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jimbo;722185 wrote: hi fiends



hi g#gill :D


Hi Jim, hope you're keeping OK, not many posts on your 'spoof' thread lately, have they emigrated ? :-3 :-4
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jimbo;722215 wrote: i'm the only one that post on it since you and carolly abandoned ship

i might just go there and post some spoof photo's of you two
Oh Winkle.....I didn't honest!!!Just get peed off being ignored..........not by you of course superstud, tell yer I fink Im friendly or try to be to everyone who posts here but find that theres alot of "clicky" people here that tend to post after you have no matter what you have written as if you wasn't there on other threads.Im sorry but I find this so rude that I do tend to stay away from those threads....but tell yer what as I dont like to see a grown man cry:wah:I will come an see you ok.....BUT you better behave young man.....young???I jest of course!:wah::p;)
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wow! lots of posts since i left here yeaterday! right well im just havin a quick pop in to touch base so sorry if i dont reply to you personally:p had absolutely no help at all at work today, but guess what? i got on better without it, i spose its true what they say if you want summat doing right do it yersel, mind the fact that the computer behaved very well today helped a lot:wah: and now i have probably jinxed it for tomorrow:thinking:

Nice to see everyone here, Suzy an JIm as well, some lovely pics, and verses ( carol did you have to take up so much space) Im off to the haunted pub tonight but its not so bads cos shaz will just have to come with me every time i go to the loo.

Have a good eveniong and i will be back tomorrow night.

Hugs an Kisses xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxKaz.




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Jimbo !!!!!!! I have NOTabandoned ship !!!!! I had a flurry of 'loo' orientated pics on the 14th matey !!!! May you be forgiven :-5
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Hi Kaz ! You doing Carol's rabbit act now eh ? In ........out .........in .........out , just can't keep up with you two ! :yh_rotfl ;) Enjoy your evening matey :eek: :-4
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CAROL I AM GUNNA KILL YAAAAAAAAAAAA GIRL:mad::-4

GILL I AM SOOOOOOOOOOOOO SCARED :yh_rotfl:-4
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Carolly that mother and boys poem was lovely,

and hello to everyone here :D

The FG meet is being planned for a weekend in January,

Possibly the 25th in London,

but i will pop in again to let you know for certain.

It would be good to see everyone together :-4
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kazalala;722242 wrote: wow! lots of posts since i left here yeaterday! right well im just havin a quick pop in to touch base so sorry if i dont reply to you personally:p had absolutely no help at all at work today, but guess what? i got on better without it, i spose its true what they say if you want summat doing right do it yersel, mind the fact that the computer behaved very well today helped a lot:wah: and now i have probably jinxed it for tomorrow:thinking:

Nice to see everyone here, Suzy an JIm as well, some lovely pics, and verses ( carol did you have to take up so much space) Im off to the haunted pub tonight but its not so bads cos shaz will just have to come with me every time i go to the loo.

Have a good eveniong and i will be back tomorrow night.

Hugs an Kisses xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxKaz.IM CAROL FFS........OF COURSE I DO WOMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!:p
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G#Gill;722253 wrote: Jimbo !!!!!!! I have NOTabandoned ship !!!!! I had a flurry of 'loo' orientated pics on the 14th matey !!!! May you be forgiven :-5Oh gawd ........the Drama Queens off!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:;)
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kayleneaussie;722260 wrote: CAROL I AM GUNNA KILL YAAAAAAAAAAAA GIRL

GILL I AM SOOOOOOOOOOOOO SCARED :yh_rotfl:-4


What meeeeeeeeeeeeeee.......I dunno just cause im the quiet one you lot take advantage of my good nature:-5:wah:
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littlemissgiggle;722262 wrote: Carolly that mother and boys poem was lovely,

and hello to everyone here :D

The FG meet is being planned for a weekend in January,

Possibly the 25th in London,

but i will pop in again to let you know for certain.

It would be good to see everyone together :-4Glad you liked it babe. Yes do let us know all the details please;)
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CAROL WHO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WOMAN....YOU SAID QUIET.....THAT AINT YOU :p:-4:yh_rotfl
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Hello everyone....hope you've had a lovely weekend.

Just a message for Gill here. Thank you so much for all the pics of the UK and you're advice on uploading. It's so simple for me now to right click and save as....didn't realize that. I do use photobucket, but they don't have some pics that I'm searching for. But, I love photobucket.

This is a pic of the area where my family live. It's called the Poison Glen in Dunlewy, Donegal. This Church is in the middle of a valley with Errigal Mountain (mountain I climbed ha ha. I'm so proud of myself), behind it. You have to climb down into this valley, and I've done it many times. Looks a lot like Scotland, doesn't it?? Scientists from all over the world come here to study the poisonous bogs.

I think I've said hello at times to all my new friends at FOC except I didn't meet Kay....Nice to meet you Kay. Hi Joannie...have you found a poem about the sea...I'd love to read one.

I'm sorry if I hadn't responded to a post anyone has sent my way......sometimes it would take hours just to go back and reread all posts...love how you keep in touch with each other.

Carol........you just crack me up:-6

Now, let's see if my pic works:-5

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SuzyB;722104 wrote: Hi everyone, I hope that you are all well :)

What a miserable morning it is, I should really be going to the bank and doing the weekly shop, but I am lying in bed with a hot water bottle, the chores can wait another day :)


Hi Suzy:-4,

Just noticed you there luv....hope you're well.
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Kathy Ellen;722329 wrote: Hello everyone....hope you've had a lovely weekend.

Just a message for Gill here. Thank you so much for all the pics of the UK and you're advice on uploading. It's so simple for me now to right click and save as....didn't realize that. I do use photobucket, but they don't have some pics that I'm searching for. But, I love photobucket.

This is a pic of the area where my family live. It's called the Poison Glen in Dunlewy, Donegal. This Church is in the middle of a valley with Errigal Mountain (mountain I climbed ha ha. I'm so proud of myself), behind it. You have to climb down into this valley, and I've done it many times. Looks a lot like Scotland, doesn't it?? Scientists from all over the world come here to study the poisonous bogs.

I think I've said hello at times to all my new friends at FOC except I didn't meet Kay....Nice to meet you Kay. Hi Joannie...have you found a poem about the sea...I'd love to read one. I'm sorry if I hadn't responded to a post you've sent my way......sometimes it would take hours just to go back and reread all posts.

Carol........you just crack me up:-6

Now, let's see if my pic works:-5




Kathy Ellen -------------------------------------------------------It works alright, and yes it is very like Scotland :D Thanks
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You've saved me hours of torture here Gill thanks. And one day I will also visit Scotland...it is so like Donegal.....my favorite place on earth.
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Kathy, as you love Ireland so you would love Scotland. I have Welsh blood and Scottish blood in me - you could say I was of mixed race :wah: My grandmother on my mother's side was a true cockney (she having been born within the sound of Bow bells), so I have cockney in me as well ! (so Carol, just watch what you say to me matey !). My hubby Chris also has Scottish blood in him - Macdonald Clan Ancient (Lord of the Isles) from the Isle of Skye. This, strangely, is where my sister now lives and where we are hoping to also live, when we sell our house here. It was only after we had visited my sister a couple of years ago (the first time I'd seen Scotland), and fell in love with Skye, that we actually found out from Chris's sister about Chris's Scottish ancestry and the association with Skye ! Very strange that.



Clan Macdonald Ancient (Lord of the Isles)

My tartan was a little different, but of course each of us is entitled to wear either of these tartans through marriage.



Cameron tartan.



My older brother John has spent several years researching our genealogy and filled reams of paper with fascinating details. He e-mailed the whole lot to me about a year ago.

The Welsh part of me comes from my father's side. I don't think we have any Irish blood in us though.

This is Port Talbot across Swansea Bay



My Dad used to go to the Port Talbot Grammar School, His father was an electrical engineer working down one of the coal mines in the area. He was a Scotsman working in Wales !
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Hi kathy lovely to meet you:D
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Ahhhh now Gill:-4

You are making me cry now with all your beautiful posts of the UK and especially of Cornwall and Scotland. When I first visited Ireland at the ripe old age of 19 I met my Auntie Ellen, who was my Nana's sister and never left Ireland. She stayed home to take care of the siblings. She lived in a wee cottage in the back of beyond of Donegal called Meenacross. Donegal people are called the 'Fardowners." My family finally made her life a little bit more comfortable by bringing in electricity and water to her home. She wouldn't leave and come live with us, and we kinda moved in with her as often as we could.

She would put on the turf fire every night, and she taught us Yanks the songs of Donegal. She also taught us the Skye Boat Song. That is the first song that my relative taught me how to play on a keyboard for a college course I had. We sing Skye Boat at all of our singing gatherings.

If you move one day to Skye I wish you lots of love, peace and happiness on this beautiful island. I love all of your tartans...what treasures. I have to come back again for better study of all your pics.

Thank you Gill :-4



Here's the Skye Boat Song:





Irish Gaelic Song that Auntie Ellen taught us: I think this song is taught to every Irish child in grade school.



Báidín Fheilimí

Báidín Fheilimí, d'imigh go Góla, báidín Fheilimí is Feilimí ann,

Báidín Fheilimí, d'imigh go Góla, báidín Fheilimí is Feilimí ann.

chorus:

Báidín bídeach, báidín beosach, báidín bóidheach, báidín Fheilimí.

Báidín díreach, báidín deontach, báidín Fheilimí is Feilimí ann.

Báidín Fheilimí, d'imigh go Toraí, báidín Fheilimí is Feilimí ann,

Báidín Fheilimí, d'imigh go Toraí, báidín Fheilimí is Feilimí ann.

Báidín Fheilimí, briseadh i dToraí, báidín Fheilimí is Feilimí ann,

Báidín Fheilimí, briseadh i dToraí Fheilimí is Feilimí ann.



Feilim's little boat goes off to Gola, and Tory Island. It's a well-built, straight and strong boat, but in the last verse it is wrecked off Tory as many a boat has
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kayleneaussie;722399 wrote: Hi kathy lovely to meet you:D


Hello Kay,

And it's lovely to meet you also. Where are ya from in Oz? Plan to visit Australia when I retire to visit Aussie Pam. Let's all have a meet up when I retire in a thousand years.:wah:
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This is a Scottish song that my brothers and I have sung for years at our family parties. I thought you like to listen to the Clancy boys sing the song...

"Will Ya Go Lassie Go..."

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"Yipes and cripes to all my FOC friends,"

I'm really sorry, but it seems that I've set up my tent and have moved... lock, stock and barrel into the FOC threat with all my posts. I think it's just all Gills fault. She has just moved me with all her thoughts about Scotland and Cornwall ,and now all I wanna do is sing all of my Irish and Scottish songs and just yellllllll all around. ...OK....JUST BAN ME NOW....OK... BUT I'M GONNA DANCE BEFORE I GO...

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Hi Kathy...I live west of Sydney, NSW. Cant wait for you to come over (in a thousand years) :D
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Hello everybody, I hope you are all OK. Just a quick note to say that I will probably not be able to come on the thread for a while, or even MSN, ( Carol and Kaz understand my personal situation) unless I find that I am on my own at home.

LHKs to all my friends here. :-4

Just for Kathy Ellen and of course for anybody else who wants to see this remarkable group of dancers. Au revoir LHKs

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kayleneaussie;722287 wrote: CAROL WHO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WOMAN....YOU SAID QUIET.....THAT AINT YOU :p_OH YES IT IS.........DEAD QUIET I AM SO THERE !!:p:mad:;)
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Kathy Ellen;722329 wrote: Hello everyone....hope you've had a lovely weekend.

Just a message for Gill here. Thank you so much for all the pics of the UK and you're advice on uploading. It's so simple for me now to right click and save as....didn't realize that. I do use photobucket, but they don't have some pics that I'm searching for. But, I love photobucket.

This is a pic of the area where my family live. It's called the Poison Glen in Dunlewy, Donegal. This Church is in the middle of a valley with Errigal Mountain (mountain I climbed ha ha. I'm so proud of myself), behind it. You have to climb down into this valley, and I've done it many times. Looks a lot like Scotland, doesn't it?? Scientists from all over the world come here to study the poisonous bogs.

I think I've said hello at times to all my new friends at FOC except I didn't meet Kay....Nice to meet you Kay. Hi Joannie...have you found a poem about the sea...I'd love to read one.

I'm sorry if I hadn't responded to a post anyone has sent my way......sometimes it would take hours just to go back and reread all posts...love how you keep in touch with each other.

Carol........you just crack me up:-6

Now, let's see if my pic works:-5Ahh fanks.....this lot dont appreciate me yer know Kathy........you obviously are a woman of great taste!!!;):rolleyes:
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Hi GuysxxxxFirst of all I have to say that Im at Chris's doing this as me bleedin routers packed up..........poxy fing so no internet for me at home. They have told me it could be upto 7 days delivering a new one so will get on here whenever I can..........thats if I dont go an sort em out before,,,,,,,,,bloody 7 days.........I will go mental by then!!!:-5.So Gill dont have a go at me for no MSN as it aint my fault ok!!!!!:rolleyes:Good to see Kathy joining in with us nutters and Kathy............Im the sensible one hun as you can see;).Oh well I better go.......by the way Im feeling really crap still and this cough an sort throat is really bad.........but you know me....I dont complain..........SHUT IT KAY!!!!:-5Take care Everyone and lots of love to Everyone
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MY GOD WOMAN YA NEVER STOP COMPLAINING :yh_rotfl:-4

Going to miss ya Gill ,hope your not off for tooooooo long girlfriend, luv ya,......AND THE WAR WILL CONTINUE WHEN YOU COME BACK:D
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Wow threads gone mad again! bet it dies a death now im not working the rest of the week:wah:

Lovley to see all the nice pics, and hsitory lessons from Gill:D Of course its making poor Kathy wish she was here lol.

carol, stop still for two minutes and look after yersel while ye poorly, you gonna wear yersel out woman:-4

Joan just to let you know im still thinking of you, as we all are:-4



Take care u lot, and beahve,,,,,,,,,,, i might be back! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx




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Its absolutley lashing down with rain here

HUbs has just finished painting my dining room area walls and up the stairs and landing. Its gross!!!:-5:-5 i hate the colour:mad:




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For carol:D





How Am I You Ask?



How am I you ask? Well I must say

I'll be fine as soon as this pain goes away

I'll be fine when I lose a few hundred pounds

and my cough isn't really as bad as it sounds

The sight in my eye will return they say

as soon as this pain in my head goes away

I guess I'll be able to hear again

but the doctor can't really tell me when

My teeth are ok all the bad ones fell out

And I could be walking if it weren't for the gout

but other than that I really feel fine

if only they'd fix this curve in my spine

How am I you ask well I'll tell you real quick

I was fine till you asked me but now I feel sick




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Good evening everyone. I am totally stuffed.....been very hot and humid today. Tomorrow a cool change coming.....cant wait.

Gill , Joan and Tony :-4

Love to you all and take care :-4
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There, what did i tell you!! as soon as im not working or busy, the thread dies a death:-5

Kay its very very cool here, and grey, and rainy:wah:

well hubby finished the painting and it looks no better to me ,,, yuk the colour is disgusting, i dont thikn it will be there long but i have said i'll leave for a while see if i get used to it.

take care everyone, hope you are all ok and happy.



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seeing as Gill is awol for the time being i thought i would put up a picture:D This is Penshaw Monument in Sunderland.



For many, Penshaw Monument is the sign that they are almost home, as it can be seen from many places in Tyne and Wear and County Durham. It was built in 1844 in honour of John George Lambton, the first Earl of Durham. The Monument stands 136 metres above sea level. It was designed to be a copy of the Theseion, the Temple of Hephaestus, in Athens. A rough path leads visitors up to the National Trust-owned Monument at any time, where there are stunning views.

At Night.



The attachment is a broader picture:D we used to go there a lot as children and have picnics, and at easter time thats where they have the egg rolling.

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Hello everybody, just a quick pop in, hope everybody's OK and Carol is getting better (don't think she could get much worse ! :wah:) Joan and Tony thinking about you both, and little Sophie of course. xxx

Kay thanks, but PLEASE stop nickin me high scores woman !

Kaz, hadn't realised you had this structure near you matey - rather majestic eh? Nice pics.

Here's a picture of my country retreat ( just for weekend breaks !) Belvoir Castle, the little cottage belonging to the Duke and Duchess of Rutland. Actually the Duke is the President of our canal society - Grantham Canal Restoration Society Ltd. (of which I'm Hon. Sec and my hubby Chris has just retired as the Society

Chairman).











View from the castle south, towards the village of Knipton (I think !)

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Hi Gill, yes and its true that we hold it as a landmark to say we are home. if travelling back from the souht as soon as you see it you say ahhh we're home!:D




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Yea Carols been too quite int she? Hope you havent got worse Carol:-4:-4







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kazalala;723227 wrote: Yea Carols been too quite int she? Hope you havent got worse Carol


Ah fanks Kaz and also for the poem:)I feel really crap....I cant even take anything for my throat as its just to painful and it burns.Im here at Chris's for an hour so had to pop on to say hi.I cant see me working tomorrow....rain anyway......but still have to go to vvvvvvvpv.I can hardly talk also........DONT BE RUDE I AINT WELL:rolleyes:......and if all that aint enough no bloody internet at home!!:-5.Miss our chats Gill an Kaz.Hope Everyone is keeping ok.Kay sooooooo glad its lovely an warm there:-5.Oh well a quick game then its home for me and a night infront of the tele grrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!Thinking of you Joan alsoxx.Hope everyone who comes here are keeping well....lots of love sentxxxxxxxx
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Carolly;723259 wrote: Ah fanks Kaz and also for the poem:)I feel really crap....I cant even take anything for my throat as its just to painful and it burns.Im here at Chris's for an hour so had to pop on to say hi.I cant see me working tomorrow....rain anyway......but still have to go to vvvvvvvpv.I can hardly talk also........DONT BE RUDE I AINT WELL......and if all that aint enough no bloody internet at home!!:-5.Miss our chats Gill an Kaz.Hope Everyone is keeping ok.Kay sooooooo glad its lovely an warm there.Oh well a quick game then its home for me and a night infront of the tele grrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!Thinking of you Joan alsoxx.Hope everyone who comes here are keeping well....lots of love sentxxxxxxxx


AW carol that must be hell for you not being able to talk:rolleyes: I promise if you drink hot water with 2 or 3 large spoonfuls of honey in ti will soothe your throat,,, try it:-4




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Hi Carol, sorry to hear you aint any better, you poor owd thing. :(

Seriously Carol, it's time you went to the Docs, I know you don't do 'Docs' but if he can give you something to take away the sore throat Mrs. that's gotta be better than suffering like you must be doing. You could be like that for bloody days woman. Just think, Carol, aren't you supposed to be doing a CD in December ? That's only 3 or 4 weeks time FFS woman. Just blinkin think about it. :thinking: :-4
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Fanks Guysxxx Oh I will try that Kaz in a minute theres a jar of honey here.Gill I will be ok......best Im like this now then hopefully I will be ok to do my CD at Xmas.....oh boy Im looking forward to it.Songs so far are....Your My World.....Maybe This Time.....Move Over Darling.......Sailor.......Never, Never, Never.....I Who Have Nothing......It Must Be Him..........and er....dunno:wah:.Really miss you twoxxxx
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Carolly;723278 wrote: Fanks Guysxxx Oh I will try that Kaz in a minute theres a jar of honey here.Gill I will be ok......best Im like this now then hopefully I will be ok to do my CD at Xmas.....oh boy Im looking forward to it.Songs so far are....Your My World.....Maybe This Time.....Move Over Darling.......Sailor.......Never, Never, Never.....I Who Have Nothing......It Must Be Him..........and er....dunno:wah:.Really miss you twoxxxx


Looking forward to it Carol:D




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Carolly;723278 wrote: Fanks Guysxxx Oh I will try that Kaz in a minute theres a jar of honey here.Gill I will be ok......best Im like this now then hopefully I will be ok to do my CD at Xmas.....oh boy Im looking forward to it.Songs so far are....Your My World.....Maybe This Time.....Move Over Darling.......Sailor.......Never, Never, Never.....I Who Have Nothing......It Must Be Him..........and er....dunno:wah:.Really miss you twoxxxx




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Fanks guysxxxxxxx
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Sorry Carol, I'm second in the Bubble Shooter !!!!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_kiss
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G#Gill;723289 wrote: Sorry Carol, I'm second in the Bubble Shooter !!!!yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_kissYOU WAIT TILL IM BETTER MRS AND ME INTERNETS BACK..YER IN BIGGGGGGG TROUBLE EX FRIEND!!!!!:-5:rolleyes:
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IM GONNA KILL ER!!!!:-5:-5:mad:
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HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:-4
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See what I have to put up with.....Im ill.....got no internet.....feeling really crappy....look orrible AND if all that aint enough bleedin rent a gob has gone past me on me favourite game........now let me fink how Im gonna kill er.............:cool:does she know me second name is Mafia Bird:rolleyes:
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