proud to be a rottie owner

neffy · Post by **neffy** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:19 am

Found this on the net just wanted to share it with you all

neffy · Post by **neffy** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:23 am

bump red you would like this

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:35 pm

I loved that Neffers!! :-4

neffy · Post by **neffy** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:41 am

thank you scrat i have 2 and they are adoable i love them so much x

henrychalder · Post by **henrychalder** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:21 am

Aren't you taking this 'rottie' thing a bit too serious?

Is it a replacement for not having children?

Zaf · Post by **Zaf** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:32 am

dogs are much better than children!!

neffy · Post by **neffy** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:15 am

henrychalder;687972 wrote: Aren't you taking this 'rottie' thing a bit too serious?

Is it a replacement for not having children?

i have got childern,but thanks for you reply

neffy · Post by **neffy** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:17 am

Zaf;687975 wrote: dogs are much better than children!!

:wah::wah: at times but sometimes worse little buggers

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:25 am

I really don't like owning pets who can out eat me and out crap me. I also tried this with my children but they keep out growing me. Whats a dad to do?:wah:

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:53 am

henrychalder;687972 wrote: Aren't you taking this 'rottie' thing a bit too serious?

Is it a replacement for not having children?

Out of bounds.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:56 am

RedGlitter;688028 wrote: Out of bounds.

Don't fret him Red he is just a stirrer for stirring sakes.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:57 am

YZGI;688034 wrote: Don't fret him Red he is just a stirrer for stirring sakes.

Thanks YZ.

neffy · Post by **neffy** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:41 am

hey red..............ROTTIES ARE COOL :wah::wah:

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:43 am

henrychalder;687972 wrote: Aren't you taking this 'rottie' thing a bit too serious?

Is it a replacement for not having children?

That's a very nasty thing for you to say. Let's be civil around here:(

henrychalder · Post by **henrychalder** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:39 pm

neffy;687935 wrote: thank you scrat i have 2 and they are adoable i love them so much x

Yes, I have adorable memories of two rotties too.

I once wandered onto farm land when I got lost. I was on a path, in the distance I could see a woman pushing a pram with two rotties and a jack russell. I went toward her to ask for directions, I saw the two rotties coming toward me and the woman was shouting a name of one of the rotties, it was then I knew one had a problem.. the biggest of the two. It attacked me by trying to head butt me and bowl me over, the other thought about it but just growled, I knew it was futile to run so I just stood perfectly still with my arms raised up. The rotties started to stalk me and circle me and the biggest bit me on the backside, I felt the warm blood running down my leg and thought I was going to be dog meat when all of a sudden the jack russell jumped on top of the biggest rottie biting its neck. The rottie turned its attack on the Jack Russell and had its jaws around the poor jack russell.. shook it like a rag doll and tossed it in the air. The woman screamed at me to stop the killing of the jack russell but I used the situation to run and jump on top of a car. The woman screamed at me and called me a coward to which I answered, 'no way! I'm going to report this attack to the police'..it made me wonder? if I were a small child I'd probably be dead now.

After going to hospital and receiving stitches to my backside I reported it to the police, I told them of the farm it took place and the name of the dog the woman called out. The police opened a book on dog attacks and this particular dog had no end of attacks and that the owners was told it had to be locked away, despite that the police told me that I would have to take a civil action against the owner..seeing as I was self employed I didn't bother and went to work the following day feeling a bit sore to the amusement of my work mates.

A few months later I attended a dog show where my own dog was entered for a speed competition, whilst there I saw a large rottie on a lead, the woman owner saw me lurch away from the dog but she assured me her rottie was such a wonderful dog it wouldn't hurt a fly, so I went over to stroke, to my horror the rottie went for me, luckily the owner had a tight reign on the dog and just managed to keep it under control, she seemed surprised that her dog tried to attack me..from that day on I've never trusted rotties.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:42 pm

Maybe you shouldn't have approached the woman to start with since the dogs were obviously going to be protective of the baby and saw you as a threat to it.

No doubt you gave off a bad vibe in the second situation due to your first experience.

With animals you have to think before you act. Many people don't and then blame the animal for being an animal.

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:57 pm

I had to put 3 Rotties down. The oldest 2 were before they were 5 years old......lymphoma........an inbred disease. The 3rd ate some Hiacyth bulbs from the garden........killed her inside 2 weeks..........she bled out through her intestines at 3 months old. My 2 older Rotties trained my Kayla mix breed to run the fence line, potty trained her, and made sure Kayla loved her humans. Kayla trained my new dog (1 year old) to run the fence line. Kayla is about at the end of her life............:-1 she is 14. She handed down dog training to the new dog...Yanna. I think Yanna will be very sad when kayla dies.

neffy · Post by **neffy** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:58 pm

henrychalder;688482 wrote: Yes, I have adorable memories of two rotties too.

I once wandered onto farm land when I got lost. I was on a path, in the distance I could see a woman pushing a pram with two rotties and a jack russell. I went toward her to ask for directions, I saw the two rotties coming toward me and the woman was shouting a name of one of the rotties, it was then I knew one had a problem.. the biggest of the two. It attacked me by trying to head butt me and bowl me over, the other thought about it but just growled, I knew it was futile to run so I just stood perfectly still with my arms raised up. The rotties started to stalk me and circle me and the biggest bit me on the backside, I felt the warm blood running down my leg and thought I was going to be dog meat when all of a sudden the jack russell jumped on top of the biggest rottie biting its neck. The rottie turned its attack on the Jack Russell and had its jaws around the poor jack russell.. shook it like a rag doll and tossed it in the air. The woman screamed at me to stop the killing of the jack russell but I used the situation to run and jump on top of a car. The woman screamed at me and called me a coward to which I answered, 'no way! I'm going to report this attack to the police'..it made me wonder? if I were a small child I'd probably be dead now.

After going to hospital and receiving stitches to my backside I reported it to the police, I told them of the farm it took place and the name of the dog the woman called out. The police opened a book on dog attacks and this particular dog had no end of attacks and that the owners was told it had to be locked away, despite that the police told me that I would have to take a civil action against the owner..seeing as I was self employed I didn't bother and went to work the following day feeling a bit sore to the amusement of my work mates.

A few months later I attended a dog show where my own dog was entered for a speed competition, whilst there I saw a large rottie on a lead, the woman owner saw me lurch away from the dog but she assured me her rottie was such a wonderful dog it wouldn't hurt a fly, so I went over to stroke, to my horror the rottie went for me, luckily the owner had a tight reign on the dog and just managed to keep it under control, she seemed surprised that her dog tried to attack me..from that day on I've never trusted rotties.

well at the end of the day it was not my rotts and i am sorry for your bad time but like all dogs you always have to be carful how you approch them

henrychalder · Post by **henrychalder** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:54 am

henrychalder;687972 wrote: Aren't you taking this 'rottie' thing a bit too serious?

Is it a replacement for not having children?

It has been suggested that Americans lack a certain sense of British humour, they find it difficult to understand.

I dont think the originator of this thread was at all offended but its interesting for me to see the reaction from our American friends to this comment.

and why do I keep seeing the word humour underlined as a spelling mistake?

Sometimes likewise we dont understand American humour

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:08 am

henrychalder;688639 wrote: It has been suggested that Americans lack a certain sense of British humour, they find it difficult to understand.

I dont think the originator of this thread was at all offended but its interesting for me to see the reaction from our American friends to this comment.

and why do I keep seeing the word humour underlined as a spelling mistake?

Sometimes likewise we dont understand American humour

I could be wrong, but I think it could have been a case of words not translating well without benefit of voice. That happens often here. And probably in any forum.

I missed several things in the Family Guy cartoon but I know I don't understand British humor too well- maybe you could explain Benny Hill to me. :wah: On the other hand, I loved Are You being Served?

Apparently the spell checker relies on the American spellings of certain words? It must not be used to using the "u."

Zaf · Post by **Zaf** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:08 am

henrychalder;688482 wrote: Yes, I have adorable memories of two rotties too.

I once wandered onto farm land when I got lost. I was on a path, in the distance I could see a woman pushing a pram with two rotties and a jack russell. I went toward her to ask for directions, I saw the two rotties coming toward me and the woman was shouting a name of one of the rotties, it was then I knew one had a problem.. the biggest of the two. It attacked me by trying to head butt me and bowl me over, the other thought about it but just growled, I knew it was futile to run so I just stood perfectly still with my arms raised up. The rotties started to stalk me and circle me and the biggest bit me on the backside, I felt the warm blood running down my leg and thought I was going to be dog meat when all of a sudden the jack russell jumped on top of the biggest rottie biting its neck. The rottie turned its attack on the Jack Russell and had its jaws around the poor jack russell.. shook it like a rag doll and tossed it in the air. The woman screamed at me to stop the killing of the jack russell but I used the situation to run and jump on top of a car. The woman screamed at me and called me a coward to which I answered, 'no way! I'm going to report this attack to the police'..it made me wonder? if I were a small child I'd probably be dead now.

After going to hospital and receiving stitches to my backside I reported it to the police, I told them of the farm it took place and the name of the dog the woman called out. The police opened a book on dog attacks and this particular dog had no end of attacks and that the owners was told it had to be locked away, despite that the police told me that I would have to take a civil action against the owner..seeing as I was self employed I didn't bother and went to work the following day feeling a bit sore to the amusement of my work mates.

A few months later I attended a dog show where my own dog was entered for a speed competition, whilst there I saw a large rottie on a lead, the woman owner saw me lurch away from the dog but she assured me her rottie was such a wonderful dog it wouldn't hurt a fly, so I went over to stroke, to my horror the rottie went for me, luckily the owner had a tight reign on the dog and just managed to keep it under control, she seemed surprised that her dog tried to attack me..from that day on I've never trusted rotties.

any dog will sense fear or apprehension, thats almost certainly the reason you were bitten, most rotties are cuddle monsters and wouldnt hurt a fly - honestly

neffy · Post by **neffy** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:04 pm

very well said zaf,i started this thread because my friends on here know how much my two rotts mean to me,and it is something i like to share.Even Zaf who is quite new seems to understand my posting,

LilacDragon · Post by **LilacDragon** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:50 pm

jimbo;688867 wrote: proud of what exactly ... my dog could rip you to shreds ... but i'm in control of it ... in all you you must respect me or else i may set my dogs on you ... really :rolleyes::rolleyes:

I suppose you believe everything you read in the press - or is it just about dogs?

Rottwielers are used across North America as Search and Rescue dogs, therapy dogs and have other jobs that are quite useful to their human owners and wouldn't consider putting their teeth on a human being.

From everything that I have read, Neffy has every right to be proud of her dogs - which are well-raised, well cared for and of a temperment that makes them good canine citizens of their community.

The dog pictured above wouldn't have put her teeth on a person if I had opened her mouth and put someone's arm in it.

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:31 pm

Hello to Neffy, Red and Sandi,

I honestly think that these dogs are powerful and beautiful. But, for some unknown reason to me, I am petrified of all dogs. I honestly don't know why, and it's bothering me terribly. I'm thinking about getting therapy over this fear. I know that dogs sense that I'm afraid of them, and that's not good.

But, I do love dogs. My sis bought a beautiful shelty, and I adore her and babysit often. When I was a child we weren't able to have pets due to members in the home having asthma....maybe that's why...no exposure to dogs. I love cats but could never have one after my cat,Foxy, made my family member so sick.

But, I do watch Cesar of "Dog Whisperer" all the time. Maybe I should call him and be on his show.....Duh, I have to have a dog first, right:-5

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:57 pm

Scrat;688916 wrote: Get a Chihuahua.

Aren't they yappers and bitters??? They are around here.:wah:

LilacDragon · Post by **LilacDragon** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:10 pm

Kathy Ellen;688917 wrote: Aren't they yappers and bitters??? They are around here.:wah:

Yep! My mom has 2! One is fabulous - the other one is a nippy little bugger.

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:15 pm

LilacDragon;688920 wrote: Yep! My mom has 2! One is fabulous - the other one is a nippy little bugger.:wah:

Hiya sweety. :-4

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:28 pm

LilacDragon;688920 wrote: Yep! My mom has 2! One is fabulous - the other one is a nippy little bugger.

Hi Lilac,

Know you, but don't think I've ever had the opportunity to say hello:-6, It's good to see you.

The little stud muffins ( 4 cuttie young guys) who lived next door to me had 3 little pups and didn't really know how to take care of them. They would leave them alone all day in a big front yard in a busy area. Well, the little chic was the ring leader, all gussied up to the nines leading the back (rottie & pug). They would strut around all day with no supervision. The dogs were so annoying because they weren't trained and cared for and became bullies. Unfortunately, they were stolen or ran away.

Even though the boys really loved their dogs, they didn't understand the responsibility that they had towards their dogs...so sad.

neffy · Post by **neffy** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:01 am

jimbo;688867 wrote: proud of what exactly ... my dog could rip you to shreds ... but i'm in control of it ... in all you you must respect me or else i may set my dogs on you ... really :rolleyes::rolleyes:

henrychalder · Post by **henrychalder** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:30 am

Incidentally, what a great film 'snatch' was and wasn't 'bricktop' acted and played well. I watched an American film that tried to copy the style, 'smoking aces', it was an awful film that tried to be humorous, I couldn't understand half of what was said, it was a sort of negroid bastardised English, we found it really stupid and unwatchable.

In the film 'snatch', bricktop made the phrase...'never fall out with a man that keeps pigs', and then went on to explain how easily pigs eat people.

That senario came from a man called 'big H' (Harry Mackinney) who was a hit man for the east end underworld. He would assassinate the opposition, cut them up, put them through an industrial mincing machine in a flat in east London then feed the remains to pigs, his last victims were the Brett family. 'Big H' was a friend of my Uncle and buddy diving partner. Amazingly although 'Big H' was sent to prison in the 60s, he has recently been released on appeal...lol

Zaf · Post by **Zaf** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:25 am

Scrat;688915 wrote: No, not any dog will sense fear and apprehension. Dogs do not sense a persons emotions, they are not psychics. They read body language and refer to a template they know. Smell plays a role too.

If a dog is aggressive towards a person it is because many different things, posture of the human ect and even the mood of the dog. Never stare an agressive dog in the eyes, that is a challenge, unless you think you can take him. A good approach I have been taught by a friend that knows shepards (military trained ones) is pretty straight forward and probably works fine for him. But for us?

If you are confronted by a hostile dog do not look it in the eyes or directly at it. Remember, you are in a CONFRONTATION not a FIGHT, yet. Keep your arms close and your legs shoulder width apart don't give him targets. Keep facing the dog, no matter what he does, a dog prefers to attack from the rear or side. Get to someplace where you have cover or he has limited access to you (get out of his territory if you can), arm yourself if you can, stick, rock, perfume, dirt.

If you are attacked it's a street fight, last man/dog standing wins. If you have a weapon hit him on the muzzle the eyes not the head or body kick them in the ribs or get your foot in the midsection to knock the wind out of him. If there's more than one dog you may be in deep chit.

Being a bikerider/walker I have been confronted more than once by dogs following his rules for a confrontation has never left me in a position to try out the second part. Although I did get in a fight at the dinner table one time.

apologies, it may have been badly worded, when I say sense I did not mean emotions (in fact does sense actually mean emotions?), I meant, body language, smell, attitude, knowing how to approach the dog - thats partly why many horse people use Pax with nervous horses as it masks the smell of any sweat on your palms. When I learned to ride as a child I was told that horses could sense fear down the reins, they certainly do whether you are handling, riding or driving them, in the latter case you arent actually in direct contact with the animal but at the end of several yards of rein, so they are either feeling something down the reins or able to smell something that alerts them to how the handler is feeling, they certainly arent sensing any fear or apprehension from body language or whether you are looking them in the eye!

Having owned dobermanns for many years I know that if someone is nervous of them they will react in a totally different way to someone who is confident with big dogs - Ive seen it many many times, and all my dobes were lovely kind and totally unagressive dogs, bred for temperment and brought up to be family companions rather than guard dogs

Zaf · Post by **Zaf** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:28 am

jimbo;688987 wrote: sorry just been jumped on by the nieghbours massive rottie

fortunate for me it decided to lick me ,the bloody great thing had a head like a lion :-5

i was to pized to run it put the fear of god into me ,i would not mind but the woman who takes it out does not put it on a lead and is about 5 foot tall if it had attacked me i would of been a goner

sadly I feel that most of the 'problems' caused by dogs are caused by their owners, there are a few breeds that have rage attacks but the various breed societies are working hard to combat that and eliminate the genes I believe.

A friend of mine had rotties and jrt's I only ever got bitten once and it was one of the jack russels that did it, and for no apparent reason, the rotties would sometimes knock me over in their enthusiasm but they were the most lovely gentle dogs anyone would want to meet

neffy · Post by **neffy** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:55 am

Zaf;689361 wrote: sadly I feel that most of the 'problems' caused by dogs are caused by their owners, there are a few breeds that have rage attacks but the various breed societies are working hard to combat that and eliminate the genes I believe.

A friend of mine had rotties and jrt's I only ever got bitten once and it was one of the jack russels that did it, and for no apparent reason, the rotties would sometimes knock me over in their enthusiasm but they were the most lovely gentle dogs anyone would want to meet

very ture

neffy · Post by **neffy** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:59 am

JJ took him for a nice long walk in a field near where i live