Which is trump: Truth or success?
Without a question, there is no doubt.
Truth is what is, no matter what humans may desire. Truth will, in the end, win out.
When we are dealing with humans, short term success is often divorced from truth. Human will, can be easily manipulated; politicians and business managers have become expert at manipulating human will.
A current glaring example is the Iraq war. If the war was a success, in American terms, few Americans would care about the truth of the matter. Whether the war caused 600,000 or 30,000 dead Iraqis is of little concern. Only when success is not achieved is the truth of the matter in question.
I think that we are always better off, in the long run, if we value truth more than success. Preparing our self to recognize truth is a long, arduous, and many splendored task; it is well worth the effort. Do you agree?
Which is trump: Truth or success?
Which is trump: Truth or success?
that post made me think of my grandad :-4
a constant saying from him to us whilst growing up 'honesty is the best policy'
a constant saying from him to us whilst growing up 'honesty is the best policy'
Which is trump: Truth or success?
buttercup;451037 wrote: that post made me think of my grandad :-4
a constant saying from him to us whilst growing up 'honesty is the best policy'
What does honesty have to do with truth? What does honesty have to do with success? What does honesty mean in this context?
a constant saying from him to us whilst growing up 'honesty is the best policy'
What does honesty have to do with truth? What does honesty have to do with success? What does honesty mean in this context?
Which is trump: Truth or success?
coberst;451112 wrote: What does honesty have to do with truth? What does honesty have to do with success? What does honesty mean in this context?
Uh...
Honesty --
-- the quality of being honest
-- Honesty, the quality of being honest, is a value which can be defined in multiple ways. In the context of human communication, people are generally said to be honest when they tell the truth to the best of their knowledge and do not hide --what they know or think. Apart from being truthful, honesty is also generally thought to involve abstaining from unfair behaviour, such as stealing or cheating on a test.
-- Youth tells the truth even when it is not easy.
Uh...
Honesty --
-- the quality of being honest
-- Honesty, the quality of being honest, is a value which can be defined in multiple ways. In the context of human communication, people are generally said to be honest when they tell the truth to the best of their knowledge and do not hide --what they know or think. Apart from being truthful, honesty is also generally thought to involve abstaining from unfair behaviour, such as stealing or cheating on a test.
-- Youth tells the truth even when it is not easy.
Which is trump: Truth or success?
I think you are generalizing and I totally disagree on your veiw of what the majority of Americans think and feel...
I would like to see the results of such a hypothesis in order to take in any of this post.
Speaking for myself, I don't give a rats arse if our soldiers are the ones winning, I am opposed to any action in my government that is not constituted as morally just in my own opinion...
I sincerely hope others feel the same way, victory or no victory.
I would like to see the results of such a hypothesis in order to take in any of this post.
Speaking for myself, I don't give a rats arse if our soldiers are the ones winning, I am opposed to any action in my government that is not constituted as morally just in my own opinion...
I sincerely hope others feel the same way, victory or no victory.
Which is trump: Truth or success?
coberst;451031 wrote: Which is trump: Truth or success?
Without a question, there is no doubt.
Truth is what is, no matter what humans may desire. Truth will, in the end, win out.
When we are dealing with humans, short term success is often divorced from truth. Human will, can be easily manipulated; politicians and business managers have become expert at manipulating human will.
A current glaring example is the Iraq war. If the war was a success, in American terms, few Americans would care about the truth of the matter. Whether the war caused 600,000 or 30,000 dead Iraqis is of little concern. Only when success is not achieved is the truth of the matter in question.
I think that we are always better off, in the long run, if we value truth more than success. Preparing our self to recognize truth is a long, arduous, and many splendored task; it is well worth the effort. Do you agree?
I disagree because truth is not universal nor for that matter is success. They are both perecptions..
Without a question, there is no doubt.
Truth is what is, no matter what humans may desire. Truth will, in the end, win out.
When we are dealing with humans, short term success is often divorced from truth. Human will, can be easily manipulated; politicians and business managers have become expert at manipulating human will.
A current glaring example is the Iraq war. If the war was a success, in American terms, few Americans would care about the truth of the matter. Whether the war caused 600,000 or 30,000 dead Iraqis is of little concern. Only when success is not achieved is the truth of the matter in question.
I think that we are always better off, in the long run, if we value truth more than success. Preparing our self to recognize truth is a long, arduous, and many splendored task; it is well worth the effort. Do you agree?
I disagree because truth is not universal nor for that matter is success. They are both perecptions..
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.
Which is trump: Truth or success?
Zink says--"I disagree because truth is not universal nor for that matter is success. They are both perecptions.."
Truth is sometimes universal. Global warming may be such a truth. Truth is a perception that is sometimes universally true.
Truth is sometimes universal. Global warming may be such a truth. Truth is a perception that is sometimes universally true.
Which is trump: Truth or success?
zinkyusa;451186 wrote: I disagree because truth is not universal nor for that matter is success. They are both perecptions..
what a surprise i agree with batty.
what a surprise i agree with batty.