record to his name, & i just feel that his age also will show experience that may give the U.S. some hope. Got to go to bed now, i have just been diagnosed with pluresy. I'm a very unwell Oscar this week. Catch up tomorrow. Thanks for coming back:-6:-6:-6

I agree that women are more merciful, if a lady becomes the president, the wars might end.

Imagine that if all countries leaders are female, there woundn't have wars, is that right?>..:-3

Post by **spot** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:47 am

SuperPowerChina;989443 wrote: I agree that women are more merciful, if a lady becomes the president, the wars might end.

Imagine that if all countries leaders are female, there woundn't have wars, is that right?>..:-3

When the early Jesuit fathers preached to Hurons and Choctaws,

They prayed to be delivered from the vengeance of the squaws -

'Twas the women, not the warriors, turned those stark enthusiasts pale -

For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.

http://www.online-literature.com/kipling/916/

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:28 am

spot;989469 wrote: When the early Jesuit fathers preached to Hurons and Choctaws,

They prayed to be delivered from the vengeance of the squaws -

'Twas the women, not the warriors, turned those stark enthusiasts pale -

For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.

http://www.online-literature.com/kipling/916/ Absoluetly Spot. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:45 am

I have said this on another thread. When Thatcher came to power, my father said "Anything that bleeds for a week & still lives, must be viewed with suspicion". :wah:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:52 am

SuperPowerChina;989443 wrote: I agree that women are more merciful, if a lady becomes the president, the wars might end.

Imagine that if all countries leaders are female, there woundn't have wars, is that right?>..:-3 They would just get assassinated SPC, because you'd always have a man who thought he could do better.

TheNewDG · Post by **TheNewDG** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:15 am

oscar;989587 wrote: I have said this on another thread. When Thatcher came to power, my father said "Anything that bleeds for a week & still lives, must be viewed with suspicion". :wah:

That's terrible!!!:wah: