I have to get this off my chest

capt_buzzard · Post by **capt_buzzard** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:15 pm

Godiva Girl wrote: I have not been a member of the forum garden very long, but what I like about it the most and the reason I come back is that everyone respects each others opinion and supports each other. Today's thread about Lady Cop and well, I'm not going to use his name, we all know who I'm talking about, has left me feeling very unhappy. We are all friends here to support each other. We may not agree with each other all the time, but we always respect each other. What happened today got way out of hand. I'm not innocent, I took part in it too. None of us are perfect and sometimes we write something we regret later. I don't think that I've ever offended anyone and if I have I am truly sorry. I consider all of you my friends and I hope you consider me your friend too. Lady Cop, if you read this I just want you to know that I hope you don't leave. There is no reason too. I don't know what else to say accept that I hope what happened today never happens again, this is to good of a forum for that. :-6EXCELLENT. :-6

capt_buzzard · Post by **capt_buzzard** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:18 pm

News -Discussion - Debate -Community, I would add to that lineup, Friendship.:-6

Raven · Post by **Raven** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:20 pm

capt_buzzard wrote: News -Discussion - Debate -Community, I would add to that lineup, Friendship.:-6

Excellent point. Otherwise there is none.

Saintsman · Post by **Saintsman** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:24 pm

capt_buzzard wrote: News -Discussion - Debate -Community, I would add to that lineup, Friendship.:-6

Would you be so kind as to explain to me, seeing I am new and all, what the four stars represent of the forum thread that has been the focus of so much attention? Is it a good thing (those stars = 4.0) a bad thing, or just pretty stars?

Thanks!

I agree with the whole idea of friendship and am surprised so many were ready to draw blood when a simple question is asked in a proper format.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:25 pm

So are you supporting Ladycop, or admonishing us for our response to the "unnamed" member? Or both? Because if it's the former, I'll stand right by you and continue my support. If it's the latter, I'll tell you that AS friends to each other, that's what we did, and I'd do it exactly the same way if it happened again. I've seen newbies get WAY worse tongue lashings than what this member received when they pop in and just cause crap. I wasn't around for the initial dispute, but when I came on here and saw LC asking if she should leave, I was insensed. As I read the thread, I was livid. So, your hopes for this never happening again mirror my own. However, if someone were to dump on someone I consider a friend here, they better be ready to get the tongue lashing that is going to follow.

One of the things that makes this such a good forum is the respect that is shown. But you have to give it to get it. Sounding like a pompous, arrogant, self-important boob is not showing respect.

capt_buzzard · Post by **capt_buzzard** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:27 pm

Godiva Girl wrote: You, Capt. Buzzard, are a great man :)I'm goin run for President next:D

capt_buzzard · Post by **capt_buzzard** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:29 pm

Saintsman wrote: Would you be so kind as to explain to me, seeing I am new and all, what the four stars represent of the forum thread that has been the focus of so much attention? Is it a good thing (those stars = 4.0) a bad thing, or just pretty stars?

Thanks!

I agree with the whole idea of friendship and am surprised so many were ready to draw blood when a simple question is asked in a proper format.Sunshine. Goodness, have you any sunshine or goodness in your life?

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:30 pm

capt_buzzard wrote: I'm goin run for President next:D
Ya got my vote!! :yh_peace

anastrophe · Post by **anastrophe** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:31 pm

Godiva Girl wrote: I have not been a member of the forum garden very long, but what I like about it the most and the reason I come back is that everyone respects each others opinion and supports each other. Today's thread about Lady Cop and well, I'm not going to use his name, we all know who I'm talking about, has left me feeling very unhappy. We are all friends here to support each other. We may not agree with each other all the time, but we always respect each other. What happened today got way out of hand. I'm not innocent, I took part in it too. None of us are perfect and sometimes we write something we regret later. I don't think that I've ever offended anyone and if I have I am truly sorry. I consider all of you my friends and I hope you consider me your friend too. Lady Cop, if you read this I just want you to know that I hope you don't leave. There is no reason too. I don't know what else to say accept that I hope what happened today never happens again, this is to good of a forum for that. :-6
thanks for your offer of apologies in case you've ever offended anyone. that is the sign of an evolved personality. recognizing that one's behavior might be offensive, and proactively apologizing, shows respect for others, over and above whatever may be or have been discussed. a forum _participant_ is interested in exchanging ideas. a forum _troll_ is interested in getting attention. You can tell a troll because they'll use anything and everything possible to 'bait' other people - and they will not drop it. just watch. you'll see a response to this post, blathering away about how erudite and intelligent a person he is, for having stirred up the pot here. mock shock at what i'm writing now. he will not be able to keep from doing so - the lack of self-control is part and parcel to the disease. the reality is, it's all a ploy for attention. at this moment, i'm giving him some. the true test will be whether the arse posts a followup. if he does, he's confirmed his identity as merely a troll.

QED.

Jives · Post by **Jives** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:35 pm

Godiva and I are both brand new here, but I have to say that the thing that impressed me right off the bat, (and caused me to neglect my own forum, BTW) was the courtesy shown here.

It's tough to talk about sensitive subjects like politics, religion, and child-rearing without getting emotional.

But even at the most intense level, the members here seem to try very hard not to resort to flaming, or take posts personally. I must say that I was taken aback at the support you all gave LC. You just don't see that much other boards, my own included I'm sad to say. I'm proud to be with you, and respect you all very much.

You know this very thing came to my mind today. (I ,too, was rather distressed that someone had actually flamed LC, since my opinion of her had skyrocketed in the short time I had been here) A little girl that is currently mad at me in my classroom (because I told her parents she was ditching school) insulted me to my face.

I was dressed as Pythagorus (toga and leaves) and she said loudly, "You look like an idiot, Mr. Ives." My first reaction was to be a little hurt. I went to a lot of trouble to make a fun lesson, and verbal abuse was not what I expected.

But then I remembered the source. I replied, "Yes, don't I though? One nice thing about being old, you get to look idiotic and you don't care." "Besides," I told her, "I'd get fired on other jobs if I dressed this way. Look how much fun I get to have here!" and I smiled broadly.

The poor dumbfounded girl sat down, a quizzical expression on her face as she tried to understand why her insult hadn't worked.

I think she learned powerful lessons on both being an adult and being deliberately hurtful.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:35 pm

Godiva Girl wrote: I cannot believe that YOU are back!!! Don't you see that YOU were the problem today? The purpose of this thread is for all of us who are mature friends to discuss what happened today. Why are you trying to start more trouble?
Um, GG? Read post #11. Your answer lies within...

Raven · Post by **Raven** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:43 pm

anastrophe wrote: thanks for your offer of apologies in case you've ever offended anyone. that is the sign of an evolved personality. recognizing that one's behavior might be offensive, and proactively apologizing, shows respect for others, over and above whatever may be or have been discussed. a forum _participant_ is interested in exchanging ideas. a forum _troll_ is interested in getting attention. You can tell a troll because they'll use anything and everything possible to 'bait' other people - and they will not drop it. just watch. you'll see a response to this post, blathering away about how erudite and intelligent a person he is, for having stirred up the pot here. mock shock at what i'm writing now. he will not be able to keep from doing so - the lack of self-control is part and parcel to the disease. the reality is, it's all a ploy for attention. at this moment, i'm giving him some. the true test will be whether the arse posts a followup. if he does, he's confirmed his identity as merely a troll.

QED.

right as rain, you are. just read the 'other' thread.........troll is as troll does.

Peg · Post by **Peg** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:48 pm

Saintsman wrote: Would you be so kind as to explain to me, seeing I am new and all, what the four stars represent of the forum thread that has been the focus of so much attention? Is it a good thing (those stars = 4.0) a bad thing, or just pretty stars?

Thanks!

I agree with the whole idea of friendship and am surprised so many were ready to draw blood when a simple question is asked in a proper format.

You may find a small menu on thread pages which allows you to 'rate this thread' with a number between 1-5.

Casting a vote for threads you view is entirely optional, but if you think that the thread is superb, you might rate it as a 5-star thread, or if you think that it's unspeakably dismal, you might choose to rate the thread with a single star.

Once enough votes have been cast for the thread rating, you may see a set of stars appear with the title of the thread in the thread listings. These stars reflect the average vote cast, and can allow you to quickly see which threads are worth reading if you are on a very busy forum with a lot of threads.

anastrophe · Post by **anastrophe** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:55 pm

Raven wrote: right as rain, you are. just read the 'other' thread.........troll is as troll does.
the true, hidden beauty of the formula i described at the end of my post is this: even if he *doesn't* post a followup, he'll still be proving he's a troll. how so?

he's posted relentlessly the past day and a half. something like a hundred posts. go anywhere, you'll find him trying to stir up the shite. he's already posted once in this thread. we know his modus operandi. so if he *doesn't* post a followup here, it means he knows he's the troll being discussed, and thus not-posting means he's trying not to let me 'win' (such a childish mentality - 'winning' at discussion).

so it's QED with a double-reverse-hect-mambo-QED all in one.

the only way a post in this thread by him would not confirm his trollness would be a genuine, sincere apology to all here at Forumgarden who have been here more than 36 hours, and who don't go around stirring the shite just for the sake of getting attention. and a promise to actually _participate_ rather than engaging in random acts of self-aggrandizement and thoughtless acts of sophomoric humor.

Raven · Post by **Raven** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:00 pm

anastrophe wrote: the true, hidden beauty of the formula i described at the end of my post is this: even if he *doesn't* post a followup, he'll still be proving he's a troll. how so?

he's posted relentlessly the past day and a half. something like a hundred posts. go anywhere, you'll find him trying to stir up the shite. he's already posted once in this thread. we know his modus operandi. so if he *doesn't* post a followup here, it means he knows he's the troll being discussed, and thus not-posting means he's trying not to let me 'win' (such a childish mentality - 'winning' at discussion).

so it's QED with a double-reverse-hect-mambo-QED all in one.

the only way a post in this thread by him would not confirm his trollness would be a genuine, sincere apology to all here at Forumgarden who have been here more than 36 hours, and who don't go around stirring the shite just for the sake of getting attention. and a promise to actually _participate_ rather than engaging in random acts of self-aggrandizement and thoughtless acts of sophomoric humor.
Not to mention all the grandiose posturing with big words. LOL!! Like my dad likes to say, (ALOT I might add) "If you cant dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with BS!"

Saintsman · Post by **Saintsman** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:00 pm

capt_buzzard wrote: Sunshine. Goodness, have you any sunshine or goodness in your life?

To all intelligent forms of comprehension, please analyze the statement above!

There you have it.

The most senior posting (and a paying) member who has refused to take a side through out has now resorted to ...

insults as his format and process of deliberation.

You are absolutely correct. I do not belong here. The wild guy from Canada who said I was too good for this site and far too intelligent ... is correct. However, I pay respect to the those who have posted intellingent threads of logic and sensibility such as Bill Sikes, Jives, Godiva Girl, Eric N. and several others. The gentleman from California, and not Anenthopre (sp) who said I sound like a law student, well you are darn close to being correct, just slightly off.

Capt. Buzzard, your post is a disappointment. You do not represent the Ireland I know.

This is your response and you are the senior member. I am disappointed. I thought you, Capt. Buzzard, were above that.

Okay, now, before being banned, I am ready for all your juvenile retorts based on insults and uneducated emotions. Ready ..... GO

At least I retained my integrity and dignity through out.

anastrophe · Post by **anastrophe** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:04 pm

Saintsman wrote:

At least I retained my integrity and dignity through out.
:yh_sick

QED. don't let the door whack you on the ass on your way out.

persephone · Post by **persephone** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:08 pm

I hate it when I have no idea what everyone is talking about... This is what happens when you go off line all day *sigh*

Saintsman · Post by **Saintsman** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:09 pm

Peg wrote: You may find a small menu on thread pages which allows you to 'rate this thread' with a number between 1-5.

Casting a vote for threads you view is entirely optional, but if you think that the thread is superb, you might rate it as a 5-star thread, or if you think that it's unspeakably dismal, you might choose to rate the thread with a single star.

Once enough votes have been cast for the thread rating, you may see a set of stars appear with the title of the thread in the thread listings. These stars reflect the average vote cast, and can allow you to quickly see which threads are worth reading if you are on a very busy forum with a lot of threads.

Thank you for your direct and clear answer. I appreciate it.

Saintsman · Post by **Saintsman** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:12 pm

anastrophe wrote: :yh_sick

QED. don't let the door whack you on the ass on your way out.

There you go jumping to conclusions in an incorrect manner again. That's okay, I won't call you a troll or anything else. I need not to! Its not who I am as a person.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:13 pm

Saintsman wrote:

You are absolutely correct. I do not belong here. The wild guy from Canada who said I was too good for this site and far too intelligent ... is correct. However, I pay respect to the those who have posted intellingent threads of logic and sensibility such as Bill Sikes, Jives, Godiva Girl, Eric N. and several others. The gentleman from California, and not Anenthopre (sp) who said I sound like a law student, well you are darn close to being correct, just slightly off.

Capt. Buzzard, your post is a disappointment. You do not represent the Ireland I know.

This is your response and you are the senior member. I am disappointed. I thought you, Capt. Buzzard, were above that.

Okay, now, before being banned, I am ready for all your juvenile retorts based on insults and uneducated emotions. Ready ..... GO

At least I retained my integrity and dignity through out.
Geez but you're a pompous, self-important boob, ain't ya? The garden being a source of constant disappointment to you is truly distressing for me. You have not opened your mind even the teeniest bit to what is good and fun and friendly about this place. You waltz in, throw your garbage around, posturing all the while, and expect to receive a warm welcome?? And when someone walks into your home, throws trash on the floor and insults your family, how do you react?? Open your eyes for just the briefest moment and pay attention to what you have said and done here. Why is this such a complicated thing for you to grasp?? For all your big words, you don't seem all that bright to me, given your responses here. :-5

anastrophe · Post by **anastrophe** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:17 pm

Saintsman wrote: There you go jumping to conclusions in an incorrect manner again. That's okay, I won't call you a troll or anything else. I need not to! Its not who I am as a person.
that's the inverse of the double-reverse-hect-mambo-QED i mentioned.

Raven · Post by **Raven** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 6:38 am

Godiva Girl wrote: Everyone,

Why is it that no matter how clean and beautiful you keep a garden, a mutt has to **** in it?

LOL! I think it smells more like a skunk sprayed!

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:26 am

I take it that MR. I love myself way more than I should (SAINTSMAN) has left the GARDEN.

PARTY..!!

Excellent posting guys...!!

capt_buzzard · Post by **capt_buzzard** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 6:56 pm

CARLA wrote: I take it that MR. I love myself way more than I should (SAINTSMAN) has left the GARDEN.

PARTY..!!

Excellent posting guys...!! ;)The Weed Killer got to him, poor guy......

along-for-the-ride · Post by **along-for-the-ride** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 5:24 pm

capt_buzzard wrote: I'm goin run for President next:D

and I think I'll run for cover....

just adding my two cents...and my greetings to all here.

chicagolosina · Post by **chicagolosina** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:04 pm

I don't know what happened either, and I don't care to know. I'd like to say this though...it's great that we can all agree, it's great that we can disagree, and it's great that we can agree to disagree.

Just because someone has a different opinion, dosen't mean that they are wrong, or you are wrong, it just means that we all think different, which makes a great community...hell we might even learn something from one another *gasp*

LC, please don't leave, your posts contribute something valuable to this community, I've only been here about a week, but I can see you have a ot of wisdom to offer this forum.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:14 pm

thanks, this thread is really 'ancient' history, and so is the troll.( i wouldn't leave my friends here, it was a rhetorical comment in response to an offensive flamer, extremely rare here).welcome to both of you ladies!