New Car! Free Gun with Purchase!

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Thu May 22, 2008 4:32 pm

Missouri Car Dealer Offers Free Gun With Car Purchase

Thursday, May 22, 2008

BUTLER, Mo. — Salesmen at one Missouri car dealership aren't just kicking in a free CD player or factory air: They're offering a free handgun with every purchase.

Through the end of the month, car buyers at Max Motors in Butler will have a choice — $250 toward either a gun purchase or gasoline.

General manager Walter Moore said that so far, most buyers have chosen the gun, adding that he suggests they opt for a semiautomatic model "because it holds more rounds."

(In the fine print, the ad on the Web site explains, "Check written toward purchase price" and also mentions, "Approved Background Check REQUIRED!!")

Moore said he suspects his "Free Handgun" ad will draw protests in some places. But not in Butler, about 65 miles south of Kansas City.

Moore said, "Down here, we all believe in God, guts and guns."

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Thu May 22, 2008 5:56 pm

Oh, come on..!!!

There had to be other incentives - New Flat Screen TV ??

This sounds nuts to me - I wouldn't even buy a car from a Dealership that promoted GUNS..

Patsy

Richard Bell · Post by **Richard Bell** » Thu May 22, 2008 8:07 pm

"Your One Stop, "Road Rage" Headquarters."

cars · Post by **cars** » Thu May 22, 2008 8:11 pm

The way gas prices are skyrocketing, you're going to need a gun to get it!!!:wah:

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Thu May 22, 2008 8:14 pm

Richard

That's a great reply !!!:wah:

Cars - your so right - another great reply.

Patsy

AussiePam · Post by **AussiePam** » Thu May 22, 2008 8:32 pm

Reckon yall oughta hold out until they offer free ammo as well... It's not the guns that kill other motorists who can't freaking drive and get up your nose... it's the bullets.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu May 22, 2008 11:24 pm

So its seems that the US is turning into that mad max movie, brilliant. You need to also build a thunderdome as well and all fight each other in it.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri May 23, 2008 3:24 am

Where's the tolerance?? People are getting chastised left right and center around here for not being tolerant of other beliefs, cultures, etc etc etc.

So he gives out gift cards for guns R us. So what? I guess if he only gave the incentive for pickups or SUVs he'd be strung up & the lynch mob acquitted by now.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Fri May 23, 2008 3:54 am

Accountable;872527 wrote: Where's the tolerance?? People are getting chastised left right and center around here for not being tolerant of other beliefs, cultures, etc etc etc.

So he gives out gift cards for guns R us. So what? I guess if he only gave the incentive for pickups or SUVs he'd be strung up & the lynch mob acquitted by now.

Oh, I'm quite sure he will be able to take out any braying mob, he just needs to fire up a couple of M-60's, roof-mounted, with the armour piercing rounds, he can finish off the survivors with his 9mm pistol, if anyone complains he can just explain that he is expressing his cultural heritage.

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Fri May 23, 2008 4:14 am

Patsy Warnick;872419 wrote: Oh, come on..!!!

There had to be other incentives - New Flat Screen TV ??

This sounds nuts to me - I wouldn't even buy a car from a Dealership that promoted GUNS..

Patsy

Yet, I bet you buy Chinese-made goods without a thought about how you are helping build up their military machine or their lousy human rights history.

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Fri May 23, 2008 4:25 am

Accountable;872527 wrote: Where's the tolerance?? People are getting chastised left right and center around here for not being tolerant of other beliefs, cultures, etc etc etc.

So he gives out gift cards for guns R us. So what? I guess if he only gave the incentive for pickups or SUVs he'd be strung up & the lynch mob acquitted by now.

:) Yeah, but you can criticise close friends in a friendly way that would be outight rudeness to a distant acquiantance.

Besides, if it happened over here you'd have a fullblown Women's Peace Camp outside the gates exercising their freedom to protest without fear of some maniac blowing them away with a free gift bazooka!

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Fri May 23, 2008 6:50 am

Hoppy

Your wrong - and don't assume

It's very difficult to find "Made in the US".. Do I look before a purchase, you bet.

I won't promote guns and I wouldn't purchase a vehicle from a Dealership that was promoting guns - that simple.

Patsy

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri May 23, 2008 6:58 am

Galbally;872484 wrote: So its seems that the US is turning into that mad max movie, brilliant. You need to also build a thunderdome as well and all fight each other in it.

We have that already..

Hmm so does the UK..

You dont think he did it for publicity do you? Anyone that wants a gun already has one, you don't have to buy a truck from this guy to get one.

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Fri May 23, 2008 7:43 am

Jester;872675 wrote: 9mm's too small... :rolleyes:

Ya got that right. Where I live, punks carry 9mm's and get shot by men who carry .44's or .45's.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri May 23, 2008 7:47 am

Jester;872678 wrote: Wizey, oh great one, has struck bullseye first... dead center. Must be one of them good fellers with a gun, eh?

I reckon so pardner..

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Fri May 23, 2008 8:06 am

YZGI;872657 wrote: We have that already..

Hmm so does the UK..

You dont think he did it for publicity do you? Anyone that wants a gun already has one, you don't have to buy a truck from this guy to get one.

I think the angle is

"Worried about the the godamn rising cost of Oil? Dont Worry! At Honest Al's you get a real-life gun with each new Buick, so you can make sure you never have any problems getting to the top of the queue for gas!"

I guess we just find it hilarious that someone would think that giving away lethal weapons with a car is a cool marketing idea, and more importantly no one in authority minds him doing it or seems to see why this might not be the most entirely sensible idea of all time, you lot really are nuts you know.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Fri May 23, 2008 8:08 am

Jester;872702 wrote: Yeah!

I love it when they get punched to the ground by a 44mag. *Jester reholsters, whispers, "do you feel lucky now punk, well do ya?"*

:wah:

Have you taken your medication today Jester? I think its happening again.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri May 23, 2008 8:13 am

Galbally;872728 wrote: I think the angle is

"Worried about the the godamn rising cost of Oil? Dont Worry! At Honest Al's you get a real-life gun with each new Buick, so you can make sure you never have any problems getting to the top of the queue for gas!"

I guess we just find it hilarious that someone would think that giving away lethal weapons with a car is a cool marketing idea, you lot really are nuts you know.

Actually we think it is just as stupid as you lot. Thats the point. He is just doing to get publicity and its working.

I rebuild and sell car and truck engines. I'm thinking if this works for the dude to get publicity I might try it with my engines. Wait I just got another idea.

Hey Jester you know where I can pick up some slightly used bazookas?:D

Post by **jones jones** » Fri May 23, 2008 8:40 am

leaving aside the moral and ethical issues ...

the american constitution provides the guarantee to bear arms ... or words to that effect ...

the car dealer is therefore within his rights to offer this incentive to his clients ...

i should imagine that if anyone in the usa needs a firearm they would not have to purchase an automobile to acquire one ...

firearms do not kill people ... people kill people ...

Jj

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Fri May 23, 2008 9:31 am

jones jones;872778 wrote: firearms do not kill people ... people kill people ...Jj

Sure, but I think the gun makes it a little bit easier, than say...... using a stick? no?

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Fri May 23, 2008 9:33 am

YZGI;872734 wrote: Actually we think it is just as stupid as you lot. Thats the point. He is just doing to get publicity and its working.

I rebuild and sell car and truck engines. I'm thinking if this works for the dude to get publicity I might try it with my engines. Wait I just got another idea.

Hey Jester you know where I can pick up some slightly used bazookas?:D

Yeah, and who is gonna argue with you lot, seeing as you are already armed to the teeth and trigger happy as a porno star at a movie award eh? :rolleyes: Still, at least your streets are safe from the scourge of crime, unlike that hell hole, Canada. :wah:

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Fri May 23, 2008 9:35 am

jones jones;872778 wrote: leaving aside the moral and ethical issues ...

the american constitution provides the guarantee to bear arms ... or words to that effect ...

the car dealer is therefore within his rights to offer this incentive to his clients ...

i should imagine that if anyone in the usa needs a firearm they would not have to purchase an automobile to acquire one ...

firearms do not kill people ... people kill people ...

Jj

What about if they gave you a free car with a gun? The way oil is going, its gonna be hard to shift those log-cabin sized SUVs I would imagine.

Post by **jones jones** » Fri May 23, 2008 9:37 am

Galbally;872817 wrote: Sure, but I think the gun makes it a little bit easier, than say...... using a stick? no?

100% correct ...

my point is that if A really really wants to kill B or at the very least ... shoot B ... he aint gonna have to buy a car first ... unless he wants to run him down!

human killed human long before the invention of the firearm!

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Fri May 23, 2008 9:40 am

I couldn't agree more Dr. G the whole thing is insane. Has there been a count yet as to how many Buick's he has sold because of this stunt?

[QUOTE]and more importantly no one in authority minds him doing it or seems to see why this might not be the most entirely sensible idea of all time, you lot really are nuts you know. [/QUOTE]

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri May 23, 2008 10:12 am

Jester;872842 wrote:

Her's a pic of me with my first "zooka", years ago. I set up a hair trigger and increased power so I could reach out beyond the typical affective range. It's no onwder I became a weapons expert... :wah:
Cool, I think I had one just like it. I also remember getting a cannon that shot plastic balls. Oh the days of yore..:wah:

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Fri May 23, 2008 10:34 am

Thank God were have our CHOICES

Patsy

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Fri May 23, 2008 10:36 am

Jester I understand all the right to bear arms stuff. It still is insane and digusting stunt by any standards. :-5

[QUOTE]The fact that some here want the authorities to do something makes me think that some folks dont want to live in a free country with guranteed rights, such as the right to bear arms, becasue if your so quick to sanction authority to stop a free right then you obviously wont care too much when we take your umbrella's since it has a pointy end and you could hurt yourself or others with it..

Local Time: 10:32 AM

Local Date: 05-23-2008[/QUOTE]

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri May 23, 2008 10:47 am

Would it have made people feel better if he had just given a $250 coupon for a sporting goods store. Yes it probably would have, they could still purchase a gun in that store and he wouldn't get near the attention as he is getting now.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Fri May 23, 2008 10:51 am

Yep, nuts. :rolleyes:

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Fri May 23, 2008 10:59 am

I agree why not throw in a case of beer and let them drive off into the sunset hopefully not heading toward San Diego.

[QUOTE]But thats not what Im getting at, although it is an ad 'stunt', its what draws his perspective buyers, he's catering to the market.

If hot pads sold more cars he'd give them away.[/QUOTE]

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Fri May 23, 2008 11:03 am

Jester;872851 wrote: Ok I guess soem of you are serious so I'll give a serious reply:

Its a marketing ploy based on regional polls to attract the type of person that buys buicks in his area, which no doubt are gun toting americans.

If he was selling them to englishmen, he'd give free umbrella's instead.

Since its legal to give anyone cash towards a legal purchase of any item of course no authority is going to say anything, its legal.

The fact that some here want the authorities to do something makes me think that some folks dont want to live in a free country with guranteed rights, such as the right to bear arms, becasue if your so quick to sanction authority to stop a free right then you obviously wont care too much when we take your umbrella's since it has a pointy end and you could hurt yourself or others with it..

Well seeing as I am Irish, I think the equivalent would be to give 12 bottles of whiskey free with my next car, which again is probably not the way that whiskey should be promoted or sold. Handguns, like all firearms, are lethal weapons, however you want to euphemize their primary function, which is to end someone's life, and wrap it up whatever way you like, thats what they are designed for, not hunting, or clay pidgeon shooting, or tag, or providing an inflated sense of false personal power (thats just a side-effect on an immature mind). Whatever about allowing people to buy and own handguns, it is, to say the least, a little tasteless to offer free guns as part of a marketing promotion.

What next? A Smith and Wesson half price, with every 20 Big Macs? Or how about an Uzi free with a crate of Budweiser? Its nuts, end of story. What I can't wait to find out is at what point does the bit in the American constitution about the right to "bear arms" (which as far as I can see was written as a political safeguard against the general coertion of the common populace, and also a recognition that the newly formed citizens militia's of the 18th century were not prepared to disarm themselves, given the experiences of the War of Independence, not a blanket right for people to "tool up" to 21st century military levels) gonna be interpreted as every new born child must be supplied with an assault rifle?

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Fri May 23, 2008 11:08 am

Galbally;872891 wrote: Well seeing as I am Irish, I think the equivalent would be to give 12 bottles of whiskey free with my next car, which again is probably not the way that whiskey should be promoted or sold. Handguns, like all firearms, are lethal weapons, however you want to euphemize their primary function, which is to end someone's life, and wrap it up whatever way you like, thats what they are designed for, not hunting, or clay pidgeon shooting, or tag, or providing an inflated sense of false personal power (thats just a side-effect on an immature mind). Whatever about allowing people to buy and own handguns, it is, to say the least, a little tasteless to offer free guns as part of a marketing promotion.

What next? A Smith and Wesson half price, with every 20 Big Macs? Or how about an Uzi free with a crate of Budweiser? Its nuts, end of story. What I can't wait to find out is at what point does the bit in the American constitution about the right to "bear arms" (which as far as I can see was written as a political safeguard against the general coertion of the common populace, and also a recognition that the newly formed citizens militia's of the 18th century were not prepared to disarm themselves, given the experiences of the War of Independence, not a blanket right for people to "tool up" to 21st century military levels) gonna be interpreted as every new born child must be supplied with an assault rifle?

Using your warped train of thought then, a knife's primary purpose is to stab someone with.

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Fri May 23, 2008 11:15 am

Were not talking Knife's here were talking GUNS who's only purpose is to kill, mame, and destroy life be it animal or human they are used for nothing else. Yes we have the right to bear arms but the notion was written when muskets were the arms and it took 15 minutes to get the powder in and take a shot. Todays guns are people killers and they do it remarkable fast and effectively. Like I said throw in a case of Beer and send them down the highway insane..

[QUOTE]Using your warped train of thought then, a knife's primary purpose is to stab someone with.[/QUOTE]

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Fri May 23, 2008 11:18 am

CARLA;872903 wrote: Were not talking Knife's here were talking GUNS who's only purpose is to kill, mame, and destroy life be it animal or human they are used for nothing else. Yes we have the right to bear arms but the notion was written when muskets were the arms and it took 15 minutes to get the powder in and take a shot. Todays guns are people killers and they do it remarkable fast and effectivly.

Okay, if you are bringing time period into play, and you are, then the whole constitution and bill of rights should be scrapped. Can we keep the 10 commandments, I wonder?

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Fri May 23, 2008 11:20 am

hoppy;872904 wrote: Okay, if you are bringing time period into play, and you are, then the whole constitution and bill of rights should be scrapped. Can we keep the 10 commandments, I wonder?

By the way, a trained shooter could get off a couple shots a minute even then.

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Fri May 23, 2008 11:26 am

Hoppy

How do you figure Gall has a warped train of thought ??

and a knife is NOT the same a gun. A gun that's designed to kill people - not for a sport of hunting..

Perhaps there are very strong feelings here and should be

remember the thread from jj "have you ever had a GUN pointed at you"

Yes the dealership chose the Gun Ad for attention - obviously his idea wasn't brought up through the ranks of management.

Patsy

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Fri May 23, 2008 11:27 am

hoppy;872895 wrote: Using your warped train of thought then, a knife's primary purpose is to stab someone with.

So are you saying that a hand gun is designed to open jam jars? Ot tie a slip knot? What's warped about pointing out what the function of a handgun is? Its a weapon, for use on people. Would you dispute that? What other useful practical purpose other than shooting at someone, either to attack them, or in response to an attack, is a handgun any use for? I can't see why you would think otherwise, unless of course you treat it like some quasi-religious symbol of "freedom".

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Fri May 23, 2008 11:28 am

No the 10 Commandments are air tight in my view.

The Constitution is subject to interpretation, review, and amendments always in my opinion. In my humble view just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean you should, this stunt fall in that category for me.

[QUOTE]Okay, if you are bringing time period into play, and you are, then the whole constitution and bill of rights should be scrapped. Can we keep the 10 commandments, I wonder?[/QUOTE]

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Fri May 23, 2008 11:31 am

Patsy Warnick;872909 wrote: Hoppy

How do you figure Gall has a warped train of thought ??

and a knife is NOT the same a gun. A gun that's designed to kill people - not for a sport of hunting..

Perhaps there are very strong feelings here and should be

remember the thread from jj "have you ever had a GUN pointed at you"

Yes the dealership chose the Gun Ad for attention - obviously his idea wasn't brought up through the ranks of management.

Patsy

First, there IS such a sport as handgun hunting. Done it myself, often. There ARE target matches FOR handguns. Olympic matches too yet.

I realize a knife is not a gun but the thinking behind saying a handgun is only for killing people is the same as saying a knife is only for stabbing people.