More on Fat Folks

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:22 pm

Yep---I'm fussin about fat people again. This morning I go to the doctors office for my routine exam. All the receptionists, nurses, technicians were not just fat, but OBESE. The doctor however looked fit and trim. What's going on with these folks? And, at least half the people in the waiting room were really pretty obese. I'm not talking 10 15 or 20 lbs, more like 40 50 & 100 lbs or more. Damn, wouldn't you think that those in the medical field would be able to watch and control their weight.

Post by **spot** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:33 pm

I thought fat was the new healthy?

Nuthrday · Post by **Nuthrday** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:44 pm

You know, I've noticed that myself over the years and it kind of bothers me. And I'm not being prejudiced cuz I've always had a weight problem, but fight it. Maybe it's just that people in the health field do an awful lot of sitting, and if they're not exercise-prone in the first place, it all adds up over the years!!

Agnes · Post by **Agnes** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:24 pm

Fat is In! people are at peace with obesity. i heard that on the news today?

Post by **spot** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:34 pm

It is, after all, Agnes, something that the masses can participate in without fear of failure. That alone must make it popular.

Clint · Post by **Clint** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:41 pm

Have you ever noticed how skinny men and heavy women are drawn to each other? IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve been fighting my weight for 40 years. I find that the people who are most indignant about overweight people have genes in their favor and have never had to work on keeping the pounds off.

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:06 pm

I too have had weight problems off and on in my life and have maintained a healthy weight for 5 years now - not fat - not skinny.

I do have to tell a story though. A lady came into our store in a double-wide wheelchair - she must have been over 500 pounds. She was very indignant the isles were not wide enough to accomodate her chair. The isles meet all the handicap specs and are actually a little wider. This woman threw the biggest hissy fit I have ever seen. I was fairly amazed at her I guess because a co-worker came over and told me I'd better pick my jaw up off the floor. :wah:

Peg · Post by **Peg** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:28 pm

Clint wrote: Have you ever noticed how skinny men and heavy women are drawn to each other? IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve been fighting my weight for 40 years. I find that the people who are most indignant about overweight people have genes in their favor and have never had to work on keeping the pounds off.

I have a dear friend who weighs around 400# and her husband weighs just over 100#. I guess opposites DO attract.

Nuthrday · Post by **Nuthrday** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:50 pm

Funny. Both husband and I are overweight. He kind of stays the same, I have always gone up and down. Am on a fabulous downward turn now, feeling very good about it all. Now he's the one who needs to work on it! I have an excellent metabolism, his seems slow. We're ALL totally different. You can't pigeonhole anybody and their weight, that's one thing I"ve learned...

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:05 pm

fat people seem to be the last group that can safely be ridiculed in our PC society. i do it too, always making fun of the 450 pound spandex-clad females i see running around down here. but once again i will say it is partially a poverty issue since the cheapest foods are all carbs; and a lack of nutrition education as well. i have no explanation why health-care workers are obese as Lon mentions, except they are human too. ---------personally i have fortunate genes, which is part of the equation. but can easily put on 20 pounds when not working, but at 5'11" it does not show much. while working my usual 12 hour shifts in the heat and living on iced coffee i drop weight very fast, i have gone to briefing and been told to take my duty belt in because it's falling off me, gun down to my butt and i look like barney fife! LOL ...........there are myriad factors.

greydeadhead · Post by **greydeadhead** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:27 am

I don't have a problem with people that have a genetic disposition towards obesity. But.. I have very little sympathy for couch potatoes.. and women like the one mentioned in the above post. Obesity had become socially accepted, despite the fact that it causes major health problems.. heart disease, diabetes.. etc.. and to call someone fat.. damn..stop the world and let me sue for discrimination.. if they don't like being called fat then do something about it. Sorry.. no easy way out here..

I sit at a desk all day long.. but .. in my free time, I am outside.. hiking.. bicycling.. walking the dog... in the winter.. gym time, spinning classes, skiing.. I have changed my diet to include more fresh veggies.. etc.. not chocolate biscuits.. or donuts.. eating healthy is not a big change people..

so.. after doing all that I am 6' 210.. down from 230... only another 10 to go..

I guess the long and short of this is that unless you have a genetic problem, you don't have an excuse..

minks · Post by **minks** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 3:04 pm

ok you gotta laugh guys I too have a fat problem, my problem is they sit the fatest folks beside me on airplanes.

Yep I go to check in they make a little star by my name when they assign my seat. That star says, "sit fatso beside her, she is skinny and can share her seat"

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 3:10 pm

Come on guys, dont you think you're being a little insensitive?

anastrophe · Post by **anastrophe** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 3:32 pm

fat. boy, what a loaded word (har).

i never thought i'd have to worry about my weight. both my parents were slender, my dad a muscular little greek, my mom a svelte nordic-like gal (a babe by most standards actually). so growing up, i figured, great! good genes. never have to worry about what i eat.

oh, the humanity. or rather, oh, the horror. when i hit my thirties, well what on earth was this shocking development! i'm gaining weight! this is just *not* *right*, and must cease this instant.

oh i wish. i'm 45, and while not obese, i have donned a rather uncomfortable fat suit. when i left high school, i weighed about 165lbs (that's 11.785 stones to you brits in the audience :p , 79.4kg for the rest of ya). i'm now hovering about my peak - 220lbs. (15.71 stones, 99.8kg).

i love food. from lowbrow to the highbrow, i love food. if i'm a good boy and keep the carbs low, i can at least maintain my weight. a good low/no carb diet and i do lose weight - though even then the lowest i've ever been able to get down to was 209lbs - wouldn't budge below that.

i will openly admit that in my youth, when i could eat anything without a care in the world, i had more than my share of disdain for those wretched fatties who clearly had no self-control. what a pathetic lot.

in that respect, i guess i can say i'm 'glad' i gained some weight, because my compassion for 'fat folk' is considerably greater. after breathing, which is free and not harmful unless you like to get dizzy, eating is the second most important biological need we have. and for whatever reason, we are built to get great pleasure from eating, and to store 'the memories' of that pleasure in the pounds all over our bodies.

is it bad for one's health to be obese? you bet. is life fatal, no matter what? you bet.

i've lost track of where i might be going with this, so i'll just place a period at the end of this sentence.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 3:46 pm

I wish everyone had the chance to see an autopsy on a really fat person. I guarantee you would do something about your weight. I have seen an participated in many and it ain't real nice to see all them organs being squished, and the poor little pump that we call a heart that worked so damn hard to keep that lard moving. Two and three inches or more of yellow slimy lookin chicken fat around the middle doesn't make the picture any brighter.

Agnes · Post by **Agnes** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:06 pm

Tinseltoes wrote: Greydeadhead,

Wow! it must be so wonderful being you. How perfect you are, and I bet your S**T doesn't smell either.

it never smelled before, why do you sense something?

Clint · Post by **Clint** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:07 pm

I left the high school football field at 6Ã¢â‚¬â„¢, 185 pounds and went to basic training. Nine weeks later I graduated at 205 pounds. At the end of my enlistment I was 225# and muscular. ItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s 35 years later and IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve added 25 more pounds. I went on a diet once and got down to 215 pounds. People asked me if I was sick and I was weak. I need to lose some weight but after I turned 50 it takes something I havenÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t discovered yet to lose them. I knowÃ¢â‚¬¦more exerciseÃ¢â‚¬¦ but I already walk to the refrigerator to get my own snacks, I never ask anyone to help with that?

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:11 am

Tinseltoes, you should probably put Agnes on your ignore list.

I'm not "worried" about fat people except as regards their high level

of health problems and drain on medical resources/funding. You ask

others to concentrate on themselves, why don't you do the same?

You come across as really unhappy. Might not be the case, but

I'm just letting you know.

And "autopsy guy"s name is Lon. He was relating from experience.

The thread was about fat people, not smokers or people who exercise.

I expect Lon could tell us all about smokers lungs, too. And just so

you know, exercise can in fact BUILD UP cartilage and ligaments AND

strengthen muscles to better support joints. Personally, my knees are

much better than they were even in my early 20's.

It was rather nasty of you to refer to Minks as "skinny girl". Sitting

next to a fat person on a plane is not only uncomfortable, it can

be dangerous. Overweight people should pay for 2 airline seats.

I have an inherited genetic tendency to overweight, and I fight it

like mad. It IS possible to get off your butt and DO something. It

is very, very hard but people need to take some responsibility.

A few months back, there was an M.D. (I believe it might have

been Dateline NBC) who said the exercise to start with was

pushing yourself away from the table.

I'm not perfect, far from it. I can't speak for anyone else but I

don't think they are suggesting that they are perfect, either.

I'm sorry you feel you have to use food as a comfort. But maybe

you should think about doing something about it.

Agnes · Post by **Agnes** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:12 am

T-Toes i gave you a positive way to manage berrys? you seem to draw your own conclusions, you are the one with a negative outlook? Listen to Valerie she knows best really.

pina · Post by **pina** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:44 am

This thread started out as a discussion to get different opinions on fat folks in a light hearted way not for anyone to take it personal and not pointing fingers at particular people.

I so do agree with most of what has been said and it is down to each individual to keep their weight down and to stay healthy.

If there are no medical reason for weight gain then it is only themselves to blame. No matter how hard.

The best suggestion I have heard in a long while is that said previously THE BEST EXCERSISE IS TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE TABLE.

I myself am not fat but might have been if I didn't eat healthy and excersise. most of my family are overweight.

Minks: I hate fat people sitting next to me also. Ha Ha (No offence to anyone)

Agnes · Post by **Agnes** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:30 pm

T-Toes it won't be long the cops will be after you. this is one big fat joke. i'd rather talk about short cake. don't worry be happy, it gets better all the time.

Post by **spot** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:34 pm

Tinseltoes wrote: We have to try and be tolerant of other people, whatever they are like.Right on, Tinseltoes. Agnes is probably old, and who loves old these days?

Mind you, we can't be tolerant of those folks who've been in jail. Or who ought to have gone to jail except some pussyfoot jury let them off the hook. Or people who get arrested, maybe. And maybe anyone who's homeless. I just hate people who haven't made their way in the world and got rich.

The Protestants hate the Catholics, the Catholics hate the Protestants, the Hindus hate the Moslems and everybody hates the Jews!

Agnes · Post by **Agnes** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:41 pm

SPOT, i am not old at all honey. Agnes implies elderly, well i am not. No am not fat and I DON't have a mustache. later. company. luv ya.

Post by **spot** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:44 pm

Agnes wrote: SPOT, i am not old at all honey. Agnes implies elderly, well i am not. No am not fat and I DON't have a mustache. later. company. luv ya.You may not be, Agnes, but I most certainly am. Boy, am I ever old. Ahasuerus has nothing on me.

Agnes · Post by **Agnes** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 1:10 pm

being fat is like a disability to some, as they have problems with seating, amusement rides and mobility. they are people and i have no problem if anyone is heavy, they are people. period.

anastrophe · Post by **anastrophe** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 4:10 pm

spot wrote: You may not be, Agnes, but I most certainly am. Boy, am I ever old. Ahasuerus has nothing on me.
you're only as old as you feel.

by that measure, i'm eleven.

Post by **spot** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 4:20 pm

flopstock wrote: How about all of you skinny twits just share one seat in back and leave the rest of the seats to us normal folks! (just teasing of course!) :rolleyes:I just had this wild vision of a circling pilot desperately trying to break his plane out into straight flight, with all the Fairies sitting in the outside aisle and all the Vogons sitting in the inside.

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 5:09 pm

Okay, I'm going to try again, because I think it's important.

I AM NOT SKINNY, OKAY? I may be a reasonable weight, but remember,

muscle weighs more than fat. I've always wanted to go to the "Guess

Your Weight" guy at the State Fair 'cause he'd probably be off by

40 pounds or so. I love being strong, and capable. I do have my fat

stores, though. My body thinks it's going to get me through the next

famine. If we had one, it would be doing a good job!

Tinseltoes, really glad you're happy... but I do think you're kidding

yourself. How could I possibly know anything really about you though

just over a forum like this? I don't think maybe you've been around

enough for me to "know" you. But I would like to. Saying I am nothing

to you is really hurtful. Don't care how you respond to that, I just

feel the need to say it. I truly would like you to take better care of

yourself, if only to stay around and argue here with me a lot longer!

Do you have kids? Grandkids? Don't you want to live as long as possible

to see as much of their lives as you can? Set a good eating example for

them? You said you eat when you're happy, eat when you're sad, use

food as a comfort, that is all what you are passing on. Food should be

enjoyed, true, but it's FUEL.

And I for one do NOT think this is by any stretch a light-hearted debate.

Fat is a serious killer, and that's not funny.

Flopstock, I'll eat an entire Twinkie, got one? I drink diet sodas, and

occasionally will have even a regular one. I like food very much and my

self-esteem is very, very good. I am an attractive 52 year old with

curves in all the right places who doesn't look her age and will put

her bone density test results, her cholesterol levels, and her blood

pressure up against anybody. Actually, I think there is someone on the

board with even better cholesterol level than mine, but you know what

I mean. Couple years back, I won an arm wrestling contest against a

woman NINETEEN years my junior. Had to use left arms, I had

GIVEN BLOOD out of my right one earlier that day.

And as to the whole sitting on the plane thing, it IS very dangerous.

Very overweight people just can not MOVE and could potentially

block someone in and prevent their escape from a crashed aircraft.

More dangerous for the overweight person, too, because rescue

people have a much harder job transporting them if they need to.

Far Rider, you are very, very sweet. Your wife is lucky.

pina · Post by **pina** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 5:43 pm

I am really SORRY if I offended anyone with some of the comments I made earlier but I wasn't making any digs at anyone on this site I was talking in general.

I have no problems with fat folks.

Oh and I am not skinny either, I weigh in at 61k. and stand at 5' 4" .

When I said that I ate healthy that is not a diet, I can eat a lot and never have any diet or lo-cal drinks or food. Never go to the gym only walk a lot and swim.

The light hearted thing was because I laughed at quite a few comments that were made and still am.

Agnes · Post by **Agnes** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:33 am

flopstock wrote: Listen here 'Olive Oyl ' and all you other scrawny assed, tweety bird legged creatures. ...speaking as someone who could cushion the stop of a semi that had lost its breaks-with my gut, why don't you just take a good look at yourself instead of the fat people of the world.

Any 'alleged ' adult who won't eat an entire twinkie or passes on a diet soda and sticks to water has serious self esteem problems. I think you are all trying to diet and exercise them away. I suggest you try being happy and enjoy yourself, and eatting once in a while to take off some of that critical edge.

You are the ones starving your bodies demand for food. Not us. You are the ones out of sync with your bodies. For what exactly? I see just as many fat old people as I do anorexic ones. And it's you puny women that walk around at 65 like you're looking for lost change on the floor, because your bone structure is shot.

And don't feel bad for the totally assinine feelings on having to 'SIT' next to one of us. We're not real crazy about sitting next to you either. How about all of you skinny twits just share one seat in back and leave the rest of the seats to us normal folks! (just teasing of course!) :rolleyes:

its about time you let lose. yes i'm munching on doritios and drinking coke this morning?

Agnes · Post by **Agnes** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:34 am

flopstock wrote: Listen here 'Olive Oyl ' and all you other scrawny assed, tweety bird legged creatures. ...speaking as someone who could cushion the stop of a semi that had lost its breaks-with my gut, why don't you just take a good look at yourself instead of the fat people of the world.

Any 'alleged ' adult who won't eat an entire twinkie or passes on a diet soda and sticks to water has serious self esteem problems. I think you are all trying to diet and exercise them away. I suggest you try being happy and enjoy yourself, and eatting once in a while to take off some of that critical edge.

You are the ones starving your bodies demand for food. Not us. You are the ones out of sync with your bodies. For what exactly? I see just as many fat old people as I do anorexic ones. And it's you puny women that walk around at 65 like you're looking for lost change on the floor, because your bone structure is shot.

And don't feel bad for the totally assinine feelings on having to 'SIT' next to one of us. We're not real crazy about sitting next to you either. How about all of you skinny twits just share one seat in back and leave the rest of the seats to us normal folks! (just teasing of course!) :rolleyes:

its about time you let loose. yes i'm munching on doritios and drinking coke this morning?

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:48 am

FAR RIDER,

You a both very lucky to have each other, what a great couple your are.

Weight is a killer that has been proven over and over again. It can lead to High Blood Pressure, Diabetes, Heart Disease and the list gets longer. The other side to the equation is GENETICS you are your family, as you age it becomes more apparent each day.

Far Rider and his wife are great example of that. He is fit, runs, eats well, but has High blood pressure (my guess it runs in his family.) His lovely bride of 18 years is short, over weight for her height, but exibits non of the danger signs of that extra weight. Once again my guess is her family are short stocky healthy people.

It's being obese that can take your life period. I know that we all can't be skinny, heck I have packed on some pound lately that are pissing me off.. But it's my own fault I have gained weight.

Stastics show that maintaining your weight will add year to your life.. that doesn't mean you have to be rail thin. Your body know its mean point, and if possible 5 or 10 pounds won't hurt you.

EVERY THING IN MODERATION AND YOU WILL BE FIT FOR LIFE.. !!

Peg · Post by **Peg** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:04 pm

I believe whether fat or thin, when it's your time, it's your time. If you are going to die at 60, you will die at 60 either way, but you can choose the quality of those 60 years. I smoke, I know I'm taking risks, don't need anyone to point that out.

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:25 pm

Far Rider wrote: I have this theory... when we are bron our hearts are limited to so many beats in our lifetime right , it wears out doesn't it?

So if I exercise and speed up my heart rate... all I'm doing is using up the total number of beats I have, right? So shouldn't it be better not to run everyday thereby reducing the number of beats per day? Wouldn't I live longer?

hahahaha :wah:

I agree :wah:

BTS · Post by **BTS** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:46 pm

Far Rider wrote: hahaha OMG this thread is halarious!

OK a little back ground here, I'm a hair under six foot tall, I weigh exactly the same as the day I graduated Highschool, 200 even. I'm 39. I met my lovely wife when we were both 14 years old. She was a thin little dark haired beauty with a fire in her eyes that could turn any young boys world upside down. And believe me I fought a number of fellas off to win her hand. We will have been married 18 years on our next anniversary with in a few days.

She, to me, is as beautiful as the day I fell in love with her. Today she is 5 foot nothin and weighs around 170- 180 pounds. She can out run my boys, out ski them, out swim them and wrestle them to the ground if needs be. She was told by a doctor that she is 'fat'... lets just say that particular doctor will think twice before he is so insensitive to another woman about weight! hahahaha Did I tell you she was fiesty!

I love her the way she is. One day she asked me if I wanted her to loose weight. Now I know a trick question when I hear one! No way was I gonna say yes to that one. But when I thought it through, no was the truthful answer and I told her so.

I'm proud to hold her hand in public, she's mine, all mine and she makes sure in public the ladies know I'm hers.

If you call my wife fat to her face watch her left hook, make sure you drop back and bob a little, weave out and keep your feet moving, if she follows with the right you're goin down!

hahaha!Far.............

I just started reading this thread..........and even befoe I read them all I want to make a prediction...... You will be married to your wife forever.........

That is REAL love at its best......... You go boy...

Thanx for sharing

pina · Post by **pina** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:49 pm

flopstock wrote: Seriously pina it really doesn't bother me at all, that's why I posted. A lot of overweight folks get all upset and defensive and hurt feelings, but I don't. So it was a lot easier for me to poke fun at you skinny runts then it would be for someone who does takes it personally. Even us fat people need to see a post now and then where we can think to ourselves 'yeah, you tell'em sister'..I was just doing my part for the cause..lol

If there is one thing I've learned in here, it's that most everyone is genuinely careing, and towards that end they are honest with you. We can get the 'oh you look fine to me' response from the folks around us, it's easier for them. It's harder to say something they might not want to hear. That's what i respect about the folks in here. So, I never take anything personally unless it is a direct 'diane you fat pig you!'..lol, and the other folks in here would, no doubt about it, defend me faster then I could myself.. :-6

Thanks for telling me, with being fairly new and not knowing anyone really well yet I was a bit worried about upsetting anyone with my opinions.

Sometimes I get taken the wrong way with my weird sense of humour that comes across quite serious sometimes. ( great for telling jokes):yh_peace

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:55 pm

pina wrote: Thanks for telling me, with being fairly new and not knowing anyone really well yet I was a bit worried about upsetting anyone with my opinions.

Sometimes I get taken the wrong way with my weird sense of humour that comes across quite serious sometimes. ( great for telling jokes):yh_peace

Then we have the same humor - don't worry - the light blue smiley on the bottom right means sarcastic.

pina · Post by **pina** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:02 pm

nvalleyvee wrote: Then we have the same humor - don't worry - the light blue smiley on the bottom right means sarcastic.

THANKS......did say I was new to this and not used to the smileys yet.

hope I havn't been putting the wrong ones in.

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:18 pm

Pina - it took me several apologies for people to know I have a very dry sense of humor - if you can't see someone smile it's hard to know they are joking. I understand though I see sly humor in most everything. If you can't laugh - you're DOOMED!

pina · Post by **pina** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:24 pm

Thanks again.....

I was laughing but didn't think others were. Oh I cant find that smiley what name does it have.