Does A Woman Jack Of All Trades Scare Men?

KARENSVINEYARD · Post by **KARENSVINEYARD** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:19 pm

i dont do the online relationship thing, and im not much for the datin' scene. im asked out all the time and in the strangest places. my pot roast and beef strog. is best i know of. i havent taken up any offers for dinner cause i'm scared to death a man wont know how to deal with a girl who can be the man and woman of the house. i maintain my own car, do the lawn work, you name it i can do it or figure it out. last husband couldnt stand my eye on a target shot was pretty d**n good. i'm girly, look ok on the beach if i do say so myself. confidence isnt a set back for this country chic. s'a tell me people, does a woman jack of all trades scare a man?

KARENSVINEYARD · Post by **KARENSVINEYARD** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:29 pm

:-1 dont tell me i scared ya'all off already?:-2 :-3

KARENSVINEYARD · Post by **KARENSVINEYARD** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:30 pm

aw shucks:( i dont do the online relationship thing it was just a question

KARENSVINEYARD · Post by **KARENSVINEYARD** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:09 pm

21 views, no feedback. :-1 ouch, may need'a band aide

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:16 am

Okay Men, where are your opinions on this one?? :wah:

I hear many men say how they like confident women, that confidence is sexy. I do know of some who want the woman to defer to them and depend on them however. Not many of those do I know.

I would think a man would appreciate a woman who can get a bullseye and still make a good meal.

Maybe you should start accepting some of those dates and see where they lead.

G-man · Post by **G-man** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:54 am

LOL! :wah: Well you didn't scare this man off... not at all!

I'm a jack-of-all... myself and I rather like the idea of the same in a woman. I always get the same thing, though, from a male standpoint... and women who lack a certain level of confidence don't tend to work out with me...

KARENSVINEYARD · Post by **KARENSVINEYARD** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:01 am

RedGlitter wrote: Okay Men, where are your opinions on this one?? :wah:

I hear many men say how they like confident women, that confidence is sexy. I do know of some who want the woman to defer to them and depend on them however. Not many of those do I know.

I would think a man would appreciate a woman who can get a bullseye and still make a good meal.

Maybe you should start accepting some of those dates and see where they lead.

:wah: oh man redglitter i tell ya what, it scares the crap out'a me. i've done too much to get this far and i have so much pride in it (taken care of myself because my ex wouldnt do anything) that even if someone dared try take what i've done away they'd have me in court for assault. ya know my ex is a civil engineer for the air force and the only thing i could get him to do besides excersize his grip on his beer was use the riding mower. i've taught myself things that 6 years ago i wouldn't dream i'd be able to do. the things ex jerk did do, i watched close and i learned. I fought the world gettin away from him cause he put on a show of "best friend to the world" and thanks to my tape recorder i got his other personality in front of his family he'd told i didn't do anything. they thought i was a liar when they come to the house and everything was done or built and he took the credit. i married into the redneck trash from hell who hated anyone a different color or who'd 10 more bucks then they did. god forbid i ever let that happen to me again. i'm not that young anymore, and not that stupid.

KARENSVINEYARD · Post by **KARENSVINEYARD** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:07 am

G-man wrote: LOL! :wah: Well you didn't scare this man off... not at all!

I'm a jack-of-all... myself and I rather like the idea of the same in a woman. I always get the same thing, though, from a male standpoint... and women who lack a certain level of confidence don't tend to work out with me...

confidence is a thin line. easy to cross one way or the other. i dont sit there bi**hen about someone else doin' something i dont like if i can do it myself. if i ask someone to do something for me though i wont say anything or pick at it, because it's not me doin' it. i've developed a life and lack of fear i never thought that i would. i will let noone take it from me. i also have to come to the understanding that maybe my not wanting any help is telling me i'm not ready yet to invite someone else in my life. if you engage in a life of committment with someone, you cant block them out and you cant always do things (everyday chores so to speak) alone and have to much pride to not ask for help. i'm not ready to ask for that help, and i want to invite someone in my life when i can be 50 50 with it. dont want to put someone in a position to not feel needed ya know.

KARENSVINEYARD · Post by **KARENSVINEYARD** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:18 am

who knows though, maybe i'll find someone who understands and doesn't mind the backin' off and doesn't care that i do things like that myself. I don't wanna be with someone who goes out without me, or doesnt say "oh that's my wife man dont **** her off". i got married at 17. WASN'T PREGNANT. but in high school there were guys that said "that's my girl man don't mess with her cause she can do some damage". had one guy get detention for announcing his crush on me over the PA, one that asked me to go out with him on a 10 foot bill board in the hall on the second floor in a school of 2000 kids. yet i married one that didn't give a ****. he didn't do that when we dated though. he was great, but moving away showed him the life he coulda had without me and all the sudden i was nothing.

KARENSVINEYARD · Post by **KARENSVINEYARD** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:25 am

MY NEW MAN CRITERIA

1. HAS OWN KID CAUSE I WONT GO THROUGH PARENT DRAMA ALONE. its too complicated for ya to understand if ya dont have one of your own

2. been in previous long term relationship but had more than one relationship in their life. has to be experienced enough to what ya want and what ya dont want.

3. defends and stands beside me like loosing me would be loosing the ground below your feet.

4. knows that i can tell a lie from 100 yards away

5. knows that i'm a lifebound college student and will never stop going to school because i'm addicted to it

6. knows that at some point i'll most likely make more money then they will because of my education and doesn't mind havin' a sugar mama.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:45 am

KARENSVINEYARD wrote: does a woman jack of all trades scare a man?

No.

KARENSVINEYARD · Post by **KARENSVINEYARD** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:49 am

Bill Sikes wrote: No.

where are you when threads get out'a hand?:wah: short sweet to the point. :rolleyes:

weeder · Post by **weeder** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:07 am

My experiences have been unfortunately, exactly the same as yours. I also lived with someone who instead of being proud of everything I could do.. resented every success I had. And I simply wanted hin to be proud of me. He eventually found and married someone who does nothing. That type female enables him to feel better about himself. So, my answer is yes to your question. I wish it wasnt so. I would like to have a 50/50 relationship also. But then, so would all of the self sufficient women friends I know.

KARENSVINEYARD · Post by **KARENSVINEYARD** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:11 am

weeder wrote: My experiences have been unfortunately, exactly the same as yours. I also lived with someone who instead of being proud of everything I could do.. resented every success I had. And I simply wanted hin to be proud of me. He eventually found and married someone who does nothing. That type female enables him to feel better about himself. So, my answer is yes to your question. I wish it wasnt so. I would like to have a 50/50 relationship also. But then, so would all of the self sufficient women friends I know.

thats probably the best response could be given. i appreciate your sharin' it. Thanks.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:42 am

weeder wrote: I would like to have a 50/50 relationship also. But then, so would all of the self sufficient women friends I know.

I'm sure that many men would like that, too. I know I would, but this ideal

seems unachievable in practice.

KARENSVINEYARD · Post by **KARENSVINEYARD** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:46 am

Bill Sikes wrote: I'm sure that many men would like that, too. I know I would, but this ideal

seems unachievable in practice.

depends on how technical ya get with it and its more of just sense of compatabitly. 50 50 doesnt mean i mow this week and you mow next week all the time. 50 50 can be achieved simply by the compromise of understanding in the relationship. yes that darlin' is achievable but people dont get it and thats why divorce court is on everyday of the week. people think its i'll make you breakfast then you make me breakfast. it's compatibility

weeder · Post by **weeder** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:16 am

Its really very simple... #1 Two givers have to align themselves with each other. Not a giver and a taker.

#2 Finding someone who understands the concept of.... "I need you. because I love you" Not, I love you because I need you.

Raven · Post by **Raven** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:19 am

Bill Sikes wrote: I'm sure that many men would like that, too. I know I would, but this ideal

seems unachievable in practice.
I wouldnt say so. I believe I have acheived it. But we are both givers. And the personalities are matched. I'm a talker and he is shy, for example. Our strengths and weaknesses match. I believe anyone here who has met us would agree. We're a match set! :-4

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:25 am

Mine too Raven. She is the worker bee i'm the Queen bee. Works perfect.

guppy · Post by **guppy** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:26 pm

karen; just because you can do it all, doesn't mean you have to ,....ya know.

i can change a tire easily, but if a man stops i am all smiles and stand there all greatful and play my part of the helpless female .....................:p

being able to do alot of diff. things gives you confidence. knowing when to let it go and let someone else do for you is a sign of maturity.....imho.

KARENSVINEYARD · Post by **KARENSVINEYARD** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:45 pm

Raven wrote: I wouldnt say so. I believe I have acheived it. But we are both givers. And the personalities are matched. I'm a talker and he is shy, for example. Our strengths and weaknesses match. I believe anyone here who has met us would agree. We're a match set! :-4

could be that in your view your both givers to each other. thats a great thing darlin'. sometimes we'all just see it a different way. scratch that. sorry, stupid me i wasnt understandin' what you meant. thats rude of me, sorry.

KARENSVINEYARD · Post by **KARENSVINEYARD** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:47 pm

Hamster wrote: All I can say Karen is that since I became a single mum and had to get good at bringing up 3 kids, running a house and a business and all the other stuff I seem to be attracting a lot of different people. Usually men who like the confident woman...

I do look after my own car, house and garden etc too and I enjoy knowing if my tyre gets a flat I can change it on my own...

Besides..Its those times when you are NOT looking that Mr Right comes along isn't it?

yeppers i do think so

KARENSVINEYARD · Post by **KARENSVINEYARD** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:52 pm

guppy wrote: karen; just because you can do it all, doesn't mean you have to ,....ya know.

i can change a tire easily, but if a man stops i am all smiles and stand there all greatful and play my part of the helpless female .....................:p

being able to do alot of diff. things gives you confidence. knowing when to let it go and let someone else do for you is a sign of maturity.....imho.

that i suppose was the point darlin'. to be with someone i think (me personally) is to be able to allow the other to be a part of the weight carrier. i'm not at the point i need or want the help and find it unfair to put someone in the position they dont feel needed, cause i dont wanna feel that way either. on the other hand like i said though, it all depends. never say never. closed mind means closed doors.

theres a certain people i can say no matter the answer, its all said well and you tend'ta say things quite well and your real nice about it. good quality to have

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:27 am

thank you for the voice of reason guppy and for sayin it like it is my girlfriend of 10

years can do most of the things round the house if she needs to but she does not

see it as i sign of weakness on her part if i help out, i do most of the cooking a) because i like cooking

B) I'm a better cook (no I'm not woman bashing she tells all her Friends

this) and C to give her a break from cooking for her 2 ever hungry kids

guys remember this a stressed out over worked woman is an unhappy woman

unhappy women nag keep them happy you will be happy and best of all no

nagging:sneaky:

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:09 am

jimbo wrote:

guys remember this a stressed out over worked woman is an unhappy woman

unhappy women nag keep them happy you will be happy and best of all no

nagging:sneaky:

:wah: That's true. And nagging isn't the only thing...remember...you catch more bees with honey than vinegar.

cherandbuster · Post by **cherandbuster** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:22 am

Raven wrote: I wouldnt say so. I believe I have acheived it. But we are both givers. And the personalities are matched. I'm a talker and he is shy, for example. Our strengths and weaknesses match. I believe anyone here who has met us would agree. We're a match set! :-4

Raven

I would say the exact same thing about my relationship

And it's so wonderful, isn't it? :-4

Karen

I believe good things can happen at any time. I try to see the glass as half full whenever I can. There are men out there who would appreciate all you have to offer. Are you receptive and optimistic? I find that attitude colors everything. :-6

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:49 am

i thought bees made honey there fore if you use honey as bait you would only catch wasps, if you want catch a bee for some reason ,you would have to use flowers , bees use nectar to make honey and they get nectar from flowers :wah:

sorry i have no idea while i'm posting this i'm just in that kinda mood

KARENSVINEYARD · Post by **KARENSVINEYARD** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:35 pm

at this point of my life i do have to do everything myself. its not that i always love it but ya gotta do what ya gotta do to go where you wanna go in life sometimes, and this is one'a those times. future is bright, and times always change. i'm lookin' forward to seeing my efforts pay off one'a these days. it will. just waitin' for it.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:53 pm

guppy wrote: karen; just because you can do it all, doesn't mean you have to ,....ya know.

i can change a tire easily, but if a man stops i am all smiles and stand there all greatful and play my part of the helpless female .....................:p

being able to do alot of diff. things gives you confidence. knowing when to let it go and let someone else do for you is a sign of maturity.....imho.

and this is what really puts me off.

When I first met my wife she was alone, after a separation, and running a family expertly.

After we got together it was "that's a man's job - I couldn't possible manage to do that".

If we go out then I have to arrange and organize everything.

My wife and daughter went to Machu Pichu last year - I had to arrange the flights but, once there, my wife sorted everything out for the month they were travelling.

As soon as they're back she doesn't know how to book a train ticket to come down to London for the weekend.

This pretending to be the helpless female is *not* endearing - life is a partnership, play your part!

KARENSVINEYARD · Post by **KARENSVINEYARD** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:25 pm

Bryn Mawr wrote: and this is what really puts me off.

When I first met my wife she was alone, after a separation, and running a family expertly.

After we got together it was "that's a man's job - I couldn't possible manage to do that".

If we go out then I have to arrange and organize everything.

My wife and daughter went to Machu Pichu last year - I had to arrange the flights but, once there, my wife sorted everything out for the month they were travelling.

As soon as they're back she doesn't know how to book a train ticket to come down to London for the weekend.

This pretending to be the helpless female is *not* endearing - life is a partnership, play your part!

ya know what, ya hit the nail on the head right there with that one, in regard to your particular subject anyway. i gotta be honest, after i'm through with law school, more likely i always be in university learning one thing or another, i, to be blunt, need somebody who can handle having a sugar mama. lol. there's lots'a women out there that do that. its nice to have the man do things sincerely that obviously with a larger physical stature could do more easily, but also needs to be able to not take over. but its such an open ended subject because its all on case by case basis and what you want. anything you want in somebody isnt bad it's just findin' that person who wants it with ya. i dont think that guppy meant that when a man comes along thats the end of her job period, but your statement by itself is absolutely understandable and i think most women would probably agree with ya.