Why wasn't OJ tried?

drumbunny1 · Post by **drumbunny1** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:53 am

Okay so this isn't REALLY a "current event" but I didn't know where else to put it...I was just reading on the OJ Simpson trial...I've read it before...I watched it...just like the rest of the country...and the man was obivously guilty...but he was aquitted...does anyone have any idea as to why he wasn't charged with a different crime like manslaughter...or 2nd degree murder? YOu can't be tried for the same crime twice...but don't you think someone would have tried him again!!!Then maybe he wouldn't have gotten away with it!:-2

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:53 am

Im only a mad scientist but I dont think you can throw another charge out if the 1st one doesnt stick. The prosecuter has to pick his poison.

weeder · Post by **weeder** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:53 am

drumbunny1;715405 wrote: Okay so this isn't REALLY a "current event" but I didn't know where else to put it...I was just reading on the OJ Simpson trial...I've read it before...I watched it...just like the rest of the country...and the man was obivously guilty...but he was aquitted...does anyone have any idea as to why he wasn't charged with a different crime like manslaughter...or 2nd degree murder? YOu can't be tried for the same crime twice...but don't you think someone would have tried him again!!!Then maybe he wouldn't have gotten away with it!:-2

He got away with it for three reasons.

Firstly, with unlimited funds he was able to guarantee a small fortune to attorneys,

Secondly, because we are a society so obsessed with celebritys that we will let them get away with anything, even murder.

The third and most horrifying reason is that deep inside their is a huge population of people who condemned his wife for marrying a black man. And felt she got what she deserved.

Greed, lack of value for human life, idolatry, and vengence are the reasons that pig walks free. Im just surprised that someone in her family didnt see to it that he was taken care of.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:01 am

weeder;715421 wrote: He got away with it for three reasons.

Firstly, with unlimited funds he was able to guarantee a small fortune to attorneys,

Secondly, because we are a society so obsessed with celebritys that we will let them get away with anything, even murder.

The third and most horrifying reason is that deep inside their is a huge population of people who condemned his wife for marrying a black man. And felt she got what she deserved.

Greed, lack of value for human life, idolatry, and vengence are the reasons that pig walks free. Im just surprised that someone in her family didnt see to it that he was taken care of.

No doubt there are some that feel this way but I cant believe the numbers exceed anything more than a very small minority. I wont believe it. Ive never even heard this thought expressed before.

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:34 am

Once again, I agree with Weeder 100%, I'm with Nomad on the statement he highlighted, I've never heard that....but it is understandable.

Well, If it were up to some of the FG members, he'd be locked up......

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chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:31 am

You cannot charge a person twice for the same crime, he was found not guilty by jury trial. That is what the civil suit was for, to establish 50%+ proof that he was guilty, and ask for monetary retribution.

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:56 am

The Prosecution team thought they had him nailed so they didn't go for a lessor charges. They whet for 1st degree murder. that was the downfall right there. He probably would have been found guilty of lessor charges. They truly didn't get the star quality of OJ period.

No you can't be tried for the same crime twice in the US double Jeporady. That is why his current arrest in the Vegas case might actually see the bastard do some time, all be it not for murder but he could see 5 to 10 years behind bars.

I also heard the theory here in California where the case happened that the black community condemned his wife for marrying a black man. And felt she got what she deserved. Very sad but true heard it many times. Nicole Brown Simpson was considered to be nothing in the Black communities eyes, especially with the Women. OJ was a big handsome famous Black man with lots of money you figure it out.

Believe me every time I see his face I want him dead, it will happen in time.

mikeinie · Post by **mikeinie** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:01 am

[QUOTE=CARLA;715491]The Prosecution team thought they had him nailed so they didn't go for a lessor charges. They whet for 1st degree murder. that was the downfall right there. He probably would have been found guilty of lessor charges. They truly didn't get the star quality of OJ period.

Carla is right on there. It was early days for genetic evidence, I don't think people fully understood it all then, if they didn't go for 1st degree he would still be in jail.

I don't know about the black married to white stuff though, I never heard that before.

LilacDragon · Post by **LilacDragon** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:10 am

As a white woman who was married to a black man when Nicole was married to OJ - I can tell you there is or was PLENTY of prejudiuce out there. Most of it within the black community.

As for why OJ got away with it - it really is rather simple. He was a rich celebrity. It certainly isn't a hidden fact that there is a different set of laws for celebrities and "regular" people.

weeder · Post by **weeder** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:20 am

During the trial, there was much written about the negative feelings of black women towards Nicole. Comments like arent we good enough? Were common.

In this vein... I expressley remember it being said that she did bring the incident upon herself. They also attempted to portray her as a woman with loose morals to further justify the incident. The poor boyfriend who sadly happened to be in the wrong place, at the wrong time, was talked about as though it were the most unnatural thing in the world for him to be seeing her.

A mess. The whole thing. A disgrace, a mess, and a very poor commentery on our legal system.

freetobeme · Post by **freetobeme** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:34 am

OJ got away with it because they played the race card, not to mention the prosecution screwed up with the glove business (and more).

The judge was an idiot, there was evidence of jury tampering, http://www.cnn.com/US/9604/01/simpson_juror/index.html etc. etc.

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trashcanman · Post by **trashcanman** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:53 am

His lawyers were smart and used the " Chewbaca Defense".

If your not familiar with this defense google south park/ chewbaca defense and all will become clear. :wah:

History buff · Post by **History buff** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:45 am

drumbunny1;715405 wrote: Okay so this isn't REALLY a "current event" but I didn't know where else to put it...I was just reading on the OJ Simpson trial...I've read it before...I watched it...just like the rest of the country...and the man was obivously guilty...but he was aquitted...does anyone have any idea as to why he wasn't charged with a different crime like manslaughter...or 2nd degree murder? YOu can't be tried for the same crime twice...but don't you think someone would have tried him again!!!Then maybe he wouldn't have gotten away with it!:-2

I am inclined to agree with the others about lessor included offenses.

As a side note, seperate trials for two distinct offenses, such as murder and kidnapping during the same crime, do not necessarily violate the DJ clause of the 5th AM, but such seperation is not common and most states probably prohibit it. IOW, a prosecution can be commenced for Murder, and then kidnapping, 2 trials.

Say OJ was found later through newly discovered evidence to have "conspired" to have committed the murders, then the federal constitution permits a trial for conspiracy, even after an aquittal for a solitary murder charge. State constitutions may forbid it though??

If evidence came to light say OJ conspired/planned in another state to murder and committed it in CA, then it is possible another state could charge murder, since it was planned in that state, or the feds can possibly(?) charge murder. The individual states and the federal government are "seperate sovereigns" for double jeopardy purposes.

Federal jurisdiction for murder must be established first, interstate travel, mail etc. or muder on federal property and so on.

freetobeme · Post by **freetobeme** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 6:06 pm

Actually everyone is pussyfooting around the real reason OJ was acquitted. O.J. could have been caught in the act, covered in blood with umpteen witnesses and that jury would have voted to acquit. He was acquitted by that jury for the same reasons a white southern jury acquitted Emmit Till. (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/till/ )

Not ot mention that had the jury convicted OJ, there would have been race riots.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:02 pm

freetobeme;745605 wrote: Actually everyone is pussyfooting around the real reason OJ was acquitted. O.J. could have been caught in the act, covered in blood with umpteen witnesses and that jury would have voted to acquit. He was acquitted by that jury for the same reasons a white southern jury acquitted Emmit Till. (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/till/ )

Not ot mention that had the jury convicted OJ, there would have been race riots.

I can't disagree with this. I still think his "star quality" had a lot to do with it, but that celebrity coupled with the fact he's black sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:42 pm

RedGlitter;745620 wrote: I can't disagree with this. I still think his "star quality" had a lot to do with it, but that celebrity coupled with the fact he's black sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.

Ill give you a recipe for disaster.

Forget to add the eggs in the cake mix.

You dont know what disaster is !

pantsonfire321@aol.com · Mon Dec 24, 2007 4:12 am

[QUOTE=freetobeme;745605]Actually everyone is pussyfooting around the real reason OJ was acquitted. O.J. could have been caught in the act, covered in blood with umpteen witnesses and that jury would have voted to acquit. He was acquitted by that jury for the same reasons a white southern jury acquitted Emmit Till. (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/till/ )

Not ot mention that had the jury convicted OJ, there would have been race riots.[/QUOTE]

Oh yes, i could see that happening ...for sure .:-5:-5