Is this justified, or am I just mean?

Dixiespurgirl · Post by **Dixiespurgirl** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:36 am

I would just like to say to greydeadhead's post (clears throat):

AMEN BROTHER!

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:32 am

Dixiespurgirl wrote: I would just like to say to greydeadhead's post (clears throat):

AMEN BROTHER!Ditto, Dixie...(nice to see you're back!)

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:54 am

everyone here gets a get-out-of-jail-free-card! well, not everyone.

Babytider i am SHOCKED!! you don't always agree with me???? NOOOOOO

Post by **kensloft** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 2:04 pm

greydeadhead wrote: Ahhhhh... the fun I have missed on this thread. RSF... you might as well hang it up. The way the you are presenting your arguement comes across like a prepubescent teenager. No logical basis for you posts. It has been proven that one drink (1 12oz beer, a 1oz shot of liquor, or a 6oz glass of wine) can impair you reaction time. And please don't tell a longtime bartender that I am wrong. Perhaps you don't think that it impairs your ability to function... well you can think that right up until you have to life with severly injuring or killing someone because you could not feel the effects of the drinks you had. A favor though, just let me know when you are cruising 128 next time after your five cocktails so I can avoid ya.

Now David813... please stop with the whining about the infringement of your civil rights by members of the law enforcement community. You don't have a civil right to drive drunk. But of course if drunk driver wiped out a family member of yours you would be the first to start lawsuit and change the laws. No we are not a bunch of bored 40 something people. We are a group of people that can discuss intelligently any topic we chose. Young know it alls that hide behind thier interpretion of the Bill of Rights and Constitution and use that as a basis for flaming people.. well if that is the best you can do to base your arguement then you might as well just keep quiet. You crow about your freedom of speech.. yet you deride others the same priviledge.. wow.. can you say hypocrisy.

Oooookay.. rant over....

Rant on!

minks · Post by **minks** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:16 pm

I say Go On Ahead do your drinking have fun and who cares the affect you feel or do not feel, but the law states you CAN NOT DRIVE at .8 or is that .08 sorry non drinker here and not up on the legalize but plain and simple -drink your face off but don't get behind the wheel. You become a dangerous weapon and that is what is illegal.

RedSoxFan · Post by **RedSoxFan** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:47 pm

BabyRider wrote: Ah the battle cry of the alcoholic in denial...I'm pretty sure I said exactly those words, several times, myself.

Your sig line is interesting...What are you hiding behind?

Anyone who boasts this much about his drinking "ability" is either deluded, or a brand-spanking new 21 year-old.

No, Im not boasting about it at all. I'm just tring to point out that other people have different tolerance levels and can drink more. Like I said earlier, my Ex-Girlfriend could drink two and be done, and I could drink 5 and be fine.

And Im not hiding behind anything....Im here expressing my opinions. Even though I get private messages from you asking me to "be a little nicer." Sorry you can't handle opinions from the side of the divide. Try not to take things so personal. I imagine you sitting at your computer getting upset about nothing. All it is, is other peoples opinions. I don't take anything you say personally. It's just your opinion.

David813 · Post by **David813** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:49 pm

I expressed an opinion about the thread and disagreed with LadyCop. I ran? Where? I made my points that represent my views and read many others. I logged out and went to bed! Do you want a videotape or something? JEEZ! I have not been disrespectful. A few of you have. Mellow out and don't be so sensitive! I cannot agree with everything you require agreement with. This isn't your forum, it's a public forum and perhaps a few of you should remember that. And all this because I don't like MADD and I don't hold the police in high regard. I'm owed an apology from a couple of you.

David813 · Post by **David813** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:51 pm

By the way I'm 41 and sometimes bored. That was not an insult! You guys are a trip!

RedSoxFan · Post by **RedSoxFan** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:52 pm

koan wrote: Thanks for answering my query: You're an idiot. Reread my post. I am no lightweight. This is not the first error you have made in this forum.

No, I read your post correctly the first time. You said "one day I can drink one and be tipsy and one day drink 10 or more and be sober" I think you're delusional. Thats an unrealistic jump in the amount you can consume from day to day.

David813 · Post by **David813** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:02 pm

Something tells me RSF has tainted my standing among the elite on this board. How can we banish him??

minks · Post by **minks** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:14 pm

David813 wrote: Something tells me RSF has tainted my standing among the elite on this board. How can we banish him??

No no no I doubt that very much you only taint your own standing don't worry. Hehehehe don't worry you can't get banned by association.... can you? Tee hee hee

RedSoxFan · Post by **RedSoxFan** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:19 pm

David813 wrote: Something tells me RSF has tainted my standing among the elite on this board. How can we banish him??

Oh David, don't give up so easliy. Say what you feel, dont give in. I havent tainted anything, we were on the same side. But now I am going to the bars.... :driving:

David813 · Post by **David813** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:19 pm

minks wrote: No no no I doubt that very much you only taint your own standing don't worry. Hehehehe don't worry you can't get banned by association.... can you? Tee hee hee

It's good to hear that Minks! I'm not sure I can express any opinion here in fear of being attacked and labeled a troll! I'm just a 41 year old contractor with two grown kids, a cat, mortgage and a leftist perspective. God Forbid!

David813 · Post by **David813** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:20 pm

RSF deserves a DUI today!

minks · Post by **minks** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:42 pm

David813 wrote: It's good to hear that Minks! I'm not sure I can express any opinion here in fear of being attacked and labeled a troll! I'm just a 41 year old contractor with two grown kids, a cat, mortgage and a leftist perspective. God Forbid!

Well David post away all opinions are greatly appreciated, but stupidity is not tolerated.

Naw go on post away and be sure you let everyone know your posting an opinion. Opinions are free.

It is when our own members are attacked that we get our hackles up and u got it a DUI for the team guy hehehehe

Don't run off with your tail between you legs David we aren't that horrible.

Jives · Post by **Jives** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:53 pm

BabyRider wrote: . 10 years ago I had a DUI. Stupid, yes I know. I learned, (unlike many) and never drove drunk again. But the classes you are forced to take where you get screamed at by a mother who has lost a child to a drunk driver...WOW.

Hey congrats on the sobriety! (Wish I had the guts to do that)

i live at the drunk driving capital of the U.S. new Mexico is the #1 state, San Juan County is the worst county in that state, and Farmington is the worst city in that county for DWI. I mean, we had a guy get his 15th DWI this month for Pete's sake!

I'm not going to be hypocritical either, drunk driving was my hobby when I was 15. Heck, it was EVERYONE'S hobby in the 70's. (Good thing LadyCop doesn't live in my town!) You couldn't even get into trouble for it then. If you were old enough to see over the steering wheel of a car, drive up to the drive-up liquor window and pronounce the name of a beer correctly, you could buy alcohol.

I got pulled over lots of times, so drunk I was probably driving on the sidewalk, but the police never arrested me once. They would just make you pour out your beer. Then they would ask you if you were OK, to drive home. if you said "yes" they followed you home, if you said "no" they gave you a ride.

Of course, we expected at least two high school students a year to be killed.

Pretty dumb, huh? But it was the Wild West in those days.

Anyway...I'm right with you guys on this one, blackmailing people is no way to get things done. I walked past a Salvation Army bell ringer this Christmas ( I only had 20's in my wallet, so I was going to wait until I had change from shopping in the store)...and the guy says to me, "cheapskate". Sheesh!

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:01 pm

Jives wrote: I walked past a Salvation Army bell ringer this Christmas ( I only had 20's in my wallet, so I was going to wait until I had change from shopping in the store)...and the guy says to me, "cheapskate". Sheesh!

Talking about emotional blackmail, a similar thing happened to me last Sat, i passed a young guy in the subway with his dog asking for money to buy food for his pooch.

On the way back through the subway i gave the guy a big bag of bonio biscuits for his dog & had a couple of quid in my hand, he tutted & told me to p**s off!! needless to say he did'nt get his 2 quid.

Sheryl · Post by **Sheryl** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:05 pm

Ok with the MADD organization, didn't the lady who helped start the group get a DUI a few years back. I could of swore I read that somewhere.

And I hate those emails too. I just delete them, wonder if that's why my luck is so bad.

Sheryl

koan · Post by **koan** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:10 pm

RedSoxFan wrote: No, I read your post correctly the first time. You said "one day I can drink one and be tipsy and one day drink 10 or more and be sober" I think you're delusional. Thats an unrealistic jump in the amount you can consume from day to day.

It is completely true. I know why it happens but I don't respect you enough to tell you. The point is: On both occasions I am too drunk to drive.

So...because you didn't understand what I said or assumed I am delusional...you decided to make up your own reality of what was said? Sounds like you make up your own reality a lot.

It is obvious you are getting off on upsetting people. Just so you know, I couldn't give a rat's as$ about you and I will sleep perfectly fine no matter what you say because I believe you are a liar. Just so you know.

Jives · Post by **Jives** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:23 pm

Can you believe 400 people got killed in New Mexico last year? Two compete families got wiped out in a single day in my town two months ago!

I'd rather be set on fire and thrown from an airplane than drunk drive these days.

RedSoxFan · Post by **RedSoxFan** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:11 pm

koan wrote: It is completely true. I know why it happens but I don't respect you enough to tell you. The point is: On both occasions I am too drunk to drive.

So...because you didn't understand what I said or assumed I am delusional...you decided to make up your own reality of what was said? Sounds like you make up your own reality a lot.

It is obvious you are getting off on upsetting people. Just so you know, I couldn't give a rat's as$ about you and I will sleep perfectly fine no matter what you say because I believe you are a liar. Just so you know.

I understood perfectly. One drink compared to Ten, is quite a jump. Im sorry that you dont respect me enough to tell me.....Ahhhh Well....Life goes on. Lets refrain from talking about Master**ting on the thread here. No one wants to think about that. Im a "liar" what are we in 1st grade?

Post by **kensloft** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:15 pm

RedSoxFan wrote: No, I read your post correctly the first time. You said "one day I can drink one and be tipsy and one day drink 10 or more and be sober" I think you're delusional. Thats an unrealistic jump in the amount you can consume from day to day.
I think that you should acquire a copy of "How to Win Friends and Influence People", by Dale Carnegie.

koan is not delusional. Your ignorance is showing that you don't have a clue about what you are talking about. Your overrstated expertise in knowing the world is a little thin and you are a little thick with what you think of yourself.

David813 · Post by **David813** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:19 pm

Holy Cannoli! I'm gettin outta THIS thread!!!

RedSoxFan · Post by **RedSoxFan** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:23 pm

kensloft wrote: I think that you should acquire a copy of "How to Win Friends and Influence People", by Dale Carnegie.

koan is not delusional. Your ignorance is showing that you don't have a clue about what you are talking about. Your overrstated expertise in knowing the world is a little thin and you are a little thick with what you think of yourself.

Thank you for the compliments! Not looking to make friends. Looking to voice my opinions, if you dont like them, oh well.

RedSoxFan · Post by **RedSoxFan** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:24 pm

David813 wrote: Holy Cannoli! I'm gettin outta THIS thread!!!

OK Rob!

Post by **kensloft** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:26 pm

RedSoxFan wrote: Thank you for the compliments! Not looking to make friends. Looking to voice my opinions, if you dont like them, oh well.
If you are not looking to make friends and want to post your sickening opinions then why don't you do it somewhere else Mr Troll!

RedSoxFan · Post by **RedSoxFan** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:34 pm

kensloft wrote: If you are not looking to make friends and want to post your sickening opinions then why don't you do it somewhere else Mr Troll!

Wow, It's interesting to find out just how many people cant take it when other people have different ideas or thoughts. Quite sad.

..........ok now your turn to come back at me and insult me again........

koan · Post by **koan** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:20 pm

If you look up the internet definition of a troll you will find out it is not an insult it is an accurate statement.

Everyone please IGNORE the troll.

RedSoxFan · Post by **RedSoxFan** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:30 pm

koan wrote: If you look up the internet definition of a troll you will find out it is not an insult it is an accurate statement.

Everyone please IGNORE the troll.
Wasnt refering to the word "Troll", but thanks.

koan · Post by **koan** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:48 pm

:yh_whistl

:yh_whistl

greydeadhead · Post by **greydeadhead** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:39 am

hoooooo wheeeeeee... have we got a good one here ladies and gentlemen... okay.. RSF... tell ya what.. if you drank 5 drinks over 5 hours you would remain legally sober. It takes your body approximately 1 hour to metabolize one alcoholic beverage..(read earlier post for definitions of one serving)... but.. if you drank 5 cocktails in one hour.. or even 2 you would be legally drunk.. and a mence to the rest of the people on the road. Simple facts man.. get used to them. And even though you don't think that you are not impaired and that your reaction time is still normal.. you are wrong.. okay... it is a very simple equation. So.. I guess until you understand this.. get a DUI.. or have an alcohol related accident.. you can keep deluding yourself to the fact that you are driving under the influence... Please notice the civility and facts that are the basis for this post.. that is something that members here pride themselves on is that no matter how controversial the topic.. or heated the debate.. flaming is not exactly accepted..

David813...okay man.. runaway. You voiced your opinion and that is fine.. honestly.. it was not your opinion that I found lacking in the discussion.. I am open to anyone's views on a topic.. what I did find lacking was the basis for defending yourself.. waving the Constitution and the Bill of Rights around and using that as a defense lacks substance. Yes.. you are granted your inalienable rights under both.. but you have to remember.. so are we.. anyway.. if ya wanna run..go ahead.. if ya wanna discuss in an intellingent and civil manner.. come back and be welcomed.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:18 am

I really wasn't sure if I wanted to bump this thread and stir things up again, but I have a sneaking suspicion that RSF will be back and do it anyway. Besides, there's a few things that have been said since I've been away that need addressing:

RSF: You seem to be hiding behind the pointless defense that we can't take criticism or people disagreeing with us. That is simply not the case. If you had been looking through any one of a hundred other threads here, you would see that we debate and disagree on lots of topics. Sometimes heatedly. Everyone's opinions are welcome as long as they are given in a polite way, and backed up with truth. People here contribute not flame. They discuss, they don't harass. They involve themselves in discussions that interest them to learn, and debate. POLITELY. When a new member comes in and insults and acts like a child, they get called on it. You posted in another thread ("What does Jesus look like") and flamed 4 people in a row. Me being one of them. (I'm still not sure why you thought telling me I must have been home-schooled would be insulting, though I'm sure that's how you intended it. Had you been even slightly credible, I would have given it more thought.) So, here's what you will find on FG from now on: Keep being the antagonist, and you will either hang yourself and be banned eventually, or the members here will just cease to give you any of your much-craved attention. It's very simple.

We take to debate very well. When presented in an intelligent manner. As for the PM's that you received (yep, one from me) that was a clue for you. Instead of calling you to the mat in public, you were told, privately, to use some manners. I think that speaks volumes for the type of people here. To quietly say "Hey, take it easy, this is a nice place." If you can't do that, well, I've already explained what the result will be.

David813: Minks is right, you can't be guilty be association. The teen boards are good for that, but not here. As I said before, all opinions are weclomed. Just be nice. We are friends here. With each other and with anyone else who wants to be. Some have stated outright that they don't wish to be friends. To them I say: Have a wonderful time, alone, somewhere else. :yh_peace

Jives · Post by **Jives** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:30 am

(jives points to Babyrider) I'm with her.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:37 am

See?? Even Jives and I have disagreed, even heatedly, on some topics. He's still here, and so am I, being nice. Of course I PM my REAL friends and complain about him all the time...:yh_rotfl (That's a joke, babe :yh_bigsmi )

minks · Post by **minks** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:51 am

BabyRider wrote: I really wasn't sure if I wanted to bump this thread and stir things up again, but I have a sneaking suspicion that RSF will be back and do it anyway. Besides, there's a few things that have been said since I've been away that need addressing:

RSF: You seem to be hiding behind the pointless defense that we can't take criticism or people disagreeing with us. That is simply not the case. If you had been looking through any one of a hundred other threads here, you would see that we debate and disagree on lots of topics. Sometimes heatedly. Everyone's opinions are welcome as long as they are given in a polite way, and backed up with truth. People here contribute not flame. They discuss, they don't harass. They involve themselves in discussions that interest them to learn, and debate. POLITELY. When a new member comes in and insults and acts like a child, they get called on it. You posted in another thread ("What does Jesus look like") and flamed 4 people in a row. Me being one of them. (I'm still not sure why you thought telling me I must have been home-schooled would be insulting, though I'm sure that's how you intended it. Had you been even slightly credible, I would have given it more thought.) So, here's what you will find on FG from now on: Keep being the antagonist, and you will either hang yourself and be banned eventually, or the members here will just cease to give you any of your much-craved attention. It's very simple.

We take to debate very well. When presented in an intelligent manner. As for the PM's that you received (yep, one from me) that was a clue for you. Instead of calling you to the mat in public, you were told, privately, to use some manners. I think that speaks volumes for the type of people here. To quietly say "Hey, take it easy, this is a nice place." If you can't do that, well, I've already explained what the result will be.

David813: Minks is right, you can't be guilty be association. The teen boards are good for that, but not here. As I said before, all opinions are weclomed. Just be nice. We are friends here. With each other and with anyone else who wants to be. Some have stated outright that they don't wish to be friends. To them I say: Have a wonderful time, alone, somewhere else. :yh_peace

Nicely put BR I hope people can understand we like to keep this as a decent forum and that we respect difference in opinions but we also ask for respect back.

Post by **kensloft** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:03 pm

greydeadhead wrote: drunk.. and a mence to the rest of the people on the road.
What's a mence? Being Canadian we is real dumbb? Chuckle chuckle.

capt_buzzard · Post by **capt_buzzard** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:44 pm

Anywhere Women are involved it has to be for a good cause. Except in matters Religious partaining pontifates.

koan · Post by **koan** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:11 pm

capt_buzzard wrote: partaining pontifates.

Some beautiful alliteration...not sure what it means but, beautiful!

Post by **kensloft** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 9:04 pm

koan wrote: Some beautiful alliteration...not sure what it means but, beautiful!
Still love you. You know?

koan · Post by **koan** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 9:27 pm

kensloft wrote: Still love you. You know?
postslut!

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:03 pm

Wow, just saw this thread. BR, you are a hoot! (Kevlar, indeed!)

Wanted to point out one little thing, you CAN be arrested for less than a

.08 depending on the circumstances. Down to I think it's .04 if you blow

a stop sign or something say.

I love our member of law enforcement, but I have disagreed with her in

the past on one subject. It IS possible to do.

BR, I think MADD goes overboard. In principle I agree with them for the

most part, I just don't care for their tactics.

Whenever I get frustrated with the money grubbers, I usually just tell

them my contribution is my BLOOD. Usually shuts 'em up.

Carry on.

:yh_think

cars · Post by **cars** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:34 am

BabyRider wrote: Don't you think that they would get a better response from people being just a LITTLE nice? I have had dealings with this group, and let me tell you, their name is very appropriate. All these folks are mad. Bitter, angry, and vengeful come to mind too. 10 years ago I had a DUI. Stupid, yes I know. I learned, (unlike many) and never drove drunk again. But the classes you are forced to take where you get screamed at by a mother who has lost a child to a drunk driver...WOW.

Yep, I learned. It cost me $6,000 all told, and I don't resent the money, or any of it. The only thing I resented was being made to feel like a useless, piece of crap, murdering criminal by those women.

I didn't quit drinking then, but I always took a cab or got a ride. Today is day 54 of sobriety for me. So far so good.

BR, "54" that's great keep it up you can do it!!!! We are all pulling for you here, when the urge gets bad, just jump in here and let us help pull you through! :-4

Cars :driving:

Post by **kensloft** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:36 am

koan wrote: postslut!

Soooo? I likes yuh! So wot?

cars · Post by **cars** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:58 am

RedSoxFan wrote: I go out all the time and drink. I drive home all the time too. I can have five drinks and not feel a thing, really. I think that the legal limit should be increased considerably. .08 is just not that much alcohol at all. Isnt that like less than a beer? Some people have weaker tolerances but other people have strong ones like mine and can drink a little more. Not everyone should be punished. I was detained one night when I was 18 and blew a .17 and didnt really feel it that much. Atleast thats what they said I blew.

You'll feel a thing when you come to an abrupt stop, hopefully not involving someone else! :-5

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:27 pm

cars wrote: BR, "54" that's great keep it up you can do it!!!! We are all pulling for you here, when the urge gets bad, just jump in here and let us help pull you through! :-4

Cars :driving:
Thanks for the support, Cars! I knew I could expect it here. It's odd, but I don't miss it really. It was to the point where I realized I am one of those people who just should never touch alcohol in any form ever. It just doesn't agree with me in lots of ways, and there are many more important things to me. I imagine there will be a time when I want to, but right now, it's just not that big a deal. I love beer, and there are lots of non-alcoholic brews out there to satisfy my craving for the taste, so that helps. But overall....I just don't miss it. It's been easy so far, and when it gets hard, (if it gets hard) I'll be right here, availing myself of the support of all the great folks here! Thanks again for your encouragement, Cars. It means a lot. :-4

Post by **kensloft** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 4:21 pm

BabyRider wrote: Thanks for the support, Cars! I knew I could expect it here. It's odd, but I don't miss it really. It was to the point where I realized I am one of those people who just should never touch alcohol in any form ever. It just doesn't agree with me in lots of ways, and there are many more important things to me. I imagine there will be a time when I want to, but right now, it's just not that big a deal. I love beer, and there are lots of non-alcoholic brews out there to satisfy my craving for the taste, so that helps. But overall....I just don't miss it. It's been easy so far, and when it gets hard, (if it gets hard) I'll be right here, availing myself of the support of all the great folks here! Thanks again for your encouragement, Cars. It means a lot. :-4
Keep it up and you already know that it is easy. You'll do it because it is what you want to do! Glad to hear you are enjoying it.

Post by **kensloft** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:15 pm

JAB wrote: Man oh man! After reading this thread, I feel like I need a drink. Fortunately I'm at home with no intention of going out so I'm safe.

Back in my younger days, I used to go out with friends and drink 5-6 Long Islands in one night and then get in a car and drive 30mins to my home. At 4-5 shots per Long Island...well do the math and see how truly stupid I was. I was lucky and I'm thankful for it.

The point nowadays is what do I have to prove to anyone? Nothing. It took a friendly intervention from 2 very good friends to make me realize that. My friends and family aren't impressed that I can hold my drink and still get behind the wheel. They're more impressed that I'm smart enough to know when I shouldn't be driving and turn over the keys or crash on their couch vs. the highway.

RSF can disagree, it is his right. His arrogance though in thinking he knows better than medical and legal experts who have experience in the effects of his and others 'drinking prowess' is almost laughable if it weren't so tragic. Drink all you want in the comfort of your home where the most harm you'll do is fall down the stairs and crack your noggin. But when you get on the road and impose your stupidity on me and the rest of the drivers, that's when you're committing a crime. Your civil liberties be damned.

You only need one accident. If you are so into drinking when you drive rsf then don't forget the reality that some days are easier to drink that others. it all depens on what your conditions are in your life.e.g. over-tired from work etc.

Drinking and driving is a destination for the insanity that will come from having something happen to you or others because you think that you are the only person in the world that can do it. It is a recipe for disaster. It is a self-fulfilling prophecy.