Presidential Prediction

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:42 am

Ian;984225 wrote: If America vote for McCain then America will rot in hell,

and the rest of the world will become more distant from you and your foreign policies will destroy your children..

If Americans vote for McCain then you will be a nation of idiots who will reap what they sow, your sovereignty is gone only maritime law matters in your country, you are citizens of a corporate state and your country is becoming a serious problem for the rest of the world........ Derrrr, don't think so:wah::wah::wah:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:45 am

Accountable;984833 wrote: That's why it's a huge blunder to trust gov't to fix things. Neighbors help neighbors. Washington's a thousand miles away and paralyzed by bureaucracy. Sounds familiar

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:45 am

I'm sick of these stupid presidential ads. Arrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggghhhhhhhh!:mad:

southern yankee · Post by **southern yankee** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:50 am

Palin as vice Prez. my worry she will bring in her personal, religious beliefs into power. setting back women's rights. she will take away a woman's right to choose.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:57 am

southern yankee;985348 wrote: Palin as vice Prez. my worry she will bring in her personal, religious beliefs into power. setting back women's rights. she will take away a woman's right to choose.

I agree SY. Biden said "it would be a step back for women if she get's elected". totally agree.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:09 am

For all those Americans who don't understand why it is so important to us Brits who sits in the Whitehouse: "The Sun" newspaper today. Quote" Millions of Brits faced a grim outlook last night after America's fourth biggest Investment bank Lehman Brothers went bust. The shockwaves sent share prices plummeting in London & experts warned that pension funds & people's ability to get loans & mortgages will be hit. There were fears of more crippling economic damage to come as Manchester Untited Shirt sponsers, the insurence giant, AIG, looked in danger of collapsing. Last night Lehman's 5,000 british workers were facing the sack-- with little prospect of getting redundancy money or pay this friday.

The facts. £342bn-- Lehman's total debts at the end of may.

£24bn-- injected by European Central bank yesterday.

£5bn-- bailout by Bank of England yesterday.

What exactly is it you are going to "Change" Obama, because we haven't heard it yet??

Gordon Brown can ---- our country up all by himself thankyou very much. He doesn't need your help.

Bridget · Post by **Bridget** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:09 am

I am hoping Obama wins even if his resume is a little weak. He has Joe Biden to help. Joe gave a terrific speech on 9/15/08. I truly think McClain is using Sarah Palin to help him win the election and afterwards will drop her like a hot potato. He is a quiet reserved sort of person and his wife is of no help in that area. So along comes Palin, a pit bull in lipstick(her words) speaking out, waving her arms, saying anything to get attention. I realize this is not acceptible but I read in Time that she was two months pregnant when she got married. I have not seen anything about her personal background before she became a mayor. A soccer mom does not help much in the White House. She could be very helpful with the Easter egg roll. I thought she was catholic from references to her beliefs. Found out she was pentecost before she joined the church she is now in, which is a part of the pentecost religion. Long hair and only dresses on women is one of their beliefs. Surprized at the lipstick and earrings. Oh well, enough said, enough to get me in hot water.

:-5

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:13 am

Bridget;985400 wrote: I am hoping Obama wins even if his resume is a little weak. He has Joe Biden to help. Joe gave a terrific speech on 9/15/08. I truly think McClain is using Sarah Palin to help him win the election and afterwards will drop her like a hot potato. He is a quiet reserved sort of person and his wife is of no help in that area. So along comes Palin, a pit bull in lipstick(her words) speaking out, waving her arms, saying anything to get attention. I realize this is not acceptible but I read in Time that she was two months pregnant when she got married. I have not seen anything about her personal background before she became a mayor. A soccer mom does not help much in the White House. She could be very helpful with the Easter egg roll. I thought she was catholic from references to her beliefs. Found out she was pentecost before she joined the church she is now in, which is a part of the pentecost religion. Long hair and only dresses on women is one of their beliefs. Surprized at the lipstick and earrings. Oh well, enough said, enough to get me in hot water.

:-5

Thank you Bridget for just summing up what is so "real" about Palin. Total fake in my book and she ain't getting my vote. Can't wait to see her against Biden in the VP debate. I'd like to see that glib smile of hers wiped off her face.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:14 am

qsducks;985375 wrote: I agree SY. Biden said "it would be a step back for women if she get's elected". totally agree.
She would put in a gun in every womans hand though.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:16 am

Bridget, are you sure it was Biden's own speech? He is well known here for using other people's including Neil Kinnock, our failed Labour politician?

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:17 am

oscar;985409 wrote: She would put in a gun in every womans hand though.

I don't need a gun, don't want one. If he dies in office she will be prez. Scary. Hillary I think is much smarter than big mouth Palin.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:22 am

qsducks;985416 wrote: I don't need a gun, don't want one. If he dies in office she will be prez. Scary. Hillary I think is much smarter than big mouth Palin. True, but why did Obama not grab his chance with Clinton as running mate? She has massive support & respect in this country. I remember when Margaret Thatcher first ran for Downing Street. The daughter of a shop keeper, oh how they laughed at her!!

TheNewDG · Post by **TheNewDG** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:22 am

Im coming in late with this I know, but I have to say...

I see the same posters on here going on and on worrying that Palin is setting women back (because of being pro-life and possibly reversing Roe V Wade) and then bitch and moan because she went back to work 3 days after the birth of her son...her husband was a stay at home dad even before the baby came!!!!!!

Hypocrisy in black and white...

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:27 am

oscar;985425 wrote: True, but why did Obama not grab his chance with Clinton as running mate? She has massive support & respect in this country.

I voted for Hillary, but I'm fine with the fact that she is not VP although she will still be in the Senate and can make a huge difference. And if Obama/Biden lose, Biden will also still be in the Senate. 2 more Dems in office. Maybe, we will see a difference then and knock McCain off his arse.

Bridget · Post by **Bridget** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:31 am

All Obama has to do is simply suggest that Hillary would be his Secretary of State if he wins and Sarah would be history. I really think Hillary would make a very good Secretary of State. When she wants to she can be very charming, and is very smart. I think Hillary still has a great following of the women that have gone over to Sarah. :sneaky:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:00 am

Bridget;985454 wrote: All Obama has to do is simply suggest that Hillary would be his Secretary of State if he wins and Sarah would be history. I really think Hillary would make a very good Secretary of State. When she wants to she can be very charming, and is very smart. I think Hillary still has a great following of the women that have gone over to Sarah. :sneaky: Would he swallow his pride & do that??? Alot of Obama's support was lost in this country when he dumped Clinton. If he'd chosen her, i would have considered supporting him. We do know the difference hear between Palin & Clinton. It's about the politics not the ethics.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:05 am

Bridget;985454 wrote: All Obama has to do is simply suggest that Hillary would be his Secretary of State if he wins and Sarah would be history. I really think Hillary would make a very good Secretary of State. When she wants to she can be very charming, and is very smart. I think Hillary still has a great following of the women that have gone over to Sarah. :sneaky:

That would be a brilliant move on Obama's part. Perhaps, that's what he has in mind if elected. Put Hillary in a high level White House seat.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:17 am

qsducks;985487 wrote: That would be a brilliant move on Obama's part. Perhaps, that's what he has in mind if elected. Put Hillary in a high level White House seat. I bet he won't. 8 Years from now Clinton will be running for the Whitehouse, Obama will go down as America's biggest failure, if he wins. Sorry:-3

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:21 am

Is it just me, but i find the choice of running mate slightly more than the politics. Did Obama pick experience in Biden as he is so young & McCain pick Palin because he is so old? I hate to say this but their is a possibility of some nutter picking off Obama due to his campaign trail resembling MLK & McCain must surely know that he's likely to die in office. Sorry folks, just being real here. I find it unsettling that so many are looking to the running mates as running the country instead of the candidate. A possible preminition??

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:22 am

oscar;985503 wrote: I bet he won't. 8 Years from now Clinton will be running for the Whitehouse, Obama will go down as America's biggest failure, if he wins. Sorry:-3

Hillary is supporting Obama and makes speeches for him. I call it payback.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:24 am

TheNewDG;985429 wrote: Im coming in late with this I know, but I have to say...

I see the same posters on here going on and on worrying that Palin is setting women back (because of being pro-life and possibly reversing Roe V Wade) and then bitch and moan because she went back to work 3 days after the birth of her son...her husband was a stay at home dad even before the baby came!!!!!!

Hypocrisy in black and white... Although i support McCain, i know how you feel. We've got one like that here, she's called Harriot Harmen & she's helped ruin this country with her ludicrous benifit system for teenage & working mothers.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:26 am

qsducks;985514 wrote: Hillary is supporting Obama and makes speeches for him. I call it payback. In public, yes, she has to, or look a sour faced old bitch. I'd love to be a fly on the wall at Clinton supper time

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:27 am

oscar;985525 wrote: In public, yes, she has to or look a sour faced old bitch.

Nah, I think he has a spot for her in the White House.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:31 am

qsducks;985528 wrote: Nah, I think he has a spot for her in the White House. I've got 100 of your U.S dollars that says he won't:p

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:32 am

qsducks;985528 wrote: Nah, I think he has a spot for her in the White House. The pool guy or the cleaner???

TheNewDG · Post by **TheNewDG** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:40 am

oscar;985521 wrote: Although i support McCain, i know how you feel. We've got one like that here, she's called Harriot Harmen & she's helped ruin this country with her ludicrous benifit system for teenage & working mothers.

I just had to call it out. It bugs me. And im so tired of the "he is going to die in office" bs. His mother is 90 years old! My grandmother was still DRIVING at 90.

I think Obama is great, I read one of his memoirs but Im not voting for him. Im not going to sling mud at him or Biden either. IM just not voting for them.

Bridget · Post by **Bridget** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:43 am

I have a question. Doesn't Nancy Plelosa sit as head of the senate? If Sarah should become veep would she as such be sitting with Nancy? Now if that were to happen, when they weren't at each others throat: Nancy where did you get those adorable shoes? With three girls to buy shoes for I just neeeever get to get myself anything. Where is a good dry cleaner? Amen:-1

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:43 am

TheNewDG;985563 wrote: I just had to call it out. It bugs me. And im so tired of the "he is going to die in office" bs. His mother is 90 years old! My grandmother was still DRIVING at 90.

I think Obama is great, I read one of his memoirs but Im not voting for him. Im not going to sling mud at him or Biden either. IM just not voting for them.

Than vote for him and if you don't vote it might as well be a vote for McLame

TheNewDG · Post by **TheNewDG** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:45 am

qsducks;985568 wrote: Than vote for him and if you don't vote it might as well be a vote for McLame

Its Obama, Palin, Biden, and McCain. Arranging their names to make some nutty insult is immature...and you lose your credibility when you go that route.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:47 am

oscar;985539 wrote: I've got 100 of your U.S dollars that says he won't:p

In that case, no moola for you in the casino:wah:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:21 pm

qsducks;985575 wrote: In that case, no moola for you in the casino:wah: No casino's here, our government blocked the proposals for them. I used to be a gambling addict, i joined gamblers anonymous. It's great, i still gamble but in another name.:wah:

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:35 pm

TheNewDG;985429 wrote: Im coming in late with this I know, but I have to say...

I see the same posters on here going on and on worrying that Palin is setting women back (because of being pro-life and possibly reversing Roe V Wade) and then bitch and moan because she went back to work 3 days after the birth of her son...her husband was a stay at home dad even before the baby came!!!!!!

Hypocrisy in black and white...

Going back to work 3 days after the birth of her SPECIAL NEEDS son

doesn't bother me as much as having gone to Texas at 8 months

along and then flying back to Alaska after her water broke. Irresponsible,

at best.

As to her husband being a stay at home dad, not sure if that's true.

Certainly working in the oil fields, depending on how far away they

are, wouldn't let him be home much. And a commercial fisherman can

be out on the high seas for weeks at a time.

By the way, McCain's mom may be 90 but his dad was 70 when he died

and his grandfather was 61. And McCain suffered an awful lot of

trauma as a POW that can show up years later.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:39 pm

oscar;985621 wrote: No casino's here, our government blocked the proposals for them. I used to be a gambling addict, i joined gamblers anonymous. It's great, i still gamble but in another name.:wah:

Strange, there's at least three in Leicester - the Gala is enormous.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:48 pm

Bryn Mawr;985630 wrote: Strange, there's at least three in Leicester - the Gala is enormous.I know Bryn, we have SGT Yorks in Brighton as well. It was a joke, or an attempt at one. True about Blackpool though. Shame.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:49 pm

valerie;985629 wrote: Going back to work 3 days after the birth of her SPECIAL NEEDS son

doesn't bother me as much as having gone to Texas at 8 months

along and then flying back to Alaska after her water broke. Irresponsible,

at best.

As to her husband being a stay at home dad, not sure if that's true.

Certainly working in the oil fields, depending on how far away they

are, wouldn't let him be home much. And a commercial fisherman can

be out on the high seas for weeks at a time.

By the way, McCain's mom may be 90 but his dad was 70 when he died

and his grandfather was 61. And McCain suffered an awful lot of

trauma as a POW that can show up years later.
They said the same about Reagan.

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:51 pm

oscar;985646 wrote: They said the same about Reagan.

Yes and he did seem to show early signs of his eventual Alzheimer's.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:54 pm

valerie;985650 wrote: Yes and he did seem to show early signs of his eventual Alzheimer's.Nobody noticed here & Thatcher is a home with dementia. Do we condemn future leaders because of their age & possible future mental health? I'd rather have a senile McCain or Reagan than Obama "heal the world" tripe.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:59 pm

Let us all be brutally honest. Don't we just know that some nutter is going to try to pick Obama off before McCain loses his marbles. Sorry but it's a high risk & we all know it.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:34 pm

Oh god, it's gone horribly quiet out there. Was it something i said?

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:48 pm

oscar;985655 wrote: Nobody noticed here & Thatcher is a home with dementia. Do we condemn future leaders because of their age & possible future mental health? I'd rather have a senile McCain or Reagan than Obama "heal the world" tripe.

Nobody noticed? Who are you kidding.

Funny how things change but remain the same.

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:51 pm

oscar;985655 wrote: Nobody noticed here & Thatcher is a home with dementia. Do we condemn future leaders because of their age & possible future mental health? I'd rather have a senile McCain or Reagan than Obama "heal the world" tripe.

Well it was noticed here alright. McCain's mental health isn't just in

the future. Take a look at that link that was posted somewhere on here

a while back. He's very forgetful. I don't want someone like that with

their hand on the button, I really don't.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:52 pm

gmc;985700 wrote: Nobody noticed? Who are you kidding.

Funny how things change but remain the same.

We did notice really gmc, i was joking. Thatcher had to be barking. What was the bloody Falklands all about otherwise? Sheep strategy purposes?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:53 pm

valerie;985702 wrote: Well it was noticed here alright. McCain's mental health isn't just in

the future. Take a look at that link that was posted somewhere on here

a while back. He's very forgetful. I don't want someone like that with

their hand on the button, I really don't.What button?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:59 pm

Just looked at your link gmc. :wah:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:09 pm

valerie;985702 wrote: Well it was noticed here alright. McCain's mental health isn't just in

the future. Take a look at that link that was posted somewhere on here

a while back. He's very forgetful. I don't want someone like that with

their hand on the button, I really don't. Does that mean to say that your expecting to go to war Valerie?? I still say rather a senile McCain or Reagan than some-one who thinks he's Michael Jackson, the new messiah. He will probably drown before he gets to the Whitehouse. The usual outcome for some-one who thinks he can walk on water. Now that is dangerous.

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:42 pm

oscar;985716 wrote: Does that mean to say that your expecting to go to war Valerie?? I still say rather a senile McCain or Reagan than some-one who thinks he's Michael Jackson, the new messiah. He will probably drown before he gets to the Whitehouse. The usual outcome for some-one who thinks he can walk on water. Now that is dangerous.

Now you're just really reaching. Wasn't it you who called for people to

not use names like "McSame"? Well I decided you were right and I'm

not going to do it any more. Wouldn't it be nice if you agreed to not

"slam" in return?

I think it would.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:34 pm

southern yankee;985348 wrote: Palin as vice Prez. my worry she will bring in her personal, religious beliefs into power. setting back women's rights. she will take away a woman's right to choose.
We're not electing a queen. VP can't change anything, and if Roe v Wade was safe against Bush, it's safe against McCain.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:36 pm

Bridget;985400 wrote: I am hoping Obama wins even if his resume is a little weak. He has Joe Biden to help. Joe gave a terrific speech on 9/15/08. I truly think McClain is using Sarah Palin to help him win the election and afterwards will drop her like a hot potato. He is a quiet reserved sort of person and his wife is of no help in that area. So along comes Palin, a pit bull in lipstick(her words) speaking out, waving her arms, saying anything to get attention. I realize this is not acceptible but I read in Time that she was two months pregnant when she got married. I have not seen anything about her personal background before she became a mayor. A soccer mom does not help much in the White House. She could be very helpful with the Easter egg roll. I thought she was catholic from references to her beliefs. Found out she was pentecost before she joined the church she is now in, which is a part of the pentecost religion. Long hair and only dresses on women is one of their beliefs. Surprized at the lipstick and earrings. Oh well, enough said, enough to get me in hot water.

:-5
Another who's all for religious discrimination. So much for Land of the Free, eh?

BTW, Bridget, good to see you again! :-6

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:38 pm

valerie;985629 wrote: Going back to work 3 days after the birth of her SPECIAL NEEDS son

doesn't bother me as much as having gone to Texas at 8 months

along and then flying back to Alaska after her water broke. Irresponsible,

at best.

As to her husband being a stay at home dad, not sure if that's true.

Certainly working in the oil fields, depending on how far away they

are, wouldn't let him be home much. And a commercial fisherman can

be out on the high seas for weeks at a time.

By the way, McCain's mom may be 90 but his dad was 70 when he died

and his grandfather was 61. And McCain suffered an awful lot of

trauma as a POW that can show up years later.

And as far as we know, McCain didn't get any therapy after that ordeal.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:38 pm

Bridget;985567 wrote: I have a question. Doesn't Nancy Plelosa sit as head of the senate? If Sarah should become veep would she as such be sitting with Nancy? Now if that were to happen, when they weren't at each others throat: Nancy where did you get those adorable shoes? With three girls to buy shoes for I just neeeever get to get myself anything. Where is a good dry cleaner? Amen:-1
Nancy Pelosi is Speaker of the House. She's a representative for CA. Harry Reid of NV is Majority Leader for the Senate.