who moderates the mods

Post by **spot** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:53 am

I'm sure you are.

No.

I expect it's to rile people up. What makes you think they're from "the Mod lounge"?

pantsonfire321@aol.com · Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:58 am

jimbo;730802 wrote: where are the mods????

surly this warrants an infraction and a banning :wah::wah:

nice to see you posting again pants:D:D

Sorry i'm still confused ..and Thankyou.

pantsonfire321@aol.com · Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:14 am

spot;730799 wrote: I'm sure you are.

No.

I expect it's to rile people up. What makes you think they're from "the Mod lounge"?

Because the person who sent the PMs..claimed to be another mod ... and why would they lie .

**For the record i've been told that the person who received the mail has infact sent it to TS so the admin should already be aware of it.

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:17 am

abbey;730765 wrote: Dear All,

I have been a member of FG for a little over 3 years, I've had my ups and downs with some members

but on the whole I like to think I have been fair.

I really dont see why now at this time I have to come here and justify my actions to everyone.

As a moderator I look through all posts and pics and sigs to check that no-one violates the TOS.

Is it hard? No

Is it a pain in the arse? Sometimes Yes.

I have given infractions to members who I have considered my friend and lost their friendship because of it, hey-ho.

I dont post as often as I did because of it.

If a member like summer gets an infraction for insulting another member and then carries on doing it then she gets another one,

3 strikes and you're out, simple as that.

We tried snooze's suggestion (splitting the mods into area's) a couple of years ago and it did'nt work imo,

mainly because of the time differences, I'd come on FG in the morning and I would'nt be able to access an area full of obsene posts or spam because the mod for that area was in bed.

As for me "Putting pressure" on another mod to get someone banned, if you knew me you would know that the idea is laughable.

This thread has made me very sad knowing you feel this way.

Abbey I have sent you a PM, but I just want to clarify here that no one at FG thinks that you are unfair, you do an excellent job for a rubbish wage :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Please don't be sad cause that makes me sad and when I'm sad I have an amazing way of making everyone in the house sad, so 5 peoples sadness is depending on you :-3:-3

:-4

Post by **spot** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:22 am

pantsonfire321@aol.com;730822 wrote: Because the person who sent the PMs..claimed to be another mod ... and why would they lie .

**For the record i've been told that the person who received the mail has infact sent it to TS so the admin should already be aware of it.We seem to be reverting to the "somebody" "someone" "the person" mode of indirect speech again. It rarely helps achieve clarity.

There are various parts of FG which are accessible only to moderators. Some have a different degree of confidentiality to others. If you saw something from an area reserved for moderators I expect you saw something from a non-confidential section.

As for "why would they lie" you're presumably attempting humour. You might just as well ask why would they stir.

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:27 am

SuzyB;730825 wrote: Abbey I have sent you a PM, but I just want to clarify here that no one at FG thinks that you are unfair, you do an excellent job for a rubbish wage :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Please don't be sad cause that makes me sad and when I'm sad I have an amazing way of making everyone in the house sad, so 5 peoples sadness is depending on you :-3:-3

:-4

Jeez, I just re-read that, sorry folks I think Jimbos style of writing is starting to rub off on me

pantsonfire321@aol.com · Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:31 am

spot;730835 wrote: We seem to be reverting to the "somebody" "someone" "the person" mode of indirect speech again. It rarely helps achieve clarity.

There are various parts of FG which are accessible only to moderators. Some have a different degree of confidentiality to others. If you saw something from an area reserved for moderators I expect you saw something from a non-confidential section.

As for "why would they lie" you're presumably attempting humour. You might just as well ask why would they stir.

Deflecting as usual ....i think the people here deserve some answers .

Post by **spot** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:33 am

pantsonfire321@aol.com;730848 wrote: Deflecting as usual ....Not at all. The "somebody" "someone" "the person" mode of indirect speech rarely helps achieve clarity. And you're stirring.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:41 am

I came here to the garden at a friends suggestion after they and some others were bullied off another site. I for one am grateful this place has moderators. The other site we were on did not and it was totally shocking to see how exremely vicious and cruel some people could be towards others. I have seen spats/ arguments/ rows on here but nothing even close to how bad it was there. There was a report button which was automated, and anyone could press it so people got banned for a few hours, days or even life. this was and still is totally abused. I got bans myself, and they dont even tell you why, just an automated response to say you have posted something abusive or offensive, or broke the TOC. I can assure you i have never posted anything abusive or offensive. Anyway my point is, if it came down to a choice of wether we should have moderators or not, i would definately choose to have them.

by the way, i would hate to be a mod

Post by **spot** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:43 am

jimbo;730796 wrote: ok buddy thanks now in english my learned friend can you please tell me why whats her name summer sherry ?? was banned or is it not for my little unimportant non mod fger ears :wah::wah:

I can't imagine any answer would be forthcoming since discussion in the moderator areas is necessarily confidential and sometimes based in part on information that doesn't appear in public threads.

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:47 am

I have got to share this story, when I first joined Tombstone asked people to let him know if they would be prepared to be a mod, well I sent him a PM volunteering. Not long after my back went gain and I was really sick, I was in and out of hospital and on pethidine for the pain, lots of pethidine. When I felt a little better about 3 months later I came back on line, because I could view something in the compost file, I thought that meant I was a mod, well I was saying all this to Jim and the little sod didn't tell me that everyone can go there:-5

Well to cut a long story short he let me PM Tombstone to ask if I was in fact a MOD, he sat there with tears running down his face after I sent the send button, so it has been a long standing joke ever since:-5

Obviously you all understand that I was high on drugs while all this took place

:wah:

pantsonfire321@aol.com · Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:55 am

spot;730852 wrote: Not at all. The "somebody" "someone" "the person" mode of indirect speech rarely helps achieve clarity. And you're stirring.

You would say that because your deflecting .

Whats the point of having an open discussion if the Mods refuse to answer stuff . This isn't about me (although i could quite happily mention my own run-ins with the Mods and i'm sure there are many others who could do the same ) .

...if i wanted to stirr i would mention the member who complained about one of the Mods recently and got a reply telling them - they were out of order and they should apologise for making the complaint. Its all in black and white ..you couldn't make it up

.

pantsonfire321@aol.com · Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:59 am

SuzyB;730877 wrote: I have got to share this story, when I first joined Tombstone asked people to let him know if they would be prepared to be a mod, well I sent him a PM volunteering. Not long after my back went gain and I was really sick, I was in and out of hospital and on pethidine for the pain, lots of pethidine. When I felt a little better about 3 months later I came back on line, because I could view something in the compost file, I thought that meant I was a mod, well I was saying all this to Jim and the little sod didn't tell me that everyone can go there:-5

Well to cut a long story short he let me PM Tombstone to ask if I was in fact a MOD, he sat there with tears running down his face after I sent the send button, so it has been a long standing joke ever since:-5

Obviously you all understand that I was high on drugs while all this took place

:wah:

Only if your a supporting member ..as far as i'm aware .:-3

Snooze · Post by **Snooze** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:29 am

spot;730852 wrote: Not at all. The "somebody" "someone" "the person" mode of indirect speech rarely helps achieve clarity. And you're stirring.

She isn't stirring, she's trying not to involve me.

I'd like to clarify Pants' comments... someone, apparently one of the mods, has been anonymously emailing me screen grabs from the mod forum here that discussed me in particular. It seems that if anyone 'questionable' joins this forum, it's automatically assumed it's me, even if the IP address isn't correct, and a couple of the mods were discussing it and asking if they could 'keep me'... whatever that means. This anonymous person told me she felt I could use this info since I'm 'their biggest opponent.' :rolleyes:

I don't plan to go into specifics or post the screen grabs since I've already forwarded that on to the mods and admin (without receiving any responses, by the way) but I don't like seeing my friend Pants being abused once again while spot pretends ignorance/innocence.

Alright, I'm braced! I imagine I'll be disappearing like Summerishere did.

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:58 am

spot;730799 wrote: I'm sure you are.

No.

I expect it's to rile people up. What makes you think they're from "the Mod lounge"?

I bet there is! With an open fire place, comfy sofas, a bar and cookies galore! :yh_wink

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:01 am

abbey;730765 wrote: Dear All,

I have been a member of FG for a little over 3 years, I've had my ups and downs with some members

but on the whole I like to think I have been fair.

I really dont see why now at this time I have to come here and justify my actions to everyone.

As a moderator I look through all posts and pics and sigs to check that no-one violates the TOS.

Is it hard? No

Is it a pain in the arse? Sometimes Yes.

I have given infractions to members who I have considered my friend and lost their friendship because of it, hey-ho.

I dont post as often as I did because of it.

If a member like summer gets an infraction for insulting another member and then carries on doing it then she gets another one,

3 strikes and you're out, simple as that.

We tried snooze's suggestion (splitting the mods into area's) a couple of years ago and it did'nt work imo,

mainly because of the time differences, I'd come on FG in the morning and I would'nt be able to access an area full of obsene posts or spam because the mod for that area was in bed.

As for me "Putting pressure" on another mod to get someone banned, if you knew me you would know that the idea is laughable.

This thread has made me very sad knowing you feel this way.

I think you do a great job Abbey :-4

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:10 am

I bet there's an adult toy section too

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:18 am

ThePheasant;730940 wrote: I bet there's an adult toy section too

Jeez Pheasy, I thought i'd gone into the wrong thread, I had to back track there :wah::wah:

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:33 am

All you viewing this thread will you please come and talk to me on the other threads, it's getting boring talking to myself

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:51 am

SuzyB;730952 wrote: All you viewing this thread will you please come and talk to me on the other threads, it's getting boring talking to myself

:wah::wah: I cant im just too dam nosey:rolleyes: anyway i gotta go sort out sunday lunch now, veg is nearly done.

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:59 am

kazalala;730969 wrote: :wah: I cant im just too dam nosey:rolleyes: anyway i gotta go sort out sunday lunch now, veg is nearly done.

Kinda reminds me of a car accident, the people hanging around tend to cause more problems than the actual accident:driving::wah: Not trying to insinute that you are a problem Kaz

:wah:

Post by **Victor Meldrew** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:22 am

Mods behaving badly?

I don't believe it! :rolleyes:

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:24 am

Victor Meldrew;730997 wrote: Mods behaving badly?

I don't believe it! :rolleyes:

Oh I don't know, I always thought the rockers were worse

Chezzie · Post by **Chezzie** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:25 am

Victor Meldrew;730997 wrote: Mods behaving badly?

I don't believe it! :rolleyes:

excellent:wah::wah::wah:

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:28 am

SuzyB;730975 wrote: Kinda reminds me of a car accident, the people hanging around tend to cause more problems than the actual accident:driving::wah: Not trying to insinute that you are a problem Kaz

:wah:

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:30 am

ThePheasant;731005 wrote:

Good one Pheasy :wah:

Chezzie · Post by **Chezzie** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:53 am

When things go wrong, as they sometimes will,

When the posts you're creating seems all up hill,

When the replies are low, and the views are high,

And you want to smile, but you have to sigh,

When care is pressing you down a bit,

Rest if you must, but don't you quit.

Life is queer with it's twists and turns,

As everyone of us sometimes learns,

And many a failure turns about,

When he might have won had he stuck it out.

Don't give up though the pace seems slow,

You may succeed with another go.

Success is failure turned inside out,

The silver tint of the clouds of doubt,

And you never can tell how close you are,

It may be near when it seems so far,

So stick to the fight when you're hardest hit,

It's when things seem worse,

That you must not quit.

...Edgar A. Guest with a twist of the chezster:sneaky:

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:57 am

Chezzie;731033 wrote: When things go wrong, as they sometimes will,

When the posts you're creating seems all up hill,

When the replies are low, and the views are high,

And you want to smile, but you have to sigh,

When care is pressing you down a bit,

Rest if you must, but don't you quit.

Life is queer with it's twists and turns,

As everyone of us sometimes learns,

And many a failure turns about,

When he might have won had he stuck it out.

Don't give up though the pace seems slow,

You may succeed with another go.

Success is failure turned inside out,

The silver tint of the clouds of doubt,

And you never can tell how close you are,

It may be near when it seems so far,

So stick to the fight when you're hardest hit,

It's when things seem worse,

That you must not quit.

...Edgar A. Guest with a twist of the chezster:sneaky:

Thats brill :wah::wah:

grh · Post by **grh** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:26 am

pantsonfire321@aol.com;730848 wrote: Deflecting as usual ....i think the people here deserve some answers .

I don't need the answers to your questions and I think it is fair to say I was and am pretty vocal in my opinion of the need for mods.

Companies I go into every day for groceries, gas, cigs, whatever - occasionally ban other customers from the premises. It is none of my business who, how many or why. Whether I know those other customers or not. Whether I know management or not.

I have two options - quit giving them my business because they made that decision without consulting me or live my life the same way I always do and leave them to run their business.

Don't confuse the fact that this is an 'on-line community' with this being 'the peoples' community. This is a business(sure hope he doesn't support his family on the proceeds:D). We all have the same two options.

diane

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:56 am

I don't need the answers to your questions and I think it is fair to say I was and am pretty vocal in my opinion of the need for mods.

Did you always feel that way foops ?

I thought you felt strongly the other way at some earlier point.

grh · Post by **grh** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:02 am

Nomad;731152 wrote: I don't need the answers to your questions and I think it is fair to say I was and am pretty vocal in my opinion of the need for mods.

Did you always feel that way foops ?

I thought you felt strongly the other way at some earlier point.

No dear, you're confusing me thinking you need [MEDS] with me thinking this place needs [MODS]:p

Post by **spot** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:06 am

You've not lost the knack then, floppy!

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:11 am

grh;731158 wrote: No dear, you're confusing me thinking you need [MEDS] with me thinking this place needs [MODS]:p

There was never any confusion about that fooperoo.

pantsonfire321@aol.com · Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:48 am

grh;731131 wrote: I don't need the answers to your questions and I think it is fair to say I was and am pretty vocal in my opinion of the need for mods.

Companies I go into every day for groceries, gas, cigs, whatever - occasionally ban other customers from the premises. It is none of my business who, how many or why. Whether I know those other customers or not. Whether I know management or not.

I have two options - quit giving them my business because they made that decision without consulting me or live my life the same way I always do and leave them to run their business.

Don't confuse the fact that this is an 'on-line community' with this being 'the peoples' community. This is a business(sure hope he doesn't support his family on the proceeds:D). We all have the same two options.

diane

We all have our own individual opinions and whos to say anyone opinion is any more right than another . The way i see it, this thread was opened for a reason and i along with everyone else asked the questions that i alone wanted some answer's too ... i didn't believe for one second that i would get those answers but i put them down all the same and as far as i'm concerned if it helps just one person speak up who other wise would not of, for fear of repercussions then any hostility aimed at me will be worth it (i don't mean from you ) .

I also think the fact that Summer was banned may have an affect on people saying their piece.

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:55 am

If any one expects the mods to reprint our discussions on the public boards they will be waiting a long time. You act as though you've been infracted for posting in here, pants. That just isn't true. Neither has Snooze's account been infracted. I don't even think that her current account is close to a banning. There are some people who punish themselves the more they write. imo, both of you fall into that category.

Continue, if you must. As I've said, I'm a masochist more than a sadist so it's quite unenjoyable to read but, if it makes you feel better, carry on.

If the point is to see what you need to write to get banned you could just start at the top of the likeliness list and work your way down instead of the reverse. It would save a lot of time.

pantsonfire321@aol.com · Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:00 am

koan;731222 wrote: If any one expects the mods to reprint our discussions on the public boards they will be waiting a long time. You act as though you've been infracted for posting in here, pants. That just isn't true. Neither has Snooze's account been infracted. I don't even think that her current account is close to a banning. There are some people who punish themselves the more they write. imo, both of you fall into that category.

Continue, if you must. As I've said, I'm a masochist more than a sadist so it's quite unenjoyable to read but, if it makes you feel better, carry on.

If the point is to see what you need to write to get banned you could just start at the top of the likeliness list and work your way down instead of the reverse. It would save a lot of time.

Here is in this thread ...sorry, can you clarify :-3

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:07 am

pantsonfire321@aol.com;731215 wrote: if it helps just one person speak up who other wise would not of, for fear of repercussions then any hostility aimed at me will be worth it

seems to imply that you are being punished for posting in this thread, or expect it.

Certainly members have a right to ask for answers.

Certainly mods have the right to answer in the way they see appropriate.

Certainly members don't have the right to demand that mods say or do something that we do not feel is appropriate. What you feel you need from this board is true for you, but for you only. Many members do not feel the need to have soap operas littering the forum. Both needs should be considered.

pantsonfire321@aol.com · Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:21 am

[QUOTE=koan;731239]seems to imply that you are being punished for posting in this thread, or expect it.

Certainly members have a right to ask for answers.

Certainly mods have the right to answer in the way they see appropriate.

Certainly members don't have the right to demand that mods say or do something that we do not feel is appropriate. What you feel you need from this board is true for you, but for you only. Many members do not feel the need to have soap operas littering the forum. Both needs should be considered.[/QUOTE]

Yes i agree. My opinion is mine and mine alone and i don't claim to speak for the forum as a whole ..how could i . I've said that some members here may want answers and they should be allowed the opportunity to ask at the very least .

I don't believe i've insulted anyone here so why would i be looking to be banned ????:-3

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:24 am

I'm trying to discover what this "hostility" you referred to is all about.

pantsonfire321@aol.com · Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:33 am

koan;731256 wrote: I'm trying to discover what this "hostility" you referred to is all about.

If and when it ever happens i'll be sure to use the report button just like every body else .

Imladris · Post by **Imladris** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:53 am

I blame myself, I really do, honestly - you just post once that we'd hadn't had any hostility for a while and everyone goes mental behind your back!

Next time someone tell me to shut up - not you Jimbo before you wet yourself in anticipation:D

By the way, later I shall be taking a sleeping tablet and if you catch me in the delightful haze of just nodding off - I shall be high as a kite and I'll love you all :wah:

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:02 pm

SuzyB;730877 wrote: I have got to share this story, when I first joined Tombstone asked people to let him know if they would be prepared to be a mod, well I sent him a PM volunteering. Not long after my back went gain and I was really sick, I was in and out of hospital and on pethidine for the pain, lots of pethidine. When I felt a little better about 3 months later I came back on line, because I could view something in the compost file, I thought that meant I was a mod, well I was saying all this to Jim and the little sod didn't tell me that everyone can go there:-5

Well to cut a long story short he let me PM Tombstone to ask if I was in fact a MOD, he sat there with tears running down his face after I sent the send button, so it has been a long standing joke ever since:-5

Obviously you all understand that I was high on drugs while all this took place

:wah::yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl What a bugger!

freetobeme · Post by **freetobeme** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:15 pm

ThePheasant;730151 wrote: This thread contains mod names :-6

http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/showt ... hp?t=31843
Thanks, this is the only forum I know of that doesn't tell you who moderates a forum, or at least shows a mod. title. Wonder why that is.

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:50 pm

freetobeme;731314 wrote: Thanks, this is the only forum I know of that doesn't tell you who moderates a forum, or at least shows a mod. title. Wonder why that is.

you're seriously asking this question again?

I don't mean to sound... negative... but we've already answered that.

The mods are able to post as regular members. Marking names as mods gives the impression that we have extra status and none of us wish to be seen that way.

I'm sorry if the answer was lost in all the other posts made here. I don't want you, or anyone else, to think we ignored the question though.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:33 pm

[quote=Imladris;731281]I blame myself, I really do, honestly - you just post once that we'd hadn't had any hostility for a while and everyone goes mental behind your back!

Ive been 100% forthright about my mentalness.

freetobeme · Post by **freetobeme** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:01 pm

koan;731325 wrote: you're seriously asking this question again?

I don't mean to sound... negative... but we've already answered that.

The mods are able to post as regular members. Marking names as mods gives the impression that we have extra status and none of us wish to be seen that way.

I'm sorry if the answer was lost in all the other posts made here. I don't want you, or anyone else, to think we ignored the question though.

Did I ask it before? Didn't read the whole thread so maybe you did answer it.

Mods do have extra status so to speak, but IMO mods. represent the 'company' and as such should be particularly careful not to be biased.

AussiePam · Post by **AussiePam** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:26 pm

freetobeme;731642 wrote: IMO mods. represent the 'company' and as such should be particularly careful not to be biased.

I haven't read all the thread but I agree with that. Mods get privileges and responsibility and I don't see how these can be switched off. It's a bit like being a prefect at school. You're selected, presumably because God thinks you're good blokes/blokesses and worthy leaders, and if you accept you are always a prefect, even when you're not officially on duty. So there's no such thing as ever again being quite like the unselect, unwashed masses who don't get to go in the Prefects Study where the chosen ones get coffee, toast, possibly marshmallows and the key to the executive washroom.

:-6

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:39 pm

Tombstone!

I need to speak to you about a few of these perks we are all supposed to get. Where are you hiding them?