Legalizing Prostitution

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:18 am

I have thrown in this Client #9 video for fun (as it is a current topic) ....

Do you think prostitution should be legalized ?

I have mixed feeling about this one. On the one hand, I feel that sex is a special moment between two people who love each other, and should not treated like a packet of bacon purchased from the local grocery shop. On the other hand, as it is obviously not going to go away, would it not be better to legalize and hopefully clean up the whole process.

If it were legalized what would it be telling our youth about sex.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:35 am

ThePheasant;804246 wrote: Do you think prostitution should be legalized ?

If it were legalized what would it be telling our youth about sex.
Yes. What consenting adults do is their business. As for youth, it is the parents' / families' job to raise them properly, not the legislature. Otherwise, it should be illegal to eat dessert before finishing one's veggies.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:28 am

Accountable;804251 wrote: Yes. What consenting adults do is their business. As for youth, it is the parents' / families' job to raise them properly, not the legislature. Otherwise, it should be illegal to eat dessert before finishing one's veggies.I agree 100% and also believe there would be more rapes and even worse if these people didn't exist.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:03 am

Carolly;804274 wrote: I agree 100% and also believe there would be more rapes and even worse if these people didn't exist.
That very well may be. But I'm even more concerned with government legislating morality. That ain't their job.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:38 am

Accountable;804302 wrote: That very well may be. But I'm even more concerned with government legislating morality. That ain't their job.Its called dictatorship.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:53 am

Carolly;804324 wrote: Its called dictatorship.
I can type, but I don't take dictation well.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:57 am

Accountable;804334 wrote: I can type, but I don't take dictation well.

I bet some of those telling us what we can or cant do take it very well..........if you get my gist:rolleyes:

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:03 am

Carolly;804337 wrote: I bet some of those telling us what we can or cant do take it very well..........if you get my gist:rolleyes:
Hey hey hey! Be nice or I'll be forced to make a citizen's arrest. :p

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:04 am

Accountable;804342 wrote: Hey hey hey! Be nice or I'll be forced to make a citizen's arrest. :pOhhhhh ok if I have to:(

koan · Post by **koan** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:48 am

If it were legal, so many marriages would be validated and legitimate. :sneaky:

Richard Bell · Post by **Richard Bell** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:12 am

ThePheasant;804246 wrote: On the one hand, I feel that sex is a special moment between two people who love each other

["Sex without love is an empty, meaningless experience...but as empty, meaningless experiences go, it's the best."

Woody Allen

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:15 am

Accountable;804251 wrote: Yes. What consenting adults do is their business. As for youth, it is the parents' / families' job to raise them properly, not the legislature. Otherwise, it should be illegal to eat dessert before finishing one's veggies.

A good point :-6

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:18 am

Carolly;804274 wrote: I agree 100% and also believe there would be more rapes and even worse if these people didn't exist.

I do agree Carolly. Although it would be interesting to know what % of rapes are due to sexual desire, or some kick out fear/dominance. :-6

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:20 am

Rape has never been about desire it is about power, no desire envolved.

I do agree it should be legal as many other things should be legal in this country. Same sex marriages comes to mind.

Fibonacci · Post by **Fibonacci** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:09 pm

It's legal in Nevada. Not all of nevada just certain areas.

Mystery · Post by **Mystery** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:44 pm

Not so sure about that, as it could also cause even more problems. For instance, we know for certain it would be taxed and controlled, and most likely highly expensive, so you'd still have those doing it illegally and this could increase bad stuff, like human trafficking. Then again, there's a negative to everything, just have to weigh it/them with the positive(s).

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:07 pm

Prostitution is legal in the UK.

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:47 pm

abbey;804638 wrote: Prostitution is legal in the UK.

REALLY!! When did that happen? :-6

laneybug · Post by **laneybug** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 3:00 pm

Carolly;804274 wrote: I agree 100% and also believe there would be more rapes and even worse if these people didn't exist.

I highly doubt rape would decrease. Simply because rape isn't all about sex. It's about taking sex against the other person's will. It's about domination and control. They use sex because it is the most vulnerable state a person can be in, therefore heightening the domination/control factor. The kind of people who would rape someone are probably not going to pay a woman to have sex, since paying her would be giving her some measure of control. Why would a rapist want his victim to have any control?

So, I disagree with prostitution being legal. If prostitution were legal, they might as well make heroin legal, since "consenting adults can go about their business" as they please, right?

Also, I don't like the idea of a human body having a legal price tag in a sexual sense.

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:29 pm

ThePheasant;804660 wrote: REALLY!! When did that happen? :-6It is legal, but illegal to ply your trade.

http://www.sexwork.com/coalition/englandwales.html

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:38 pm

laneybug;804672 wrote: I highly doubt rape would decrease. Simply because rape isn't all about sex. It's about taking sex against the other person's will. It's about domination and control. They use sex because it is the most vulnerable state a person can be in, therefore heightening the domination/control factor. The kind of people who would rape someone are probably not going to pay a woman to have sex, since paying her would be giving her some measure of control. Why would a rapist want his victim to have any control?

So, I disagree with prostitution being legal. If prostitution were legal, they might as well make heroin legal, since "consenting adults can go about their business" as they please, right?

Also, I don't like the idea of a human body having a legal price tag in a sexual sense.Well everybody has their own thoughts on this subject and your not going to change mine like Im sure I wont yours but I found your comments very interesting as I did the poll results.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:44 pm

laneybug;804672 wrote: So, I disagree with prostitution being legal. If prostitution were legal, they might as well make heroin legal, since "consenting adults can go about their business" as they please, right?Right! Yes, Ma'am. Absolutely. I'd be glad to discuss it in another thread, if you'd like.

laneybug wrote: Also, I don't like the idea of a human body having a legal price tag in a sexual sense.I don't either. The human body is a most precious work of art gifted from God. Priceless. Abusing that gift is a shame, but a right. It's not my place to dictate to another person what to do with her gift.

Tan · Post by **Tan** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:11 pm

Interesting!

cherandbuster · Post by **cherandbuster** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:36 pm

Tan;804852 wrote: Interesting!

Isn't it!

I'm all for legalizing prostitution -- as well as gay marriage (which is legal in my home state of Massachusetts) -- but I do think that things operate on a sliding scale here.

I don't think that heroin or meth or should be legalized, but I think that marijuana should be. I don't see it as a "gateway drug" at all.

To me, these things are not 'all or nothing'. I think we need to use good judgment on an issue-by-issue basis.

laneybug · Post by **laneybug** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:58 pm

Accountable;804830 wrote: Right! Yes, Ma'am. Absolutely. I'd be glad to discuss it in another thread, if you'd like.

Sure! I'm always up for a good discussion to broaden my viewpoints.

Accountable;804830 wrote: I don't either. The human body is a most precious work of art gifted from God. Priceless. Abusing that gift is a shame, but a right. It's not my place to dictate to another person what to do with her gift.

Very true. To abuse your own body is your own right. But, speaking of self-abuse, should we be alright with, for example, a 12 year old slitting their wrists because they were having a bad day? Should we not be compelled to help, versus simply saying, "it's their body, let them destroy it." Or, is this only in the context of what adults do, versus what children do?

If you legalize prostitution than you must legalize pimps and human trafficking. Plus, all the nitty gritty that comes with it. I think most people see prostitution as merely another form of self-employment for women and men. But, there is a much seedier, darker side to it. Prostitution isn't all about adults doing as they please. Some of it is the buying and selling of humans for sex, of age and underage. Prostitution also encompasses forms of human slavery. To legalize prostitution wouldn't make any of these problems go away, just as legalizing cocaine or heroin wouldn't make the death rates from overdose any lower, etc.

That's it. I'm done rambling!

Those are my thoughts. These polls are very interesting. I voted thinking that the majority wouldn't want it legalized, and I was wrong! It's good to see the differences in how people think.

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:09 pm

I think prostitution happens prolifically without prosecution within the institution of marriage. Lots of people date, have sex and marry someone solely for monetary reasons. Is that not prostitution?

laneybug · Post by **laneybug** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:11 pm

koan;805804 wrote: I think prostitution happens prolifically without prosecution within the institution of marriage. Lots of people date, have sex and marry someone solely for monetary reasons. Is that not prostitution?

Sure is. And those kinds of people turn marriage into a mockery.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:19 am

laneybug;805802 wrote:

Very true. To abuse your own body is your own right. But, speaking of self-abuse, should we be alright with, for example, a 12 year old slitting their wrists because they were having a bad day? Should we not be compelled to help, versus simply saying, "it's their body, let them destroy it." Or, is this only in the context of what adults do, versus what children do?Yes, I was referring to adults.

laneybug wrote: If you legalize prostitution than you must legalize pimps and human trafficking. Plus, all the nitty gritty that comes with it.Pimps maybe, but for the rest: Why? That has nothing to do with consenting adults.

laneybug wrote: I think most people see prostitution as merely another form of self-employment for women and men. But, there is a much seedier, darker side to it. Prostitution isn't all about adults doing as they please. Some of it is the buying and selling of humans for sex, of age and underage. Prostitution also encompasses forms of human slavery. To legalize prostitution wouldn't make any of these problems go away, just as legalizing cocaine or heroin wouldn't make the death rates from overdose any lower, etc.I don't see it as an all-or-nothing issue. As you write, there are different sides to it. I think the side involving consenting adults should be legal. To continue outlawing it doesn't change the seedier side either.

laneybug wrote: That's it. I'm done rambling!

Those are my thoughts. These polls are very interesting. I voted thinking that the majority wouldn't want it legalized, and I was wrong! It's good to see the differences in how people think. :)I'm surprised too. I think we did this before and the results were very different.

laneybug · Post by **laneybug** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:03 am

One thing does stand out for me in all of these conversations, whether prostitution, drugs, whatever. Children, as it should be, are allowed protection. For example, most think child prostitution is an outrage. And very true. Therefore, many people will donate their time and services to help such children in need. This is wonderful. But, are adults really so different? I'm not saying adults need to be treated like children, of course not, but are their emotional/mental/spiritual needs so different?

Well, Accountable, I think we both have decent arguments that have taken some thought. I think there is truth to what we both believe. Perhaps a blending of our thoughts would make the perfect system.