People with vicious dogs may be vicious too

cars · Post by **cars** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:59 pm

Sooooo, what does the say about yorkie owners! ? :-2

Sheryl · Post by **Sheryl** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:07 pm

:wah: :wah:

cars · Post by **cars** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:09 pm

SnoozeControl;470647 wrote: Short and yappy? :sneaky:

Glad I don't own one!!!

:p :rolleyes:

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:10 pm

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:14 pm

not mine, i wish (s)he was!! i always liked large breeds, had many german shepards, malamutes, weimeraners. ...i think little yappy ankle biters are very good for use as shark bait.

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:50 pm

I always wanted a Rott, but then I heard they eat their puppies (Males), and I lost a little respect for them. Then I thought about getting a Doberman, and I am starting to think that they might be the same way.

I will do a little research before I do get one, if I ever do.

But about the O.P, I think this correlates to people needing that macho image to appear tougher than they really are.

guppy · Post by **guppy** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:55 pm

i have fallen in love with shitz zu dogs. they are dumb and gullible............

like their owner............

LilacDragon · Post by **LilacDragon** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:09 pm

K.Snyder;470745 wrote: I always wanted a Rott, but then I heard they eat their puppies (Males), and I lost a little respect for them. Then I thought about getting a Doberman, and I am starting to think that they might be the same way.

I will do a little research before I do get one, if I ever do.

But about the O.P, I think this correlates to people needing that macho image to appear tougher than they really are.

Where in the heck did you hear that? What a load of crap. Almost as big a load as the "study" the thread is about.

There are rottweilers and pitbulls (and about a half a million German Shepherds) that do rescue work and are certified therapy dogs. But I suppose their owners/trainers are involved in some kind of deviant behaviour too.

BTW - I am living in an apartment that won't allow "dangerous" dogs ie: German Shepherds, Rottweilers, Pitbulls and Dobermans. So I am looking at Giant Schnauzers and Bouviers!

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:12 pm

LilacDragon;470765 wrote: Where in the heck did you hear that? What a load of crap. Almost as big a load as the "study" the thread is about.

There are rottweilers and pitbulls (and about a half a million German Shepherds) that do rescue work and are certified therapy dogs. But I suppose their owners/trainers are involved in some kind of deviant behaviour too.

BTW - I am living in an apartment that won't allow "dangerous" dogs ie: German Shepherds, Rottweilers, Pitbulls and Dobermans. So I am looking at Giant Schnauzers and Bouviers!

I heard it on a program,..and as I said, I will do a little research on the dogs that I would own before I make that decision.

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:17 pm

LilacDragon;470765 wrote:

There are rottweilers and pitbulls (and about a half a million German Shepherds) that do rescue work and are certified therapy dogs. But I suppose their owners/trainers are involved in some kind of deviant behaviour too.

I think the study is about how people with convictions prefer to have dogs that are known for aggression as opposed to the other way around. It only reflects the choice people make in choosing the type of dog that's all.

Rottweilers, Pitt Bulls, and Dobermans can be trained to be vicious alot easier than say a poodle or a Cocker Spaniel.

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:52 pm

I love all sizes of dogs, can't say all breeds though...I favor certain ones...these are my current babies...The big one is MY baby girl...who is Pit bull mixed and the biggest BABY/Scaredy (dog-not cat)!!

this is the first time I've ever downloaded pics...hope it works

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guppy · Post by **guppy** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:57 pm

WonderWendy3;470786 wrote: I love all sizes of dogs, can't say all breeds though...I favor certain ones...these are my current babies...The big one is MY baby girl...who is Pit bull mixed and the biggest BABY/Scaredy (dog-not cat)!!

this is the first time I've ever downloaded pics...hope it works

awwww. soooo cute. the second one looks like my gerty.

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:00 pm

guppy;470788 wrote: awwww. soooo cute. the second one looks like my gerty.

I didn't explain fully, the little one is my sister-in-law's dog, we took him in back in August and of course he's part of the family NOW...along with their (my brother and his wife's) Kitten...

3 cats, 2 dogs, 3 boys and 1 crazy gray haired WOMAN!!

LilacDragon · Post by **LilacDragon** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:07 pm

K.Snyder;470771 wrote: I think the study is about how people with convictions prefer to have dogs that are known for aggression as opposed to the other way around. It only reflects the choice people make in choosing the type of dog that's all.

Rottweilers, Pitt Bulls, and Dobermans can be trained to be vicious alot easier than say a poodle or a Cocker Spaniel.

You know I love you, right?

In my life, I have owned more then one rottweiler and more then one GSD. Oh, and a rather large male Akita.

Of all the dogs I have owned in the 20+ years since I have lived away from my parents - a cocker spaniel.

Yes - pit bulls are tenacious. It is a terrier trait. Rottweilers and Dobermans are large. Chain any dog up to a tree, feed it when the mood strikes you, and don't bother to do any socializing and it really doesn't matter what breed it is - it will become dangerous.

I am willing to bet that most criminals - drug dealing thugs who think that a large powerful dog will not only make them look good but will protect their "stuff" will choose whichever "killer" breed the press is going on about.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:23 pm

anyone remember the CA case where a presa canario tore a young woman to shreds? the owners had 2 of them in a freaking apt. bldg. that they were keeping for some prison inmate. ...i have to remember name of case.

LilacDragon · Post by **LilacDragon** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:28 pm

lady cop;470807 wrote: anyone remember the CA case where a presa canario tore a young woman to shreds? the owners had 2 of them in a freaking apt. bldg. that they were keeping for some prison inmate. ...i have to remember name of case.

I want to say Whipple but I could be wrong.

If you remember right - the initial reports had the dogs as pit bulls and it wasn't until several days later that the breed was correctly identified.

Those particular Presa's had some major issues as far as how they were raised. But if you look at the breed standard - these are not a breed for the weak of heart, they are very anti-social and often times don't even bond to their "family".

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:32 pm

yes!! diane whipple. the people who housed the dogs were both lawyers. and were totally unrepentant. those presas were like the hound of the baskervilles on steroids. vicious.

guppy · Post by **guppy** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:37 pm

aren't chows unpredictable too? i had a friend who had one one time. the dog got up mad or something and up and bit one of the youngins in the face. a hundred stitches later, the chow went bye bye.................

LilacDragon · Post by **LilacDragon** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:50 pm

guppy;470820 wrote: aren't chows unpredictable too? i had a friend who had one one time. the dog got up mad or something and up and bit one of the youngins in the face. a hundred stitches later, the chow went bye bye.................

The city that I live in has a pit-bull ban. Last year a young girl was killed (she was alone in the back yard with the dogs on chains) by a pair of malamutes.

Any breed can be unpredictable if they are not properly trained and socialized.

Lulu2 · Post by **Lulu2** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:02 pm

Please pay close attention to LD's last sentence....ANY DOG can be unpredictable if it's not carefully bred and raised.

There's no better dog anywhere than a mixed-breed female!

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:40 pm

The study predisposes in its first sentence that all these dogs are vicious which is false.

Rotts do not eat their young as a rule.

Nor do Dobermans.

Nor does any other dog unless there is something wrong with the pup and even then that is a rare, rare instance.

When it seems like it is always little kids being bitten, one has to wonder first are the statitstics being reported accurately or are we just hearing that all the dogs eat babies? Second, what are the kids doing to provoke the attacks? Not saying it's the kid's fault every time but most time sit is and that cannot be blamed on the dog. Parents and adults are still stupid enough to leav etheir kid alone with a dog-of any size-and any breed-and yet when the kid pulls its tail and ears or pokes it in the eye or bites its nose, the dog is always blamed for the kid's actions. I have seen this happen and I always ask "what did the kid do?" Kids are not blameless little cherubs as many adults like to think.

This study sounds bogus and trumped-up to me.

Sheryl · Post by **Sheryl** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:44 pm

My inlaws had a rottweiler when I first got married. That dog was a huge baby, worst he could do to ya was drown ya in slobber from his kisses.

guppy · Post by **guppy** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:48 pm

Sheryl;470858 wrote: My inlaws had a rottweiler when I first got married. That dog was a huge baby, worst he could do to ya was drown ya in slobber from his kisses.

just goes to show it is all in how you raise your pets............

and alot of it depends on the personalities of the owners i think.

Sheryl · Post by **Sheryl** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:53 pm

guppy;470860 wrote: and alot of it depends on the personalities of the owners i think.

well I wouldn't go that far...lol, my fathernlaw can be a real pain in the arse..:rolleyes:

guppy · Post by **guppy** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:58 pm

Sheryl;470862 wrote: well I wouldn't go that far...lol, my fathernlaw can be a real pain in the arse..:rolleyes:

in that case........dont lean over in front of the dog.............:p

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:01 pm

The way a dog is treated has alot to do with it!! Just like people...not all, but we can become bitter and full of anger if mis-treated! Yes, I know we are a different species...but still Dogs that are given love...give it right back to the owners!!

BTS · Post by **BTS** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:24 pm

cars;470650 wrote: Glad I don't own one!!!

:p :rolleyes:

THANK GOD AND GREYHOUND ......

I do

And a gun...........TEW

pantsonfire321@aol.com · Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:15 am

My daughter works in a pet shop (they don't sell dogs)and in the last three months has had more young guys come into the shop asking where they could buy Rotts . Now this was only beacause back in September we had rather nasty incident where a child was killed by two Rotts . Right after this happened the papers were reporting that Rotts had the strongest bite power ...so hence young idiots coming into the shop wanting to trade in their Staff for Rott.

DesignerGal · Post by **DesignerGal** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:34 am

What does this say about me? Fat and White?

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Sheryl · Post by **Sheryl** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:46 am

nahh I would say that's one spoiled dog...:wah:

DesignerGal · Post by **DesignerGal** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:48 am

Sheryl;471027 wrote: nahh I would say that's one spoiled dog...:wah:

She is getting a new bed this year for Christmas.

So is the other one. I dont have a pic of her but she is cute too. I want to buy sweaters for them but Annie (the ne pictured) has a REALLY broad chest. Nothing fits her.

cherandbuster · Post by **cherandbuster** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:44 pm

lady cop;470655 wrote: i think little yappy ankle biters are very good for use as shark bait.

Awwwww

Buster could change your mind, I bet :-4