Why is Mahmoud Abbas the Beast of Revelation 13?

ephraim · Post by **ephraim** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:41 am

Why is Mahmoud Abbas the Beast of Revelation 13?

The most important issue that must be resolved in discovering the

meaning of Revelation 13 is which people are being discussed.

If the wrong people are associated with the prophecies of Revelation

13 its answer can never be found. The people being referred to in

Revelation 13 are the Palestinians. Once this is decided three questions

have to be answered; why, how and who.

Why do the Palestinian people lack the ability to buy and sell?

Due to the Hamas takeover of the Palestinian Government,

Western Aid was discontinued.

How will the Palestinian people receive funds in order to buy and sell?

Through a program called the Temporary International Mechanism

that bypasses the Hamas controlled Palestinian Authority. This program

was established on Friday June 16, 2006. This date 6/16/06 represents

the day that one man was allowed to administer a program that paid the

salaries of his people. This is an amazing coincidence. There are only

three days in ten years that end with three sixes; June 6, June 16, and

June 26.

Who will provide these salaries to the Palestinians?

Salaries will be paid through the office of Mahmoud Abbas.

Also, what group will be prevented from getting money because they did

not receive the mark?

Hamas boycotted the Election of Mahmoud Abbas in January 2005;

therefore they did not receive the indelible ink mark to their right hands.

All salaries are being given to Fatah, the party of Mahmoud Abbas.

Hamas will not honor the image of Mahmoud Abbas. The image of

Mahmoud Abbas is required by the international community to continue

peace talks with Israel. This image is three items that represent Abbas

and his Government; the honoring of all prior Palestinian agreements

with Israel, the renunciation of terror as a means to an end, and a two-

state solution based on the 1967 borders prior to the six-day war.

Three items point to the Beast of Revelation 13: his mark, his number

and his name. WOEphraim

Sheryl · Post by **Sheryl** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:51 am

Ummm....isn't the beast/antichrist supposed to be of Roman descent?? :wah:

Post by **spot** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:51 am

That's nice.

Is the Beast of Revelation 13 a fundamentally beneficial aspect of creation or is he, on balance, a liability? I don't think we've had one before (though I may be wrong there) so it's not easy to know in advance unless you're a Revelations Bestiary expert.

Post by **spot** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:59 am

Sheryl;720068 wrote: Ummm....isn't the beast/antichrist supposed to be of Roman descent?? :wah:That'll be one of the other Beasts I expect.

I found a picture of him receiving his instructions from Beast Central Casting though:

Shouldn't the thread be in Current Events?

Sheryl · Post by **Sheryl** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:56 am

:wah::wah:

but spot..according to the web. Barrak Obama is supposed to be the antichrist.

Post by **spot** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:55 pm

That's a technical term, Sheryl. I'm not sure what one of those is.

What I do find interesting is that the appearance of the Beast of Revelation 13 is an immediate harbinger of the second coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Yay, I hear you cry. Just so, I respond. I've always wanted to fire some sort of grenade, mortar or cannon at the physical body of the Son of God and it would seem I finally have a good chance of doing just that. I'm not sure where the recruiting office for the Powers of Darkness are but I'm open to offers.

Post by **spot** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:22 pm

Well ephraim, I've been and checked. Your identification of Mahmoud Abbas as the Beast of Revelation 13 is so obviously correct that merely by publishing it you've triggered the onset of the end-time entirely on your own. Several cities of the plain will erect statues in your honour when all the dust settles.

There's a battle still to be fought before then at at the head of the pass through the Carmel Ridge approaching Jerusalem from the Golan Heights. Revelations 16:16 refers to the location as Armageddon.

There will, of course, be a whole stack of Christians laying waste the forces of darkness - that at least is the interpretation I get from the final enthralling chapters. Who, though, are the enemy making the last stand on behalf of Satan and all his little imps of torment? I worked that out too but it took a while. It's the US Marine Corps backed by some very effete satanists from the Paris Commune. The satanists are there on principle. The US Marine Corps is there defending the Constitution against the imposition of a thousand year Monarchy on US soil. I'm with the Marines on this one so long as they give me a rocket launcher and a good location to take a shot at Jesus when the clouds part.

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:42 pm

LOL

Actually the book of Revelation is not a prophesy about the future but was a document written by John, whomever he was, castigating the than existent Roman Empire.

That being said this John as well as many of the Christians of the day including Jesus himself thought that they were living in the end times and that the Day of the Lord was imminent. Alas here we are some 2000 years later still waiting.

Shalom

Ted:-6

AussiePam · Post by **AussiePam** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:48 pm

There's a few Russians dug into a snow cave who think it's not going to be too long now..

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:53 pm

AussiePam:-6

I've been on a holiday for a week but did notice on the front of a newspaper that issue.

Also my computer died a few weeks ago and my son had to replace the power supply so I am now back on line.

Shalom

Ted:-6

ephraim · Post by **ephraim** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:52 pm

Question:

The beast of Revelation 13 is associated with various items by which

he can be identified. One of these is:

" And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies,

and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months".

How did Mahmoud Abbas fulfill this prophecy? How would you fit the 42

months time period, as used by John, in the life of Mahmoud Abbas?

Answer:

Mahmoud Abbas does not fulfill this 42 month prophecy, Yasser Arafat does.

The first beast of Revelation and the little horn was Yasser Arafat. The 42

months were fulfilled in the first three and a half years of the Oslo

Accords. This happened between 1993 and 1997. Negotiations were going

well and both sides were making progress during this time. Arafat's leadership

seemed to be providing results as Israel continued to transfer

land and security control back to the Palestinians. In the second half of the

seven years that ended in Sept. 2000, the good will began to break down

and terrorism stifled the whole process. The second intifada started, shortly

after the failure at Camp David, and not much has happened every since.

Naturally, when Yasser Arafat died in November of 2004, he had to be

replaced. Mahmoud Abbas became that replacement. He stepped into the

position of the first beast simply by being elected Palestinian President.

The second beast of Revelation entered the picture when Hamas won the

the elections of Jan. 2006. When Hamas won the election, the Government

of the Palestinian Authority became the two-horned second beast. These

two horns represent two kings within the same Palestinian Authority that do

not agree on the image of Mahmoud Abbas.

This image of Mahmoud Abbas and his Government are three issues that

represent the old Palestinian Authority. These must be implemented to allow

a peace process to continue with Israel. Hamas must recognize Israel,

abide by old agreements and renounce terrorism. This is the image of Abbas;

the second beast of Revelation. If these ideas are not followed, honored or

worshipped; those individuals will be killed. This is happening to Hamas daily.

I added the word worshipped here because that is the word used by the King

James Bible translators. It also means to honor.

Now combined with the first post, beyond a shadow of a doubt, Abbas is

that second beast and he has fulfilled the prophecy of 666 as I have described.

Thanks for your question, anonymous.

WOEphraim

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:14 pm

According to Bible scholars the beast 666 was a reference to Nero.

Shalom

Ted:-6

Post by **spot** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:44 pm

ephraim;758569 wrote: Now combined with the first post, beyond a shadow of a doubt, Abbas is that second beast and he has fulfilled the prophecy of 666 as I have described.

Ephraim, I have a minor question if you could perhaps address it for me. Why are you telling us this? Are we meant to approve more of Mahmoud Abbas? Suddenly disapprove of him? Send him money donations? Pray for his downfall? Give us a consequence or two.

ephraim · Post by **ephraim** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:12 pm

spot;758582 wrote: Ephraim, I have a minor question if you could perhaps address it for me. Why are you telling us this? Are we meant to approve more of Mahmoud Abbas? Suddenly disapprove of him? Send him money donations? Pray for his downfall? Give us a consequence or two.

Based on your prior responses and the condescending way this

question is asked, I will decline and let someone else answer.

I'll bet anyone can answer this question. If someone can post

any answer that even looks half-way correct I'll give my approval.

Ephraim

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:25 pm

Sorry about that, wrong beast.

The beast in Ch. 13 is the Roman Empire.

Shalom

Ted:-6

Clint · Post by **Clint** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:22 pm

This is going to upset 7,123 other people who have each identified their favorite Beast. I vote for Prince Charles... or somebody else.

Post by **spot** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:03 pm

Hey, stop with the negativity. The Beast of Revelation 13 is Mahmoud Abbas, that's a given. What we need to know is how we ought to react to the news. Mahmoud Abbas presumably ought to be told, too - he might not know yet. I believe we can write to him atBeast of Revelation 13

Palestinian National Authority

Al Quds-Nablus Street

Ramallah

PalestineDear President Abbas,

Congratulations on your promotion by Christian Fundamentalists to this exciting new position. We wish you all good fortune in your coming conflict with the Forces of Righteousness. Please let us know if we can be of any assistance.

Yours sincerely,

The Occupants of FG Thread 32865.

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:21 pm

Clint/Spot:-6

What can I say? Both posts are funny.

I wonder if my cat counts.

Shalom

Ted:-6

Clint · Post by **Clint** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:57 pm

spot;758635 wrote: Hey, stop with the negativity. The Beast of Revelation 13 is Mahmoud Abbas, that's a given. What we need to know is how we ought to react to the news. Mahmoud Abbas presumably ought to be told, too - he might not know yet. I believe we can write to him atBeast of Revelation 13

Palestinian National Authority

Al Quds-Nablus Street

Ramallah

PalestineDear President Abbas,

Congratulations on your promotion by Christian Fundamentalists to this exciting new position. We wish you all good fortune in your coming conflict with the Forces of Righteousness. Please let us know if we can be of any assistance.

Yours sincerely,

The Occupants of FG Thread 32865.

"You're it!" has never been more appropriate.

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:03 pm

Abbas can't be the beast in Rev. 13 since he is alive today and the beast in Rev. 13 is the Roman Empire.

Either that or Abbas is extremely old. LOL

Shalom

Ted:-6

ephraim · Post by **ephraim** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:44 pm

There once was a worker named Blind. He was a hard worker and admired by many.

While he was working one day his job called for him to dig a hole, others had to dig

also. He dug his hole better and faster than all the rest of his peers and was much

valued by his employer. As time went by his fellow employees began to become

jealous of him and started to ignore him. Well it was another day and this time another

hole to be dug. While Blind was digging he came across something foreign in the soil.

It appeared to be a box, old in color with a padlock. There was some writing on the box,

but Blind could not read it. Also, he was beginning to fall behind in his digging and didn't

want to appear lazy. Therefore, without looking into the box he just covered it up and went

somewhere else to dig. Meanwhile, a bright young lad and lassie saw the partially dug

hole and thought, wow we can dig here, as we already have a good start. Very soon after

they started digging they also came across the box. Their curiousity got the best of them

so they began to unearth the little chest and bring it to the surface. Well, it was so old the

lock just fell off and the box was open in a minute.

As soon as the box was open they could not believe their eyes. It had gold and silver,

precious stones and ancient writings and they were very happy. Soon after the box had

opened, the employees stopped working to see what the excitement was all about.

The employer decided to investigate also as he noticed his job was not getting done.

What he found pleased him to his very soul. A treasure that had been lost for hundreds of

years was found and all the employees were very happy, with the exception of one.

Blind quickly became jealous because he was the first one to find the box.

He covered it up because he knew his employer was a strict man and didn't like laziness.

He began to cause a disturbance and accuse the others of stealing what was rightfully his.

The boss became very angry and finally fired Blind and sent him home never to come back.

And what is the moral of the story? Ephraim

Clint · Post by **Clint** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:29 pm

ephraim;760291 wrote: There once was a worker named Blind. He was a hard worker and admired by many.

While he was working one day his job called for him to dig a hole, others had to dig

also. He dug his hole better and faster than all the rest of his peers and was much

valued by his employer. As time went by his fellow employees began to become

jealous of him and started to ignore him. Well it was another day and this time another

hole to be dug. While Blind was digging he came across something foreign in the soil.

It appeared to be a box, old in color with a padlock. There was some writing on the box,

but Blind could not read it. Also, he was beginning to fall behind in his digging and didn't

want to appear lazy. Therefore, without looking into the box he just covered it up and went

somewhere else to dig. Meanwhile, a bright young lad and lassie saw the partially dug

hole and thought, wow we can dig here, as we already have a good start. Very soon after

they started digging they also came across the box. Their curiousity got the best of them

so they began to unearth the little chest and bring it to the surface. Well, it was so old the

lock just fell off and the box was open in a minute.

As soon as the box was open they could not believe their eyes. It had gold and silver,

precious stones and ancient writings and they were very happy. Soon after the box had

opened, the employees stopped working to see what the excitement was all about.

The employer decided to investigate also as he noticed his job was not getting done.

What he found pleased him to his very soul. A treasure that had been lost for hundreds of

years was found and all the employees were very happy, with the exception of one.

Blind quickly became jealous because he was the first one to find the box.

He covered it up because he knew his employer was a strict man and didn't like laziness.

He began to cause a disturbance and accuse the others of stealing what was rightfully his.

The boss became very angry and finally fired Blind and sent him home never to come back.

And what is the moral of the story? Michael777
Blind men aren’t recognizing treasures you have the sight to reveal to them. The day will come when the blind men will want the treasure but they will be sent away without any reward. So we are supposed to accept you as a man of vision and listen to you or we will not get our eternal reward¦right?

Post by **spot** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:30 pm

I will post the answer in a week. C'mon give it a try. Today is Jan. 19. So let's say next Saturday.

ephraim · Post by **ephraim** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:58 pm

Clint;760305 wrote: Blind men aren’t recognizing treasures you have the sight to reveal to them. The day will come when the blind men will want the treasure but they will be sent away without any reward.

Pretty close on this part. The part I am not quoting is wrong. Ephraim

Clint · Post by **Clint** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:19 pm

ephraim;760317 wrote: Pretty close on this part. The part I am not quoting is wrong. Ephraim

Help me here¦how do you separate the first part from the second? In the first part you say you have the vision to see things others don’t. It simply follows that if we don’t accept your vision and listen to you we won’t get the reward

ephraim · Post by **ephraim** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:33 pm

Clint;760328 wrote: Help me here¦how do you separate the first part from the second? In the first part you say you have the vision to see things others don’t. It simply follows that if we don’t accept your vision and listen to you we won’t get the reward

Your belief or disbelief in what I say won't separate you from your reward.

You will get what's coming to you. You fail to see the treasure. Ephraim

Clint · Post by **Clint** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:47 pm

ephraim;760333 wrote: Your belief or disbelief in what I say won't separate you from your reward.

You will get what's coming to you. You fail to see the treasure. Ephraim

Is it possible I just don't see the treasure you see in the same way you see it? Don't let your envy of Judah blind you with ambition.