"Happy slapping". Stuff like that. A story to warm the cockles of yer 'eart:
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/localnew ... t_back.php
"A gang of teenagers attacked a man in a suspected happy-slapping incident in a busy shopping area.
But the incident turned against the youths as the man fought back and knocked one of them unconscious.
Two of the gang of eight 16 and 17- year-olds had to be taken to hospital and were later arrested."
The article is worth a look. I'm glad there still people about who will "have a go",
and people who will help!
Slap victim who fought back.
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Good, this has killed people. I hope they don't try to get him done, little brats.
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Those punks deserved it.
The poolhall's a great equalizer. In the poolhall, nobody cares how old you are, how young you are, what color your skin is or how much money you've got in your pocket... It's about how you move. I remember this kid once who could move around a pool table like nobody had ever seen. Hour after hour, rack after rack, his shots just went in. The cue was part of his arm and the balls had eyes. And the thing that made him so good was... He thought he could never miss. I know, 'cause that kid was me.
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Hi, I'm new but have been lurking for a month!
I saw a man slapped by a teenage boy in a tube opposite my platform when I was waiting for a train. Not a painful slap at all but certainly insulting and degrading.His girl friend, or girl with him looked as if she wasn't sure what her reaction was supposed to be. The man receiving it just sat there. it made me feel sick to my stomach and of course I felt powerless, by the time I could speak to anyone they would be away.
I like young people, I really do, but I struggle to understand how the country has got into this mess. I don't think a lack of adult intervention is the only answer. I feel it has to do with the state of our country and what young people feel is on offer for them - for many of them not a lot of what WE would hope they'd try for. So they turn to their own culture of bling,sick song lyrics and easier money and other ways to earn respect.
On entering a tube station once someone tried to double up behind me to get in the gate without paying , lad of about 17 and so I deliberately went slowly, I said " I don't think so" - he responded "YOU DON'T THINK SO" and slapped my hand. Not a hit - he could have drawn blood if he wanted to... but I felt so insulted. As we stood on opposite platforms to each other I motioned I was going to call someone on the phone and I called him a creep as he did it, but I felt unsatisfied that I hadn't resolved anything and would be advised to do nothing if it happened again, for my own safety. but it certainly makes you think thrice about having any kind of natural reaction when you feel you have been annoyed in any way. the message was very clear .... you are a feather and I have power over you.
Where I work, a nearby shop had a youngster in who tried to steal something and the person behind the counter gave him a slap but a passerby jumped to the lad's defence - lad was crying, probably to make his case even better actually, I can't imagine he would normally be want to be seen crying in public or maybe he WAS shocked at what happened. Have to say it was nice to see someone causing trouble crying when all around me I see , have been exposed to, and read about ,situations that make me want to cry and hide from these oiks. At 5'3" and light on my feet AND middle aged I'm not very imposing!!! Messy situation to get into for the shop worker though.
I wonder if the happy slapper guy would be in trouble if he hadn't had all those good folk stepping forward. I think he may have had a case against him otherwise.
I saw a man slapped by a teenage boy in a tube opposite my platform when I was waiting for a train. Not a painful slap at all but certainly insulting and degrading.His girl friend, or girl with him looked as if she wasn't sure what her reaction was supposed to be. The man receiving it just sat there. it made me feel sick to my stomach and of course I felt powerless, by the time I could speak to anyone they would be away.
I like young people, I really do, but I struggle to understand how the country has got into this mess. I don't think a lack of adult intervention is the only answer. I feel it has to do with the state of our country and what young people feel is on offer for them - for many of them not a lot of what WE would hope they'd try for. So they turn to their own culture of bling,sick song lyrics and easier money and other ways to earn respect.
On entering a tube station once someone tried to double up behind me to get in the gate without paying , lad of about 17 and so I deliberately went slowly, I said " I don't think so" - he responded "YOU DON'T THINK SO" and slapped my hand. Not a hit - he could have drawn blood if he wanted to... but I felt so insulted. As we stood on opposite platforms to each other I motioned I was going to call someone on the phone and I called him a creep as he did it, but I felt unsatisfied that I hadn't resolved anything and would be advised to do nothing if it happened again, for my own safety. but it certainly makes you think thrice about having any kind of natural reaction when you feel you have been annoyed in any way. the message was very clear .... you are a feather and I have power over you.
Where I work, a nearby shop had a youngster in who tried to steal something and the person behind the counter gave him a slap but a passerby jumped to the lad's defence - lad was crying, probably to make his case even better actually, I can't imagine he would normally be want to be seen crying in public or maybe he WAS shocked at what happened. Have to say it was nice to see someone causing trouble crying when all around me I see , have been exposed to, and read about ,situations that make me want to cry and hide from these oiks. At 5'3" and light on my feet AND middle aged I'm not very imposing!!! Messy situation to get into for the shop worker though.
I wonder if the happy slapper guy would be in trouble if he hadn't had all those good folk stepping forward. I think he may have had a case against him otherwise.
Slap victim who fought back.
Interesting isn't it. Well as always in human societies, the carrot and stick approach is the only long term strategy that actually works: be nice, reward, be unpleasant, punished, (and not a stern ticking off, a meaningful punishment, like a box in the face), children especially are at an age where they test limits and in general have little respect unless it is instructed into them directly, otherwise they quite rightly assume they can do what they want, which they proceed to do so. Ultimately adults are responsible for instructing children, and if we have raised a generation of violent thuggish monsters, then we only have ourselves to blame, and we should reassess our value systems a little. Not all children are like this, but there definetly many who are like this, its too late for them, but the younger ones coming up now can be given better life instruction, and hopefully grow in more obidient teenagers and more pleasant human beings all round.
"We are never so happy, never so unhappy, as we imagine"
Le Rochefoucauld.
"A smack in the face settles all arguments, then you can move on kid."
My dad 1986.
Le Rochefoucauld.
"A smack in the face settles all arguments, then you can move on kid."
My dad 1986.
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The trouble is; personally, I don't know how to turn things around. the government I guess would do things if pushed, but sometimes these things are too piecemeal, splashes of cash as tester projects, good but not much better than band aids. I believe in prayer, but that alone wouldn't fix it. the trouble is, youngsters like their freedom and privacy, they mostly don't want to hang around with their family and I think the peer group plays a huge part.
Many Cities have CCTV but not a huge amount of officers to respond.
Thank you for posting I put a few things up just lately and there was a quiet spot for a few days which kinda embarrassed me!!
Many Cities have CCTV but not a huge amount of officers to respond.
Thank you for posting I put a few things up just lately and there was a quiet spot for a few days which kinda embarrassed me!!