The United States of the Americas

QUINNSCOMMENTARY · Post by **QUINNSCOMMENTARY** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:28 pm

I was in a supermarket the other day looking to buy¦well it doesn’t really matter. In any case, I picked up a bottle of stuff and started to read the directions.

Am I that stupid, that I can no longer read directions on a container? Not exactly, I was reading the side of the bottle in some foreign language, Spanish no doubt. So, one has to ask (at least this one does), why do manufacturers feel the need to put directions on a bottle of stuff sold in the United States of America in two languages? :rolleyes:

Exactly where are we headed? I am not talking about a bottle or package here or there, but take a close look and you will see a growing number of products in both Spanish and English. Since when did we decide that the US was going to be a dual language country? Apparently, it has been decided for us.

If you think the directions are a problem, you had better hope they do not put the Spanish label to the front of the shelf or you will not even be able to find what you are looking for, unless of course you speak Spanish.

Somehow I doubt that when my ancestors came to the US from Ireland, Sweden and Germany (and England but I guess that doesn’t count), they went to the local market and found a can of peas with a label in Gaelic or German. One of my great, great grandfathers was so nuts he came to the US in 1862 and promptly joined the Union army, imagine coming to your new country and immediately joining the army, what a concept. Of course, the language thing did not mean much to him, he was illiterate. :-2

Sorry, but you will never convince me that if you adopt a new country that you should not speak the language of that country as your primary language. Every group that has come to America has done it; even Native Americans speak English as their primary language. So why are the people from Guatemala, Mexico, or Costa Rica any different? Perhaps the key is that people who do not choose to learn and speak English are not adopting America as their new country. I hope not because that is a very dangerous direction for America. America will decline rapidly if indeed it becomes the United States of the Americas.

The first thing people who come to the US and want to live here should learn is what E Pluribus Unum means.

along-for-the-ride · Post by **along-for-the-ride** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:43 pm

They, ofcourse ,do this to get the money from our Hispanic residents. Why else?

QUINNSCOMMENTARY · Post by **QUINNSCOMMENTARY** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:49 pm

along-for-the-ride;927551 wrote: They, ofcourse ,do this to get the money from our Hispanic residents. Why else?

Not really the point. Anytime we lower our criteria to the lowest common denominator, we are in trouble. (and no, I am not putting down the Spanish language or the Spanish speaking folks).

mikeinie · Post by **mikeinie** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:50 pm

I guess the basic idea is that as much as you are historically an English speaking country and your roots are based in the English language (although I guess it would have been different if the French won the war), the main fact is that your country is based on a democracy, and as you know a democracy bases itself of vote of the population. As minority groups grow and get more political power, they, because of democracy, get more representation.

Southern USA has a very large Latin American population, and as they continue to grow, their culture and language will continue to grow in political support and it may not be too long before USA is an official bilingual country. Start practicing your Spanish.

QUINNSCOMMENTARY · Post by **QUINNSCOMMENTARY** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:00 pm

mikeinie;927556 wrote: I guess the basic idea is that as much as you are historically an English speaking country and your roots are based in the English language (although I guess it would have been different if the French won the war), the main fact is that your country is based on a democracy, and as you know a democracy bases itself of vote of the population. As minority groups grow and get more political power, they, because of democracy, get more representation.

Southern USA has a very large Latin American population, and as they continue to grow, their culture and language will continue to grow in political support and it may not be too long before USA is an official bilingual country. Start practicing your Spanish.

You got that right, it is all about politics. the real issue is not the language as the commitment to their new country that worries me.

I felt very at home in Ireland even though the last relative to live there left in the 1850s. The trouble is you guys still have not learned how to drive on the right side of the road (or how to make a grilled cheese sandwich).

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:08 pm

I think we should have a competition to guess what Quinn was buying. :wah:

southern yankee · Post by **southern yankee** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:15 pm

what ever country the product is being sold in that should be the langauge on the package. SAD

:mad::mad:

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:28 pm

We decided to become a dual language country when it became apparent to all marketers of products and services that Hispanics represent a huge purchasing base for those goods and services, more so than any other foreign language speaking people living in the U.S. If the Hispanics were Mongolian in stead, labels would be in Mongolian without a doubt.

southern yankee · Post by **southern yankee** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:40 pm

when my father's parents came from Europe. they had to learn English. what's so different now??:-5

QUINNSCOMMENTARY · Post by **QUINNSCOMMENTARY** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:40 pm

abbey;927575 wrote: I think we should have a competition to guess what Quinn was buying. :wah:

I'll solve the mystery, it was only bathroom tile cleaner, but I didn't actually buy it because I couldn't read the directions.

QUINNSCOMMENTARY · Post by **QUINNSCOMMENTARY** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:42 pm

Lon;927597 wrote: We decided to become a dual language country when it became apparent to all marketers of products and services that Hispanics represent a huge purchasing base for those goods and services, more so than any other foreign language speaking people living in the U.S. If the Hispanics were Mongolian in stead, labels would be in Mongolian without a doubt.

No doubt true, but the real issue is why is that necessary, why aren't the new Spanish immigrants learning English so that is not necessary?

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:43 pm

QUINNSCOMMENTARY;927618 wrote: I'll solve the mystery, it was only bathroom tile cleaner, but I didn't actually buy it because I couldn't read the directions.

PMSL :wah:

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:51 pm

southern yankee;927585 wrote: what ever country the product is being sold in that should be the langauge on the package. SAD

:mad::mad:

You wouldn't say that if you owned the company or were in charge of marketing.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:06 pm

Lon;927624 wrote: You wouldn't say that if you owned the company or were in charge of marketing.

Being in Europe, it is common to have half a dozen languages on the packaging - and as for the guarantee and instructions, there's flags and country codes everywhere.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:34 pm

Bryn Mawr;927634 wrote: Being in Europe, it is common to have half a dozen languages on the packaging - and as for the guarantee and instructions, there's flags and country codes everywhere.
Do you have to press 1 for English if you call customer service?

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:36 pm

QUINNSCOMMENTARY;927620 wrote: No doubt true, but the real issue is why is that necessary, why aren't the new Spanish immigrants learning English so that is not necessary?

Because we're soft on them. Instead of expecting them to do what our people did, we instead coddle them and print stuff out in their language to make things more user friendly.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:00 pm

QUINNSCOMMENTARY;927620 wrote: No doubt true, but the real issue is why is that necessary, why aren't the new Spanish immigrants learning English so that is not necessary?

Time---------English is not learned overnight and marketers are interested in $$$$, not in Social Engineering. But Quinn, I agree, it irritates the hell out of me here in California. The major hospitals in Sacramento (State Capitol) have signs at the Admissions Desk that 22 (yes that's 22) languages are available to be spoken. How about that?

southern yankee · Post by **southern yankee** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:24 pm

RedGlitter;927692 wrote: Because we're soft on them. Instead of expecting them to do what our people did, we instead coddle them and print stuff out in their language to make things more user friendly. AGREE!! AGREE!!:mad:

southern yankee · Post by **southern yankee** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:27 pm

Lon;927701 wrote: Time---------English is not learned overnight and marketers are interested in $$$$, not in Social Engineering. But Quinn, I agree, it irritates the hell out of me here in California. The major hospitals in Sacramento (State Capitol) have signs at the Admissions Desk that 22 (yes that's 22) languages are available to be spoken. How about that? my sister in-law is from centeral America. she went night school to learn English. what's the problem today??:mad:

scholle-kid · Post by **scholle-kid** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:51 pm

This is a topic that I really have so many questions about.

Of course the soon to be out and the soon to be in (which ever one) politicians won't give any real answers ,

I wonder why if 'the powers that be' wanted to 'cater' to a dual language country, why not EnglishNative American on the 'bathroom cleaners' and all other products sold in America ?

Has anyone taken a look at Mexico's Immigration / citenship laws and policies ? I'm going yo find that link .

It actually says that any person wanting to immigrate to Mexico and become a citizen will have to learn to speak Mexican and no way will they be signs in any

language but Mexican..

To give what can be the only lodgical answer to "why don't the immigrants learn to speak English"? why should they be inconvenienced to learn English? There is both languages on public bathroom doors , when you call any American hospitals , every utility company, Government agencies etc... they all tell you 1 for English 2 for Spanish/Mexican (they really are 2 very different languages),,

I live in New Mexico ( that state between Az. and Tex.) I can remember Spanish kids my age back in school could not conversations with their own grandparents because they weren't bylingle their parents wouldn't talk anything but english in the home

and of course in school the only place Spanish was spoke was in the High school Spanish classes you had to take to graduate.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:22 pm

You may not like it, but it's a fact, North Americans will have to learn Spanish if you want to function well over the rest of this century. Hispanics comprise a large amount of the U.S. population and they ain't going away. They will learn English and we will learn Spanish, and then we will be bi-lingual like much of Europe. Don't fight it, cause it's gonna happen like it or not.

Se Habla Ingles?

scholle-kid · Post by **scholle-kid** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:35 pm

Well now ,as long as they keep putting the signs in both english and mexican and always say push 1 for english in english I don't have any plans to learn to speak anything but english.

I checked with www.snopes.com and this is the real thing

Here's a copy of Mexico's Immigration Laws

1. There will be NO special bilingual programs in the schools, NO special ballots for elections, and all government business will be

conducted in our language.

>

> 2. Foreigners will NOT have the right to vote, no matter how long they are here.

>

> 3. Foreigners will NEVER be able to hold political office.

>

> 4. Foreigners will NOT be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, NO food stamps, NO health care, nor any other government assistance

programs.

>

> 5. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.

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> 6. If foreigners do come and want to buy land that will be okay, BUT options will be restricted. You are NOT allowed to own waterfront property. That property is reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.

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> 7. Foreigners may NOT protest; NO emonstrations, NO waving a foreign > flag, NO political organizing, NO "bad-mouthing" our president or

his policies. If you do you will be sent home.

>

> 8. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be hunted down and sent straight to jail.

>

I'm noy trying to hijack the thread or statrt any drama

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:33 pm

scholle-kid;927840 wrote: Well now ,as long as they keep putting the signs in both english and mexican and always say push 1 for english in english I don't have any plans to learn to speak anything but english.

I checked with www.snopes.com and this is the real thing

Here's a copy of Mexico's Immigration Laws

1. There will be NO special bilingual programs in the schools, NO special ballots for elections, and all government business will be

conducted in our language.

>

> 2. Foreigners will NOT have the right to vote, no matter how long they are here.

>

> 3. Foreigners will NEVER be able to hold political office.

>

> 4. Foreigners will NOT be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, NO food stamps, NO health care, nor any other government assistance

programs.

>

> 5. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.

>

> 6. If foreigners do come and want to buy land that will be okay, BUT options will be restricted. You are NOT allowed to own waterfront property. That property is reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.

>

> 7. Foreigners may NOT protest; NO emonstrations, NO waving a foreign > flag, NO political organizing, NO "bad-mouthing" our president or

his policies. If you do you will be sent home.

>

> 8. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be hunted down and sent straight to jail.

>

I'm noy trying to hijack the thread or statrt any drama

If Americans represented as large a percentage of the population of Mexico as Hispanics are represented in the U.S., you better believe Mexican laws would change. It's all about $$$$$$$$ and POWER!!!

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:34 am

Accountable;927661 wrote: Do you have to press 1 for English if you call customer service?

No we just get english speakers who can't understand regional british accents.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:05 am

You should consider yourself lucky if you don't like other languages on your products, in Europe we normally have instructions written in 7 or 8 languages. As of course Europe is extremely diverse culturally.

English is the lingua franca, though Britiain seems determined to undermine its own influence on the continent as it seems to escape the English that the benefits of their language becomming the main working language of the European Union, (perhaps the Germans or the French will capitalize on this in coming decades) more than offsets any cultural imports from the continent (most of which are ones you would want anyway, like better food, a less LCD attitude to culture, and nice looking birds). The EU is not a good comparison though, as its not a nation state unlike the US, and it never will be, even if it does one day turn into a confederation or federation, Europe is a civilization, not a nation, so it will always have a lot more cultural diversity than the US.

I do take the point about having a single language though in terms of cultural cohesion, within the nation state, certainly in Britain its recognized, that while its desirable to not denigrate other cultures, its vital that the linguistic and social structure of a society are promoted and maintained, if social cohesion is going to be viable in the long term. But it would seem to be me, that having English as the first language, and giving Spanish some recognition as the secondary, minority language is not the end of the world. Its the defacto situation anyway, though English obviously should retain its primacy.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:09 am

Also in Ireland may I say, that although we all speak English as our first language, we also have our own Irish Language or Gaelic, which is completely different. The language was almost wiped out when Ireland was a colony and particularly after the famine, but its undergoing something of a revival, and its very important for our own identity that we don't lose that major aspect of what defines Irishness, though its totally sensible to retain English as the main language as its so useful and the rest of the people on these Islands now all speak English. So we see multilingualism as a very good thing, and its a shame we are so bad at it, like our English cousins, who generally can only manage a few words a la francais, but at least they all speak their own language.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:53 am

Americans, I think you're aiming the wrong direction to point the blame. I don't think it has much to do with the Spanish-speaking immigrants so much as our PC elite's bigotry. Rather than seeing ethical, hardowrking people who come to make better lives for themselves and their children, they see dark skin, cheap clothes, and poor living conditions.

In short, the PC crowd are practicing bigotry (how I hate the misnomer 'racism').

They honestly believe that Central and South American immigrants are unable to learn English or assimilate quickly. Never mind that their own ancester did it. "These are different times."

So don't aim your anger at the Spanish-speaking immigrants. They just got here and didn't make the rules. In fact, if you get a translator and ask them, I'll bet most expect to have to learn English. Instead, be angry at the politicians and the people who attend the $500-a-plate functions who need something to feel good about. They're the ones who started this.

QUINNSCOMMENTARY · Post by **QUINNSCOMMENTARY** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:44 am

Lon;927833 wrote: You may not like it, but it's a fact, North Americans will have to learn Spanish if you want to function well over the rest of this century. Hispanics comprise a large amount of the U.S. population and they ain't going away. They will learn English and we will learn Spanish, and then we will be bi-lingual like much of Europe. Don't fight it, cause it's gonna happen like it or not.

Se Habla Ingles?

So why are German, French and Italian not part of our dual language culture? The point is not so much the langauge as the fundmantal difference as to why people come to America and their allegiance once they are here to live permanently.

If you want to come to America to become an American, welcome.

If you want to come to America and use the benefits of doing so, but remain a non-American in culture and language, then visit and say good bye. I will never forget a clip I saw on TV where a man stood up and yelled, " I live in America, I work in America, but I will never be an American!"

That is the difference I worry about...and you should too.

QUINNSCOMMENTARY · Post by **QUINNSCOMMENTARY** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:06 am

Lon;927850 wrote: If Americans represented as large a percentage of the population of Mexico as Hispanics are represented in the U.S., you better believe Mexican laws would change. It's all about $$$$$$$$ and POWER!!!

While Mexico does have strict immigration laws within its constitution, your quote is not credible, it is merely a posting on Snoopes. I checked the US Embasy sight and many other sites on the topic and could not find any such rules, but did find the Mexican immigration laws.

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:10 pm

I have a 1922 Montgomery Wards catalog. The order instructions are printed in 13 languages including English. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

QUINNSCOMMENTARY · Post by **QUINNSCOMMENTARY** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:12 pm

hoppy;929204 wrote: I have a 1922 Montgomery Wards catalog. The order instructions are printed in 13 languages including English. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

But I bet all those immigrants kids spoke English.

madinchicago · Post by **madinchicago** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:16 am

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Our tactics and techniques are really taking hold across America and we need you to listen to ideas and recommendations from our movement's top leaders and activists. We are also interested in your questions and suggestions.

The topics of the mass murder of the Bologna family by an illegal alien MS-13 gang member in sanctuary city San Francisco will be discussed along with the high gas prices issue. The breaking story about a reversal in the decision to allow illegal aliens into college in NC will also be on the table along with a short follow-up on the Rush concert in Charlotte last weekend!

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southern yankee · Post by **southern yankee** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:08 am

madinchicago;932310 wrote: Hello folks! This is my first post here. I was pulled here by a google search.

It appears to be an interesting forum website.

This topic is an important one for America’s very near future. I would like to invite all patriots interested in saving America to tune in to the web based live radio show today.

The shows name is “Last Americans Standing and is hosted by William Gheen. William has been on many news shows from CNN to FOXNEWS (And all points between). He is also the founder of ALIPAC. (Americans for LEGAL Immigration PAC). It is a forum site like this, but it is more focused in the topics of ILLEGAL Immigration, and issues of saving the American culture from the non-caring public officials from ALL levels of government.

We are not neo-cons, racists, bigots, xenophobes; we are everyday Americans that want our country back. We are unhappy with this invasion (yes invasion) of our country that is jeopardizing our nation and our children’s future. We go to work, school, shopping, the parks and zoos with the families and witness our culture changing to Hispanic before over very eyes.

Wake up America – Wake up! Start by joining us today. Tune into today’s web/radio show.

I realize this short notice. It’s about 3 hours from now, but I hope some of you make it. But then if you miss the live show there are free pod-casts available. (As well as for past shows). This show is a call-in type of show so you too can state your views, as well as hear other everyday Americans across this country. Again if you miss the show it’s on every Sunday at 2:00 Central time.

Last Americans Standing

Please join citizen activists and organization leaders from across America this Sunday July 27 on the Last Americans Standing Show. The show will broadcast 12-2pm Pacific and 3-5pm Eastern and will focus on what Americans are doing to fight back against illegal immigration, pass state and city laws, stop amnesty, promote border security, and reverse illegal immigration in America.

Our tactics and techniques are really taking hold across America and we need you to listen to ideas and recommendations from our movement's top leaders and activists. We are also interested in your questions and suggestions.

The topics of the mass murder of the Bologna family by an illegal alien MS-13 gang member in sanctuary city San Francisco will be discussed along with the high gas prices issue. The breaking story about a reversal in the decision to allow illegal aliens into college in NC will also be on the table along with a short follow-up on the Rush concert in Charlotte last weekend!

It is time for a two hour meeting of the minds! We hope you will bring your ideas to the table and listen in to gain ideas from others this Sunday! You can listen to the show live via LastAmericans and Republicbroadcasting.

Tune in! Turn On! And Take Your Country Back!
Don't know where the station? Live in La.

madinchicago · Post by **madinchicago** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:52 am

southern yankee;932329 wrote: Don't know where the station? Live in La.

I'm not allowed to post url until after 15 posts (Which I can respect the rules)

You can find them on your own, just Google the name(s) referenced at the end of the article (via: ????) I had drop the web references to post that.

Also I hope this dose not violate the rule and get me kick off.

The actual station is in Valparaiso IN. but can be heard on the web!

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:01 pm

madinchicago;932310 wrote: Hello folks! This is my first post here. I was pulled here by a google search.

It appears to be an interesting forum website.

This topic is an important one for America’s very near future. I would like to invite all patriots interested in saving America to tune in to the web based live radio show today.

The shows name is “Last Americans Standing and is hosted by William Gheen. William has been on many news shows from CNN to FOXNEWS (And all points between). He is also the founder of ALIPAC. (Americans for LEGAL Immigration PAC). It is a forum site like this, but it is more focused in the topics of ILLEGAL Immigration, and issues of saving the American culture from the non-caring public officials from ALL levels of government.

We are not neo-cons, racists, bigots, xenophobes; we are everyday Americans that want our country back. We are unhappy with this invasion (yes invasion) of our country that is jeopardizing our nation and our children’s future. We go to work, school, shopping, the parks and zoos with the families and witness our culture changing to Hispanic before our very eyes.

Wake up America – Wake up! Start by joining us today. Tune into today’s web/radio show.

I realize this short notice. It’s about 3 hours from now, but I hope some of you make it. But then if you miss the live show there are free pod-casts available. (As well as for past shows). This show is a call-in type of show so you too can state your views, as well as hear other everyday Americans across this country. Again if you miss the show it’s on every Sunday at 2:00 Central time.

Last Americans Standing

Please join citizen activists and organization leaders from across America this Sunday July 27 on the Last Americans Standing Show. The show will broadcast 12-2pm Pacific and 3-5pm Eastern and will focus on what Americans are doing to fight back against illegal immigration, pass state and city laws, stop amnesty, promote border security, and reverse illegal immigration in America.

Our tactics and techniques are really taking hold across America and we need you to listen to ideas and recommendations from our movement's top leaders and activists. We are also interested in your questions and suggestions.

The topics of the mass murder of the Bologna family by an illegal alien MS-13 gang member in sanctuary city San Francisco will be discussed along with the high gas prices issue. The breaking story about a reversal in the decision to allow illegal aliens into college in NC will also be on the table along with a short follow-up on the Rush concert in Charlotte last weekend!

It is time for a two hour meeting of the minds! We hope you will bring your ideas to the table and listen in to gain ideas from others this Sunday! You can listen to the show live via LastAmericans and Republicbroadcasting.

Tune in! Turn On! And Take Your Country Back!
I apparently just missed it. But welcome. Check around. There's lots here to see and talk about. :-6

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:00 pm

QUINNSCOMMENTARY;929216 wrote: But I bet all those immigrants kids spoke English.

Wishful thinking?

It wouldn't have been done unless it paid dividends.

southern yankee · Post by **southern yankee** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:08 pm

madinchicago;932377 wrote: I'm not allowed to post url until after 15 posts (Which I can respect the rules)

You can find them on your own, just Google the name(s) referenced at the end of the article (via: ????) I had drop the web references to post that.

Also I hope this dose not violate the rule and get me kick off.

The actual station is in Valparaiso IN. but can be heard on the web! near my home town of Hammond:D

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:09 pm

It's not as if the overwhelming accepted language in America(English) is at risk of losing it's precedent...

I do see a problem with a significant amount of American citizens being unable to understand English...This leads to political ignorance when not at the luxury of an interpreter...

Other than being schooled in English so that they can be familiar with society, which is will/would probably be the case anyway, I don't see a problem with the Spanish, and French languages on alot of American products...When all you see on products are the Spanish and French languages then we have a problem...

madinchicago · Post by **madinchicago** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:13 pm

southern yankee;933612 wrote: near my home town of Hammond:D

Then you should be able to pick it up with your radio.

You can listen live on the web thanks to our friends at The Republic Broadcast Network (TBN) republicbroadcasting

or the show can be heard on terrestrial stations WBCR 1470am Alcoa, TN and 93.3 FM in Valparaiso, IN

southern yankee · Post by **southern yankee** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:23 pm

madinchicago;933845 wrote: Then you should be able to pick it up with your radio.

You can listen live on the web thanks to our friends at The Republic Broadcast Network (TBN) republicbroadcasting

or the show can be heard on terrestrial stations WBCR 1470am Alcoa, TN and 93.3 FM in Valparaiso, IN i was Raised there live in La. now

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:32 am

Here's the link

http://www.republicbroadcasting.org/ind ... listenlive