Lilith

[Sheryl]

I wanted to start a thread to just discuss her. She appears in Islam, Christianity (referred to as a screech owl in Isaiah) and Judaism.

This site explains the Judaism theories well.

Has anyone else heard of her, besides in the Romans thread?

[Snooze]

Yeah, she was married to Frasier.



Seriously, I have heard of her before as some kind of demon but that's about all I know. There have been some very lovely, very provocative paintings done with her as the painter's inspiration.

[Sheryl]

I first heard bout her on one of those religious history programs on the discovery channel, then seems like she kept popping up everywhere. I just find it intriguing that she shows up in so many religions.

[WonderWendy3]

No, I've never heard of her other than Fraizer's wife....:wah:

[Sheryl]

who the hell is Frasier??

[Snooze]

Sheryl;748130 wrote: who the hell is Frasier??


:wah: That really cracked me up!

It's a TV show with Kelsey Grammer.... Frasier was also a recurring character on Cheers.

[WonderWendy3]

This is a good video of Lilith on Will and Grace.....

[Sheryl]

ahh ok..see you learn something new everyday. I never watched the show or Cheers.

[Sheryl]

fuzzy butt;748148 wrote: isn't there a similar woman in celtic legend?


I'm not sure..

[guppy]

I have never heard thestory of lillith being adam's first wife either till today...that threw me for a loop....

[Ted]

Lilith=myth.

Shalom

Ted:-6

[WonderWendy3]

Ted;752562 wrote: Lilith=myth.

Shalom

Ted:-6


I thought of this last night....I read Genesis and I can't see where Lilith is true, God created Eve from Adam....he didn't create another woman before Eve.

[Sheryl]

Genesis 1:26-28

26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

27 So God created man in his own image,

in the image of God he created him;

male and female he created them.

28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."


Genesis 2:15-23

15 The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die."

18 The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him."

19 Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field.

But for Adam [h] no suitable helper was found. 21 So the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man's ribs and closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib [j] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.

23 The man said,

"This is now bone of my bones

and flesh of my flesh;

she shall be called 'woman, [k] '

for she was taken out of man."


In Chapter one he created man and women, it's not till Chapter 2 that Eve is created. I think that is where the myth of Lilith comes in.

New International Version quoted.

[Ted]

The creation story itself is a myth. The question to be asked is "What does it mean?"

Shalom

Ted:-6

[theia]

Ted;752615 wrote: The creation story itself is a myth. The question to be asked is "What does it mean?"

Shalom

Ted:-6


Is it perhaps that everything is a myth and that each person chooses the myth s/he will live by? And if this were so, then no individual story, or myth, would be more true, or false, than another? And maybe, the question, "What does it mean?" is a question for each to ask her/himself?

[Ted]

theia:-6

Some interesting thoughts. I must think on them.

Shalom

Ted:-6

[YZGI]

Pinky;753016 wrote: Yup. I've heard of her and there is a similar lady in Celtic mythology. When you look into all the myths of the world, some of them aren't that far removed.



Apparently, Lilith was the first wife of Adam but refused to sleep with him, so was cast off as evil (or something negative anyway.) I think this has been edited out of the bible that exists today, as so much has been that wasn't deemed suitable.



Celtic Mythology refers to Blodeuedd (Blod-u-eth) as being created from flowers to become the wife of Lugh, (or Llew Llaw Gyffes in the Mabinogion) who was cursed never to marry a mortal woman. She later betrayed him with Grawn or Goronwy, with whom she fell in love. The only way to kill Llew however, (the only way to obtain her freedom)was to pierce him with a spear whilst he was standing with one leg on a cauldron and the other on a goat. Somehow she persuaded him to show her exactly how he could be slain, unbeknown to him, grawn was waiting with a spear.



However, the unlucky Llew transformed into an eagle and was later revived, while the unfortunate and unfaithful Blodeuedd was cursed to spend life as an owl.
So if my wife asks me to put one foot on a goat and the other foot on a caulron, I should be worried?:D

[mikeinie]

WonderWendy3;752580 wrote: I thought of this last night....I read Genesis and I can't see where Lilith is true, God created Eve from Adam....he didn't create another woman before Eve.


No, but often the mistresses never make the history books. Maybe Lilith was Adam’s little fling on the side.

Ya that’s it, now we are getting to the real reason they were all kicked out of the garden of Eden¦

[WonderWendy3]

mikeinie;753238 wrote: No, but often the mistresses never make the history books. Maybe Lilith was Adam’s little fling on the side.

Ya that’s it, now we are getting to the real reason they were all kicked out of the garden of Eden¦


No, that clearly was ALL EVE.....she and that serpent!!:rolleyes:

[mikeinie]

Snooze;748141 wrote: :wah: That really cracked me up!

It's a TV show with Kelsey Grammer.... Frasier was also a recurring character on Cheers.


Here is an example: get ready to laugh:

[Daniyal]

Tablet One

The Formation Of Kadmon , Zakar ,

Adam And Nekaybaw , Eve , Hawwah

( 19 x 3 = 57 )



Lo ! En Ruler '' of the Qi '' Earth '' Enqi commanded the Anunnaqi Nusqu , who bore the title , Geb - Ra - El , Jibrail , Gabriy ' El , to form the body of Kadmon who was taken from the dust of the ground , Adama Project created of clay black mud , blood clot cell and fashioned into shape and cloned . Being the nud was of the Earth , he was called Adam , which means Adamah , '' the ground '' This is speaking of his physical creation , and making . Being there is already like in the soil of the ground , it wasn't the creation of life itself . The mud and clay is symbolic of the contents of blood or the clot . Dehydrated blood turns into brown dust particles , and this is how the hematologist would tranaport blood to be re-activated by simply mixing the water together for life , thus you have man being created of dust water , or earth and water becomes mud , '' the clot '' The extracts from that clot or blood is necessary for the cloning process .

2 . With this procedure , the Anunnaqi Nusqu proceeded on wings of haste from his dwelling place in Orion traversing the constellations of the skies and elemental orbs .

3 .Upon arriving on the surface of the planet Earth then called Terra , Tiwawat , Ta - Mara .

4 . Nusqu went to the rulers of the Anumite and Cuthite tribes by the far 2 rivers , the Idiglat , Tigris , and Furrattu Euphrate , where he was living with the fallen Anunnaqi , known as the Luciferian , or Wehans ,

5 . To ask their King Atum and Queen Littith , if they would let them breed a seed from them .

6 . Mother Earth , as she Lillith was called , refused .

7 . Nusqu stretched his his hand to execute the command he had received from Enqi , the ruler of the Earth .

8 . This fearful attempt moved the vapors imprisoned in the bowels of the planet Earth ,

9 .And it caused a terrible Earthquake and strife between the Elders , and the seed of Atum , father of Kadmon .

10 . The soil inquired of this Anunnaqi the Angelic being Gabriy 'El who replied .

11 . 'El Eloh , one of the Aluhum , the Sustainer of glory , intended to create a primitive worker from you ,

12 . To dignify his head with the Diadem , the crown or royal headband of successorship , El Najuyuf or khalifaship , to rule Qi in Enqi's place ,

13 . And to adorn has stature with nobility .

14 . The Earth Atumites enjoined ;

15 . I have refuge with El from you ;

16 . I adjure you by El Rabb , the Sustainer .

17 . To desist from this purpose ,

18 . Lest he create of me an individual who would , like the sons of the disagreeable beings .

19 . Attempt the stratagrems of disobedielience .

20 . And would conseqntly be punished and condemned .

( King Atum , Father Of Kadmon , Zakar , Adam / Queen Lillith , Mother Of Kadmon , Zakar , Adam

21 . I have not the power to resist the wrath of El Eloh .

22 . The punishment of Anu , A'lyun A'lyun El , The Most High Ruler , ''

23 . The Anunnaqi Gabriy'El heard the entreaties of the Earth people , Atumites , the Cuthites , and he sympathized with their helplessness .

24 . And returned by the same way he descended .

25 . And laid his information before El Rabb Of glory .

26 . By permission of the Creator of mortal beings .

27 . The Anunnaqi Miyka'El , son of Enqi and Damkina , likewise returned .

28 . He also descended upon the planet Earth .

29 . The same conversation took place between him and the planet Earth people as with Gabriy'El son of Rasi 'El And Zamma'El .

30 . The Anunnaqi Miyka'El , likewise returned .

31 . Then the Anunnaqi Enqi , son of Anu and Id , who bore the title Izraa 'El , was on the same errand .

32 . The planer Earth people King Atum of the Cuthites , again implored and began to lament and to cry .

33 . Enqi said ; '' It is more incumbent upon me to obey the nourisher than to take pity on you .

34 . Accordingly , he collected a handful of black mud , and blood cells , and he fashioned ( cloned ) the Adam that was acting one the part of the Sustainer and Creator himself .

35 . Then the Rabbiyuwna or the elders , now moved the disagreeable mortals Atum and his wife Lillith , into the city Salaam in Qodesh from the Idiglat . Tigris and Furrattu , Euphrates valley to breed a son .

36 . Also the agreeable mortals , Ptah and his wife Anath , were taken from the White and Blue Nile to Nippur , which is one of the cities in Qodesh , and this was for the purpose to breed a daughter . They were placed in different places , so they , Kadmon and Kekaybaw wouldn't know each other , until they are at the right age . 21 for him and 18 for her .

37 . After the birth of a daughter of mixed seed , for her seed or blood was from Kadmon's own marrow , bone of his bone , flesh of his flesh , and they called her Kekaybaw , who was also mixed with the Kishite from Ptah , and Hawilahite , from Anath , who were her parents . The actual genetic breeding , and splicing of the cells of Kadmon begin and was done in a laboratory on the planet Lahmu , in the laboratory Shimti . Thus , it is said , Kadmon was created in the heavens before the earth . How was this great task undertaken ? . When the scientist took the seed of Ninti , and bred her with Adiuru , the Homo -Shapien , the 16th seed of the Adama Prophet , after taking Genus Homo to Homo Erectus , to Homo - Sapien . The Homo -Shapien was mixed with the seed of the Anunnaqis , This was the process . When this new seed of Ninti and Adiuru was ready for the transport from the heavens to the Qi = earth , it was brought down to the planet Earth and this Gene , or cell was genetically spliced into the DNA of Atum , the ruler of the Atumites , and also into the DNA of Ptah , the ruler of the Kishites . In time Ptah gave birth to the daughter called Nekaybaw , meaning tribal leader '' , and before that Atum gave birth to the son called Kadmon , meaning '' up front '' . How was this great task undertaken ? While Kadmon was yet , a baby of 2 years of age , before the very birth of Nekaybaw , the chemists Anunnaqi , Nergal and Arishkegal had perfected the gene of Kadmon to make his offspring , bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh . So he was put into a deep sleep state . and the chemists went into the marrow of his bone , and they extracted a cell from his blood to create his counterpart Nekaybaw . These newly formed beings were to be place in a habitat , called an enclosed garden , one of the many , and as a certain age , to be watched and groomed . And you should always remember the birth of our mother Nekaybaw , for she is the mother of mothers and her birthday shall be celebrate on the moth of May , the tenth day .

38 . At age 21 Kadmon was moved without clothes to the Enclosed Garden called Eden Located in Baali .

39 . At the age 18 Nekaybaw was moved into the same Enclosed Garden and she also was without clothes or Shame .

40 . Comprised of diffrent colors and properties from the surface of the planet Earth ,

41 . And having mixed all parts together the birth of Kadmon , called the ground Adamah .

42 . It was formed as a black olive as black as the shadow hour in the skin tone of the original Asiatic black man , the Hindu , yet with a reddish skin color , thus the name Adam or Edum red and ruddy .

43 . When Enqi , the Aluhum Izraa'El arrived in the glorious place the Anunnaqi , Aluhum , he asked him whether the planet Earth people had . this time , taken refuge with himself or not .

44 . Enqi replied

45 . ''Yes ''

46 . El Rabb said .

47 . '' If it took refuge with me from you , why did you not spare it ?

48 . Enqi replied .

49 . I deemed obedlience to you more necessary than pity for it '' .

50 . Anu , A'lyun A'lyun El , The Most High The Highest continued ;

51 . Depart , for I have made you Anunnaqi of death , in an ether form for all times .

52 . I have placed the taking of the soul of Kadmon , And his seed into your power .

53 . At these words , The Anunnaqi Izraa El . began to weep , saying ;

54 . 'Amongst the children of Kadmon , called the Adamites and Enosites , there will be Newsbearers who will undoubtedly hate me on this account .

55 . However , Anu , A'lyun A'lyun El rejoined ; I shall send sp many complaints and diseases upon the Adamites , they will not hate you and none of their deeds will be cause of grief to you at all ,

56 . For this loud lamentation is forbidden , but there is no harm in weeping for the dead yet patience is better .

57 . It is a curse upon the people who wail and those around them who listen to them .



The Holy Tablet

By Dr . Malachi Z . York