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coberst
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Humans seek to be more than animals. We seek to be gods or at least propagate that level above animal and just below God.

That which promotes life is good that which promotes death is evil. “Evil lies not in the hearts of men but in the social arrangements that men take for granted.

Wo/man lives a debased life under tyranny and self delusion because s/he does not comprehend the conditions of natural freedom. Sapiens need hope and belief in themselves; thus illusion is necessary if it is creative for life, but is evil if it promotes death.

A psychodynamic analysis of history displays saga of death, destruction, and coercion from the outside while inside we see self-delusion and self enslavement. We seek mystification. We seek transference; we seek hypnotists as our chosen leaders.

We seek the power to ward off big evil by reflexively embracing small terrors and small fascinations in the place of overwhelming ones.

Courage is the fundamental qualifying quality for being a hero. So, why are we all so naturally cowardly? Our goal is to be a hero and we lack the courage to be so.

We constantly struggle for a life that has meaning. All meaning for us is associated with that which comes to us from the outside. Our sense of self is derived by looking at others for determining who and what we are. “Our whole world of right and wrong, good and bad, our name, precisely who we are, is grafted into us; and we never feel we have authority to offer things on our own¦we feel ourselves in many ways guilty and beholden to others¦indebted to them for our very birth.

Abraham Maslow spoke of our being fearful of standing alone. We fear actualizing our potential. We have the urge to ‘be all we can be’ but we fear to attempt the fulfillment of this urge. “We fear our highest possibility¦we even thrill to the godlike possibilities we see in our self¦yet we simultaneously shiver with weakness. Maslow coined the phrase ‘Jonah Syndrome’ to mean the evasion of the full intensity of life.

The Jonah Syndrome is a justified fear of losing control and being torn apart—to even being killed by the experience of being all we can be. Otto Rank spoke of our natural feeling of inferiority in the face of the transcendence of life and creation.

Quotes from “The Denial of Death by Ernest Becker
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Coberst said: All meaning for us is associated with that which comes to us from the outside.



If we allow this to be true then the rest is true as well, and there is no hope. There is no lasting happiness to be found "out there". It is all ephemeral and does not not last. We are born, appear to flourish, wither and die. So the key is to find another source of meaning, another way of looking at the world. Nothing says we must accept that all meaning for comes from the outside. It no longer does for me and I am content much of the time. When I lapse back into my old ways of thinking (which I still do unfortunately) I become unhappy. Since this is not yet a discussion of where to alternatively find meaning I will refrain from comment on that. Suffice it to say is available to all in many forms and flavors IMO..



God has an anus? Gross!!!!!:yh_sick
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zinkyusa;591299 wrote: Coberst said: All meaning for us is associated with that which comes to us from the outside.



If we allow this to be true then the rest is true as well, and there is no hope. There is no lasting happiness to be found "out there". It is all ephemeral and does not not last. We are born, appear to flourish, wither and die. So the key is to find another source of meaning, another way of looking at the world. Nothing says we must accept that all meaning for comes from the outside. It no longer does for me and I am content much of the time. When I lapse back into my old ways of thinking (which I still do unfortunately) I become unhappy. Since this is not yet a discussion of where to alternatively find meaning I will refrain from comment on that. Suffice it to say is available to all in many forms and flavors IMO..



God has an anus? Gross!!!!!:yh_sick


I think that you are correct. We create our own meaning and it is this meaning that can modify our society as needed.

I think that the meaning that we badly need to do a complete do-over is our moral philosophy. It appears to me that if we do not quickly create a ‘science of man’ that can support the development of a secular moral code that has universal validity we are a species not long for this world.

Our big brains have armed us with a technology that can destroy all humanity. Up until about a hundred years ago sapiens could go around killing and destroying without the danger of eliminating the species. Such is no longer the case.
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coberst;591525 wrote: I think that you are correct. We create our own meaning and it is this meaning that can modify our society as needed.

I think that the meaning that we badly need to do a complete do-over is our moral philosophy. It appears to me that if we do not quickly create a ‘science of man’ that can support the development of a secular moral code that has universal validity we are a species not long for this world.

Our big brains have armed us with a technology that can destroy all humanity. Up until about a hundred years ago sapiens could go around killing and destroying without the danger of eliminating the species. Such is no longer the case.


I agree with you, but at the same time I think the only mind that we can develop a moral philosophy for is our own..just to tweak your statement a bit I would say we need encourage an environment of tolerance where each can find his/her own moral philosophy. I cannot do very much to affect society as an individual but i can change the way i look at the "world". Others may be attracted to this and begin to question for themselves, yes an attitude of attraction rather than promotion..;)
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