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AussiePam;731692 wrote: I haven't read all the thread but I agree with that. Mods get privileges and responsibility and I don't see how these can be switched off. It's a bit like being a prefect at school. You're selected, presumably because God thinks you're good blokes/blokesses and worthy leaders, and if you accept you are always a prefect, even when you're not officially on duty. So there's no such thing as ever again being quite like the unselect, unwashed masses who don't get to go in the Prefects Study where the chosen ones get coffee, toast, possibly marshmallows and the key to the executive washroom.

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Tombstone!

I need to speak to you about a few of these perks we are all supposed to get. Where are you hiding them?


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theia;730777 wrote: Abbey, I think I'm right in saying you were a moderator the first time around, when I joined, in about May 2005? You were one of the first people to pm me and one of the first people I got to know. And, like you say, those that know you would laugh at the idea that you were anything but fair. You were lovely then and still are :-6


Ditto from me too! We :-4 you Abbey and would like to see you posting more!





I initially joined here in 2004, being aware of the moderation stuff that was going on back then, I'd just like to say that I much prefer they way things are now.



The mods are doing a great job, I've reported the odd post here and there where people have got personal and as far as I am aware the situtaions have been dealt with.

Self moderation needs to applied here too, if you are in a bad mood with something/someone else in real life don't come on here and start abusing people here, in my opinion that seems to happen a lot around here. I've felt myself getting wound up by things going on in here and have been aware of the fact that I may be feeling annoyed by something/someone in real life. I remind myself to walk away, don't get involved. It's surprising how a few hours later you can read posts in a completely different light!
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Betty Boop;731733 wrote: Ditto from me too! We :-4 you Abbey and would like to see you posting more!





I initially joined here in 2004, being aware of the moderation stuff that was going on back then, I'd just like to say that I much prefer they way things are now.



The mods are doing a great job, I've reported the odd post here and there where people have got personal and as far as I am aware the situtaions have been dealt with.

Self moderation needs to applied here too, if you are in a bad mood with something/someone else in real life don't come on here and start abusing people here, in my opinion that seems to happen a lot around here. I've felt myself getting wound up by things going on in here and have been aware of the fact that I may be feeling annoyed by something/someone in real life. I remind myself to walk away, don't get involved. It's surprising how a few hours later you can read posts in a completely different light!




Well said Boops:yh_clap , the voice of reason..............you feeling ok? :wah::wah:
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SuzyB;731735 wrote: Well said Boops:yh_clap , the voice of reason..............you feeling ok? :wah::wah:


:wah: Yeah the happy pills run out in an hour ;)



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I'm beginning to think there's something wrong with me. I've never reported a post. Of course being blonde I never could find the panic button anyway. BUT I did stumble over the key to the Executive Loo* (now stashed down me cleavage) - and the marshmallow cabinet*. And I'm not even a prefect!! So there!!

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Deeep Thought: If you're not a Mod, does this make you a Rocker? Hey, we plebs really ROCK!

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grh;731131 wrote: I don't need the answers to your questions and I think it is fair to say I was and am pretty vocal in my opinion of the need for mods.

Companies I go into every day for groceries, gas, cigs, whatever - occasionally ban other customers from the premises. It is none of my business who, how many or why. Whether I know those other customers or not. Whether I know management or not.

I have two options - quit giving them my business because they made that decision without consulting me or live my life the same way I always do and leave them to run their business.

Don't confuse the fact that this is an 'on-line community' with this being 'the peoples' community. This is a business(sure hope he doesn't support his family on the proceeds:D). We all have the same two options.

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I never knew the complete list of moderators either but it never mattered to me because we're a close group and it's kind of all the one to me whoever here has or would have that position. :-6
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Hi All!

There are perks galore being a mod! :thinking:

Actually, it can be a pretty thankless job - and more often than not - you walk around with a target on your back.

That being said, I'm thinking about moving forward with a suggestion made by one of the moderators: Rotating the moderators.

It's a fair way to have others participate and experience the quandries that can only be felt by a moderator. :D
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jimbo;731799 wrote: ummmm

i work for myself and i'm a nice guy if someone worked for me and was being rude or unfair to my customers ... which are my business i would not be too happy about it





i think tombie comes across as a thou rely decent fellow i can only assume he would feel the same way too :-6:-6





i mean in the highly unlikely event this was to ever happen :D:D


and what exactly does this have to do with the price of tea in china?:wah:

are you saying you'd have a bulletin board up with all your customer and employee infractions to be seen by anyone who felt they were entitled to know other peoples business? i don't think so...:rolleyes:
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Tombstone;731836 wrote: Hi All!

There are perks galore being a mod! :thinking:

Actually, it can be a pretty thankless job - and more often than not - you walk around with a target on your back.

That being said, I'm thinking about moving forward with a suggestion made by one of the moderators: Rotating the moderators.

It's a fair way to have others participate and experience the quandries that can only be felt by a moderator. :D


Include me out please and there's an extra $5 in it for you at renewal time:p:wah:
Who are they to protest me? Who are they? Unless they've been me and been there and know what the hell they're yelling about!

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grh;731869 wrote: Include me out please and there's an extra $5 in it for you at renewal time:p:wah:


me too! I don't *do* responsibility.....:o :D :o
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It seems to me that the moderators on this forum are managing very well under very trying circumstances. I would like to know if those of you who have complaints about the moderators, would be prepared, or even able, to be a moderator yourself ? They are all volunteers, and I believe they undertake to do this fairly demanding 'job', in order to keep this forum a happy and sociable forum, as well as a forum for sensible and even deep debating on a very wide spectrum of subjects. It appears that whatever subject you care to think about, there is almost bound to be a thread for that subject. The moderators have to check through all these threads to make sure that people do not overstep the mark of decency, courtesy, copyright etc. and that must take up a lot of their time. Some of you say there is no need for moderators on this forum, and I say there is need for moderators on any and all forums. We are human and sometimes we can get quite 'wound up' and agitated by remarks and opinions passed by others on the threads.

The moderators say they discuss any complaints and investigate them thoroughly, and I am sure that this is what they do. They also say that any complaints against themselves are discussed thoroughly and also there are routes that complainants can take if they would rather by-pass the moderators. I certainly believe that the management of Forum Garden are doing the best possible job they can, in the fairest way they can.

Some while ago I was unfortunate enough to be a member of a site where there were no such things as moderators. The only way you could complain about anything was a tab at the bottom of the page, and if you were lucky you received an electronic confirmation of receipt that 'your communication was being dealt with'. That was usually the last you heard about it ! If it was a complaint about inappropriate language, or content, then that particular post was deleted. People were 'banned' for no good reason, and this only created at best , sarcasm, and at worst viscious verbal retaliation against the site management and the suspected complainant (which more often than not was totally incorrect). Then of course that poor (mostly innocent) person was hounded, insulted, threatened, bullied until they were driven off that site.

I personally had my identity stolen by somebody on that site, for reasons best known to themselves, and they used my name, profile etc and caused mischief on the threads and in the chat rooms in my name. I tried so many times to get the management to delete the imposter and so get my proper site name back, but to no avail. The management seemed incapable of deducing that the later membership number would be the imposter, and so delete it. Or they just could not be bothered to do anything about it. So I deleted myself, and a friend introduced me to this lovely forum.

If you really want to degenerate into that sort of forum then vote for not having moderators. It is no good you saying ' but we are not like that - that would not happen here - we do not need moderators' and I would say to you, but we are all human beings, with human moods, we laugh, we cry, we get angry. I believe it works very well, having moderators. They are not 'in your face', they enjoy what we all enjoy on here. They join in with everybody, and I am sure the vast majority of us enjoy their contributions.

If the moderators are removed, then I will leave and find another forum where they have moderators. This would be a great pity as I love being on this forum and taking part, and making new friends.

One thing I would suggest though, is to make a list of the moderators in the FAQ section of this forum, which can be amended if and when names change. This would, I think, be a fairly obvious place for new people to enquire about who the current moderators are. Rather than have 'moderator' with their Avatar, as many have said that when they post they are just being 'members', like you or I.
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Tombstone;731836 wrote: Hi All!



There are perks galore being a mod! :thinking:



Actually, it can be a pretty thankless job - and more often than not - you walk around with a target on your back.



That being said, I'm thinking about moving forward with a suggestion made by one of the moderators: Rotating the moderators.



It's a fair way to have others participate and experience the quandries that can only be felt by a moderator. :D


Me me me me me!!!! *Immy frantically applies to be teachers pet*



Actually, probably best if I didn't, just think of how many times I would have to punish Jimbo for being rude to me..................



..................mmmmmm, maybe I was being hasty.......





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Post by WonderWendy3 »

^^^You are TOO funny^^^:wah::wah::wah:

But on a serious note, Immy would make a good mod!!

I thought of applying for the job, but gee...I'm NEVER here!!:wah::wah:
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Imladris;731938 wrote: Me me me me me!!!! *Immy frantically applies to be teachers pet*



Actually, probably best if I didn't, just think of how many times I would have to punish Jimbo for being rude to me..................



..................mmmmmm, maybe I was being hasty.......





*Immy leaves the thread humming 'I've got the power'*:sneaky:


you get my vote too! :D :-6
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jimbo;731971 wrote: i really do have the utmost respect for your sense of fair play and integrity immy you will make a great mod





on a personal note does any one know of a forum nearly as good as FG i will be banned within an hour :-3:-3:wah:


:wah::wah:She's not a mod yet.....so have fun while you can Jimbo!!
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WonderWendy3;731940 wrote: ^^^You are TOO funny^^^:wah:

But on a serious note, Immy would make a good mod!!

I thought of applying for the job, but gee...I'm NEVER here!!:wah:


Nice try, I'm sure!:D

I don't think anyone who volunteers should be picked... obviously some latent Hitler tendencies. I don't think anyone who has religious beliefs( such as myself;)) that prohibit us from 'Lording' it over everyone else should be picked...I don't think anyone who drinks should be picked... and OMG forget about anyone who has ever eaten red meat or Brussels sprouts on a voluntary basis!:eek:

...No one with one or two syllable user names as they are glaringly uncreative and unable to think outside the box when faced with complex decision making ...

Oh and not Nomad... for the obvious reasons:p
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grh;731979 wrote: Nice try, I'm sure!:D

I don't think anyone who volunteers should be picked... obviously some latent Hitler tendencies. I don't think anyone who has religious beliefs( such as myself;)) that prohibit us from 'Lording' it over everyone else should be picked...I don't think anyone who drinks should be picked... and OMG forget about anyone who has ever eaten red meat or Brussels sprouts on a voluntary basis!:eek:

...No one with one or two syllable user names as they are glaringly uncreative and unable to think outside the box when faced with complex decision making ...

Oh and not Nomad... for the obvious reasons:p


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Post by Chezzie »

How about choosing someone from a forum/section who posts alot there? That way they can be modding the section whilst having fun.

E.G. Maybe Wonderwendy never ventures into the Religious topics but is always in the Just for a laugh, would make sense for her to mod Just for a laugh..(just used a random name for random threads).

Just a thought:lips:
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grh;731979 wrote:

...No one with one or two syllable user names as they are glaringly uncreative and unable to think outside the box when faced with complex decision making ...




I promise not to get inside the box in the first place. Make me a mod, go on Tombie. I have a MISSION to be a MOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can spell (the Aussie way) and can be absolutely ruthless about policing grammar. Infractions for every misplaced apostrophe or splattered infinitive. Banning for using their instead of there or they're.. For expressing any political opinion at all - fifty lashes!!!!

For appearing in disguise - concrete boots. Hey I love this!!! For preaching at people - hell fire!!! And brimstone.

For making puns - drawing and quartering!!!!

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm going to BAN EVERYONE!

AND RULE THE WORLD ALONE IN MY GLORY

UNBOTHERED BY ALL YOU LOT OF DRONGOES.

KNEEL!!!!

AND BRING ME COFFEEEEEEE

now
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AussiePam;732083 wrote: I promise not to get inside the box in the first place. Make me a mod, go on Tombie. I have a MISSION to be a MOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can spell (the Aussie way) and can be absolutely ruthless about policing grammar. Infractions for every misplaced apostrophe or splattered infinitive. Banning for using their instead of there or they're.. For expressing any political opinion at all - fifty lashes!!!!

For appearing in disguise - concrete boots. Hey I love this!!! For preaching at people - hell fire!!! And brimstone.

For making puns - drawing and quartering!!!!

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm going to BAN EVERYONE!

AND RULE THE WORLD ALONE IN MY GLORY

UNBOTHERED BY ALL YOU LOT OF DRONGOES.

KNEEL!!!!

AND BRING ME COFFEEEEEEE

NOW


Aussie's had too much caffeine today.... now, hasn't she??;):D:wah:
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You won't last two minutes, Jimbo - and as fer you Floops, ooops I mean, grh - you shall write out fifty times - I will not use long words like "syllable" or difficult expressions like "glaringly uncreative" without explanatory footnotes.

And I'm still waiting for my coffee!!!! SCRAM BOTH OF YOU

Gosh, this modship thing could be FUN !!!

On the other hand... I suppose it comes with a few responsibilities. Would I have to agree to actually being here????? Sort of often???? ERK. I don't do commitment. Do I have to have meaningful discussions with other mods? Do we need other mods? Can I ban other mods?????????

I gotta thinks some more................



------------------------------

ADDED AFTER COFFEE

I can see clearly now...

God bless all Mods.

Who I am sure do a exhausting and thankless job, excellently, without fear or favour, fair, transparent and without which chaos and anarchy would reign unchecked, unabated, unsung, unpunished and unpunned.

No, I want to keep my illusions.

I want to think the best of all my fellow Gardeners without behind the scenes knowledge that we are all really despicable rotters, trolls and nutters, ravening wolves in lambs clothing, out and out evil incarnate, feverishly pm-ing unpleasantnesses to eachother and generally not being very nice.

I do not want to have the need to know.

I do not want to have to unblonde my hair.

I do not want to have a clue what's really going on.

Ignorance is bliss.

God bless all Mods!!!!
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Post by kayleneaussie »

I think the mods on here are great.Shouldnt pick favourites but Abbey is mine....keeps me on my toes in the arcade....thanks abbey :D
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grh;731867 wrote: and what exactly does this have to do with the price of tea in china?:wah:

are you saying you'd have a bulletin board up with all your customer and employee infractions to be seen by anyone who felt they were entitled to know other peoples business? i don't think so...:rolleyes:


That wasn't what i meant when i asked for stats on how many infractions had been given out and i certainly didn't mean personal details being made public.:-5

What i feel is more important are the numbers and in some cases the circumstances surrounding who then gave them out. What difference would it make, to make public the number of infractions that have been handed out to members/Moderaters since their introduction. I have my own reasons for being curious: i can name four member's who have had disagreements with mods who then went on to be given infractions even though in some instances the Mod started it or was at the very least just as rude. And how can you trust a Mod to be fair when they've openly mocked/slagged off currant members on other sites.

My suggestion would be to change them every 8-12 months - wouldn't that be better all round ...... surely.
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I think Pants' suggestion of rotating mods is a good one and I understand what she's saying. I am all for eliminating this behind the scenes stuff.

Even better I would vote for eliminating moderation entirely (leaving it up to Tombstone like it was previously) as I don't feel anyone here needs babysitting and that's what I see it to be.
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To be serious, I dont' like moderation at all. Would much prefer there to be no moderation. In principle. But in practice.... ????

It seems that they perform two distinct functions, thereby taking some pressure off Tombstone who, without them as a buffer, would probably be in a padded room by now.

The first, I think nobody has a problem with. It's dealing with troll attacks, spam postings, and that sort of nuisance from outside.

The second is more problematic. Keeping peace inside, amongst a large posting population, of diverse opinions, different backgrounds, wide ranging ideas of what constitutes posting etiquette and good manners generally, and with varying degrees of goodwill towards others.

How do you put an alternative mechanism in place to avoid a free for all bloodbath, or does management let it play itself out and hope life will regenerate naturally after the dead are buried and the wounded have crawled off somewhere else? Who really wants a job like this? It's gotta be thankless. Whatever you decide on anything or anyone, someone is probably going to take exception to it, and consider they have been treated unfairly. Have they been? I've looked at the list of moderators and they are a diverse group themselves. There must be at least a couple on the team that each of us can relate to - and consider impartial. But does it work like that? The moderation team says it does, that decisions are made in full consultation.

Were'nt all these issues discussed when moderation was first mooted? I seem to remember Tombstone calling for volunteers. Presumably moderators need to have the time to devote to this, that is they need to be around a lot, committed. Many of us could not fulfil that qualification.

Was rotation considered at that time? Taking on a three month stint might seem less daunting to possible volunteers, if Tombstone wished to go that way, perhaps staggering new intake, so some experienced people were carried over each time. And it would give the current team - or some of them - a well earned break.

Just a few thoughts.
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AussiePam;732548 wrote: To be serious, I dont' like moderation at all. Would much prefer there to be no moderation. In principle. But in practice.... ????

It seems that they perform two distinct functions, thereby taking some pressure off Tombstone who, without them as a buffer, would probably be in a padded room by now.

The first, I think nobody has a problem with. It's dealing with troll attacks, spam postings, and that sort of nuisance from outside.

The second is more problematic. Keeping peace inside, amongst a large posting population, of diverse opinions, different backgrounds, wide ranging ideas of what constitutes posting etiquette and good manners generally, and with varying degrees of goodwill towards others.

How do you put an alternative mechanism in place to avoid a free for all bloodbath, or does management let it play itself out and hope life will regenerate naturally after the dead are buried and the wounded have crawled off somewhere else? Who really wants a job like this? It's gotta be thankless. Whatever you decide on anything or anyone, someone is probably going to take exception to it, and consider they have been treated unfairly. Have they been? I've looked at the list of moderators and they are a diverse group themselves. There must be at least a couple on the team that each of us can relate to - and consider impartial. But does it work like that? The moderation team says it does, that decisions are made in full consultation.

Were'nt all these issues discussed when moderation was first mooted? I seem to remember Tombstone calling for volunteers. Presumably moderators need to have the time to devote to this, that is they need to be around a lot, committed. Many of us could not fulfil that qualification.

Was rotation considered at that time? Taking on a three month stint might seem less daunting to possible volunteers, if Tombstone wished to go that way, perhaps staggering new intake, so some experienced people were carried over each time. And it would give the current team - or some of them - a well earned break.

Just a few thoughts.




Since I have been here I have seen a fair few disagreements, I am glad that we have mods for the reason highlighted above, without the intervention of the mods many people would leave during these fights and we'd be left with bullies running the place.

PS. Well said AP :-6
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Some of you people either need a little love in your life or a hobby. Maybe both. Try cooking it has done wonders for me.
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On a serious note (yes, I can do serious!) I've tried to stay out of disputes here 'cos I accept that there are bigger intellects here than mine and I don't want to be humiliated for my lack of knowledge, thank you very much!



Also, personalities play a big part, any grown up realises that you can't get on with all the people all the time. I come here for fun, if I want aggro I can get that at home, I am married with kids after all - aggro comes with the job:thinking:



I think the mods here are pretty fair, they've not banned me for being too flippant after all!:D
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pantsonfire321@aol.com;732525 wrote: That wasn't what i meant when i asked for stats on how many infractions had been given out and i certainly didn't mean personal details being made public.:-5

What i feel is more important are the numbers and in some cases the circumstances surrounding who then gave them out. What difference would it make, to make public the number of infractions that have been handed out to members/Moderaters since their introduction. I have my own reasons for being curious: i can name four member's who have had disagreements with mods who then went on to be given infractions even though in some instances the Mod started it or was at the very least just as rude. And how can you trust a Mod to be fair when they've openly mocked/slagged off currant members on other sites.

My suggestion would be to change them every 8-12 months - wouldn't that be better all round ...... surely.


The question then becomes - who decides which infractions fall into the some catagory?... Only those which may have been applied to someone you are interested in or curious about?... Or someone I am interested in or curious about? And who do you want making that decision?

I don't give a rats ass who says what about me or anyone else on another forum. I can't believe anyone wastes their life tracking such things, myself. Then again, I don't give much of a rats ass what anyone says about me on this site, so I'm sure I'm not much of a judge of right and wrong. I do care what people say in the open forum, here. I do judge whether or not I personally feel something is 'right' or 'fair' toward another member and then I may place that member in the 'I can't be bothered with' category. Or I may simply post that I think they were out of line.

So, I'm all for individual moderation. I don't care how often(if ever) moderators are rotated.

For the record, I like reading your posts Pants. I enjoy a different viewpoint. The fact I may argue the point should never be seen as a personal objection to you , simply my different view on the subject.:-6
Who are they to protest me? Who are they? Unless they've been me and been there and know what the hell they're yelling about!

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I've learned that if you make enough idiotic posts, the mod's will put you on ignore and you will never be banned. I think it worked for Jimbo too.:D
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YGZI

as the main mod here and the one who has the fines paid in to that swiss acc

the last fine ya made me pay $75 for saying butt was a bit steep

jimbo only had to pay $45 for saying ass

would ya care to reply



ps where is my receipt
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el guapo;732723 wrote: YGZI

as the main mod here and the one who has the fines paid in to that swiss acc



the last fine ya made me pay $75 for saying butt was a bit steep



jimbo only had to pay $45 for saying ass



would ya care to reply





ps where is my receipt
Ixnay on the inesfay El uapogay.:D
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YZGI;732728 wrote: Ixnay on the inesfay El uapogay.:D


whatn hellsaying buttpl ugboy
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el guapo;732733 wrote: whatn hellsaying buttpl ugboy
It's Latin.
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YZGI;732739 wrote: It's Latin.


PIG!
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WonderWendy3;732741 wrote: PIG!
That's Male Chauvinist pig to you.:D
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YZGI;732746 wrote: That's Male Chauvinist pig to you.:D


Yes sir.....:yh_worshp:yh_worshp:yh_worshp
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YZGI;732746 wrote: That's Male Chauvinist pig to you.:D




Don't you mean Mr Male Chauvanist Pig??:sneaky:
Originally Posted by spot

She is one fit bitch innit, that Immy





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YZGI;732746 wrote: That's Male Chauvinist pig to you.:D


so what are females called when they check out men?? :thinking: :D
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jimbo;732760 wrote: gold diggers :thinking::thinking:


:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
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