TERRI SCHIAVO~remove feeding tube?

[Raven]

But where does it stop? Have you ever seen an incredibly severe case of cerebral palsy? It looks amazingly like Terry Shiavo. Are we going to cry 'suffer' and starve them to death too? Wait! what about all the others just like her? How do you know they are suffering? Do they look like they are hurting? Have you heard a child with cerebral palsy laugh? They have severe brain damage too, y'know. Are we such a picky society, that because we cant be bothered with caring for them, we deem them to be suffering, so we, under the guise of mercy, kill them?

[Beth]

I also feel squeemish about the starving her to death, I wish there was a humane and legal euthanasia that would make the process end so much quicker. It would be so much more humane.

I personally feel manipulated by Terri's family and the right to life movement after I read an unbiased report about the facts of the case. I do feel for the family, but they slandered a man in this fight. They should be ashamed of making accusations about abuse. Schiavo gave such good care to his wife that she never even had a bed sore. I take back most of my speculations about him and feel like an idiot for allowing myself to be manipulated.

I do hope the family can grieve and move on now. Shame that bulimia claimed the life of such a beautiful woman. Perhaps after the family grieves, they can address Terri's real killer, bulimia, and help raise awareness to save other young women from a similar fate.

[Raven]

Ah.....so thats it! I was wondering what caused her to have a heart attack at such a young age!

[Raven]

Scrat wrote: Raven.

Mercy. It's a whole field of philosophy in itself. Go read about it, Google it and contemplate it.

There is such a thing as mercy and it has a place in our world. Even if it's a hard thing to do.
Dude! I'm totally aware of the concept of mercy.

I'll forgive you your ignorance, in the fact that you dont know me at all.

I've seen REAL mercy at work in places you cant imagine!

[Raven]

Scrat wrote: Raven. I've seen starving children sitting on roadsides in Mozambique. Lets not go judging one another.

I apologize if I have misstepped this morning.
So.......did you feed them?

THATS MERCY!

apology accepted.

[David813]

Right On TW. The Bush thugs will now decide if your loved one passes or dies for 15 years. More Big Government from the Conservatives!! I LOVE the irony!

[kensloft]

TW2005 wrote: Obviously taking the tube out would be hard to do, but its a decision that should have been made a long time ago. Shes just lying there holding down the bed! Ive heard people say:

1. that she could eat if someone would feed her

2. that she could regain the brain power if someone would work her muscles

3. she could become normal again if.....4,5,6,7,8.

There have been a number of things I have heard but the problem is, NOBODY is doing these things. Ive heard this case for years on the news and I never hear about any one doing anything to help her except KEEP the tube in. So if nobody is willing to help her, why keep the tube in? My Grandmother years ago, was lying on her death bed for over 2 years. She had a tube in her and sometimes she could eat for herself and walk with the aide of us. But it came to a point where a decision had to be made. Keep the tube in and she would live for maybe a while longer, who knows. Or take the tube out and let her go, and not suffer anymore. We made the choice to let her go. Rather than keep her going on a tube and have people poke at her all the time in surgical procedures. She lasted about a week and went peacfully in her sleep. That was a decision we made and made it out of love for her. She had a good life and I think about her everyday, whether it was the right choice or not? I feel it was the right one. When she went she was in a far better state than Terri. Keeping the tube in Terri is just prolonging the inevidable, just as if we kept the tube in my G-ma. I hope I go like my G-ma rather than on the news and internet with pictures of me drooling on myself.

Im not going to give her parents a break, they are stupid! Ive been in the same position (as far as making hte choice) and made the right choice. And yes, I sat there with her for that week and watched her, remembered her life and remembered the great things about her. Sounds like youre the one judging!


You are so magnanimous with other people's lives. Could of, would of , should of... all cop outs.

[lady cop]

0237...11th circuit court has denied Terri Schiavo's parents' petition.

[LoveMama]

argonaut wrote: Sure we could let her live. She would have a wonderful life bedridden. I am sure thats how most of us want to live. And on the off chance that she some how becomes mobile again she will have the rest of her life to do painful rehabilitation. I think she has suffered long enough. Let her pass. Right now she is being kept alive only by a machine.


Argonaut, she is not on a 'machine'. She is only being fed interveniously.

If she were on a machine that would be a 'breathing' machine.

xxxxxxxoooooooo

mama

[LoveMama]

Jives wrote: Sorry, LinasK. That kind of death is NOT cruel or painful. My mother had ALS, Lou Gehrig's disease. It's a horrifying disease where the brain slowly disconnects from the body until you lose it all. No speech, no swallowing, no movement, no communication with the outside world nothing. You can no longer even wipe you own excrement from yourself. you are dependent on everyone for everything. Meanwhile your brain is still functioning perfectly in a body that has become a dead prison.

Is that life? Can it be life when you can no longer do or enjoy anything? She did not think so. What's really cruel is to continue to exist like that, draining your family's resources and wasting away.

My mother requested that when she reached the state where she was being kept alive by machines, she would choose to die. The doctors in California prepared her mentally and physically for this. They were very professional and caring. We all gathered with her for her final week to say goodbye.

At first she grew tired. The doctors prescribed morphine in slowly increasing dosages. We each stayed up with her on a 24 hour watch, gving her the morphine when she needed it. Finally, she passed quietly, with no pain, in her home, surrounded by her family and with the dignity she deserved.

You see, it only seems cruel to outsiders. When it happens to someone you love you will understand it better. :-1


Jives, I am so terribly sorry that you mom had LGDisease. It's one of the most awful way's to die. You did the right thing. Your poor mama had a loving son.....and family.

xxxxxxxxxxxooooooooo

mama

[Jives]

LoveMama wrote: Jives, I am so terribly sorry that you mom had LGDisease. It's one of the most awful way's to die. You did the right thing. Your poor mama had a loving son.....and family.


Well thanks for that LM. And congratulations on reading this entire thread! That was a feat itself.

I'm still with TW on this one. Life without interaction, life without communication, life without senses, life as a vegetable......

that's not life.

The parents are being selfish. They don't want to "lose" Terri. They can't possibly be thinking of Terri herself... if she is freed from this existance, all her pain will be gone. She can run and sing again! If they loved her they would let her cross over.

No, they are just serving their own interests. They want to gaze upon her poor face a while longer. Well, I can give them a stuffed toy that will fulfill that need just as well. Meanwhile, they torture her with immobility, slow decay and suffering every day on some vain hope that she will "miraculously" become the daughter they once knew.

For all those that are screaming "the pain of starvation and thirst" believe me the morphine and painkillers that they save for jobs like these are powerful beyond belief. She won't feel a thing.

And now the government wants to step in and tell people to allow their loved ones to live in suffering...I really, truly can't believe it. Bankruptcy, devastation, ruin for whole families lies down that road. Not to mention the loss of freedom and the intrusion into personal affairs it implies.

When one group of people, a government or a creed, begins to feel that they know what is best for everyone, in ever situation, then you might as well throw out the flag, the Consitution, and the Bill of Rights and start over again, because that's not what "The Land of the Free" means.

Maybe one good thing has come of this....my family went to our lawyers the other day and we all got living wills to make sure that we are never forced to live in a state like Terri's, by well-meaning, but misguided family members. We also believe in cremation in our family.

You see, it's our family's belief that you should live your life to the fullest, enjoy all, embrace all, love all, and then when it is your time to go....go gracefully and with dignity, leaving no burdens for the children and the future.

But then, what do we know? We're just desert-dwelling, nature-loving, sons and daughters of the West. We're not "civilized" enough to understand.

[Jives]

tmbsgrl wrote: Like for example, I CAN NOT sit still! So i was to get into an accident and lose my legs i would go CRAZY! I wouldn't want to live. I can not sit for the rest of my life.


Whoa! Hold the phone there, Tombsy! Let's don't go totally bonkers. You'd still be able to do lots of stuff. Read, go for rides in the park, enjoy camping and nature, ....even SWIM for Pete's Sake!!

I get your drift that your life would be harder, but it wouldn't be the drifting, endless, sterile Twilight Zone that Teri lives in.

[BTS]

She should die today.

If they haven’t given her any liquids since Friday, it’s not likely she could survive much past today.

You can go without food, but you can’t really go without water.

But then everybody knows that. Especially the people who have fought for years to take that food and water away from her.

With the nation looking on, they are willfully taking the life of a physically sound woman. The courts say you can’t take the life of a mentally handicapped murderer, but you must take the life of a mentally handicapped heart attack victim. It’s an odd homicide, a starvation in the name of mercy, a woman as chattel, the right of wedlock trumping the right to life.

But that’s all been said a million times.

In the vagary of public fixation, the nation and parts of the world have looked in and sounded off. Everyone has an opinion, everyone sees a conspiracy, everyone has taken a stand.

And many have exploited it for their own advantage.

We saw that in the Capitol in the dark of the night, we hear it on the talk shows up and down the dial, we see it in the activists on the streets and in the studios. The pro-abortion people have taken one side and the anti-abortion people have taken the other side and the lawyers have been on both sides of it.

It’s Elian Gonzalez with a different cast of characters, a mass fixation on a question of uncertain relevance.

But she should die today and in a week she’ll be forgotten. And we’ll go back to watching the Michael Jackson trial and the start of the baseball season.

Unless this all means something.

Which I’m not certain it does.

But if it does, if this spectacle has any significance or substance at all, the solutions are clear.

Don’t starve people to death.

If we are going to continue to nudge people into the next world – as we do thousands and thousands of times a year – we need to find a more humane way than starvation and dehydration. No matter what the doctors say, it is simply not believable that hunger doesn’t cause pain. Hunger and thirst are primal needs, and they are wired deep in the human mind and soul.

The simplest of animals feel and suffer from hunger, and it is only natural to expect that humans – even profoundly impaired humans – suffer in the same way. Stray dogs and convicted murderers get a humane and instant shot to end their lives. Why handicapped or elderly people should be treated less humanely is incomprehensible.

If we’re going to kill people, let’s find a better way to do it. It would be far more humane to put a bullet through their head, or slit their throat, or give her an overdose of sedatives. But instead we cling to the fiction that slowly starving and dehydrating them somehow merciful.

So don’t starve people to death.

And make life the default presumption.

In situations where there is not a health care proxy or living will, or some other form of prior decision making or assignment of legal rights, all means should be used to preserve and prolong life.

If somebody didn’t specifically, legally and provably ask to die, the presumption should be that they would want to live.

The right to make a life or death decision in a situation not involving brain death should not be given to spouses or children. For adults, the choice to withdraw treatment must be made by the individual involved, or by no one at all.

That avoids controversies like this in which one spouse makes unsubstantiated claims about the other spouse’s wishes. Unless the person in question has legally declined life-sustaining measures, or assigned the right to do so to someone else, the presumption must be for life.

Those are two substantive things that could be done to protect the thousands of Terry Schiavos who every day ride the bubble of selective mortality.

Those are two things which the Congress could have passed the other night when it went into emergency session.

But that would have required sincerity.

And I don’t think there is much of that in this issue. Rather, I think there is a lot of pettiness and pride. It’s become about winning, not about what’s best. Neither side is willing to talk or change. It seems to be a circus of egos on overdrive.

And what’s left of this poor girl is left in the middle. It doesn’t sound like she had a very happy life. And it doesn’t sound like she’s having a very happy death.

But she should be gone soon and I think this will all blow away. Nothing will change and life will go on.

And so will death.

Arbitrarily and inhumanely administered.

The same way Terry Schiavo faced it.

- by Bob Lonsberry © 2005

[kensloft]

BTS wrote: She should die today.

If they haven’t given her any liquids since Friday, it’s not likely she could survive much past today.

You can go without food, but you can’t really go without water.

But then everybody knows that. Especially the people who have fought for years to take that food and water away from her.

With the nation looking on, they are willfully taking the life of a physically sound woman. The courts say you can’t take the life of a mentally handicapped murderer, but you must take the life of a mentally handicapped heart attack victim. It’s an odd homicide, a starvation in the name of mercy, a woman as chattel, the right of wedlock trumping the right to life.

But that’s all been said a million times.

In the vagary of public fixation, the nation and parts of the world have looked in and sounded off. Everyone has an opinion, everyone sees a conspiracy, everyone has taken a stand.

And many have exploited it for their own advantage.

We saw that in the Capitol in the dark of the night, we hear it on the talk shows up and down the dial, we see it in the activists on the streets and in the studios. The pro-abortion people have taken one side and the anti-abortion people have taken the other side and the lawyers have been on both sides of it.

It’s Elian Gonzalez with a different cast of characters, a mass fixation on a question of uncertain relevance.

But she should die today and in a week she’ll be forgotten. And we’ll go back to watching the Michael Jackson trial and the start of the baseball season.

Unless this all means something.

Which I’m not certain it does.

But if it does, if this spectacle has any significance or substance at all, the solutions are clear.

Don’t starve people to death.

If we are going to continue to nudge people into the next world – as we do thousands and thousands of times a year – we need to find a more humane way than starvation and dehydration. No matter what the doctors say, it is simply not believable that hunger doesn’t cause pain. Hunger and thirst are primal needs, and they are wired deep in the human mind and soul.

The simplest of animals feel and suffer from hunger, and it is only natural to expect that humans – even profoundly impaired humans – suffer in the same way. Stray dogs and convicted murderers get a humane and instant shot to end their lives. Why handicapped or elderly people should be treated less humanely is incomprehensible.

If we’re going to kill people, let’s find a better way to do it. It would be far more humane to put a bullet through their head, or slit their throat, or give her an overdose of sedatives. But instead we cling to the fiction that slowly starving and dehydrating them somehow merciful.

So don’t starve people to death.

And make life the default presumption.

In situations where there is not a health care proxy or living will, or some other form of prior decision making or assignment of legal rights, all means should be used to preserve and prolong life.

If somebody didn’t specifically, legally and provably ask to die, the presumption should be that they would want to live.

The right to make a life or death decision in a situation not involving brain death should not be given to spouses or children. For adults, the choice to withdraw treatment must be made by the individual involved, or by no one at all.

That avoids controversies like this in which one spouse makes unsubstantiated claims about the other spouse’s wishes. Unless the person in question has legally declined life-sustaining measures, or assigned the right to do so to someone else, the presumption must be for life.

Those are two substantive things that could be done to protect the thousands of Terry Schiavos who every day ride the bubble of selective mortality.

Those are two things which the Congress could have passed the other night when it went into emergency session.

But that would have required sincerity.

And I don’t think there is much of that in this issue. Rather, I think there is a lot of pettiness and pride. It’s become about winning, not about what’s best. Neither side is willing to talk or change. It seems to be a circus of egos on overdrive.

And what’s left of this poor girl is left in the middle. It doesn’t sound like she had a very happy life. And it doesn’t sound like she’s having a very happy death.

But she should be gone soon and I think this will all blow away. Nothing will change and life will go on.

And so will death.

Arbitrarily and inhumanely administered.

The same way Terry Schiavo faced it.

- by Bob Lonsberry © 2005


There is only one point with which I disagree and that is the use of drugs to kill the pain of starvation. It does and will stop the pain so the reliance on that as an excuse to not starve Terri is a red herring. It allows people to think that your basic premise is out of touch with reality, hence, delusional.

[CVX]

Terri Schiavo Is In The Bible Code

Terri Schiavo



The killing of



The priests



They are making a sin offering



Exhausted she died



http://exodus2006.com/fab/terri.htm

[BTS]

CVX wrote: Terri Schiavo Is In The Bible Code

Terri Schiavo



The killing of



The priests



They are making a sin offering



Exhausted she died



http://exodus2006.com/fab/terri.htm


Gee CVX, I tried to understand but I guess I am just a dumb HICKABILLY?

What does it mean?

:yh_cowboy

[CVX]

BTS wrote: Gee CVX, I tried to understand but I guess I am just a dumb HICKABILLY?

What does it mean?

:yh_cowboy


Here is a little background on it. Snake Oil or Truth? You be the judge.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... 00-0877725

http://www.pfo.org/biblcode.htm

[Jives]

BTS wrote: She should die today.


Thank the Lord, she'll be with him soon. Why is that a bad thing?

With the nation looking on, they are willfully taking the life of a physically sound woman.


Physically sound living body, don't you mean? In the skull there's nothing but carrots. She's a vegetable, for Pete's Sake. She stopped being a woman 15 years ago and I consider it an atrocity to have kept an empty body alive this long.

The courts say you can’t take the life of a mentally handicapped murderer, but you must take the life of a mentally handicapped heart attack victim.


Mentally handicapped?!! What progandist drivel. She's a VEGETABLE! The lights are on but NOBODY'S HOME!. Get it? Whatever it is that made her a person has long since departed, let her poor racked body die.

But that’s all been said a million times. By selfish, holier-than-thou people that would not wish her condition on themselves. I call them hypocrites.

And many have exploited it for their own advantage.


Like this post for example!

The pro-abortion people have taken one side and the anti-abortion people have taken the other side and the lawyers have been on both sides of it.


Ok, that is just blatant spin-doctoring. The girl's not pregnant for God's sake!!!

And we’ll go back to watching the Michael Jackson trial and the start of the baseball season.


Amen to that brother!

Don’t starve people to death.


Unless their brain is already dead!!! then it's a sin to keep the body alive artificially and a big sin to use the dead body for propaganda purposes.

If we are going to continue to nudge people into the next world – as we do thousands and thousands of times a year – we need to find a more humane way than starvation and dehydration.


Well! I absolutely agree with you for once. Unfortunately, the man who tried to do this is currently serving a life sentence. His name was Dr. Kevorkian. See what I mean about hypocrisy? You beg for something more humane, but when someone comes up with it, you throw him in jail!

No matter what the doctors say, it is simply not believable that hunger doesn’t cause pain. Hunger and thirst are primal needs, and they are wired deep in the human mind and soul.


What? Now you know more than doctors? Just how many years of college do you have in medicine?

Stray dogs and convicted murderers get a humane and instant shot to end their lives. Why handicapped or elderly people should be treated less humanely is incomprehensible.

If we’re going to kill people, let’s find a better way to do it.


Like I said, Dr. Kevorkian ws tried and convicted of that...by people that are just as self-righteous as yourself!

It would be far more humane to put a bullet through their head, or slit their throat, or give her an overdose of sedatives. But instead we cling to the fiction that slowly starving and dehydrating them somehow merciful.


OK...you want to do that? Here's the gun, go to it. Or are you just using inflammatory words to increase the emotion of your post? In which case, you are again, a hypocrite.



In situations where there is not a health care proxy or living will, or some other form of prior decision making or assignment of legal rights, all means should be used to preserve and prolong life.


Oh you mean like when she told her husband, her closest confidant, her lover and spouse that she didn't want to live as a spiritless turnip? And who wouldn't make that choice?!!! Go ahead, go up to as many people on the street as you like and ask them, "Would you like to continue to live after your brain is dead?" Let's make the presumption of DEATH in this case!

If somebody didn’t specifically, legally and provably ask to die, the presumption should be that they would want to live.


Blithering twaddle. You didn't write down that you didn't want to be a vegetable and kept alive until your family is completely bankrupt, so we'll go ahead and keep that brainless body alive and destroy the future for your family and your children. Nice, real nice.

The right to make a life or death decision in a situation not involving brain death should not be given to spouses or children. For adults, the choice to withdraw treatment must be made by the individual involved, or by no one at all.


Putting the brain-dead into a permanent, expensive Twilight Zone. Oh yeah, that's REAL humane.

That avoids controversies like this in which one spouse makes unsubstantiated claims about the other spouse’s wishes.


OK, who here in the Garden will seriously state that their spouse doesn't know them well enough to make decisions about them if they can't? (sounds of crickets chirping)Nobody? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Those are two things which the Congress could have passed the other night when it went into emergency session.


Just what we need, The government coming between a man and his wife. The founders will be horrified and spinning in their graves. It's holier-than-thou hypocrites like this one that make me worry for our country. It was never their intention to force people to make decisions. They let poeple decide for themselves. They called it freedom.

But that would have required sincerity.


and a ton of idiocy, rampant totalitarianism, and you can bet they'd reverse themselves the second one of the senator's wives was in the same position.

It seems to be a circus of egos on overdrive.


Exactly what I thought when I read your post.

And what’s left of this poor girl is left in the middle. It doesn’t sound like she had a very happy life.


Shows what you know. You've just invalidated everything you said since you just told everyone you have no knowledge of her life before she experienced brain death. She was very happy and vibrant. The Lord has taken her soul, all that's left is the empty shell you are fighting so hard to keep alive. Why? Certainly not for her! It must be for yourself and your obviously political goals (like anti-abortionism!). Selfish and twisted!

Arbitrarily and inhumanely administered.


Where do you get that? This is the worst example of pure trolling I've seen in a while. You are purposefully twisting meaning, deleting facts, inserting political opinions, and using inflammatory language!

Arbitrarily - So you think our court system is arbitrary? What about the word of her husband? Oh, I get it, if it doesn't agree with you then it's "arbitrary".

Inhumane - How the heck do you know it's inhumane? Have you experienced it? The doctors, who know much more about the body than you do, say it's humane. Who are you to judge?

I saw my own mother die this way, and she never exp[erienced the slightest discomfort that I could tell, and I held her hand the entire time! You, sir, are a scoundrel, a panderer, and an ignomious shyster!!!

[BabyRider]

Hooo Boy!!! Jives, love your reply. My brain is spinning trying to figure what to applaud first. I'll just leave it at "I agree with it all." Fantastic. :yh_clap

[lady cop]

jives ....:yh_worshp :yh_peace :yh_hugs ...you and i have our differences of opinion about terri, but that was a superb post.

[Jives]

Oh.....Ummm....thanks. (Jives blushes and kicks at the ground with one foot)



I didn't mean to get so fired up, but I guess I feel pretty strongly on this subject and I have to say what I think, I have to be straight, or else I'll just sound like some hypocritical flatterer.

But..yeah! I'm fired up now!!!

(Jives jumps up from the computer and bounces around the room shadowboxing)

Take that! and that!

[BabyRider]

There is lots of high emotion about this situation. God forbid it ever happens to someone we actually know, like it did Jives.

Hey Jives.....

LOOK OUT FOR THE COFFEE TABLE!!!!

[BTS]

Jives wrote: Oh.....Ummm....thanks. (Jives blushes and kicks at the ground with one foot)



I didn't mean to get so fired up, but I guess I feel pretty strongly on this subject and I have to say what I think, I have to be straight, or else I'll just sound like some hypocritical flatterer.

But..yeah! I'm fired up now!!!

(Jives jumps up from the computer and bounces around the room shadowboxing)

Take that! and that!


Question.............

What if he did cause her injuries?

Just what if?

Hypothetical...........

How would you look at it then?

[Jives]

We depend on dedicated professionals like Ladycop to make sure that those who do that are caught.

I'm not willing to sentence millions to a brain-dead, body-living, savings-destroying, sterile-existice because one guy "might" have caused some injuries to a person.

If it was murder, then sentence him to death.

If it was an accident...don't sentence her body to a twilight zone of slow decay, and family destroying expenses. It just aint human..or humane.

[CARLA]

JIVES.... BRAVO !!!I actually read your ENTIRE response to BTS..

BTS, I don't always agree with your posts but I must say your are passionate, concerned, and willing to state your feelings... to that i say BRAVO !!... you make for interesting reading..

I actually agree with you on this issue.. GO FIGURE.. I do see all sides to the issue...

I just can't justify STARVING AND HUMAN BEING, HOW EVER BRAIN DEAD THEY MAY ME..THEY ARE STILL HUMAN.. THIS IS BARBARIC.. SHE SHOULD AT LEAST BE ALLOWED ICE, OR WATER ... NO REATACHING THE FEEDING TUBE.. JUST A LITTLE COMFORT IN HER LAST HOURS..SHE MAY NOT HAVE WANTED TO LIVE THE WAY SHE IS, BUT I'M SURE SHE WOULDN'T HAVE WANTED TO BE STARVED TO DEATH..

I BELIEVE SHE WILL DIE ON EASTER.. :-1

[kmhowe72]

Jesse Jackson appeared in surprise visit the woodside Hospice that Terri schiavo is dieing to day. Do you think his visit helped her in any way? Her husband Micheal denieing her cummion today again. Micheal did allow Jackson into terri's room upon request. Also a man started to run in and almost enter the building while police were distracted by the preasent's of Jackson. He didn't get to far. They ran after him, and then tased him with a stun gun. He is being Charge with robbery and other I not sure of. My question what was he robbing??? he was attemping to bring water into terri S.

[Jives]

kmhowe72 wrote: He is being charged with robbery. My question what was he robbing???


He was attempting to rob her of her right to die with diginity for one thing.

[lady cop]

i just heard a report on dan abrams that Terri's father posted flyers offering video of Terri for $100. donations. Terri would be mortified i am sure!! my opinion of him just went down the loo.

[David813]

I agree TW. This is beyond ridiculous now. Please Terri! DIE!!! There is other news in the world. GO AWAY SCHIAVOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I need a Schiavo Blocker for my TV! :-5

[David813]

ABORT TERRIS PARENTS! I knew they were only bankrolling themselves by standing on their dead daughter's bed for 15 years. Now what will they do for cash when she finally passes!!! Typical fundamentalists. Rotten to the core.

[Beth]

lady cop wrote: i just heard a report on dan abrams that Terri's father posted flyers offering video of Terri for $100. donations. Terri would be mortified i am sure!! my opinion of him just went down the loo.
I understand completely. My opinion went down last week. Until then, I strongly supported the parents. If there is and afterlife, I would want to come back and haunt someone if they did that to me. I still hate the thought of her being starved, but I can understand.

[Beth]

David813 wrote: ABORT TERRIS PARENTS! I knew they were only bankrolling themselves by standing on their dead daughter's bed for 15 years. Now what will they do for cash when she finally passes!!! Typical fundamentalists. Rotten to the core.
Well, I don't like some of the things fundamentalists do. But I object to the 'rotten to the core' statement of yours.

[David813]

Fundamentalist Jihadists of ANY religion are rotten to the core.

[kmhowe72]

That's really a sick thing to say. they are robing her of the right to die. Give me a break!! Micheal is robbing for her right to live. And that Adultress he's living with.

[mominiowa]

The whole Jesse Jackson thing..........PLEASEEEEEEEE..he was on Nancy last night pimp'in for Michael Jackson....Saying he has been black mailed..what the hell ever...He just wants his picture out there to get more votes for an election that would never happen.. I beleive in a lot of what he use to say until last night..He spoke pure BS about Jackson...

I can't tell you enough how sad it is to watch that woman die - and hear it why the hell would ANY sain person want to buy it...I wanted what was best for Terri - not I wish she would pass gently and go...There is a MUCH better world out there then the hell SHE is in right now....and that we live in each day!

[kmhowe72]

ya, you know I don't think Jesse Jackson is going to have an impact. Now if you put Jerry Farwell their maybe. Since he is best buddies with Bush. But he is fighting his own plight tonight. who would you think would make a difference? :-4

[mominiowa]

Hmmmmmmmmmm..can't think of anyone but the Pope and he's a little ill himself.~ I just wish that she would not suffer so - and that the protesters would just go the hell home.. Let that woman die.

BUT at least Scott Petersons appeals will be lame with out Johnny.. I am truley sad he passed away.. He fought a long battle..unfortuanly he did not win..Its sad when some one that seemed as strong as him just 4 months ago - can go so quickly but yet Terri lays there...

[David813]

Scrat wrote: Jerry Falwell is in the hospital on a ventilator from what I hear.

Sorry about my cynicism but I think she should just be allowed to die in peace.
I agree Scrat. Terri should have been gone years ago. Her parents cashing in on her living corpse all these years is sickening. Pull the plug on Terri! I need a Schiavo Block for my TV!! As for Falwell; The world will be a better place without him.