New Ripper?

venus · Post by **venus** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:51 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6173755.stm

this too

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:22 pm

That Sutcliffe maniac- looking at that big photo in your link. Venus, even if I didn't now know he was a killer, I would think there was something not right with him. He has dead eyes. I just got a big case of the creeps!

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:21 am

Shock and fear in Ipswich ........from today's BBC online.

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:35 am

This is all very sad. Every victim so far has been hooked on drugs and become prostitues to pay for their habits. Some of the girls have kids......some of the families didn't know what their daughters were doing.....

If my memory serves me right, Sutcliffe murdered his victims over a number of years but this person has murdered probably 5 in a few weeks.

There are reportedly 30 prostitutes in Ipswich....they seem to know or know of each other. My half brother lives in Ipswich...it must be quite shocking and worrying for people who live there....if the murderer is targeting prostitutes NOW, who know when/if he might just hunt women in general....I guess the experts (profilers) will know about this.

At the moment, my heart goes out to the families of these girls....tragic waste of life and a truly horrible way to end it.

Don't know why, but I feel pretty emotional about this at the moment

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:39 am

i may well have missed it, have the police released how the women were killed and whether they were raped?

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:41 am

Diuretic;484612 wrote: Since prostitution is illegal

It's not illegal.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:43 am

It's not? What are the laws there, Bill? I'm just curious.

Post by **spot** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:45 am

RedGlitter;484633 wrote: It's not? What are the laws there, Bill? I'm just curious.

In the United Kingdom, prostitution is not formally illegal, but several activities surrounding it are outlawed. In England and Wales, the legal situation is:

for a prostitute to loiter or conduct solicitation in a street or public place is illegal, therefore outlawing street prostitution.

it is also illegal for a potential client to solicit persistently, or solicit from a motor vehicle ("kerb crawling").

owning or running a brothel is illegal.

child prostitution is specifically illegal for the person paying (where child is defined as younger than 18, although the age of consent is 16)

controlling prostitution for gain is an offence, banning pimping.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:55 am

RedGlitter;484633 wrote: It's not? What are the laws there, Bill? I'm just curious.

Prostitution *itself* isn't illegal - however, it is illegal to 'procure' a prostitute or

set up a brothel and live off 'immoral earnings' (pimps, madams), solicit in the

street or explicitly advertise as a prostitute.

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:00 am

lady cop;484600 wrote: i may well have missed it, have the police released how the women were killed and whether they were raped?

As far as I can tell from reading the newspapers, there was no sexual activity - they were just murdered -

Post by **spot** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:03 am

Bill Sikes;484640 wrote: or explicitly advertise as a prostitute.I'm not sure that's ever been illegal. Large Chest For Sale? Expert French Polishing Service? Swedish Lessons?

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:08 am

spot;484645 wrote: I'm not sure that's (advertising as a prostitute) ever been illegal. Large Chest For Sale? Expert French Polishing Service? Swedish Lessons?

They aren't - saying "Prostitute offers services" or similar is!

weinbeck · Post by **weinbeck** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:35 pm

abbey;484144 wrote: Those poor young girls have parents and siblings lost to this evil bastard.

Sooner he's caught the better,

the big worry is, he could move further afield!:(

Obviously I feel both for the victim and their family, but I feel doubly for the berieved family because of the vicious, callous deliberate remarks such as :Your daughter/sister/niece/cousin was a prostitute." I've got fairly broad shoulders but, God forbid, if it ever happened in my household, even though it were not my fault, I don't think I'd be able to take it. I'd probably change my name by deed poll, move, or both.

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:08 pm

LC I read earlier today that several have been suficated and strangled.:-1 He is getting bolder and most likely enjoys the press he is getting. I hope they come up with something fast or there will be many more bodies this guy is on a mission.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:58 pm

UK police admit strangler is out of control...

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:07 am

well the SUN says it's a fat guy in a BMW.

Tater Tazz · Post by **Tater Tazz** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:09 am

why do we assume its a him? could be a her. i heard they found clothes by were two of the bodies were found.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:13 am

Tater Tazz;485925 wrote: why do we assume its a him? could be a her. i heard they found clothes by were two of the bodies were found.from what i have read, and it could be misinformation in light of all the speculation, all the victims were found nude and no clothes have been found. serial killers like trophies, but i suspect that it's more about concealing any DNA, hair, fibers, whatever.

Tater Tazz · Post by **Tater Tazz** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:21 am

i heard they found these just the other day.

DesignerGal · Post by **DesignerGal** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:45 am

Call Dexter!

Post by **panto andy** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:21 am

Galbally;484105 wrote: God yes it is, whoever this guy is, he is on a rampage, its not nice at all. I hope that they catch him as quickly as possible, it doesn't bare thinking about otherwise. Very macabre.

at least its nice to see someone taking this column seriously crime is out of control

in our dear:-3 old england and justice is a joke.

things like this were rare in the 70s and 80s in the last 20 years this country has gone to the dogs.

Post by **panto andy** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:24 am

lady cop;485928 wrote: from what i have read, and it could be misinformation in light of all the speculation, all the victims were found nude and no clothes have been found. serial killers like trophies, but i suspect that it's more about concealing any DNA, hair, fibers, whatever.

lady cop.

do you have these kind of nutters on your patch?

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:33 am

panto andy;487195 wrote: lady cop.

do you have these kind of nutters on your patch?

yes, the US has had many of them, and florida, where i am, seems to get the most notorious...ted bundy, danny rolling, aileen waurnos, etc.

Post by **spot** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:04 pm

panto andy;487193 wrote: at least its nice to see someone taking this column seriously crime is out of control

in our dear:-3 old england and justice is a joke.

things like this were rare in the 70s and 80s in the last 20 years this country has gone to the dogs.That's just tosh, plain and simple. Rarer back in the good old days? Just go and check.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:07 pm

Yea panto, its tosh !

Post by **spot** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:10 pm

Nomad;487787 wrote: Yea panto, its tosh !

All I'm praying right now is that I don't have to post a whole slew of references to back up the fact, along with every other poster on site who's blenching at the prospect.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:21 pm

spot;487791 wrote: All I'm praying right now is that I don't have to post a whole slew of references to back up the fact, along with every other poster on site who's blenching at the prospect.

Just say football/soccer...that should shut him up.

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:06 pm

I don't know, but all I have to say is...

What the hell is wrong with people?...

What is their major malfunction?...

This sh*^ makes me sick to my stomach.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:35 am

Man held over prostitute murders

Police investigating the murders of five prostitutes in Suffolk arrest a 37-year-old man near Felixstowe.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:32 am

lady cop;489857 wrote: Man held over prostitute murders

Police investigating the murders of five prostitutes in Suffolk arrest a 37-year-old man near Felixstowe.in case nobody saw this.

Post by **Betty Boop** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:34 am

lady cop;489904 wrote: in case nobody saw this.

I saw the news, came here to post it and saw that you'd already got it covered!

Where do you live again! :wah:

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:56 am

I hear that on the radio, I like everyone else am hoping that he is the one, if he is then its good work. It was a bit creepy seeing that poor girl on the Harwich-Colchester train, I used to take it to work every morning in the mid-nineties, and it still looks the same. What a horrible case.

Raven · Post by **Raven** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:44 am

This guy is a serious loser. He isnt the same caliber as Sutcliffe or any of the really sick ones. He is a whiner. If it even IS him! C'mon the guy gave an interview to the mirror! (newspaper tabloid) Works at Tesco, has a myspace spot, and says he was like a boyfriend to one of the killed girls! Bet he was rejected by her, thats why he killed her! (if he even did!) I have some serious doubts over this guy. They say the cops interviewed him 4 times already! Hope they have some dna evidence on him!

Raven · Post by **Raven** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:53 am

LOL! I agree. The news is more like an episode of jerry springer! I think this guy is just an attention seeker. Do you think it's him? I seriously have my doubts.